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I am chris cuomo and welcome to primetime. We have not one but two of the most powerful people in washington with us tonight. Sorry, im looking the wrong way. The head of the House Intelligence Committee is here. The white house is now calling on him to resign, accusing adam schiff of peddling lies about collusion. Whats he going to say to the criticism . Were going to put it to him. Is it time to move on . Plus, the house chairman of the House Oversight committee has Just Launched a massive new push for a decades worth of the president s finances. Why did he do that . Were going to ask him and youre also going to hear why Elijah Cummings thinks we could be headed for a constitutional crisis if we dont get the full Mueller Report. And the president has picked a new fight. He wants to get rid of the aca. Some from his own party think this is the wrong way to do it. For one reason, he has no plan to replace the aca. This is far bigger than politics, so what do you say . Lets get after it. All right. Now im in the right place. Is the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee ready to admit that he was wrong . Is he going to resign . Republicans want both of those things from our first guest. Lets get right to it. Democratic congressman, adam schiff from california, joins us now on primetime. Congressman, thank you for joining us. My pleasure. Lets deal with your critics. They say republicans in the white house, actually all of them together, are saying you got it wrong and they put you number two on the list, second only to senator blumenthal as someone who shouldnt be on tv anymore, who shouldnt be the chair of a committee, because you were selling something not delivered by mueller. Your response . My response is they were clearly not listening. Because what ive been saying now for over a year is two things. One, theres ample evidence of collusion in plain sight, and that is true. And second, that is not the same thing as whether bob mueller will be able to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the crime of conspiracy. Theres a difference between there being evidence of collusion and proof beyond a reasonable doubt of a crime and i distinguished between the two probably dozens of times. Now, either they werent listening or more likely they would rather attack me than talk about how theyre trying to take Health Care Away from millions of people. But nonetheless, i consider it a good day when Kellyanne Conway is going after me. That makes one of us. Let me ask you this. So, help people understand the distinction. I know it. Im a lawyer, i talk about the difference between collusion as a behavior and conspiracy or a crime that can be made on a regular basis. But people will hear that and theyll say its a hedge. We both know that. Theyll say, oh, youre trying to have it both ways. Make your case. Well, lets look at the evidence. We know that the russians through an intermediary offered dirt on Hillary Clinton as part of what was described as the russian government effort to help donald trump. They offered that to don junior and his response was not to call the fbi and say, this is what i was approached with, it was not to say, no way, under no circumstances. It was to say, i would love it. If its what you say it is, that is dirt on Hillary Clinton, that is highly sensitive, as part of the russian governments effort to help our campaign, i would love it. And then he sets up this secret meeting in trump tower and he invites the campaign chairman, paul manafort, someone very experienced in running political campaigns, who decides that its a good idea to take that meeting and Jared Kushner takes that meeting. And then, of course, they conceal it and they lie about it. And in fact, the president himself may have been involved in a drafting of a false statement covering up that meeting. All of that is evidence of collusion. There is going to be no crime and there will be no more indictments, were told. The Mueller Probe is done. No crimes or cases of criminal activity to be made in connection with the president or Anyone Around him, helping with russian interference. And there is no obstruction. Do you believe that there is any basis for any type of pursuit of impeachment . Look, i share the view of the speaker that the evidence would have to be so compelling of wrongdoing that even the republican members of the senate, which there seems to be a bottomless capacity for duplicity when it comes to the white house, they would have to believe that this renders him unfit for office. Now, that would be a substantial undertaking and the Mueller Report would have to show something quite explosive. I dont think its going to meet that bar, but of course, we havent seen the report. All we have is a summary written by someone who was hired because of his hostility to the obstruction of justice investigation. So, well wait to see the report. But i think theres a very high bar here. Do you think that youre really going to be surprised by the report itself . You think the a. G. Would hide any material findings of bob mueller . It would be pretty foolish to do so. I think he certainly intends to hide the grand jury material and that could be very substantial. Theres one of two courses that barr could take right now. And hes clearly decided to take the one that is less transparent and more hiding of the evidence. And that is, he could do, as we did, as we saw in watergate, he could ask the court for permission to share that evidence with the congress. Thats what he should do. If he is true to what he said during his senate confirmation, that he would be as transparent as possible, as the rules in law would allow, then that is the course he would take. But that does not appear to be his course at all. You know, i hear your answers. Ive been reading them about bob mueller, well wait and see whether or not we need him. Why . What would be wrong with bringing him in . If you want transparency for the American People, why isnt it a given that you want bob mueller to come in and testify in public so people can know where the head was that was behind the probe . You know, i think that is inevitably going to take place, chris. He is going to have to come in and testify. At what point that takes place, whether thats before or after we get the report or the underlying evidence may depend on how much bill barr stalls in providing that report to the public. But at the end of the day, yes, i think both the congress and the American People are going to want to hear from bob mueller. I think a great many people have skepticism about the bias, the evident bias of bill barr, which was plain, even before he got the job, and indeed, thats why he did get the job. So, i think youre right. I think were headed there. But i will leave it to the leadership to decide when that time is right. Were you disappointed by the summary . Were you expecting more . You know, i was disappointed that we would get this basic memo to characterize the work of bob mueller, rather than just making the report public. He had promised to be as transparent as possible, giving us four pages of what may be a voluminous report, and not even from the report. There were very little quotations from the actual mueller work product. And i also think, but well have to wait and see whether this is the case with the report, that mueller wanted to leave this to congress. Not have someone airdropped in to decide in two days that which he could not decide in two years, and to color the public and the Congress View of the work product hed been producing. One other point i want to make. First, just as a point of fairness, i get the 48hour criticism on the turnaround, but we now know that mueller came to them weeks ago, rosenstein and barr the a. G. , and said, were deadlocked on obstruction. So they had weeks to process that. Isnt that fair . I dont know what the facts are. I know theres been some reporting about that. But that doesnt mean that bill barr has had the advantage of reading this report. It may be that bob mueller informed barr some time ago that, look, im not going to make a recommendation to congress. Im going to follow the precedent that did watergate. I dont want to put my hand on the scale and say this is an indictable offense, because that will too heavily prejudice the Congress View of this. So that may have been communicated. I dont know. But bill barr certainly decided to arrogate to himself that decision. And we wont know why until we have a chance to examine bill barr in testimony and i think youre right, ultimately, were going to want to hear from the man who did the investigation himself. What do you say to the American People who feel that this is now over, this is it. He came out, he put out his report, there are no crimes. If theres no crimes, lets move on. Well, first, i would say this. We dont have the report yet. And i think people should wait to make any conclusions unless we do have the report. But second, and this is a very important point that i dont think gets discussed much in the context of this report, this investigation began not as a criminal investigation, but as a counterintelligence investigation, designed to determine whether u. S. Persons were acting as witting or unwitting agents as a foreign power. Whether a foreign power, russia, was involved in a covert operation that was impacting u. S. Policy, politicians, candidates, or businesspeople. And that, you know, may not be at all discussed within the Mueller Report, which is essentially a report about prosecutorial decisions, we charged these people for these reasons. We didnt charge these people for these reasons. That information may be among the most important, because if it shows a bias towards russia, that is not in the national interest, but its owing to some other interests, the American People need to know about it. Last question. If it isnt a crime and theres very little chance that you get any buyin from republicans in terms of consensus on impeachment, how far do you go down these roads . How far until it winds up being a waste of time . Well, on our committee, which is, you know, our interest in this from beginning to end has been the counterintelligence aspects of the investigation. I think its our obligation of the country to make sure that no one, not the president , not his aides, not his National Security adviser or former National Security adviser, or anyone working in the administration is influenced by considerations other than the national interest. So that means if theyre pursuing business deals, if they still want to make money in moscow, if they feel that if the president were to ever criticize vladimir putin, moscow trump tower, a lifelong ambition of donald trump, is dead as a doornail, then that has to be revealed. And so, until were satisfied, i think, that we have pursued credible allegations of conflict of interest or compromise, we are not done. But we will be heavily guided by what bob mueller did. We are not going to try to reinvent the wheel. And if bob mueller exhaustively looked into the i. R. A. , this troll farm, and he exhaustively looked into the hacking and dumping operation, im circumspect about how much value we can add to that. But there may be many other aspects of the investigation that bob mueller or Rod Rosenstein decided that were beyond the scope of what his charge was, that still leave the country vulnerable. And so it continues. Congressman schiff, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank you. You know, you have to ask about how much and how long, because theres a political cost to this type of probing. Poll after poll says voters didnt turn out in the midterms because of the Mueller Probe, but because of health care in large part. Now, the president has turned his face toward that issue. And he says his move, get rid of the aca in the courts. Problem is, no plan to replace it and not great law in his favor here. Theres a lot of spin about the aca. What are the facts . Im going to give them to you next. And, this is going to be a big night. Why . Well, we have one of the candidates whos generating a lot of attention, cory booker. Will the senator address health care . You Better Believe it. 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Thats why despite the partys resistance to this move, the gop will fall in line and youre going to hear a lot of this. Now, if you get a subsidy in obamacare, you love it. But if you dont get a subsidy, chris, your premiums have gone through the roof. Your deductibles have gone up. Obamacare has been a failure for the American People. All right. Now, facts first, okay . Sean duffy, the congressman from wisconsin, is right. If you get insurance from your company, you have seen premiums go up. And, yes, there was a spike right after the aca took effect. But across the board, rates were going up faster before the law than they are now. Repeat, before the aca, the rate of increase was higher than after the aca. That is the fact. The congressman didnt want to deal with it. The gop pretends it isnt true. But it doesnt change that it is a fact. The aca lowered the rate of the increase of care. And they dont have a better plan. Now, heres the data that i want you to just look at. You see at the top where the two lines come together . Thats 2017. That marked the first time that Health Care Costs grew at the same rate as the value of the dollar, okay . So you see, there was a trending here. It was going in the right direction. Another fact, even if you dont use the exchange, the aca affects you. Folks with preexisting conditions. In other words, you have high blood pressure, asthma. Trumps own Administration Says thats about half of everyone under the age of 65 gets caught up in that. 52 million of those conditions are so bad, private insurers would deny them coverage without the law. 52 Million People, without the law, no coverage. We know thats what would happen because thats what would happen before the aca. Same for the 2 million young adults currently covered under their parents plan. Like the mother pumping breast milk. Or when you get a flu shot with no copay. Even if you check the calorie count at a chain restaurant, its all due to the aca. Now, of course its not an elixir. Of course its not perfect. This was a huge, massive new system that was done by just one side of congress. Its weak. It has obvious fixes. It has strengths, as well. This was known when they passed it. But heres the key. Fact, the gop has never agreed to work with democrats on any of it, okay . They promised to kill it when it was born. And theyve never moved off that. They believe the prescription is opposition. And many have rewarded the right for just fighting instead of fixing. And now this president is going allin. Those are the facts. Okay . Now, the fight for what should be done. We have no plan from the president to replace the aca. He insists his party will make Health Care Great again. And that is a great starting point for a great debate, next. With fidelity Wealth Management you get straightforward advice, tailored recommendations, taxefficient investing strategies, and a dedicated advisor to help you grow and protect your wealth. 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But how can that be when trumps plan is to kill the aca without anything to replace it. Thats the start of our great debate. We have ana navarro and scott jennings. Great to have you both. Scott, do you believe that azar, the head of hhs, and barr, the a. G. And other republicans, went to the president and said, dont do this this way. Dont try to just scrap the aca either legally in barrs case or politically in the case of mccarthy and others. Well, i think, im not qualified to opine on the legal arguments. The political arguments are, though, did the president step on the good news he was getting with the mueller front with the aca announcement . And he might have. I think the Silver Lining to the decision is, hes actually forcing the Republican Party to deal with this issue. I think its no secret that democrats did well on health care in the midterms, and its really not an option for the Republican Party to run in 2020 with nothing to say about the issue that most people care about. So if trump has achieved here the objective of getting the Republican Party in gear on a health care plan, thats a good outcome. But theyre out on a limb, because if they fail on this front, voters will certainly hold them accountable. My hope is that they can get something out there thats bipartisan in nature and deals with a couple of issues. One is Prescription Drug prices and two is the skyrocketing deductibles. You talked about premium increases in your segment, but i think the deductible increases, the most common obamacare deductible plan is like 4 grand. Thats like not having insurance at all for some people. One of the great things for you guys with this issue, its so complicated, you can tear it in Different Directions and work to its advantage. I still dont get the play by the president , ana. And heres why. I get that he does things simple. Look at the problem on the border, build a wall worst thing weve ever seen in his time as president , the thing with the kids. I dont see it on health care, because we know that the aca has become increasingly popular with people. So where is the percentage in getting rid of it, especially with nothing to replace it . Look, i think what youre seeing from President Trump is, you know, how simpleminded he can be. And he reduces everything to a campaign slogan. He campaigned in 2016, as did many republicans, on repealing and replacing obamacare. The problem is that hes trying to do it through doj. Hes trying to do it through the courts. Thats not going to give him clean hands. And i dont know if barr told him anything. I dont know if azar, the secretary of health, told him anything, but we have seen public displays of disapproval or disappointment, which is frankly a word i think should be erased from the english language. So some politicians may have to be forced to use words that actually show some damn emotion. But weve seen people like susan collins. Who is only republican senator left in the entire northeast express disappointment with the president s decision to go after aca. I can tell you, im from south florida. Theres two seats down in south florida where i live that used to be republican. Illeana roslehtinen and carlos corbello that today belong to democrats. Those two ladies were laser focused on health care. They werent talking about trump or stormy daniels. They were talking about health care. It was a winning issue in 2018, where i live. Well, also, you know, the president probably has high ground on the party right now. He can say, all you guys talk about is getting rid of the aca. You swore opposition to it, refused to work on it. Voted like 50 different times to try to take it down. Now im trying to take it down, youre saying, dont . I get the disconnect there. Is the real blame on the party . Yeah. I think there is some blame to be had, to a party that held, i think, youre being generous when you say 50 votes. I think it was closer to 70 votes that were held on repealing obamacare. And it was irresponsible not to have something to replace it with. So then you get to the replacement part. Scott, how do you see this playing out . Now, barr, and many other people say, i dont see the legal path. This legislation has been tested twice at the Supreme Court level. The mandate was found to be a tax. Congress has the ability to tax, so they zeroed out the tax and got rid of the penalty. That was the political fix. And you saw from congress this severability interest. Even when they couldnt do it, even if they didnt like the mandate, they wanted the rest of the law to stay, at least then. Thats the law. Lets put it to the side. How fast do you think you can come up with a fix for something as massive as the aca . Well, not very fast. But i think politically, you have to show responsiveness to the issue that all of these people care about. I dont think anybody thinks that you can come up with a plan overnight, but if it doesnt even look like youre working on it, theyll hold you accountable. If the president has kickstarted the Republican Party into appearing responsive to this, i think thats a good thing. Look, the aca has been largely an exercise in medicaid expansion. It not only has, i think, done damage to the private insurance market, but its also stretched state budgets around the country. I think one of the political issues for republicans here is, not just at the federal level, but at the state level. You have republican governors and republican state legislators who are grappling with this medicaid expansion. So, there are a raft of issues that need to be dealt with. Ultimately, the party has to show some responsiveness at every single level. Again, Prescription Drug prices, deductibles, and this burgeoning medicaid population is a good place to start. Look, thats the problem, you had to be doing things about it and you never have. Are the chickens coming home to roost . Well see. On the issue of responsiveness, i want to play a big chunk of sound on how the left and the right are dealing with Climate Change. This is a quality of life issue. You want to tell people that their concern and their desire for clean air and clean water is elitist . Tell that to the kids in the south bronx, which are suffering from the highest rates of childhood asthma in the country. Tell that to the families in flynt, whose kids, their blood is ascending in lead levels. Their brains are damaged for the rest of their lives. People are dying in a future without air travel, how are we supposed to get around the vast expanses of, say, alaska during the winter. Well, ill tell you how. Tauntauns, mr. President. This is a beloved species of reptomammals native to the ice planet of hoth. Ana, how long can your party or the Republican Party get away with making a joke of Climate Change . First of all, what a lame attempt at humor. If thats the best they can come up with as jokes, maybe they should stick to their day jobs. As anderson said last night, maybe it played well in the office. Right. Which is a good line. Its stupid. Its stupid to miss the boat when it comes to the environment. I speak at a lot of colleges and universities. You speak to young people, its the first issue that comes up today. And in florida, governor ron desantis, a conservative, who i did not support, has made the environment, cleaning up the waterways, one of his top priorities. Hes dedicated great resources. It is absolutely stupid for republicans to let democrats own the environment as their issues, just to spite them. They are cutting off their nose in order to spite their face, on something that is a huge issue, particularly for young people and for people like me, who live in a state thats surrounded by water. Maybe in wisconsin, its not as big a deal for sean duffy. But i can tell you, in miami, learn how to swim. Scott, whats the play . Well, i actually see the Climate Change issue for republicans the way i see the obamacare issue. And that is, the failure of the republicans to put up a competing plan allowed for an environment where obamacare was the only thing out there, so thats what happened. On Climate Change, i think we have probably reached the Public Opinion tipping point, where people want an answer. So right now we have the ocasiocortez democrat plan. And on the other extreme, you have the donothing idea. I think the American People are probably looking for something in the middle that seems reasonable, that acknowledges Climate Change, but doesnt, you know, wreck or upend huge swaths of the american economy. The republicans didnt get that right when we were debating health care. It would probably behoove the party to get it right as we are debating Climate Change and these environmental and Energy Issues into the future. And republicans are getting too cute, by half, when it comes to science, when it comes to the environment, when it comes to Climate Change. Mitch mcconnells attempt yesterday to try to embarrass democrats is backfiring. People can see through what hes doing. Hes trying to play games to put them a difficult position. This thing with these popup posters that mike lee is posting, hes not taking, you know, its like this lack of seriousness, when treating an issue that for many, Many Americans right now is a very serious issue and top of mind. Im not telling you that alexandria ocasiocortez has all the answers. I dont think she does. What she has done, though, is brought a sense of urgency to the issue and the other thing she did was, man, did she own sean duffy. I think he better think twice before going after a bronx girl too often. Because, you know, whether its cardi b, Jennifer Lopez or alexandria ocasiocortez, you are treading in bad waters, baby. Its one thing to get what a verbal spanking. Its one thing to get into a battle of words, its another to deny science. Its a tough combination when you put them together. Ana, thank you very much. Scott jennings, as always, appreciate it. Democrats have set a tuesday deadline for a full release of the Mueller Report. Now, is that fair . The head of the House Oversight Committee Warns of a possible constitutional crisis that may be coming. Thats Elijah Cummings, and he will explain why. 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To give us the report. We have to have the report. I dont think there have been too many conversations at all. As you know, last night, senator graham claims that he had a discussion with the attorney general and he said that it would be we would get the report in weeks and not months. Well, weeks is not good enough for us. We want it in days. As a matter of fact, we want it on the 2nd. Do you have reason to be suspicious of the summary . Yes, of course. When you keep in mind that the attorney general back in june of last year basically interviewed through writing and gave his opinion about obstruction, said he didnt believe in it, with regard to the president , he interviewed for the job basically through that memo. And now to see what he has done, and did it so quickly. Keep in mind, the mueller and his staff of numerous attorneys worked for 22 months and then barr comes along in a matter of 48 hours, declares exoneration on both accounts. So im very much concerned, but more important than that, first of all, let me be clear. I trust mueller. I said it before and ill say it again. Ive wanted him to release the report. Whether it exonerated the president or not. Because i think the people and the Congress Deserve to know whats in that report. And its going to be very interesting, chris, to see whats there. The pushback on the timing, congressman cummings, is grand jury testimony takes time to parse. You have to get a court order for it. It takes time. Theres a felony violation, if you release grand jury testimony youre not supposed to, so he needs time. Is that a fair point . I think that its fair, with regard to needing time. But i think they can expedite this and get this done. After all, this is the a major issue for the American People and for our congress. As a matter of fact, we could be headed towards a crisis, a constitutional crisis. So it makes sense for us to do everything in our power, that is, for barr to do everything in his power to expedite this matter. Of course, i do not want to jeopardize the release of grand jury testimony or things that might be classified or might be harmful to the security of americans. But at the same time, we need to see this report. The reporting is that three weeks ago, mueller went to the a. G. And the deputy a. G. And said, were nowhere on obstruction. Were deadlocked. We dont know what to do on it. So that they actually had weeks to consider it, not just a weekend. Well, again, i dont know what information he based that on. Still, you know, i dont mind talking about this, chris. But it would certainly be nice to have the report and have the underlying documents. Now, you said we could be heading for a constitutional crisis. How so . If it holds up that mr. Mueller didnt see criminal activity in terms of the president or Anyone Around him participating in russian interference, and he couldnt make a decision on obstruction, what kind of crisis are we facing . Well, weve got a situation, chris, where clearly, there are obviously, and i dont know it, we havent seen the report, but obviously, there must be a number of facts on both sides. And at some point, we may very well come to a point where mr. Barr, that is our attorney general, does not want to release hardly anything. That in and of itself could get us in a position where this would have to be challenged in some kind of way. Now, in terms of what else here needs to be done, the republicans are saying that this report ends it and they came out today and said any Development Like what youre doing in your hearing, going back years, looking for documents of the president , its not fair, its not justified based on what we just saw in the mueller summary. Do you agree . Of course not. Keep in mind that when by the way, the republicans complain about everything i do. Keep in mind, chris, when we brought mr. Cohen in, he brought some checks in and he talked about the president and the checks signed by the president. We also know that mr. Cohen is going to prison for crimes whereby the u. S. Attorney general says were directed by the president. So we have a duty to follow up on those things. You have at least 12 investigations going on right now on other things. Such as, with his inaugural committee, his campaign, and a number of other issues. And we are looking very carefully at the whole issue of security clearances. So theres a number of things we have to look at, but we can do more than one thing at one time and were doing them. Congressman cummings, i appreciate it. I know some of these matters are sensitive, but it seems like the big push is to get the information to the American People and then make decisions about what else is needed from there. 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