Says shes very satisfied with the governments response. Anybody else think that sounds a lot like heck of a job, brownie . Lets go right do our cnn exclusive. A twitter and facebook account disguised to look like they were run by the same black activist were run by russians. Part of the material being handed over to congress in its investigation into the russian meddling in the president ial election in 2016. The accounts, both called blacktivist posted i ha eed vid. This says watch another savage video of police brutality. We live under a system of racism and police are directly letting us know how they feel and where they stand. Our Senior Reporter for media and politics is dilan buyers and joins me right now. Also Mark Jacobson of georgetown university. Thank you all for joining us. Mark and dilan, welcome back to the show. Dilan, these posts were all designed by the russians to amplify racial tensions here in the u. S. Thats absolutely right, don. It gives you an idea what the russian strategy was, and also how well the russians understood the sort of political and cultural flashpoints for us. I want to bring up something about the russian motivation here thats significant, and something that many of your the experts you had on in the past hour alluded to, which is this. This is so much bigger than the 2016 campaign, although it certainly may have had ramifications for 2016 campaign. What this is really about is a russian strategy, theyve used it in other countries, to drive a wedge between americans. To basically amplify the political discord that already exists in this country and to create and atmosphere of chaos. It helps them in that regard that donald trump is president. But it wouldnt be all that much different if Hillary Clinton were president , so long as americans feel pitted against each other, so many Public Opinion polls would suggest thats the case. The russians are winning in their mind. And that is really what this campaign was geared towards. When you look specifically at an account like this blacktivist account on facebook and twitter, you understand how they believed they could achieve this goal. How influential was this group . We looked at the facebook page. They had more than 360,000 likes. You look at the official veri verified black lives matter facebook page, it has about 300,000. Explain why you say this account is an example of war being waged by russia on two fronts. So when we look back to 2016, there was two fronts that russia is waging. One is the first that dilan just described, which is the sort of social, cultural disruption that they knew was catering to a lot of divisions within our own society. The second is, of course, the one thats being investigated by robert mueller, which is, was there direct or complicitsy with the Trump Campaign and the russians. They come to the same question looking forward as dilan was saying, which is is facebook and twitter enabling russia in the future by failing to do anything about this . And is trump enabling russia in future elections by denying that it happened . So in some ways, everyone pretending like it wasnt my problem is just sort of laying the ground work for russia to do it again. So im also like dilan worried about the future as much as it is about 2016. Youre saying facebook is culpable here. The russians are exploiting our divisions, mark. You say you knew this was bigger than the election and it happened before. Explain what you have found. I keep thinking, listening to both that passes prologue. The soviets were very capable at sewing division or exacerbating the racial tensions that already existed in the United States, especially in the 1960s. They tried to fan the flames of a peaceful africanamerican protest movements. They tried to sow propaganda that argued Martin Luther king was an uncle tom. The russians also did an effective job convincing the world that aids and hiv were a cia plot. We still see echoes of that today. When i see past is prologue, lets look at the bigger picture. As juliette said, this is just fighting on two fronts. Its also one part of a Larger Campaign designed to weaken the United States. So if we are focused internally and because of our divisions theres paralysis on the domestic front, thats to putins advantage and the rest of the world. We cant focus on the transatlantic relationship, we dont have time to deal with things in the middle east and the complexities of the problems in asia. Thats exactly what vladamir putin would like to see. I was going to ask you to what end, but he wants to weaken us and put our attention elsewhere. David, this cnn exclusive reporting comes on a day when representatives were on capitol hill and it didnt go too well, did it . No, it didnt. I think congress wanted to put some of the pressure on twitter and by extension on facebook to try and get them to be more vigilant with their own internal processes, so that we are not in the future as vulnerable to this. But look, i think everybody has said, and first of all, its great reporting by dilan and great context by mark and juliette. This is not a situation where theres one group to blame or one company to blame. You have russia making this concerted effort to sow discord in our country, not just in the election cycle but in general. This is a time for americans to look at this more broadly. If i can be an optimist for one second, don, even though this is Serious Business and i dont want people watching to think this is being naive. This is where we are when you live in a free society. Juliette has written about this in her book. When you dont have censorship, when people are allowed to express them southeaselves, you vulnerable to this kind of manipulation. What we as a society have to do is balance our freedoms with being vigilant to the fact that clearly, from the reporting, from dilans reporting, the reporting of the Washington Post and the new york times, that we are under attack. And become more media litera literate. But how do you do that . Dilan, you said today that you couldnt tell how much facebook and twitter disclosed about russian rinked accounts. How much more will we see . My view is this is the tip of the tip of the iceberg. The reason i say that is this congress put pressure on facebook to come forward with what it knew about russian meddling through ad buying on its platforming. Facebook went and they looked at any times they could find to the firm thats tied to the kremlin in russia. So they got the low hanging fruit. It was anything that they could get ahold of that was obviously connected to that group. So theyre looking at russian ip addresses, russian credit cards. Twitter comes in, twitter search is limited to accounts that it knows about, based off of the accounts that facebook has already found. Thats an even more limited number of accounts. Anything more sophisticated than that, an ad buy that used another currency, an ip address from another country. Anything that even took the most basic steps to try and hide what it was doing, may not have been found by facebook or twitter. That is one of the reasons that congress, the senate and house intelligence committees, want and will have a public hearing with these companies on november 1. They need more information and they need the public to know that theyre trying to find more information, that they need that information in order to prevent this from happening in the future. Fascinating conversation. Thank you all. When we come back, well dig deeper in the story and how russian trolls are exploiting an american weak spot. And the center slamming a white supremacist on twitter. 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Surprising to you . Its not surprising. At this point, nothing about this election or how it happened or any of the fallout is surprising. I think the one thing that we can point to is weve all been trolled on twitter and folks continue to say things like, dont respond, its a bot or whatever. So we know these accounts exist. I think the most surprising part of it is its still tied to the kremlin. Thats just odd. Van, its important to keep in mind that these russian trolls are exploiting a very real weak spot in america. Look at charlottesville. Look at the angry around the country. The fbi announcing today they are investigating over a thousand incidents of suspected White Supremacists or domestic terror according to the Washington Post. Do you think President Trump will acknowledge that he can play a role in bridging our country together instead of pushing it apart . I dont think that trump is likely to do that any time soon. I do think that this is one of the reasons that when they criticize the young people who are protesting black lives matter et cetera and say you guys are doing something wrong. No, the reality is you have a movement of young people, very intelligent, very smart, policy smart, some of them have elected people to office, say we have a real problem here. And if we dont deal with it, its going to get worse and our enemies will be able to use it against us. Who are the real patriots . Are these young people who are out here trying to make america better, lifting up some of these issues, begging for Real Progress who want liberty and justice for all, can we now call them patriots . Because what youre seeing happening right now is, because of our inability to deal with this issue, our enemies are now taking advantage. Listen, ben sass, nebraska senator, really upset, got into a fight over this with Richard Spencer on twitter, share agnews story on the russian trolls and saying this. He said, no one loves american infighting more than putin. To which spencer replied, in the minds of guber conservatives, the russians are to blame for racial tensions. Sass went on to call spencers ideas unamerican, poison. Why cant President Trump talk this way about russian meddling and white supremacy, ben ferguson, thats for you. Well, ill say two things. One, i think the president certainly moving forward has to do a better job being very clear about these certain issues. And theres a lot of concerns that have challenged him on that to make sure he does. I think he understands how to talk bold and blunt, and theres a lot of people that want him to be a little more bold and blunt. But i also think that we have to be cautious not to take the bait and allow people that hide behind computer screens, whether theyre White Supremacists or americans or russians to divide us. A lot of what youre describing tonight is the cowards that hide every time all of us are on tv. All of us get it from people that say things to divide us, they vulgar and disgusting things, wishing you were dead, saying youre unamerican just because youre something or youre a racist. We all have to learn from this. People like Richard Spencer the guys who are down there [ overlapping speakers ] but don, don, how many people come after you who hide behind a computer screen every single night . The same number of people that come after me when i come on your show. My point about russia, russia sees theres a vulnerability here that they can manipulate a conversation in this country and hide behind a computer screen, the same way neonazis and other racists do things. Heres the difference. I dont really care. I dont read it. I know what it is. But it does have an impact on this country. It does. But you didnt let me finish my point. There are people who cant distinguish between it, especially when you have the leader of the free world who is promoting it. Take a look at this poll. 60 of people, this was a pew poll or quinnipiac poll, 60 believe the president is dividing the country, 35 say no. Let me get me thought out. The reporting shows the russians are trying to sow dissent and discord thats what the president is doing. But don, theres a lot of people that would look at what youre doing right now is the same thing. How . By reading a poll . Some people that are watching this right now. Im saying you love to have this grand debate, and some people would say that what youre doing right now every night when you pound the president and you demand that he talk a certain way, to be acceptable to you is dividing the country because youre pound thing every day. Im not demanding anybody be acceptable. You hit on him hard every day. Were reporting on him and hes not acting president ial. What is wrong with reporting on that . What is wrong with reading a poll thats true . Im speaking truth to power. He doesnt like that. You dont like it. You dont like the reality of the situation [ overlapping speakers ] hold on, ben and then alice. Quickly, ben. Don, there are days when we have debates here where its very clear that you have something that you dont like about donald trump and you are going to pound him on it, which you cant then say ben, that is not true. Thats your that is your opinion. That is your opinion. Sure, it is my opinion. Because you are you have a certain point of view and certain perspective that you would hike to get across. I dont have that. Im just asking questions. Im reading information and facts about the president , because those facts are not favorable does not mean i dont like the president. So youre way out of line with that. How many how many times have you given him credit for anything since hes been president . Im here every night. Im here every single night for five nights a week, two hours. This is not about giving somebody right. How many times have you given him credit for doing something . It is not my job to give him credit. I give the facts, without favor, and if he doesnt like them, if you dont like it, that is too bad. But those are the facts. The facts are the facts. So im sorry, thats how it is. Go ahead, alice. If i could say, with regard to the question you brought up about russian bots and interference in the election. It is no surprise, and this is the way its always been, that President Trump doesnt like to talk about russian meddling in the election, because he views that as questioning the legitimacy of the outcome of this election. Be careful, because youre going to be seen as pounding the president. But go on. The reality is he won the election. I think that is something that sooner or later he will have to acknowledge. Heres the problem with that, whether he talks about russian meddling or not, the fact remains, they did meddle in the election. We have just begun to scratch the surface on their infiltration with regard to facebook and twitter. I commend facebook for coming out and answering questions and providing information. Twitter acknowledges they have agree. Heres the problem. They are also protecting a lot of information out of privacy rights. Whose privacy, russias privacy . I think its critical, while facebook is doing everything they can to put information out there, i think we need to continue to put all of this out there. I dont care if they influence the outcome of the election, i care that they did have anything to do with our election in the first place. So its really important that we get all this information out there with regard to how theyre influencing our social media, how theyre getting involved in our election, because we cannot let this happen our next election. Well continue this conversation right after this. The opioid my doctor prescribed for my chronic back pain backed me up. Big time. 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The only time members of Congress Take flights that are chart eed if theyre going on congressional trips. But its not something that he should have been accustomed to, given the successful medical practice he had. Inquiring minds want to know. But nevertheless, i think its a major distraction that this administration cant afford at this point, because it looks like, again, theyre out of touch and they dont understand how to work within the confines of everyday american folks and how people live their lives. Van, he said hes going to pay it back. Hes making a big show of reimbursing taxpayers, around 52,000. The only problem is the estimated cost for the travel could be worth over 1 million. Heres what he said about it, and then well talk. By paying for my portions of these trips is a huge demonstration, its never been done before. Unprecedented as im told. So van, thats about 5. 2 of the actual cost if its a Million Dollars. Thats a small fraction. I mean, it sun precedented, he is correct, its unprecedented to see this level of corruption and abuse flagrant at this point. I cannot imagine during if Obama Administration if it turned out that one of that one of the major cabinet officials had decided to just take it upon him or herself to spend 1 million flying themselves around the country. It would have been i mean, it would have been a massive, massive scandal. You would have had Congress Meeting around the clock. There would be hearings called, people would be demanding investigations. These crooks, how can they do this . Youre going to jail, buddy. Lock him up. I hear none of that. Thats part of the problem i think that we have right now, is that the standards have fallen through the floor from a party that was trying to hold barack obama to nearly super human standards that he frankly most of the time met. So i think theres really no way at this point for the Trump Administration to maintain this idea that theyre this populist thing, theyre on the side of the little people. Theres not one little person in the Trump Coalition who would think spending 1 million when you could fly on delta or southwest is a good use of the american peoples mind. The interior secretary that he took a 12,000 charter flight in Oil Executives plane. Thats what the document showed. The Washington Post is reporting that. Ben . Look, first off, i think its bush league to fly this much private when youre supposed to be serving the people of the United States of america, and youre supposed to be making sure that their tax dollars are protected. This was a stupid move. I also think the Million Dollar estimate is ridiculous. Seeing what campaigns pay for private jets for months flying all over the country, to say a couple of his trips add up to a Million Dollars is it was a military jet, internationally to asia and africa. Again, go look at a g5 or g6 and see how much it costs to fly anywhere in the world. Its not a Million Dollars. Its probably several hundred thousands. Eight months, ben. Lets not put out ridiculous numbers. How many trips was it . Ben, youre arguing about something that does not exist again. Don, don how many trips in eight months did he take . Don, i can see where it would add up to a Million Dollars over eight months. Ben, is there nothing you wont make an excuse for. Hold on, alice. Is there nothing because we challenged you on something. Is there nothing you will not make an excuse for . Youre saying okay, they shouldnt be doing it. I asked a simple question that you havent answered. How many trips was it . I asked you how many trips . Listen, its dozens of flights, two internationally. Some of them on military jets. Hes admitted it, and is telling you how much hes going to pay back. Yet youre still saying [ overlapping speakers ] hes only paying back 5. 2 of the money. I want that kind of loan. Hes paying back for his seat, not for the charter. All i said was [ overlapping speakers ] go ahead, alice. Don, never have me back, because i can never talk here. Im teasing. We have to give the administration a little credit because they are holding him accountable. But when an official says the taxpayers are not paying one dime, theyre paying more than that, and theyre reimbursing the government because they got caught. Sit a good thing, this was brought to the president s attention. He said im not happy about it, im going to do something about it, and he is. We heard today from the press briefing that they are looking into it and making sure it doesnt happen again. This is a Good Opportunity for the press to hold the administration accountable. Alice, do you think he should be fired . No, i dont think he will. I think hes going to continue to do what hes been doing. He has been working hard, along with others to help try and get some Health Care Reform passed on repealing and replacing obamacare. I think hes doing the best he could do. But i dont think hes going anywhere. What about the golf courses, though . I know this is about his charter jets, but theres been a lot of money spent at these golf courses spent with donald trump being the person accountable. So hes wasting taxpayer dollars, too. Yeah. Is everyone in trumps cabinet trying to keep up with the billionaires . There are a lot of billionaires, seriously, and these people, some of them, are paying for their own private travel. Some of them have their own jets. Are they trying to keep up with appearances . Some people are just stupid. I think some people are stupid and they see an opportunity to travel in a great way and when they get busted they get busted as they should. I will say, as a jones, i dont think anybody is trying to keep up with me. [ laughter ] thats cute. What i would say is that, i got a chance to serve in government for about six months, and what i saw in the Obama White House is 180 degrees different than what im seeing with the trump white house. I want to remind people, Valerie Jarrett was a complete task master when it came to not only the letter of the law. Forget the letter of the law. The spirit, the optics. Any sense of impropriety at all. People on the obama staff walked the straightest line you could walk, and it got into the blood system, where people were selfpolicing each other, and nobody wanted to do anything that might embarrass the Obama Administration. We knew we were under scrutiny. I resigned because stuff i had done almost 15 years ago got in the press. I didnt want to bring any extra attention to the white house. There was a sense that this is the white house. This is the white house. You have to act above and beyond. Not just are you breaking the rules and can you get away with it . But what kind of image are you creating . That just seems to be gone. It seems to be whatever we can get away with. If its legal, illegal, ethical, not ethical. As long as we dont get caught in the press, its okay. And that starts at the top. Youre talking about one person here. No, im not. [ overlapping speakers ] okay, youre talking about two people then. Lets not indict an entire administration with hundreds of people because of the action of two. It would be three including scott pruitt. And other people in the Administration Reportedly on some of those flights. Ben, youre making my point for me. You are correct, there are undoubtedly a bunch of people in that building that go there every day that are doing a good job, but the reality is, those people are suffering too, because there is a sense that theres some green light someplace in that building for all kinds of shenanigans and nonsense. So yes, youre correct, its not fair to paint everybody with that brush. By my point is, once you have one, and then you have two, youve got to you run an organization yourself, ben. Youve got a culture now that you have to deal with. Were out of time. Heres the thing about the white house. It was clear the white house didnt put their arm around him and make it better for him. He still has a job. Everybody else better cut it out. He gave back 5. 2 of the money. How many people do you want to get fired here . [ overlapping speakers ] theres not a moratorium on people getting fired for doing the wrong thing. If youre doing the wrong thing, you should probably get fired. When Michelle Obama took off two hours early to go to chicago and we paid for that flight, did anyone say she should get fired . Because that did happen. Michelle obama is not the first lady anymore. When we come back, the Trump Administrations hurricane response. With half the people of puerto rico without clean water, almost everyone without power, more than 3 million americans would probably disagree. The Trump Administration defending its efforts in hurricane ravaged puerto rico, but millions of american citizens there are desperate for help there. Cnns correspondents are all over puerto rico covering for it. I want to go to ivan watson live for us in san juan. President trump is tweeting tonight on the crisis in puerto rico. One says, puerto rico is devastated, phone system, electric grid, many roads gone. Fema and First Responders are amazing. Governor said great job. Ivan, the president says food and water are being delivered. Whats the reality there on the ground . Reporter i went to a Community Today that hasnt gotten any assistance at all, the locals say don, from the outside world in more than a week now, since Hurricane Maria. Part of this is complicated by the fact that the main bridge linking to that community was washed away in flash floods after the storm. Take a look at an excerpt and example of what we saw there on the ground. The wire that theyre hanging on to has been set up by residents of the town. This is their improvised method for trying to reach the outside world. We just spoke with a couple who had crossed this way and then walked two hours to the nearest supermarket to try to get bread and food and rice for their children, and then had to walk two hours back. So what i saw were residents whos hawho havent gotten any help. They have no telecommunications. They have to ford a river and walk for hours to buy bread to feed their children. If they want fuel, to run their generators, they have to do that, and then stand in line for hours in gas stations. The community that i visited said that they had gotten a visit from some fema representatives right after the storm, but no help. And theyve gotten a couple of visits from a municipal mayor, but again no help. They distributed food from their shattered school that was messed up by the storm to the community. We sawmill tear helicopters fly several times overhead, but they never stopped in this town. So i didnt see any help whatsoever going to these americans in thats lais isolat cutoff town, that was only 45 minutes drive from san juan. Unbelievable. Im wondering if theres a sense of panic setting in. How long can these people go on without adequate services, without food, without water . Reporter i did speak with residents who were overwhelmed. Certainly after hiking for hours under the hot sun, carrying food to their children. Whats very impressive is that there is just the kind of, weve to the to survive and get through this kind of attitude, even if, again, theres no electricity, theres no telecommunications. And your house, the walls have been blown in, and the roof has been blown in. I saw people sleeping in their they put their mattresses outside their houses to sleep in at night. One woman i talked to said listen, if i dont get my job again at the school because the school was damaged, im talking with my son about moving to texas at the end of the day. So people are just trying to survive and move forward. But i was really struck. Traveling around some 50 miles today on the roads, out and back, i counted five cars with flashing lights that looked like some kind of government cars. I saw one military humvee. I saw one crane and one truck with Something Like a generator. I didnt see convoys of workers fixing the cell phone towers, fixing the power lines, fixing peoples homes. I just didnt see it. And i only traveled about 25 miles as the crow flies from san juan west. Im sorry, its been a long day and in the hot sun. But i thought i would see more. Don . Certainly understandable. Ive been watching you all day. Youre doing a fantastic job there bringing the information to these people who are suffering so much. Ivan, thank you so much. Please try to get some rest and well see you back here soon on the air. Ivan watson reporting live from puerto rico. I want to bring in the mayor of miami beach. His city was battered by Hurricane Irma just two weeks ago. Now hes working to help the people of puerto rico. I mean, what an awful, awful story, mayor. You were down there in san juan yesterday meeting with the mayor there. You were able to bring supplies with you, as well. What did you see . Don, we landed in this magnificent aircraft filled with everything you could imagine, from diapers, medical supplies, water, food, generators, batteries. When we landed, the mayor of san juan, mayor cruz, she literally had tears in her eyes when i came down the gangway. Literally had tears in her eyes. Shes there with the people, doing everything she can. What did i see . I saw a city that was devastated. Power lines down, poles down, flooding. No electricity whatsoever. Its a sad situation to see a major American City in this condition, don. And you dont see a lot of people around from the government, just as your reporter just said to you. And people forget, it is an American City. Youre in a unique position, mayor. You just went through a hurricane in florida. Were now eight days out of this one. Do you think President Trump responded as quickly to puerto rico as he did to the hurricanes the ones that hit texas and florida . Not at all, don. Here in florida, we have big resources, were on the mainland. Same with texas. This is an island out in the middle of the caribbean that needs help. Ive got to help you, i am so disappointed in the leadership that came out of washington in this situation. You cant tweet this away. You cant tweet water or generators. You know, don, i have to tell you, the greatest generation, when we fought world war ii, when we landed in normandy, there werent always these excuses the weather is not good. Were not sure if the community can handle it. Maybe theres a couple hundred thousand nazis shooting back at us. They landed and got the job done. What you dont see is that same military way of thinking to get it done when these people were attacked by Hurricane Maria that are experiencing devastation. Why is that, some lack of foreign or emergency policy experience this we have lots of airplanes and ships and helicopters and lots of resources. Why do you think that is . I have a sign in my office in city hall in miami beach. It says the speed of the leader determines the rate of the pack. You see it in any organization. Im sorry to say, were seeing lack of ceo skills in the white house right now. They dont have the right people in place. They dont activate them. Theres no sense of urgency. Theres no one in command and control. Thats really whats going on. Im going to call it the way it is. Mayor, thank you. Thank you. When we come back, personal stories from Puerto Ricans living under siege. They see things there much, much worse than any of us have seen. Can i kick it . Yes you can can i kick it . Yes you can can i kick it . Yes you can well im gone Puerto Ricans desperate for aid in the aftermath of Hurricane Marias destruction. Joining me now cnn political contributor. Also her family in puerto rico. Her brother, row better oh core doena and his wife desiree. Good evening to all of you. Thank you so much for joining us. Roberto, i know communications are tough there so bear with me. Its hard for you to hear. How will you guys doing . Tell us what youre dealing with. Well, right now every day is a challenge. I think that we listen to the radio, to apple radio every day, and we think the next day its going to get better, but then the day comes and nothing is changed. Its the same four or fivehour gas line. Its the same 500 people trying to get into a supermarket. And its something thats really disconcerting to think that, you know, all of this aid is supposedly here, but you cant see it. You dont see it anywhere. So desiree, i got a note from maria saying that, you know, your husband and many other people will wait in line, drive for a ways, wait in line for hours, maybe six hours at a time. There may be looters. Explain to us whats going on. Take us there, if you can. Well, security is definitely an issue. Its something that i worry about every time i go out, when roberto and i go out to get gas or when we have to go get something at the supermarket or even at our own home. You hear stories of looting, of armed robberies, of car jackings, of gas stations being held up by drug traffickers that take over the gas station just to fill up their own cars and just Horror Stories that maybe the Police Department isnt in tune with everything thats going on because theyve got so much on their hands. So you think as a citizen if something happens to you, if you get held up, if youre a victim, who is going to respond . Can you ask roberto if he would like to Say Something . I know hes having a hard time hearing if you want to ask him. Yeah. I just want to say that yeah. I just want to say that one of the major problems has been trying to get gas for generators just to run a simple refrigerator. Those gas lines have been four, five hours long at the beginning. Theyve gotten a little less, but its been a daily routine to make gas lines for two to three hours. And you can only get between 25 if youre walking with a tank and 40 if youre in your car. But really people need more than that in order to drive further distances, in order to fill their generators. So you get the same people in the same gas lines every day, day after day. Thank goodness that today they passed a law that gas stations starting tomorrow will not be allowed to do that. And i think that will bring down the level of lines a little bit. There wont be a limit. But i think people are still going to want to hord their gas now so they dont know if that will change. So the lines for the next two days will be long. So the least people will be able to get their fill and move on, three, four days on the highways you see hundreds of cars that are stalled because they ran out of gas. They literally ran out of gas trying to get to san juan where they know that there are a lot of gas stations open, so its really a tragedy for these people. I want to bring maria in. Maria, we have a short time left but i know that youre just happy to be here to see your family, right. Yes. Thank you so much. I know you were worried. Dont make me cry on tv, seriously. So lets ill control myself. What do you think when you see you want people to know about this. Yes. So what i will say is the Horror Stories that roberto and desiree are talking about and theyre one of the lucky ones. They have generators and their house was minimally damaged. But the Horror Stories are out there, don. And your reporters have been so great at bringing those stories to light. And what i want to underscore is that the Trump Administration has got to stop patting themselves on the back and start focusing and putting their Heads Together on how to get help to these 3. 5 million american citizens. This is an island that is on the verge of the collapse of Civic Society if they dont focus on how to get aid to the folks that are outside of san juan. San juan, yes, absolutely, difficult. The lines and, you know, we dont know whats going to happen if we dont get the supplies there. But you have the rural areas where you have the morgs and the hospitals are being over run. I think that the death toll is going to be a lot higher than what has been reported. And there is now, i think, a big threat of a Public Health issue if things dont get under control. Ive got to go because its the end of the show. Thank you. Good luck to you. If we can help out any more than we have, please let us know. And maria, you know, i will have you. So thank you. Thank you, don. I really appreciate it. Absolutely. Before we leave you tonight, i want to turn to some very good news. Congressman steve scalise, the House Republican whip who was shot in june when a gunman attacked a Congressional Baseball Team practice returned to capitol hill today. President trump tweeting a welcome back message. The congressman called his recovery a miracle. [applause] good for him. Glad to have him back and that hes doing much better. Thats it for us tonight. Thank for watching. 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