A wire around President Trump, remember that. They said it was a joke. According to cnn sources, it happened. And then kaman even bigger development. Sure to enrage the right, but very important to process, Andrew Mccabe then the acting director at the fbi took the extraordinary step of opening an obstruction of justice investigation even before bob mueller was brought into the picture. Now, tomorrow the mueller team is expected to reveal more of what it knows about Paul Manafort and michael cohen, lets gavel cuomos court, it is in session with laura coats and ken cuccinelli. Its good to have you both here. Lets start with the rosenstein information. And really Andrew Mccabe, laura, because again, our sources say that rosenstein was kidding not kidding, about the needing to sur veil, now, thats backed up by the understanding that Andrew Mccabe felt after everything that involved comey and his dismissal by the president , an obstruction of justice investigation was warranted. Your takeaway . I think no one should be really surprised that when they have this very unceremonious firing at the head of the fbi, you had a con tem pain yously written memos about a pledge for loyalty. And this discussion of why he asked the question of letting this flynn issue go, even after sally yates had come to the white house to explain there may be a compromised National Security adviser, it should come as no surprise, that it was a personal response. They thought that one of their own had really got the raw end of the deal, it was a methodical and emotional situation. You get all the evidence early, you cannot wait for this speculative incoming of the special council. I think it was equal parts personal and prudent on their behalf. Legitimate response to the facts they had at hand . Or you see this as being motivated by Something Else . Well, no, i think it was certainly an element of circling the wagons among fbi folks. But also, i mean, look at what we know in hindsight. Andrew mccabe was overly aggressive in matters related to the president. I have never thought that mueller was seriously pursuing obstruction because the person overseeing him, who were talking about here would be right smack in the middle of any such investigation. And would have had to have recused himself. I dont think rosenstein would have stuck around in this for 19 months. I think were at 19 months now. Had that been a serious pursuit of the special council, because hes literally right in the middle of their theorys of obstruction. So i dont think thats ever been seriously pursued, we talked about it a lot on this show. I dont think in the special councils office, particularly in light of article 2, that they have seriously pursued that. I think we may learn some more tomorrow, but were going to learn it in the negative, much as we have in the past with the other things like flynn earlier this week, that didnt mention anything about russian collusion during the election. Theres a lot of redacted stuff, well know more about that by this time tomorrow. Well be talking about it, but one thing at a time. The idea that it cant be any real obstruction, because rosenstein would be conflicted, he would have been out if it were real. I dont buy that heres why, i dont think mueller is acting with regard to who his boss will be. I think hes acting under the direction of the mandate itself, not whoever occupies the position to oversea the carrying out of his mandate, if he were to do so, he would be a marionette and someone who would be compromised, an objective pursuer of the fact. He also has to get permission to proceed. That is true. But the idea that you would act only in regard to a way you could get permission would really be antithetical to his position. These are not the qualities you want in a general counsel. Im going to finish my point first. When you have these three issues, why the special counsel is appointed in the first place, there is accountability and objectivity to pursue justice. It would be antithetical to what youre suggesting. These people do serve under the pleasure of the president. He has his drudthers about who would no longer like to serve. You cant just expect everyone to evaluate an look at you and take the benefit of the doubt. Theyre looking at this and saying, listen is there any reason to believe this was not an article 2 dismissal, in fact, one that is tied to some other criminal investigation, and his own words indicate that. I think mueller is acting independently, i do still however think, as i said before, that mccabe, you called him very aggressive. I would not expect a deputy fbi director to be a shrinking violet. They should be aggressive in trying to understand whether there is a criminal violation. One of the things that got mccabe in trouble, is trying to secret out to the media his attempts to go after hillary clinton. Its always seen that, they dismissed him for lying, his lack of candor or whatever they want to call it within the doj. The premise of it matters as well. He wanted it to be known, he wanted to go after hillary clinton, but to remind people of why it seems so obvious that the president was motivated not by simple druthers, but by animous. What he said in an interview to lester holt, whether or not he was going to get rid of comey. Let me refresh your memory. Regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. Knowing there was no good time to do it. And, in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story, its an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. Trump and russia. What was on his mind. Now, one of the contextual things in this, did comey see it the way the president did . Heres what comey said. He fired comey because comey would not, among other things, say he wasnt a target of the investigation. Im sorry, obviously, thats rudy giuliani, everybody mixes together, but not that much. Ken, the point is this, you had the president s lawyer say, look, comey wouldnt say that the president wasnt a target, that upset the president , the president says, i didnt care what Rod Rosenstein said, i was getting rid of this guy, which blows the pretense of bringing rosenstein into the picture in the first place. Isnt that enough to say, it this isnt dismissing the head of the fbi. Its why he did it, musnt that matter . You can say it matters if obstruction was appropriate, there were a lot of reasons to fire comey. Youre talking to somebody who is advocating it as early as the previous summer, as did Allen Dershowitz on this very station, and, you know, that was happening almost a year before trump fired him, there were plenty of reasons for him to be let go, youve just named two. Because they came out of the president s mouth and his lawyers mouth, thats why. Right, but you could you quoted him for one sentence, there are plenty of other reasons, and he himself offered many other complaints over the course of the time running up to the actual firing, he being the president. Right, except ive already told you, i never thought this was appropriate, nor actually goingforward, because mueller to lauras point, this is not an independent council, it is a special counsel. The independent counsel statute died on a bipartisan basis 20 years ago, he has to get everything approved. Everything important by his oversight officer, who is not the attorney general, its the Deputy Attorney general. And it would be totally inappropriate for rosenstein to be addressing matters related to obstruction, when he is so unremovable from any discussion of the subject. It would be completely inappropriate. All right. Final word, laura, then we have to go. To operate that. I hear you, ken. I agree we have all thought recognizen stein has some conflicts of interest when it drafting the reasons to fire comey, which could have been quite extensive given the fact that he gave that press conference. Having said that, i think that people are misguided as to why the obstruction of justice issue is not the end game of mueller. Why would it be the end game. If you had a prosecutor come to you and say, my end game is to punish somebody for trying to prevent me from seeing something and it ended there. An obstruction of justice charge although it has been the foundation of a prior president , et cetera. The idea you would give someone a speeding ticket for running away from the scene of the crime as opposed to investigating the crime would be absurd. Mueller can have as much impact in the investigation as the obstruction, but i do agree, it cant possibly be an end game, and if it is, what were the 19 months for. We will see. More and more all the time, tomorrow is a big day. We will not know so much about this, i dont think. There will be more meat on the bones of why muellers doing what hes doing. Ken, thank you, laura, as always, appreciate it. When we come back, theres another big story were digging into deeply. There is new evidence of this alleged scheme to rig the vote results in North Carolina. There may have to be an entirely new election for that member of congress. We just had a huge move from one of the candidates involved. Ill tell you all about it next. I landed. I saw my leg did not look right. I was just finishing a ride. I felt this awful pain in my chest. 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I recently discovered that a good source of protein. Thats why theyre my goto snack while i get back in shape. That ones broken. The mess in North Carolina just hit a new level of crazy. Cnn has found problems with absentee ballots in a second county. This isnt made up, its messed up. So much so that the democrat in the one remaining uncalled congressional race just with drew his concession, its too close, theres too many problems. Whats the main allegation. People claim they were paid by a republican operative to break the law. Thats the simple truth. The focus is two counties, robeson and bladon. Four people signed off on multiple absentee ballots. Lesley mccrea hes been accused of messing with ballots before, two years ago, yet he was hired at the republican race mark harris, the alleged scheme included a practice called ballot harvesting. Whats that . A stranger knocks on your door, promising to deliver your absentee ballot for you, doing you a favor. Its against the law, some of those ballots may have been changed or never turned in. The signatures are what tipped this off. There are seven people who are witnesses more than 10 times each, only a relative or near guardian can deliver a ballot for you. You have two women who told cnn they were paid to collect ballots that they handed over to dowless. Listen. Like i said, i dont know what happened after i dropped them off. You dont know for certainty whether they were sent to the Elections Office . No, i dont. We were asked to pick up absentee ballots, he told us he would put gas in our car and a little bit of money during the week to help out. The state board of elections voted against certifying this election. What are they going to do about this . They could order a new vote, as i said, that would be a big deal, they may have to. Congress could also refuse to seat harris. Either way, its quite possible that this new election will need to take place in North Carolina. The question becomes, where are the republicans in the state, what dony have to say about this mounting evidence . What are they going to do about this. Lets find out. We have dan bishop, hes the vice chair on the committee of elections, he joins us now. I appreciate having you for two reasons. One, this matters, and two i cant get any republicans to talk about this. You know, i couldnt get voter fraud out of the mouths of your fellow Party Members when it comes to blaming it on mysterious latinos in california. Thank you for taking this opportunity, what do you think should be done with the allegations that we just laid out. We had a press conference today, chris, fellow senators, and myself, to say that look, the allegations are very disheartening, they need to be investigated thoroughly, promptly, and without any partisan bias. As you point out, the gentleman weve heard about, mr. Dallas in bladon county, has been involved in ballot solicitation activities that have given rise to allegations in 2016 and 2014 and 2010, there were complaints. Those obviously have not been adequately resolved by the efforts to date of the state board of elections, and prosecutorial authorities. We have to get to the bottom of it, theres no doubt about it. I hear you, thats the right thing to hear. The problem is in context. We understand that there are also issues during the primaries and they were voiced and there was nothing done. It becomes a little bit of a crisis of confidence that anything will be done this time. How can you guarantee there will be a fair outcome . Well, i think thats exactly the point, chris, its not im not in position to guarantee it, were in the general assembly. What we have been saying over the last couple years have been a bit of a tug of war with the democratic governor making the point that the board of elections, the elections mechanism, enforcement mechanism should not be a partisan operation. It needs to be bipartisan. And unfortunately, we havent been very successful in gain his ear on that point. But this is the weve got actually a over 3 different administrations, this state board of elections has not resolved this problem, and so youre right, it extends into the primary this year, and into the general election. You have two issues, who fixes it, and ill ask you about that in a second. Just to keep the record clear, harris paid dowless. Its not about your states infrastructure, this is about a decision he made, with a man who is a known quantity. And now theres a chance that he gets rewarded for his efforts with a congressional seat. Do you think that should happen . Or do you think that under no circumstances, should this man be seated until this is certified . Well, i say follow the facts wherever they lead. My understanding is mr. Dowless was involved in the 2016 election. Hes not new to this. In which there was a similar issue in the Gubernatorial Race then. Interestingly enough, the same Elections Official that made the motion not to certify here, which might have been the right decision for the time being, also voted to dismiss a similar complaint in 2016, involving similar activities. So, you know, that its hard to know i dont know who knew what about mr. Dowless. My understanding is, various people recommend him or something. There are legitimate activities to do. Not the ones we heard about. By definition, its illegal. And whether or not people who he paid to do it allegedly, if they knew that, its different. It doesnt sound from their interviews they knew what they were getting into. They were trying to make some pocket money. That takes us to the ultimate question, who is the final word here, where does the buck stop. Who has the power to figure out what needs to happen here . Well, we think in the first instance its up to the governor, weve asked him to establish a Bipartisan Task force to examine, to augment the members of the board of elections in its entirety as far back as it goes. Perhaps to 2012, and not just in bladon and robinson counties, by the way, wherever it may lead. It may be important to inform the absentee ballot mechanism by mail as it is. We face obstacles any time we do something to increase ballot security from various sources, but i think that may be something we have to pursue. We have to know what the facts are, not just in one particular snapshot or from a biassed or partisan point of view, lets see what the full picture is. You cant let this man become your congressman until you figure out whether he cheated in the race, right . Well, and i havent argued, as i said a moment ago, its probably the right decision. I think its certainly not the right decision until we certify whats going on. What we do need to do, we need to have a full picture of it, and it needs to be done as promptly as possible. If it seems the race is effective, do you back the idea of a new election . Look, i think its one of the things that can be done. The what else could you do . The board needs to approach that decision in an even handed matter, pursuing it in the way that they the same sort of analysis theyve undertaken before. But youve got 285,000 votes that have been cast in that race by lawfully, and youve got to give that has a significant. Well, its you dont know exactly the number, what were talking about from what weve heard sao far the numbers pale in comparison to that large vote. Have you to make the right decision about that, and the state board needs to do it with the possession of all the facts, and they need to get to it as quickly as possible. Were going to stay on this story, and i look forward to having you as a resource on it, i appreciate it, i appreciate your candor and taking the opportunity. Youre in a very elite group on this occasion. Thank you, chris. Be well. The president has reportedly made another big decision, who should replace our u. N. Ambassador, our ambassador to the u. N. , nikki haley was the one there, right . She was the governor of south carolina, maybe could run for president one day . His idea . I have a hint for you, shes a former fox and friends anchor. Does this qualify as only the best . Youre in but when you have high Blood Pressure and need Cold Medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. Coricidin hbp is the 1 brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your Blood Pressure. Coricidin hbp. 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She was a good anchor. It doesnt make you a diplomat. Its interesting, we had mike pompeo and john bolton both think according to the latest reporting that this position should be downgraded from cabinet level. No surprise, if youre putting up a name like a fox news anchor to do the job. Whats your take . First of all, being at the u. N. Is you are the center of americas face to the world, theres 195 countries in the world. And the people who go there from those countryies, they are the people who have been in the midst of Foreign Policy for decades. My concern im sure shes a smart person, and a great pr person, a great spokesperson. She could be doing maybe Sarah Huckabee sanders job. Most people who go, adelaide stevenson, the Daniel Patrick moynihans, Madeleine Albright are people who had been steeped in scholarship or steeped in governmental service. Or had been steeped in Foreign Policy service. She has none of that, and so the concern is, of course, how she will be viewed not just by the people at the u. N. , because its such a deep serious position, but also will she be able without that deep chops to be able to stand up to someone like john bolton or donald trump, or at least speak her mind in a way that suggests strength like nikki haley was able to do. Nikki haley didnt have all that foreign diplomat experience either, she was a governor of a state. And so you understand a level of government and import and executive decisions and how to deal with that kind of gravity, you give her the nod, and lets be honest, she did an admirable job in the time. How do you feel about this selection . Nikki haley was criticized by democrats for not having any Foreign Policy experience, and then she did a great job once she was given the chance. Again, she was a governor. Its commendable the president could potentially nominate a second woman for this position. Theres lots of women you could give this nomination to by the way. Great, im glad hes doing that, i think we should give her a chance before we suddenly decide that someone whos been working at the state department, whos in the inner circle of mike pompeo, who has the trust of the president and the secretary of state, who are formidable leaders in government. And they have her trust, we already decided she cant do the job. Why is that . Shes never done anything like it on any level anywhere. Sure, shes being given a chance. And by the way, it wouldnt be the first time, if she was downgraded and it was through the secretary of state, thats happened before, that wouldnt be the first u. N. Ambassador the government had been set up that way. Thats up to the president and the secretary of state how they want to do that, i think it is really hypocritical for the left, and for democrats to talk about promoting women, to talk about giving women a chance. Its not just any woman. Its not like i want you to be the quarterback for the jets so so we can say we have a woman doing it. You need some experience. This is the problem with the evolution of againeder sensitivity. Were going to throw you a bone. Shes a woman, you should shut up and be happy. Can i just say its a really insulting thing to say, let me throw a woman up there, and therefore our woman problem will be cured or therefore the democrats are hypocritical if they criticize, this would be the least experienced u. N. Ambassador in the history of the United States. Thats nothing to say, lets just give her a shot. Lets just try it. Can she stand up to russia and china and theyre asking to alleviate the sanctions . I dont know, lets find out. There are 325 Million People in america whose future counts on someone why dont you let her have a day in the job. Why would you do it that way. I thought you meant. I thought you meant maybe we should go through some confirmation and see how she holds up to scrutiny. I believe thats a completely plastic protocol, frankly. Its meant to push people through, unless youre an aberration of cause. Just being in the media alone, she should get through that process. Since when is that your vetting standard. Lets give them a crack at the job . No, thats not what im saying, there is a vetting standard, its gone through the the president , by the way, has been considering lots of other candidates, talking to lots of other people about this, he didnt just wake up one day he cant find anybody better than a fox and friends anchor to do the job. Hes considered lots of candidates. Mike pompeo and john bolton have changed the Foreign Policy structure over the last 6 to 8 months. You think shes the best before you come on here and decide that this young woman cant do a job, why dont you actually see what her performance in the position is. Thats not the way it should work, you shouldnt risk the values, the interest and the policies of the United States on a farm team play. Thats not how it works, fine, give her the shot, put her in charge of something at the state department where shes not as exposed to the universe of global diplomacy, so that we all have to pay the price for on the job training. I also think that theres a difference in this president s approach to how he addresses things like the United Nations. The United Nations is not a body that this president and this administration believes in deeply. This is the United Nations that is completely antiisrael and continues to be thats the point mikes making. You make an interesting point. Governor, lets pick that up. Mikes making a point. Trump doesnt like the u. N. To begin with, so theyre going to downgrade this position. Im not saying theyre going to downgrade it. Im saying hes going to choose his kind of person. This is what i think of how important you are. Hes going to choose someone he trusts, is my point. But the inpot is, hes choosing somebody who doesnt have the experience of negotiating with heads of states or others in a diplomatic arena. Even if you want to minimize the u. N. , which sends a whole other signal about how much he wants the u. S. To be retreating from the globe. How he wants it to be u. S. Alone as opposed to us in partnership with allies to make us all stronger. Weve got an extremely complicated and dangerous world out there. And to be able to put this in the hands of either a weakened u. N. Where the u. S. Is minimized or somebody who doesnt isnt steeped in this history and in the knowledge of diplomacy is dangerous for the United States. Thats the point. Every woman whos in a Senior Leadership position at some point, didnt have the experience and wasnt put into place. Stop this, do not do not be all feminist with me. Do not do that. It is insulting to say that the person who is the least i know youre offended by it, i believe what im telling you. Would you just let me finish. No, let me finish. You cannot put someone in there who is the least experienced person in the history of the United States. For this position. Listen, it would be fine to give someone a chance who is not in such a pivotal critical position for the United Statess safety. But you i mean, this position is a serious heavy position. Its not like women hear that all the time when they want to get a promotion, dont they . This is too serious for you. Mike, are you kidding me . Are you playing at a point right now . Or you really mean this . I really believe republicans we need to create leaders, i want more Women Leaders in our party. And you think a starter job thats how you describe it. No, its not a starter job. The starter job is the u. N. Ambassador. Whey reject is that the president and secretary of state have faith in this person, they trust her. Shes an official state department and having a they have faith in her, had he faith in his pilot, his doctor. That she doesnt have the requisite experience is what women are told all the time. I can find you 25 women in a Google Search that work at the state department right now who are qualified shes not going to pull off her apron and run off to the u. N. , hey, im getting a shot. Youre painting it like its the 1950s. Were Holding Women back because we dont let someone whos completely unqualified at a starter job, to put her at the u. N. Youre making the arguments against her that sound sexist to me. Shes a perfectly qualified person to be a spokesperson with her history as an anchor. Im certain she is a smart person. This position is not a good match with her skills, if the Republican Party really wants to do better with women, how about adopting policies that women support, this is why you lost so big in the midterms, this is why youre going to have a problem in 2020. Arguments like the one you are making right now, which is pandering and not putting someone up who has the experience for thou doth protest too much. You look at the context of when that was said in the play, that shows the perils of putting a woman in a position when shes not ready for it. Its not about man or woman, its about qualifications. Mike, i respect you, i respect having you on the show. Thank you very much. Governor grahnholm thank you very much. Doth protest too much. The president says you cannot trust undocumented immigrants. You have heard him say this so many times. There seems to be a but. But you can apparently if you work for him as an undocumented immigrant. 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Two housekeepers came into the country illegally, are saying they were among many illegal workers at the resort in bedminster, new jersey. The Trump Organization is pushing back. We have tens of thousands of employees across our properties and have very strict hiring practices. If any employee submitted false documentation in an attempt to circumvent the law, they will be terminated immediately. What if the facility helped them get those documents and encouraged their employment, even while knowing they were undocumented . That is the suggestion of the lawyer for these women, his name is annabel romero, and heres his story. Mr. Romero, thank you for joining us. Thank you, chris, thank you for having me. Lets get right to the main point here, which is, is it true that you can prove that there is at least one trump property that employs undocumented immigrants, and its not just one, its many . Absolutely, chris. Both of my clients are willing to cooperate, with federal authorities and with state authorities. In fact, we have already been in contact with federal and state authorities, and theyre both willing to cooperate. Theyve been working there for years, and at least one case, what kind of jobs, what kind of contact have they had with the president . Both of them, in the sandra, she worked there from 2010 until 2013. Vicky started working there from 2013 until today. They were both housekeepers, they both worked cleaning President Trumps house. Miss ivanka trumps house. They were in charge of bed sheets, toilets, serving food, whatever they needed. They were both always available for the president and the first lady. And they had contact at least one of them with the president. And those exchanges according to the reporting were pleasant . Yes. That your client had a positive image of the president . Yes, both of them had a very positive image of the president. In fact, they were both at some point the president apparently gives them tips gave them tips once in a while. In the beginning everything was great. Since he became president , the staff at the club has in a way become empowered. And now there is plenty of abuse, they have at least vicky has been physically assaulted on numerous occasions. They have been both they were both threatened with deportation. They were coerced into doing work they didnt want to do. Did they ever go to the police about the abuse or these activities as you describe them . We have been in contact with federal and state authorities, they have both contacted us, and thats all i can say about that at this time. Lets test what youve said so far, you agree with me, they came here under false pretenses, they came in illegally. They got illegal documentation, in the reporting in the New York Times it says there is no proof that the Trump Organization knew. So then what did they do wrong, your employees falsified your documents. And posed as legal and able to work here. What is the fault involved in the Trump Organization. I believe the article says that President Trump didnt know or trump executives didnt know. But something i think is very important here. This isnt a hotel with 200, 300 employees. This is President Trumps house and miss ivanka trumps house. Both of these houses were managed by three people. The supervising head of maintenance, the direct supervisor and the woman who is described by one of my clients as President Trumps sons na y nanny. The question is, why come forward now . You seem to be saying because things have changed . That after the president became president from just the owner of this golf club in new jersey, that they got a different notice, that there were different rules and different treatment. How so . In the case of vicky, she claims that once mr. Trump became President Trump everything changed. There were she was not allowed to go inside of mr. Trumps house, although on a couple occasions, when no one was around, they asked her to please come and clean the house. These direct supervisor became more abusive, and what they are saying now is, thats enough, were tired of this, we want to come forward, the rhetoric that is coming from washington really bothered them, and they are really upset, and they said, enough is enough. We want to tell our story. Bother them enough to risk coming forward and prove that theyre here illegally, and probably risk being deported. In the case of vicky, she is yes, she was here illegal. We have filed an asylum claim for her. Her family, her fatherinlaw was slaughtered by people in guatemala in front of her children, i believe we have a really strong asylum claim. In the case of sandra, she worked there from 2009 until 2013. Shes now a legal permanent resident. So two questions, one, an asylum claim usually you have within a year. Its about an emergency situation. Your client has been here many years, with the other client, how can she now be here legally, if she obtained the legal authorization under false pretenses . Sure. In the case of vicky, well allege theres been a change of circumstances, i believe there are exceptions to the one year rule we will argue in front of an Asylum Office or in front of an immigration judge. Sandra came in with a b1 b2 visa. Her daughter who was at one point undocumented. Baseball a legal citizen and petitioned for her mother. Sandra has been a legal permanent resident for a couple years. Do you plan a civil suit . We have thought about it, there are many facts that still have to come out. I have to sit down with them. We havent made that decision yet. Just to be clear, you have two clients but youre suggesting a number of the employees there mirror their situation . Absolutely. They are under equally undocumented and illegal situation . Absolutely. Both of my clients are in direct contact with not one, two or three. There are many people still working there who are undocumented who share the same story, yes. And they believe that at least those in direct management are aware of this, and facilitated their illegal employment . Absolutely. Mr. Romero, thank you very much, as you learn more, please pass it along. Thank you, chris, thank you. Now, first of all, theres more to this story. Mr. Romero makes other allegations that i did not have time to vet. And in the interest of fairness, you got to take that time. So theres more here, theres more than what he said, theres more than what was in the New York Times, were checking on it now, and giving the Trump Organization a chance to justify or reject those claims. We will have more on this, probably tomorrow. Now, kevin hart the comedian chosen to host the oscars is facing backlash over old tweets that say bad things about gay people. In 2011 he wrote, if my son comes home and tries to play with my daughters doll house, im going to break it over his head and say, stop, thats gay. Someones profile pic looks like a gay billboard for aids. Hart has been deleting some of the offensive tweets. If you dont believe that people if you dont believe that people change, grow, evolve as they get older, i dont know what to tell you. If you want to hold people in a position where they always have to justify or explain their past, then do you. Im the wrong guy, man. What, did he just like wake up and come to that thought . Thats what it looked like in the video. Lets bring in dlemon. Don, we have not heard from the academy about this yet. Whats your take . I had a little problem with my earpiece, chris. Go on. Its just hanging right here. Say it again. What was your question . Kevin hart is deleting tweets now that are ugly about gay people that hes had from back like 2009, even earlearlier. Hes been deleting them. He says if youre zbeeg to hold someone responsible for what they were a long time ago instead of what they are today then do you, im not the guy for you then sflp let me tell you how i feel about this, and not knowing what kevin said i think is destructive. Right . I think its terrible. Gay people are marginalized. They are in many way brutalized. Especially folks who are in the trans part of the Lgbt Community. Suffer dire consequences all the time. It is terrible. He should never have said it. That said, when someone gives an apology like that i want to take them at their word. I want to take him at his word. And i think that people can change and they can evolve. Remember, our former president , who actually encouraged legislation to be signed into law that gay people can get married, evolved on that issue. A lot of politicians do. I believe that kevin hart can evolve on this issue. I think that kevin hart is the kind of person, hopefully he will be, that will work with the Lgbt Community to make good on his past regressions and his past sins. And if he doesnt do that, then i may have a different opinion about it tomorrow or after, on and on. So hes got to do something before the oscars or i think hes doing something now. But listen, yes, there is there is a part of the culture now that they want to find fault with everyone. Hes right about that. But people have the right to be upset with what he said about gay people, especially gay kids. Gay kids are bullied all the time. Gay kids face consequences that straight kids dont have to face. Gay kids grow up thinking its bad because of the wray and a big part of what kevin hart said, i dont want my kid to be gay, i dont want they have horrible childhoods, they have to go to therapy and all that stuff. All of that is wrong. But if you are truly sorry and you tell me that you truly evolved and youve truly changed, then i need you to show me. And i do think from the limited i know kevin just in a limited way. Ive interviewed him a couple of times. Ive run into him just like at some place and say hello. I dont know him that well. But i do believe that he is the kind of person who will back up what he said. What he did was terrible, what he said was terrible. Lets see what his actions are after this. Because maybe he can end up becoming an ally and doing . Good instead of harm. I hear what youre saying. Look, well see what he does. That was not a great start. That video in bed of what he was saying. There was a nonchalance to it he cant just blow it off the situation warrants more than that. And also the academy has to step up and explain this. Didnt they vet him . Dont they know what he said in the past . Whats their position on it . But don, i respect your points, and ill see you in a second. Thank you, my brother. Dlemon, everybody. All right. So were going to take a quick break. When we come back, the mandate of this show, why it was created, was part of our facts first. Right . You remember all the cries from the president and republicans about the phantom Election Fraud in florida . Remember the millions of illegal latinos who voted in the last election . That was a lie. Well, now there is evidence of a problem that is real. But it works against republicans. So you know what you hear from them . Nothing. Crickets. The facts and the fiction of Election Fraud right under our noses. Next. And i found out that im from the big toe of that sexy italian boot so this Holiday Season its ancestrydna per tutti order your kit now at ancestry. Com about 50 of people with evesevere asthma k . Have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. Eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. Fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. 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Thats why he lost the popular vote and its one more reason that you must condemn the brown menace, as they have become, latinos, who enter the country illegally. Theyre the ones who perpetrated the fraud in california. None of it was true. It was as ugly as it was obvious. The studies, the legal actions, they all reflect the reality that voter fraud is statistically insignificant. People who arent supposed to vote who do. Trump doubles down. Uses your money to form a commission to look into these hollow allegations and is forced to shut it down because it was a sham. Then what happens . North carolinas 9th district, the congressional race, still hasnt been certified. Why . Allegations supported by significant proof that someone connected and hired by the republican candidate potentially rigged a number of absentee ballots. And you know what . If he did it, hes good at it because hes been doing it before and called aught for it before. The race is separated by 900 votes. Two different counties now report irregularities. We just learned today that the same person supposedly witnessed close to 60 absentee ballots from all different areas of the county. How can that happen . Youre not even supposed to collect peoples absentee ballots for them. It may sound like a nice gesture. But its illegal. Only certain people can do that. Who . Family members, guardians. Not somebody who just walks up on the door and says let me help you out. The democrat has now withdrawn his concession in the race because of these allegations. And the facts that have come out, the state as i said hasnt certified the election. You heard me talking to a state senator to try to figure out what happened. Theyre going to try to figure out what to do about it. And all those Trump Supporters who were supposed to be so determined to expose fraud, crickets. Where are you now . Is it that fraud only matters when you can play it to your advantage . What about all the president s highminded rhetoric about the sanctity of the process . And making sure the count is right. The only response from the gop locally so far has been to call for voter i. D. As a remedy. How would that help keep someone from harvesting absentee ballots . Your solution is to create more of a burden to participation. Come on. The hypocrisy. The greek gave us the word hypocri hypocrisy. It comes from the word to pretend. And this is pretending to care. If you care about keeping elections fair, you would call this out. Because its a real case of potential Election Fraud. Instead of selling people on a lie. And then we see this carried through. Into another truly egregious action, another hypocrisy. These vulgar moves in wisconsin and michigan to nullify the peoples will. We always say elections have consequences. We say it all the time on this show. People will complain, say i dont like this administrations policies, i dont like what the president said. Too bad. Vote someone else in. That is a key. Its a cornerstone to what motivates turnout on election day. The ability to influence the outcome of change. Its a right, not a privilege. But now we see again republicans trying rush in laws to keep the people from those two states, michigan and wisconsin, from getting the change that they voted for. Imagine this. Lastminute legislative moves to limit the power of the offices they lost. And to reserve powers in the places they have a majority. They are literally codifying changes or trying to to direc y ly contradict the mandates delivered in their statewide elections. Ignoring the fraud in an election is one thing. But manifestly and intentionally trying to subvert the loft peopwill of the people to reinforce what they that is beneath contempt. The people doing that in michigan and wisconsin, you embarrass your party. You expose yourselves as frauds. And you will damage the loft people to participate. And given all the barriers to entry and the toxicity in our political culture that is already creating such disaffection, you doing this is the worst. We see you. We see what youre doing in michigan and wisconsin. Shame on you. We will call it out. We will stay on it to make sure it doesnt happen if the people have anything to say about it. Because that is the right thing to do and what you are doing is wrong. Thank you for watching. Cnn tonight with don lemon starts right now. Wisconsin we have the governorelect, he was on last night. I saw. Two nights ago. And then tonight were going to have martha lanning, whos ahead of the Wisconsin Democratic party, to talk about what theyre doing. Theyre trying to get people out to protest, to