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Multiple calls between roger stone and then candidate trump in 2016. Stone claims this list is not comprehensive since trump at times called him from other peoples phones. Were learning more about a joint Defense Agreement between the president s lawyers and notorious conspiracy theorist jerome corsi. Agreement allows them to share information with each other. Corsi recently rejected a plea agreement with the special counsel which would have required him to admit that he lied to federal investigators. Hes known for pushing conspiracy theories from birtherism to claiming explosives brought down the World Trade Center on 9 11. Cnn has exclusive reporting tonight about the written answers from President Trump he provided to the special counsel. Trump claims that he had no knowledge of any contacts with wikileaks. He also says he knew nothing about the 2016 trump tower meeting with donald trump jr. , senior members of the campaign and russians promising dirt on Hillary Clinton. Lots to discuss now. Lets start with National Security analyst Matthew Rosenburg and former u. S. Attorney harry litman. Harry, youre up first. Does it seem like mueller is tightening the screws and the investigation is closing in . Well, yes and no. Hes about the last part, the big chunk that to date had not been actually delineated, the whole sort of american side of the russian interference, but theres been some slip and in these screws, right . Both manafort and corsi came to the the table near cooperating in a way that would have zeroed in on stone and probably others. And now theyve taken a step back. Its clear hes got all the information for this last Building Block but i think hes going to have to possibly approach it differently now that manaforts imploded and ha corsi also. By the way, i think corsi probably, mueller probably bounced him rather than vice versa. In any event, hes no longer a potential cooperator. Interesting you should say that. Listen, another question for you, manaforts lawyers were apparently telling the trump Team Everything that was going on with the investigation. You wrote a great piece in the Washington Post titled. The manafort witness deal implosion is a very big deal. Mueller is full little entitled to subpoena manafort council Kevin Downing and whichever Trump Council spoke with him. One trusts it wasnt emmet flood who is too savvy for such shenanigans. Mueller could subpoena them all, right . Tomorrow. The argument that the communications were confidential is really very weak now. Once manafort started to cooperate, there was nos common interest between them and no privilege. It would be a detour. Heres where whitakers oversight might come into play whether he would try to revent it. It could ripen into a political battle. Charges of witch hunt. As a legal matter, its aim peckable step. As a political and practical matter, its a tactical question for mueller. My best guess is he will shy away from it. Its ripe for the pickings if he wants it. Mr. Rosenburg, youve been sitting by patiently. My next question is for you. Cnn is reporting trump told mueller in writing with he wasnt told about wikileaks and wasnt made aware of the 016 trump tower meeting. You have been covering this story. Does that jibe with what you know . Thats always been a huge question. We know his son was there. We know Paul Manafort was there. And we know that the russians advertised that we may have dirt on Hillary Clinton we want to talk to you about. Who knew, how far up it went . Whether donald trump knew at the time has been the big question. I want to step away from the legalities for a second. This is a truly astounding moment where were talking about plea agreements, people dropping out of plea deals. These people were like a chairman of the president ial campaign that won. You know, people, conspiracy theorist, a joint Defense Agreement with the president s lawyers who believes 9 11 was an inside job. Who, the u. S. Government . I dont know. Its amazing. That and the whole birtherism thing. A number of other things. Matthew, the wall street journal is reporting manafort lied to mueller about his communications with konstantin kilimnik, a manafort Business Contact who prosecutors allege has ties to the same Russian Military Intel Service that hacked the democrats. How significant would that contact be . Thats hard to say. Theres a theory that manafort was somehow a middle man here or the plant in the campaign or provided the avenue through which russians worked with trump. These things remain, you know, in the air. And though it is a big question, you know, why was a Campaign Chairman brought in who did have these incredibly close contacts . You dont normally walk around washington and find somebody in bed with russian oligarchs and russian president s allies for years. It is an incredibly unusual al profile. Then to have that run a campaign. I want to talk about this, harry, the journal is reporting mueller has questioned witnesses about a boat trip that manafort took after he was fired from the campaign with tom barrack, a long time friend of trump. They want to know if manafort met with kilimnik on that trip. What does that tell you about how much mueller may know and how much he knows . The whole fact that he was able to blow up the manafort agreement, its clear he had evidence independent evidence that will showed manafort was lying. He gave him that will last sort of tenday chance to come clean and he didnt. How does he know . He said himself or the team did in the sentencing memorandum, hes going to give chapter and verse. That means hes going to give the facts and evidence that he knows that shows manafort was lying. To matts point, remember manafort, was desperate for this job. Right . He goes hat in hand to the campaign and offers to work for free. If he possesses some information about the russian side, youve got to imagine that he was saying heres one of the reasons to hire me. Ive got this valuable information that might actually turn to dirt on hillary. I mean, it hangs together based on what we know about his sort of Job Interview that he was so desperate to the acquire. I want to get more reporting here that i want to ask you about from the Washington Post. Also reporting tonight that mueller is intensely interested in calls trump made to roger stone in 2016. I want to read this. In recent months the Trump Organization turned over to muellers team phone and contact logs that show multiple calls between the then candidate and stone in 2016 according to people familiar with the material. The records are not a complete log of their contacts, someone told the Washington Post on wednesday that trump at times called him from other peoples phones. Stone said he never discussed wikileaks with trump and diminished the importance of any phone call and any phone records saying unless mueller has tape recordings of the phone calls, what would that prove. So whats mueller after here, matthew . Lets take a minute to appreciate roger stone who kind of fills in the picture. Actually, there are even more calls can you dont know about and makes a vague comment. What does he mean . If mueller had tapes would it be incriminating . Its wonderful wonderfully frank. Look, stone was tweeting about, you know, john podesta, hillarys Campaign Manager was going to having trouble. He will seemed to anticipate wikileaks had information that was coming out. Whether he was warn the Trump Campaign has been another big question in this investigation. Now we know that he was talking to the president a lot. They go back years. Stone kind of prides himself this republican dirty trickster who probably thought he could help trump win the election. Maybe he did. It is a big question. Was trump told that hey, wikileaks has the stuff, its going to come out. Thats one of the things that we hope were going to find out soon too. Matthew, harry, thank you so much. Appreciate it. President trump trying to counter the Mueller Investigation with his own spin campaign in right wing media. But can alternative facts help him in the face of actual facts . You ok there, kurt . Were about to move. Karate helps. Relieve some of the housebuying. Stress. At least you dont have to worry about homeowners insurance. Call geico. Geico. Helps with. Homeowners insurance . Been doing it for years. Im calling geico right now. Good idea get to know geico. And see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. Its proven quality sleep. 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Good evening. So glad to have you on. April, the president knows he can rely on fox and other right wing Media Outlets to echo his message. Is this all part of an alternative set of facts he wants to push out . Of course. But you know, don, the crazy part about this is is that there is one mindset on one side of the aisle and another mindset on the other. And some people really on either side really believe what each side is saying. And at the issue, at the center of all of this is the truth. And then how you spin it or how you try to make it an alternative fact. But the sad piece about it is that you could put something out there that the president says and you know, lets say we say its this way and its fact when we say it. But then you have someone else that says well, he said this but this is what he meant and this is how it was and this, this, and throw alternative facts and people will believe it and all sorts of things now. And conspiracy theories. Times have changed. I remember when it was thats the way it was. Remember walter cronkite. Its so different now. It certainly is. Max, i want to play something. This is the former president barack obama what he said last night at rice university. Whether it was cronkite or brinkley or what have you, there was a common set of facts, a baseline around which both parties had to adapt and respond to. And by the time i take office, what you increasingly have is a media environment in which if you are a fox news viewer, you have al entirely different reality than if you are a New York Times reader. And it is interesting, max, i think because admittedly the folks at fox will tell new primetime im talking about, they dont have to work with they work with opinion. They dont have to work with facts in a way that news organizations journalists like here at cnn do. They dont have to do that. Although the viewers dont know that and think what theyre saying is fact when its opinion. How dangerous are these information silos . Do they help someone who wants to be spread false information . Its incredibly dangerous whats going on here. This is corrosive of our democracy. My friend Garry Kasparov said something very interesting as a russian dissident. Hes seen this in operation in russia where putin took over the country by controlling all the sources of information and basically feeding a propaganda line to the populace. In this country, thank goodness most of the media is free and independence and tries to tell the truth. Simply by having control of fox news and these various social media websites and radio networks, donald trump is able to force feed an alternative reality to about 30 of the country. People who actually believe that Robert Mueller, a lifelong republican and independent prosecutor, is leading a, quote unquote, gang of angry democrats on some kind of, quote unquote, witch hunt against donald trump wit is ludicrous. It is so farfetched for anybody who knows anything about Robert Mueller and his universal reputation for integrity. But this is commonly believed mock trump acolytes. Just today, trump tweeted this image which is insane even for him. Retweeted it, made up by somebody showing with the claim being that the russia allegations have been disproven. Now its time to lock up the traitors showing the traitors who need to be locked up including everybody from president obama to secretary clinton. There it is right there on the screen to Rod Rosenstein. Donald trump today actually said that Rod Rosenstein his own Deputy Attorney general deserves to be locked up because he appointed a special counsel which is his legal obligation to do to investigate these credible charges against the president. And but its stunning to me to see how so many of Donald Trumps supporters are buying into this absurd and malicious propaganda line hes feeding to defend himself against this investigation. It is shameless. What does it say about us that we have gotten to this point. April, listen, the president has done a series of interviews since yesterday with the Washington Post, with politico. The New York Post trying to get his version of reality to a wider audience. Not just to the right. Yeah. Well, you know, its important that the president puts out what he puts out beyond fox news because he understands that he has to play to the court of public opinion. And he has that base. He has his base but hes trying to go beyond that to try to make his point. The problem is is that the well has been poisoned by his own pen and his own tongue and words. So what hes trying to do at this moment is make himself look better in the public eye, the broader public eye than what he is because right now with Paul Manafort and Everything Else thats happening with russia and ivanka and these emails, hes trying to change and persuade people what you see is not what youre getting. Its this way. The problem is this president , he has hes like the kid who cries wolf. You say it so many times, you dont believe it anymore. And listening to him, people are there are a lot of people who are not his base using more Critical Thinking when he speaks versus his base saying were not giving him a fair chance. But this president is trying to change opinion and moving out. I hope he grants me an interview at some point. I would love to see that. Excuse me. I would love to see that. I would love to see that, too. I would pay to see that myself. April, i think the danger is even though a lot of people a lot of people realize what trump was saying is ridiculous, what hes basically doing is sowing doubt. There are other people who say i dont know what to believe. Donald trump claims Robert Mueller is an angry democrat. Other people are saying he has integrity. I dont know what to believe. Hes trying to create doubt in public opinion. Thats a lot of what hes after. Exactly hes like johnny cochran, if it didnt fit you must acquit. Thats why i would love to see that interview. Before i go, guys, can you guys help me say so long and farewell to one of my producers . This is her last segment she will produced. Yaz. Were going to miss her. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you, yaz. Dont forget about us when youre rich and famouser. Thats not a word. Have a good one. Republicans in congress widening their gender gap after this years election. Why when democrats are electing record numbers of women to the house . Are republicans falling behind . Welcome to tide pods talk with gronk. Im gronk im big and awesome, but this guy is little, can it really clean . Heck yeah it can its concentrated detergent plus stain fighters plus odor flighers that fight for clean. Boom even this entire bottle cant beat tide pods. And now a word from future gronk ugh. Tide pods. If its clean, its got to be tide. And im the founder of ugmonk. Before shipstation it was crazy. 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Were getting a clearer picture of the new congress, lots of diversity on the democrat side of the aisle. What will about the republicans . Lets discuss now. Van jones is here, alice stewart, tara set meyer. This america is my dream team right here. So good evening. Lets talk. Who am i going to start with . Tara. I hope you had a great thanksgiving. I havent spoken to you since. Tara, with the loss of mia love, there are now no republican africanamerican women in congress out of 53 republican senators, theres one black senator out of 200 Republican House members, there is one black house member. Whats up with that . Well, this has been a problem for decades for the Republican Party. Its been very difficult to recruit candidates that can win and that are more representative of what the country looks like as a whole. It was a shame that mia love lost. She was a good member of congress and the way that donald trump treated her was atrocious and i was glad to see her speak up and have some choice words for him. And even she said that you know, the way hes behaved the way the republicans have beak given him a pass on a lot of these racial indiscretions is one of the reasons why the Party Continues to have these problems before minority voters and also recruiting quality minority candidates to run. She said it was transactional, she said the relationship with people of color was transactional. This is i dont think youre going to see much improvement moving forward during the era of trump based on the way the party has handled how despicably hes handled race relations. Its going to make it very difficult. Alice, what do you think . This is a problem, obviously, you think its a problem, right . Sure. Not only if you look at the class photos of the house and Senate Republican and democrat, clearly the democrat picture is much more representative of the American Population. Its not just more women in the democratic side. Theres also more people, minority members, and they clearly did a better job of recruiting minorities and female candidates. And thats something that the Republican Party has acknowledged and recognized and i would like to think, i know that efforts are under way to make a correction, course correction on that moving forward tore 2020 because we not only need to have the best candidates moving forward, we need to have some that represent the American Population with their policies, but also in how they represent in washington. Alice, can i ask you something . Sure. Because i just want to frank bruni wrote a column about this today and he pointed out mia love was once appointed to as a symbol of major progress for the gop. She was. And now, you have a president whose attacking her. So that shes on the way out. What gives here . This unfortunately, the president s style. Tara was correct. Mia love was a tremendous member of congress. She did a fine job and she was someone that had not just the, in my view, the policies reflective of the Republican Party but also the correct tone and tenor. She was someone we could look up to with great pride and respect. But her situation as many have, if you dont jump fully on board with this president , you are fully off board. And. She was he will attack you. She was the daughter of haitian immigrants. She was truly the representative of the American Dream of what can happen here when you come as an immigrant and live the dream. She embodied that. It was really even more shameful the way trump attacked her. Van, we both know this. There are a good amount of black conservatives, right . Many opportunities for inroads. Traditionally africanamericans are pretty socially when it comes to religion conservative, right . So there are inroads conservatives can make in the Republican Party thusly so. Has donald trump blown it . Well, looks like it so far. Its really interesting. I remember there was one shot during 2016 where you had i think it was tim scott, nikki haley and marco rubio on the stage together. And a chill went down my spine. I said. Mine, too. Its for Different Reasons probably. I was there at the South Carolina primary. I was in the room. I said listen, short term who knows who wins. Longterm thats the Republican Party that would be very tough tore democrats to beat. And you know, fortunately or unfortunately depending how you look at it, thats not the Republican Party right now. Mia love, you know, just a beloved person, represented on both sides of the aisle. She certainly didnt deserve to be treated the way she was by President Trump. Heres what i think is interesting. Nobody talks about it though. Tim scott, only africanamerican senator who is just awesome, doing awesome stuff. He got the Opportunity Zone put into the tax bill. I mean, anytime theres something positive happening, this one africanamerican nor is senator is doing double duty, triple duty. Why wouldnt you want five, six more people like that . Its not like the one guy youve got in the senate isnt a superstar. Its a bizarre thing. Last thing i want to point out is for those protrump black conservatives sticking their neck out for President Trump, this issue around prison reform, criminal Justice Reform you have seen pastor scott and Candace Owens and others saying for gods sake, Republican Party at least pass something. Ive got to say van, those folks are so extreme. Yes. Theyre not a good representative. Theyre not allamericans and maybe more so than some of the people not of color in the party. Theyre so out of the mainstream and so not clear. They dont represent real black conservatism. Listen, i got to get to the break. Van, can you comment on this part . Can you seen the numbers, the studies on the Republican Party moving forward . Look what happened in the midterms, what happened in the suburbs and on and on. Theyre going to have to do, what was it after the. Have you seen those reports, van . Yeah, its. Brutal. They are on a pathway thats not a positive pathway for them longterm. They have to do something different. Lots to talk about. A controversial trump judicial nominee is one step closer to confirmation tonight. Well talking about thomas farr and the many accusations of Voter Suppression against him. Plaque psoriasis can be relentless. Tremfya® is for adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. With tremfya®, you can get clearer. And stay clearer. In fact, most patients who saw 90 clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. 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Today the senate voted to advance thomas farr is his name to be a District Court judge in north carolina. Civil Rights Groups say he is a disaster, that he led Voter Suppression efforts that disenfranchised africanamerican votes are. How did you feel about todays vote in the. The i felt terrible. One of the things were dealing with is the sense that democracy is on the line. Theres no constitutional right to vote but there is a sense in america that everybody has a right to vote and that it is right to vote. When you put a referee, thats what a judge is, supposed to be the referee on the bench and that person does not believe that everybody has an equal and fair shot at the democratic process, it reduces everybodys belief that the system can be fair. I think that you know, thats very dangerous in any society when people start to believe that the deck is stacked against them, that theres no justice, theres no fairness, then you know, you wind up in a very volatile situation. I was very disappointed someone like him theres a lot better people in america to be judges than him. All right. Go ahead, alice. Im sorry. Look, taking a look at this from the big picture, when President Trump came into office, there were 108 federal vacancies with regard to judges. His commitment to the Supreme Court and transforming the power of the courts was the number one reason i voted for him and many other republicans because they wanted to see him put in the justices that he wanted to put in. Democrats have obstructed this at every opportunity. Judge farr is no exception. His record, judge farr if you look at his record, it is about defending congressional lines put in place in north carolina. It was about defending the voter i. D. , making sure we had security in our elections. However, democrats have now taken that to make it look as though he is someone. Many people call Voter Suppression, alice. I think thats what van wants to weigh in. Democrats are using this as an opportunity to stop him from being appointed to this position. First, let van jump in. Tara, if you dont mind, heres the thing. First of all, you talk about vacancies that were there like by some magical spell harry potter created these. The republicans obstructed president obamas right to appoint justices for years. And held up and created those vacancies. Theyre now rushing to fill them. So dont act like its the democrats are the obstructists here. The republicans were slow walking obstructing the whole time they had control of the senate. Number one. Number two, listen, if what youre saying is true if all he was doing was impartially trying to help congress, you wouldnt have this level of outrage. Were not equally outraged about every judge. This judge is extremely hostile toward Voting Rights for minorities. Hes extremely hostile toward the Voting Rights acts. Thats why youre getting this reaction. Dont like every judge is getting this response. Let tara go. Go ahead. What did you want to say . Van made the point i was going to bring up. It is true that republicans played this game whether he trump was in office, i mean when obama was in office specifically for this judicial nomination. They had two africanamerican women that republicans blocked. That is part of the political game. Thats the advantage of being in the majority when youre in the senate. Harry reid changed the rules. You dont need 60 votes to nominate judges or to confirm judges. You only need 50. That was under democrats. Now thats coming back to bite them. That is the political side of this. The other side of this is, theres nuance here. Alice is partially right. In that some of these voter i. D. Laws are not necessarily trying to arent Voter Suppression. Some voter i. D. Laws are. And in north carolina, the courts there determined that what republicans were trying to do there isnt didnt pass the smell test. There was disparate impact affecting africanamericans. Of all the judges in the world they have to pick someone like this who has this. Im running out of time. The perception here is that you have someone, whether he is or isnt hostile to voter i. D. And hostile to minority Voting Rights and all of that, the perception is that he is. Ive got 20 seconds. I want to get this in because van mentioned tim scott earlier. He said hes doing a great job. The only black gop member. He voted to advance farr. He said he wasnt sure and then said im going to do it. Quickly. Is that doing a good job. I dont like everything that tim scott does but tim scott has done more good than bad. They should have more republicans like him. Hes doing the right thing in regard to with these allegations that came out. Hes reading everything carefully. Hes making sure he makes the right decision. He voted to advance the vote. I expect him to vote to confirm him tomorrow. Hell make the right decision. In defense of tim scott, he did do his homework. He found there was not a paper trail that he was actively involved in any Voter Suppression. Thank you all. Saturday van has oneonone interview with his guest andrew gut gillum. Defeated in the florida governors race right here on cnn. Make sure you tune in. Hate speech seems to getting louder and more public since trump took office. Whats behind the increase. A new cnn special report on the state of hate. Thats next. Sleep. The new sleep number 360 smart bed, from 999. Intelligently senses your movement and automatically adjusts on each side to keep you both effortlessly comfortable. It can even warm your feet to help you fall asleep faster. How smart is that . Smarter sleep. To help you shed those sugar cookies, get a running start on the holidays, and take it all in with the patience of a saint. And now, save up to 500 on select sleep number 360 smart beds. Only for a limited time. 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What is behind the spike in these crimeses . Cnns sara sidner looks for answers in her special report the state of late. Hate. Were going to kill all of you. Reporter across america racism and anger once hidden in the shadows pouring out into the light now. In santa monica, a racist tirade over a parking space, a message for muslims in a car in north dakota. Reporter a black army veteran killing White Police Officers in dallas. A landscaper abused in los angeles. Why do you hate us . Because were mexicans . Yeah. Words of hate which seem to be banished now brand dished more and more often. Fbi says in 2017, hate crimes shot up 17 . The motivation for nearly 60 of those the government says was Race Ethnicity or ancestry. She didnt see it coming. Reporter kevin dunns favorite aunt vickie jones had beaten cancer but could not survive hate. 67yearold jones and 69yearold mallory stol lard shot dead while Grocery Shopping targeted because of their skin color police say. They were black, the alleged shooter white. A white witness armed with a gun told his son what the shooter said while fleeing. He said please dont shoot or i wont shoot you. He said whites dont kill whites. Reporter what do you think about what was said . It hurts. Its sad. Its terrible. People have the right to just exist. Reporter the suspect police say could have caused far more carnage. Pastor kevin nelson says a parishioner saw him earlier at their church door. He bangs on it and then he backs up with his had on the gun. Whoever would have opened it would have possibly gotten shot and killed. Reporter his church began looking its doors after dylann roof massacred nine people in this church as they prayed. Ken parking knows something about the hate that motivated dylan ruth, a navy veteran and without work and direction he joined the ku klux klan and later the neonazi group, make him feel he was important, part of a bigger cause. They were looking at it like were going to have a race war one day and the more people at our side the better. Reporter at the time barack obama was president. Some White Supremacists touted the first black president at the number one threat to white people. And we would even joke amongst ourselves like, hey, were going to send president obama a honorary membership to the klan because hes our biggest recruiting tool. Reporter then came the election of president donald j. Trump. White nationalists cheered his antiimmigration rhetoric. Racists who feared what they called the browning of america saw what President Trump was an answer to all their prayers. They want an all white state. Where white people live by themselves. Several months after trumps inauguration parker virtually broke paid 30 to help fill a bus of racists go to charlottesville, virginia. For a protest about a confederate monument. They dubbed it the hate bus. Reminiscesent of a bus from the 1960s created by another neonazi. On paper we were going up to stand up for the white race. Honestly i think everybody was just going to fight. Violence does happen and a woman is killed. What did you think at that point . Well, when i found out she died i was happy at the time. Reporter he and his cohorts giddy when an alleged neonazi sympathizer killed counter protester heather heyer. In their minds the race war they wanted was beginning to materialize. But when the president condemned the attacks he added you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. How did that play in the group, the good people on both sides . Honestly, some of them were real happy about it and then trump backpedaled a bit on it a bit and then others in the movement they got angry at trump. Trump wasnt antijewish enough, he wasnt doing enough for white nationalism. Michael german spent 16 years trying to counter domestic terrorism as an fbi agent. Theres also argument that the leftists are violent, and theres some evidence of that. How many people has anybody associate would the Antifa Movement killed . None. How many of this side of White Supremacists killed . Many. According to Government Accountability office since 9 11 when radical islamists were responsible for 27 of deaths, far right wing accounted for 73 of deadly incidents, far more than any other group. In parkers case it wasnt Law Enforcement but love that thawed his hate. So you decided that animosity wasnt the way and shunning wasnt the way but the opposite. Absolutely. I fight for peace and what better way to start than your own community . Reporter his neighbor not only opened his arms, he opened his small predominantly black church to parker. His outreach washed away the hate. And sarah joins us now. Sarah, have you gotten a sense from your reporting about how much of this hate stems from the current political environment and how much comes from other sources . So whats interesting about that, and you know this full well, don. Youve been reporting on this sort of thing for a long time. What is interesting is the political rhetoric does not create racists. It doesnt. Thats already in somebody. When you talk to others that does track this sort of thing by the way, the government doesnt track this like they do other statistics. Theyre leaving that up to the antidefamation league. And when you talk to the people who research this stuff, paying attention to it and have been for decades they say it is the political rhetoric that has emboldened people who already have those strong feelings that they have kept quiet because society said this isnt okay, youre not going to act like this. Now all of a sudden its coming out, and thats why we seem to be seeing it more and more and more of them. Eye opening reporting. Sarah snider, thank you so much. Well be right back. Plaque psoriasis can be relentless. 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