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Also noted for the second day in a row, this state now logged its highest single day death toll. On tuesday, that number 779. A blunt assessment. Its going to be a bad week for deaths. Reporter with overloaded hard hit communities bringing in refrigerated trailers and more help. In new york city, hundreds of National Guard members and more than 50 active duty mortuary military specialists are now assisting the medical examiners office. States and cities report a rising death toll, there is some hope. Projected deaths nationwide now expected to be close to 60,000 by august, down significantly thanks to social distancing. The message from officials, this is no time to let up. Were all looking to finally get out from under this, but its not that time yet. The progress confirms the strategys working. Reporter washington, dc, one of three cities now on the radar as potential hot spots according to the White House Task force coordinator, who also singled out baltimore and philadelphia. New cnn polling feel the federal government has done a poor job preventing the spread, and how the president is handling the pandemic. 80 feel the worst is yet to come. More rural areas starting to get hit and worried because hospitals in the areas dont have as many icu beds or the same capacity. Reporter the department of health and Human Services announcing wednesday, gm will produce 30,000 ventilators for the national stockpile, costing a half billion dollars. Theyre set to be delivered by the end of august. Hot spots around the country face concerns about meeting the need today. Anderson, i talked to mayor bill de blasio and said for the first time, he feels theres a little bit of breathing room in new york city when it comes to those crucial ventilators and supplies, theyre good for the next few days, but not to the end of this crisis. One other note, Governor Cuomo talking about the disparities, and youve been covering in terms of race and how this virus ga impacts people of color and disadvantaged communities and said the state will start today doing more testing in minority communities and also more research to better understand why so much of the disparity exists. Erica hill, thank you for the update. Meef m chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta is with me. What do you think are the most important takeaways are from this new model . Well, you know, the numbers have obviously come down. What is interesting is that the assumption, the inputs into the model are now taking into account not just wuhan and china but several countries in europe as well and i think one of the big takeaways for me, anderson, look, china did what it did. Heres what the likely impact will be, but it became clear, as you know, as weve been reporting, we werent adopting as stringent a strategy. So the question was, the countries that have been not as stringent as china, still pretty stringent but maybe a little later in terms of the stay at home orders. How did they do and when you look at them, they seem to have had some good success by implementing these social distancing orders. So taking into account all the data, updating the u. S. Data, what they find and i think we have the numbers on the screen here is that the projected death, still a lot, i think still jarring for people to look at these numbers, but they say theyre going to be significantly lower than they were just a week ago, lower than the week before that. It is just one model, anderson, and as we talked about yesterday, models are all wrong. Some are useful. This is a useful one. We asked the white house, they really cited this particular model out of the university of washington several times. Theyre talking about 240,000 possible deaths. Were looking at a dozen or so models to get to their conclusions or assumptions in terms of the overall impact. This model, im a little confused on the newer version of the model. It just changed. We talked to, is that the same model from dr. Murray . Correct, thats from the health metti icrics at the univy of washington. I think it was last night, and it was 81,000 or so. Now its 60 with the new information thats been put in. This model though, to the end of may . The edina end of may, first f june. I think its a little bit of a loose figure, not an exact date. As you remember, anderson, what theyre really looking for and all sorts of Different Things people are trying to Pay Attention to where we are on the curve, what chris murray is looking for is do we get to a baseline level of deaths in this country and i hate to sound clinical about this, but of 60 or fewer every day, once you get to that point, then we can isolate the patients and contact trace, and all the patients that are still becoming infected, it will be easier to control at that point. I think thats what he was saying. The virus is still going to be there, according to his model, but at a very low level sort of background activity. In the last hour, ive been talking to a number of doctors and epidemiologists, all of whom were talking about what Governor Cuomo referred to as the bridge out of the pandemic to the economy opening back up, people being able to go back to work and that bridge, according to Governor Cuomo, is testing, testing, Antibody Testing but also to see whos positive and whos not. If that is the case, a number of the people i talked to in the last hour were saying, we are not yet set up state by state to do that level of testing thats needed to form that bridge and were not set up to do, Public Health systems are not set up to do Contact Tracing that will also be essential at that point. Do you think thats sflu. Sadits true, its unfortuna. I think they have a good chance of being able to address this over the next couple of weeks because this is going to be happening realtime where were sort of going through this curve in many places, but that is critical. I mean, theres a list of factors that people are going to be looking at. I could look at a list of things people are going to be looking at before the country can start to think about reopening, but central is isolatinsolating. In certain communities, its harder to do. So many infections and contacts. Big Public Health challenge. At the end of the curve, hopefully youll be able to sort of come back and use that to accelerate the slowdown of the spread of this. The hospitals, if they become overwhelmed, that would not be a time that you could possibly reopen things. So theres many Different Things people are looking at but youre right. Testing was, is, and will remain the central part of this, because from that, you could isolate and trace. And when we talked about, theyd love to see a big bang of the economy, obviously, thats an aspirational thing everybody would love to see the economy roaring back, lets certainly hope that happens but in terms of just actually bringing things back online, its not something thats going to be a turnkey operation. I dont think its going to be a turn pea operation from a Public Health standpoint. Its going to be gradual, interestingly, it may be more dependent and less dependent on geography and more dependent on these Antibody Testing which weve been talking about. Giving people some confidence that may be immunized to this. People can feel most confident theyre not going to get this infection again. We dont know right now whos been infected for sure. There may be a lot of people who already had Coronavirus Infection and not known it, and they have these antibodies in the system. Thats one way to do this, but its likely to be a gradual thing and then psychologically, when are people going to want to feel comfortable going back out in public and doing those things . Anderson, i can tell you, a lot of these stories over the last 20 years. I think it will be somewhat remarkable at how quickly things change though. People have gotten used to this way of life. This isnt the way its going to be and this is going to come to an end at some point. It will be interesting to see how quickly that actually changes. It may happen fast because peoples attention deferred quickly. Great way in some ways but a danger in not learning the lessons of what happened because theres going to be, at some point, another pandemic just as this pandemic was, bill gates, 2015, look at his ted talk on warning about a huge pandemic, there could be an even worse pandemic, as bad as this was, there are potentially other viruses that could be spread in a much more easy way and have a faster and wider spread, things to do to prepare for the next eventual pandemic. Were not prepared. Absolutely, anthony fauci, he gave a talk at georgetown, i believe in 2017 where he said there will be a surprise pandemic in the next several years. He said surprise pandemic, because typically we dont know about surprises but that was the case, and we dont think about wrapping, or sort of planning for these sorts of things the way we think about defense, but now i think the Lessons Learned from this hopefully dont just sit in the drawer, but can actually be applied because theyll need to be. Bill gates talked about it costing tens of billions of dollars to do the kind of preparation needed, its a lot of money, but were talking about trillions of dollars in bailouts and relief to people. And defense overall, i mean, do we think of this as part of our defense, just protecting the country, protecting the people of the country . That is a redundancy operation. That is a Surge Capacity issue, its something we dont often think about because we dont see these viruses, but theres a lot of Lessons Learned here. Thank you very much. We know its hitting black americans especially hard. Ill talk to the Lieutenant Governor of louisiana about the promise his state made to find out why. The push to get more americans tested, whats standing in the way . Look at that and as states work with the federal government, one big problem, no one really knows whos in charge. Managing type 2 diabetes . Dimitris on it. Eating right. And getting those steps in . 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But africanamerican residents make up less than half the states population, account for most of louisianas coronavirus deaths. Thats left state officials concerned and surprised. It is very prominent to me, the results are similar in chicago and detroit and milwaukee and other places that have come online today talking about how disproportionate number the deaths are for members of the Africanamerican Community. So there might be something larger than just disparities here in louisiana. I just dont know. I dont know yet. The Lieutenant Governor for the state of louisiana joins me now. Thanks for being with us. What do you think is happening because many Experts Say Health disparities are one reason, obviously, systemic social disparities long existing are another of the drivers. Also, a lot of the africanamerican communities on the front line, a lot of the Service Industry that unfortunately is still dealing with the public and the grocery stores, some of the Service Industries that are still out there doing the job we need them to do, and so theyre bringing that home to their families, and a lot of the way we live here in louisiana, we have doubled for everyone on the front porch together and its very difficult to get louisianians to isolate and stay away from family and friends, and we saw that through this crisis, but i think a lot of the Africanamerican Community is on the front line and theyre still out there doing the jobs we need done, and paying the price for it. I was talking to Mitchell Andrew about this weeks before this became, i think it was back in january and he was saying, one of the things that a situation like this, just like with katrina does, it highlights inequalities that exist previously, bringing everything to kind of an xray, everything to the fore in society, knowing what we know now, seeing these numbers, whats the solution to this . Whats the step to take on this . Because the governor of new york talking about more testing in the africanamerican communities and also trying to study whats going on. Probably a good idea, more testing, but also, it will bring to light, if theres any good and theres always good that comes out of anything, but a lot of People Living in smaller areas where they cant isolate or keep their distance, and those people, like i said, theyre working on the front line, in the Service Industry, going home with no testing and if theyve got the virus infecting their families, it has an ability to spread more quickly, and those numbers are startling. How concerned are you about just testing in general in the state . Obviously we know the problems that existed earlier on but just looking forward because everyone i talked to says, in order to get out of this, goto get state back working, confident testing will be essential, whether its Antibody Testing to see whos already been recovered from it and is therefore immune, we hope, and to see those who might still be positive, how sis it i louisiana and how much more to ramp up the testing . Let me tell you this. I think the governor and his team have done a great job here in louisiana, as leaning forward to do all they can. Affable, a lot of the testing sites, youve got to drive to them. Many of the people that work in the Service Industry dont have that ability. Public transit is their only way to getting around, so maybe we need to try to see it isolate or get some of the testing to some of these communities where people dont have the ability to drive to those locations but the governor has done a great job of setting up many facilities all over the state, in as many we had the manpower to do to make sure we increase the testing, incredible over the last several weeks. And overall, how do you feel about where louisiana is right now in this curve . Hopefully, were going to see this thing level out in the next week to ten days, and see light at the end of the tunnel. Its been a struggle, and the numbers coming out now, theyre coming now but we expected that and hopefully well see it level out and start to decrease and see light at the end of the tunnel and get back to the louisiana we all know and love. Lieutenant governor, thank you, love laflt and goouisiana see you. Congress racing to get another 250 billion to help Small Businesses. Are we getting closer to mass testing for the virus in the u. S. . Talk to former fda commissioner. These days, its anything but business as usual. Thats why working together is more important than ever. At t is committed to keeping you connected. So you can keep your patients cared for. Your customers served. Your students inspired. And your employees closer than ever. Our network is resilient. Our people are strong. Our job is to keep your business connected. Its what weve always done. Its what well always do. I need all the breaks, that i can get. At liberty butchumal cut. Liberty biberty cut. Well dub it. 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Reporter you know, anderson, i keep going back to a conversation i had yesterday with the state official in louisiana in which he said to me, look, we have a long standing good working relationship with our regional fema workers here, given what weve been through, katrina, flooding, et cetera, but he had some frustration in the lack of transparency and the lack of guidance of how decisions were being made beyond the regional level. He told me, typically, we ask our regional fema folks for supplies we may need for hurricanes and gets to the warehouse and shipped over here. Thats not whats happening here, and so theres frustration on the local and state level in supplies coming in or rather, not coming in and who is guiding that, and making that decision. Fema is taking the lead coordinating role here, but there seems to be a lot of cooks in the kitchen, if you will, in trying to decide what works best when it comes to allocation. You have more than a dozen flights that have come in from overseas and theyre bringing in ppe, et cetera, and fema charters it in. Says half of that goes into the private market and half goes to critical prioritized hot spots. Fema, however, not releasing details as to where those hot spots actually are and what is getting to those priorities. Anderson . Jared kushner got involved with fema and hh sexs. Theres word that he was prioritizing officials to get kushner on the phone and said at one of the briefings, the friend reached out to him for something and he was able to get help for that person. Reporter right, we heard him talking about that last week, at a white house briefing. He talked about how President Trump heard that the new york Public Health system was running out of n95 masks. Made a call to the admirable and made sure the supplies got to the hospitals that needed them in new york and while some have praised kushner for that effort and accomplishment, there are many who are saying, what about the guys that dont have a direct line to President Trump . That dont have a direct line to the soninlaw and Senior Adviser of President Trump, Jared Kushner . He is taking a more prominent role, being in and out of the nrcc, thats sort of the hub of where the Logistics Team is working out of in responding to the coronavirus crisis, but thats sort of a praise and a criticism at the same time that he may get certain things done, but if you dont have a direct line, if you dont have a connection, if you are not like the state official i spoke to in louisiana that is trying to go the route that they know, going through fema region 6 and not getting clear guidance, then you may not be as lucky as the one person who called, the president. Leyla santiago, appreciate it. Thanks very much. Still ahead, Bernie Sanders stunning announcement, decision to drop out of the 2020 primary. Still going to stay on the ballot though. To add power at the convention. How biden is reaching out to sanders supporters. [ ] you want a freshsmelling home, but some air fresheners use heavy, overwhelming scents. Try febreze one; a range of innovative air fresheners with no heavy perfumes that you can feel good about using in your home to deliver a light, naturalsmelling freshness. Febreze one neutralizes stale, stuffy odors and releases a subtle hint of fragrance like bamboo or lavender eucalyptus. To eliminate odors with no heavy perfumes, try febreze one. Brand power. Helping you buy better. A book that youre ready to share with the world . Get published now, call for your free publisher kit today vermont senator Bernie Sanders dropping out of the 2020 president ial race, making the announcement and clearing the path for the former Vice President joe biden. Heres what the senator said to his supporters. There may be some in our movement who disagree with this decision, who would like us to fight on to the last ballot cast at the democratic convention. I understand that position. But as i see the crisis gripping the nation, exacerbated by a president unwilling or unable to provide any kind of credible leadership and the work that needs to be done to protect people in this most desperate hour, i cannot in good conscience continue to mount the campaign that cannot win. Joining me now, cnn political direct direct direct director david. Its a critical one, a foundation to it thats enormously helpful. They have a relationship and it is critical, as i was saying going forward, obviously, joe biden is going to need, now the President Trump ti President Trumptive company, and this combined to beat trump in november cannot leave a portion of it out. The bringing together of those are critical work. Both biden and sanders will have a role to play in it, but the leadership roles as well. Tweeted out saying, calling sanders a powerful voice for change tweeting, quote, we know how hard this is. You put the interest of the nation and the need to defeat donald trump above all else and for that, were grateful. Senator sanders endorsing biden, ultimately, though he said hes staying on the ballot because he wants to have influence at the convention, and even campaigning for him, thats one thing, getting sanders supporters to follow suit is another thing entirely. And its not going to happen, anderson, with just praising Bernie Sanders the person. Thats why you saw in the last several weeks, much of this work has been going on behind the scenes, both on the sanders side and the biden side but you saw in advance of the last debate when the two of them were at cnn studios in washington, dc, joe biden already adopted some of elizabeth warrens positions, had taken a liking to some of what Bernie Sanders had put forth during the campaign, not the most iconic sanders proposal of medicare for all, biden will not embrace that but a lot of the economic proposals and student debt proposals, these are things that are on the table for joe biden to start thinking about, so it will be in the policies that will help bring along a lot of the folks in the Sanders Movement to the biden equation and of course, it will also be donald trump as a common enemy that the Biden Campaign hoping does a lot of the work as well. David chalian, thank you. 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Grave situation into the darkest peak phase in the days ahead. Reporter im ben wedeman in rome. Investigating the high number of deaths in Nursing Homes in northern italy, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak. At one such home in milan, 63 of the 150 residents died in march alone. Mayors in northern italy believe the death toll is far higher than the official statistics because only those who died in hospital after having tested positive for coronavirus are reported. Many of those who died in Nursing Homes were simply never tested. Reporter im scott mclean in madrid. The death toll here tipped up but this is a moem te momentary the curve. Active cases was the smallest that its been in almost a month. Now the stay at home order will likely be in place until at least late april but the government is promising nonessential workers will be allowed to go back to their jobs on monday. This applies to sectors like manufacturing and construction, but not to shops or restaurants. After 76 days under lockdown, people in wuhan, china, the epicenter of the outbreak are leaving homes for the first time. Lockdown restrictions were lifted this morning. Thousands of people rushed aboard flights and trains and highway entrances reopened, even as wuhan returns to some sense of normalcy, some restrictions in place. David culver with how the threat is far from over. Reporter this feels like a trial period. China attempted to get back this business but an uneasiness here, people moving back around again and at the outbreak, could then resurface. Counting down the moment like the start of a new year, Chinese Media documenting a dramatic midnight reopening of wuhan. Officials push aside highway barriers, traffic flowing once again. For 76 days, this city with the population larger than new york city was walled off from the rest of mainland china. Today, the original epicenter of the coronavirus no longer on lockdown. A salute for the first commercial aircraft returning to wuhans airport. Inside the city train stations, an unusual site. Crowds of people, passengers going through security and screenings. Only those with a clean bill of health allowed to leave. Railway Officials Say 55,000 tickets sold for Outbound Travel on wednesday alone. Row after row of trains at the ready, just before the january 23rd lockdown took effect, cnn traveled to wuhan. We took you to the suspected source of the outbreak, this seafood market. We met locals, who like us, were unaware of the unprecedented lockdown that loomed. Behind me, this is one of a few hospitals a few hours after the report, we like so many here, got plans of word to shut down wuhan and then boarded a train back to beijing to begin our quarantine but relied on video chat to keep touch with those inside the lockdown like iris stuck for more than two months. She was on the train fully protected headed to southern china. I finally came out today. Now im on the train to its not fully operational. Its recovering. Reporter even officials caution, this is far from back to normal. We receive daily Text Messages from the government saying, hey, dont be complacent. Be cognizant there may be a second wave. Reporter a possible second wave. Its for that reason that wuhan residents like american Christopher Suzanne are not allowed to roam freely. Theyre monitoring people as they enter and leave homes and quarantine. Y, enforcing so i have a special ticket, a red piece of paper. It allows me outside for two hours per day, but only one person per family per day, two hours, so my wife, she doesnt go outside. Shes still scared. Some stores are back open, other businesses stay closed unable to weather the economic pressures of the harsh shutdown. Following subdued lunar celebrations in january, state media marking this moment as a new beginning of sorts, but the unknowns linger over a city still haunted by this devastating virus. With images like that, theres an obvious attempt by Chinese State media to portray this as a celebratory moment. It is significant, 76 days, the lockdown restrictions now easing, there arethe hoa or con equivalent that limit people going outside. So i characterize this more as faved freedom and that is what perhaps europe and those in the u. S. Will express as he slowly emerge from the lockdowns. But that may be weeks or months away. David culver, thank you very much. Up next, the race to help Small Business owners included a request for another 250 billion on top of an unprecedented assistance program. Coming up, what the proposal may mean for lenders and loan applicants. I am totally blind. And non24 can make me show up too early. Or too late. Or make me feel like im not really there. Talk to your doctor, and call 8442342424. In this time of crisis we run with them, toward those in need. 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Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin asking for an additional 250 billion to boost the Small Business program overwhelmed by demand in addition to the 349 billion program for Small Businesses struggling during the coronavirus pandemic. Phil mattingly has more on what is being done to get more money to struggling americans. We need to get money to Small Business and American Workers and that is what were doing. Reporter it is the backbone program of the largest economic rescue package in u. S. History. My administration will continue to take the bolden action in history to bring immediate relief to the Small Businesses. Reporter 350 billion for Small Businesses to save their employees amid the avalanche of layoffs nationwide. But despite the need and the president s effusive praise the great loans for Small Business. People are loving it. Reporter the rollout has been plagued by glitched, technical failures and confusion. Accelerating the anxiety for millions of Small Businesses on the pressa pis of collapse. Any time you have a program applying to the companies in america and spend 345 billion and have six days to do it, youre going to have glitched. Reporter the program is more than ten times what the Small Business administration guaranteed one year ago and government officials had 7 days to turn legislation into an economy saving program. The whole point the program is to keep 50 of america back at work so the Small Businesses can reopen quickly. Reporter one that will provide loans of up to 10 million to businesses with under 500 employees but more than that the loans would be forgiven, turned into grants if that money was used to pay salaries, payroll expenses or business costs like mortgages and rent. But the exceedingly tight time line left some details for lenders to get online on the initial days, multiple Bank Executives told cnn. The Largest Community bank trade group firing off a saturday night letter saying Community Bankers are frustrated with Unanswered Questions and lack of clear instruction on how to complete loans through the sba and hours before the program was set to launch, the largest banks put limits on which customers they would serve, infuriating some business owners. While others repeatedly ran into notices like this websites going down or under maintenance due to the sheer volume of applications as they face the Governments Technology issues as the sba system was down for hours at a time several sources told cnn. The rocky start something trump himself tried to look past. It is only going for a couple of days and it is really performing well. A couple of minor glitches already taken care of. Reporter yet there has been some progress in the days since the initial launch. As of today sba has processed over 70 billion in guaranteed loans. And each Day Administration and officials and Small Business said the business is smarting to smooth out and lawmakers considering adding another 250 billion to the program underscoring both the urgency and volume the crisis for Small Businesses and also their faith that the problems will be worked out. Even if participants say some of the current optimism has become so popular. It is really a tribute to government, really wellrun government. Reporter isnt merited. Congratulations on the success reporter just yet. And Steven Mnuchin said 90 billion of loans have been approved. Money is being approved. Not as much is going out. But to underscore how the process is moving right now, just about five minutes ago the Treasury Department sent out new guidelines to banks trying to clear up a lot of the Unanswered Questions. As one source told me earlier in the week, were essentially building the spaceship as it rockets to mars and we dont have a blueprint. That is still ongoing. But so is the need for the money and the need for this program to work. Phil mattingly. Thank you very much. Appreciate. Our special coverage continues now with kate baldwin. Ill see you later tonight. Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Hello, im kate baldwin. Thank you for joining me. Here is the state of things. Dr. Fauci is calling this week sobering. The government at the epienter of the pandemic calls the news terrible. Andrew cuomo announcing that the highest day yet of deaths in new york. 779 people in 24 hours. Pushing the National Number then to nearly 14,000 lives lost. Cuomo offering also some devastating perspective on this. Listen. Just to put a perspective on this, 9 11, which so many of us lived through, in this state and in this