But is it really a diversionary tactic in the wake of charlottesville . Is it working. Lets discuss. The conservative coalition, and David Swerdlick and sir michael singleton. And brunell shea. I make sure i say that. Did i pronounce that . Its sha. Sorry about that. The former vice chair of diversity outreach for the national i want to play two clips back to back. First one is from today. Second is from last night. It is time to heal the wounds that divide us. And to seek a new unity based on the common values that unite us. We are one people with one home and one great flag. We are not defined by the color of our skin. The figure on our paycheck or the party of our politics. So, so they were having a hard time with that one because i said everything. I hit them with neonazi, i hit them with everything. I got the white supremacist, the neonazi. I got them all in there. Kkk. We have kkk. I got them all. So theyre having a hard time. So what did they say . Right. It should have been sooner. Hes a racist. So how do you make sense of that . Is he speaking out of both sides of his mouth . Kkk, don, we have kkk. The first clip you played of the president speaking today when he was taking the more somber tone, its a version of the we all bleed the same red blood sort of construction he used in his inaugural address hes used on occasion just when he gets in those moments when hes under pressure for his lack of credibility with a broad section of americans on issues of race and gender. And he goes to that sort of construction. But its what he says in between those somber moments that has gotten them in trouble. And its why that language about all of us being the same, which is true, and all of us being americans, which is true, sometimes falls on deaf ears. Whether it was the fact he was the public face of birtherism, weather its some of his comments about women over the course of the campaign. I could go on and on listing all night. The point is when he gets these moments and wants to say to people wait second i really sincerely want to be the president of all americans, he first has to step in and clean up for all the other things he said. If i could just make one more point. If any president would have to come out much quicker, immediately, and say where they are and set the moral tone for the situation. But a president who starts so far behind the starting line really had to do that. And i dont think President Trump did that over the last week and a half. I want to hear from brewnel now. How do you explain the jekyll and hyde performance that chaos happened . Should black republicans support him . Well, first god bless you and god bless america. What ill tell you is what you heard last night im a democrat and i voted for donald trump. What you heard was our president just basically letting the supporters know i am not a racist. Hes letting the country know im not a racist. I stepped into this because i want to help everybody. What you saw was not a robot or some characterture of what people think a president should be. What President Trump does, hes authentic. He may not be as eloquent as other president s as we would like. But he speaks plain. And a lot of Trump Supporters and americans want to be spoken to plainly. Today him saying we all bleed the same blood, were all americans, i think he needs to stay there because there are so Many Americans out here who are hurting who just really want to know they are cared about. And if the president stays on message letting everyone know theyre involved, that they can participate, i think hell do great. Well see wonders with him. But thats all well and good and not to be condescending, i really dont want to but he hasnt done anything that you said. He has not stayed on message. He was go on. I mean. To your point. He hasnt stayed on message, which is a part of the problem. Monday when the president clarified his remarks to greater specificity, a lot of people applauded, including democrats. Then we saw what occurred tuesday at the press conference which was supposed to be about infrastructure. It did not pan out very well. Then we saw the president s remarks in front of troops where at the beginning of that speech he talked about the u. S. He talked about the u. S. Compounded of different people all over the world. That was appropriate and the very next day we saw the president at the rally. And i dont think his tone was the right tone. I think lot of the rhetoric i get it. He was at a rally. He wants to rally his base. Speaking plain doesnt mean speak down and give you an excuse for being ignorant. It does not, don. And the point i was going to make is, for a lot of americans particularly minority americans are saying you clarified the remarks, then the next day you came out with things that there insulting or not appropriate. Then the next day a more disciplined version of you, then the day after a not disciplined version of you. Which version are people supposed to believe . I think thats part of the problem. If i may respond. Go ahead. What i would say is thats the thing im talking about. Our president is authentic. Hes not a robot. Hes not thought up. Hes showing us who he is. Its not about being robotic. Every president is real. Not about being robotic. Its about authenticity and if you believe what you believe, it doesnt matter if youre reading from a script or extemporaneously, people will believe it. And the issue is that a lot of people arent believing what he says and i would lover for the president to give a great speech on race in america so we could move on. Because you are a republican, right . Hes the leader of my party. But i cannot in good faith or good conscious defend things that most people in our community by and large believe are insulting to minorities. You set me up to this. Because this is an article by buzzfeed. Black republicans despair over trumps response to charlottesville. In it, he writes what emerged from nearly a dozen black republicans was a keen sense of the division between these republicans and a more protrump wing. Many are dismayed that someone hasnt been able to effectively tell him what hes doing is detrimental and offensive to black americans. These sources often mean the highest ranking black white house staffer, omarosa the highestranking black white house staffer. And they feel shes not sensitive to their interests. I think theyre being kind in their words there. Is the president getting any good advice in his relationship with the black community . Joseph . I dont believe he could be getting good advice. We saw what happened on tuesday. We saw what happened at the rally in phoenix. I dont think its posable to think he was getting good advice. I think that the problem we face is the lack of consistency. This notion where apparently if someone spitz in your face and hands you a napkin, youre supposed to say thank you to them. I dont think thats a realistic approach. I think some of the problems we have right now is that we focus on the things we dont like about what donald trump has said and dont necessarily focus on things other people in america do here. Donald trump said we cant change history, but we can learn from it. I think thats a powerful message that resonates with a lot of americans. What President Trump does not seem to understand and what america has been redsent to accept is that they were not trying to preserve our right, they were trying to implore us to relive it. When you hear people talking about blood and soil, hear people talking about jews will not replace us. The one thing we did not hear was save robert e. Lee. What shermichael is talking about, yes, there is authenticity in what he says and the perception for a lot of americans who have been on the searing end of prejudice is we have a situation where people were beaten, people were malled and again giving aid and comfort to something, as he tries to describe it in phoenix, does not seem reflected in this statement. Some black republicans have stepped away from the president. Others have been speaking out more forcefully. Let me play this before we talk any further. This is tim scott. Previously an ally of this president. Heres what he said last week. Im not going to defend the indefensible. What we want to see from our president is clarity and moral authority. That moral authoritys compromised when tuesday happened. David, as the president continues to defend his remarks, change his story about charlottesville, will he continue to lose more support and especially among africanamericans, not that he had had that much . A couple of things about senator scott. Hes somebody who came out of the tea party era. But as hes progressed has moved more towards main line republicanism and thats why hes speaking from that platform and saying look, theres a way to address situations as a National Leader with moral authority. In terms of black people moving away from President Trump, i think his biggest problem is that he started with such a deficit on these issues. There is a discussion to be had had. Don, i know youre from baton rouge. Im in north carolina. We have had these discussions about confederate monuments, flags. Theres a way to have a nuanced discussion about history but President Trump, because he has not established himself as someone with credibility on issues of race over the last two years is not the person to lead that conversation. If two saturdays ago he had come out that day, talked about the death of heather heyer, what he wanted to see happen in charlottesville sincerely, not with his arms folded looking like he was reading a hostage statement, he could have started to lead the dialogue you cannot have that conversation when you have people saying they are trying to take away our culture. Whos they . Whos our . And you have to be aware of the history of those monuments and they were erected during the Civil Rights Movement when blacks were starting to gain influence and fairness in society. They didnt come up right after the civil war. You have to know the history. You have to know the Confederate Flag is not a symbol of white pride or the south, its a symbol of hate. But go on, brunell. Thank you so much. What i would say is i think each and everyone of us on this panel deep down in our hearts really want to see the president do well. I think all americans want to see him do well, step up. I also believe African Americans specifically want to see action and i believe we all have heard so much talking through the decades of people saying what theyre going to do in our community. And donald trump said i have a new deal with black people. I want to put billions into the inner cities and i believe once that money starts hitting our inner cities vocational programs, jobs, economics and improvement, i dont believe donald trump will have to do too much talking. The actions is actions are what the people want. So, where are we at . Hold on. Whoa, whoa. Actions are what make a difference. So his actions in the past dont matter . His actions on discrimination, his words about the central park 5 being the leader of birtherism, those actions dont matter but hold on. But the actions he will possibly make in the future are more important than concretely what hes already said and already has done or not done . What ill tell you is this the bible says he who is without sin casts the first stone. We all know that. What does this have to do with this . What does this have to do with this . Nobodys perfect. Let me finish my thought. Again the president s not perfect. There have been some missteps im sure. But i believe that in my heart i know hes not a racist i wouldnt put my voice behind this. Tell me. Whoa. How do you know hes not a racist . Im a black woman from the west side of chicago. Theres no way im going to put my mouth on a president im not talking about you putting your mouth on the president. How do you know hes not racist . I havent heard anything come from him as far as im concerned from his speeches, as a candidate, as well as him being president that indicate he has a problem with africanamericans at all. I havent heard one thing like that. You said the central park 5. I understand thats a touchy issue in our community. And theyre saying he didnt believe they were innocent. But there are people that dont believe o. J. Simpson is innocent. They did not run for president of the United States, they did not take up ads in newspapers people still think o. J. Simpson is guilty. Lets not go down the o. J. Joseph, go ahead. We need this president to be successful. If youre an american you need the president of the United States to be successful. Thats a fact. Im a republican. I wish we could have a conversation and talk about tax reform and health care and the issues that we greatly need to get fixed in this country that republicans and americans desperately need to address. But the fact remains again. In my family forgiveness requires acknowledgment and love requires accountability. You can love him and still hold him accountable. You can want him to be successful and say youre making mistakes and to your point, yes, mistakes were made but the president himself has not acknowledged those mistakes and so when we see what happened in phoenix, last night. For all the good things that hes said i think hes gotten a bad rap for not repeating the good things he had said. Because we would be talking about how hes still in that train of thought. So, i think thats a little unfair. But the missing component is what is implied when he omits that about the rest of us . Because it implies again that the pain is not real, that these other individuals who may have been offended by the fact that the president of the United States did not stand up for them, they are crazy. They are somehow making up these things. Ultimately, yes, we want the president to be successful. But again you cannot expect there to be conversation about the agenda. But again, you cant there to be a conversation about the agenda when the president keeps stepping in the mud. And there has to be a level of consistency. We dont just judge leaders offer individual moments in time. We judge them in their entirety. And burnell brought up investing in inner cities. However, is it not legitimate to beg the question where is the plan for that idea . We know the administration wants to make a lot of drastic cuts. I havent seen anything that indicates we will see billions invested in inner cities. There are a lot of poor africanamericans, just as there are poor whites and hispanics. People who need jobs, have children that are going to schools, institutions where they dont have updated resources, believe it or not, or Transportation Systems that are reliable, Health Care Systems that have failed them. So if were going to talk from policy perspective of what its going to taking to address the needs and concerns of all people in this country, we have to first show people that we respect them, that we respect and understand the legitimacy of their critiques, whether we agree with them or not. Im an africanamerican. Someone may hurl a comment at someone whos jewish or muslim, just because im not jewish or muslim, does that not mean that i care . Thats critically important, particularly when youre a leader. Quick point about republicanism. Heres the thing. Were being whip sawed partly because President Trump is a republican president who campaigned to working class black people and to working class white people in a way that republicans havent campaigned before. He didnt say pull up your boot straps and work for opportunity in this country. He said for two years im going to take care of you. Im going to pump billions into rural areas and inner cities. Thats a different way of campaigning. And its part of the tension between him and his party and the more than one camp of africanamerican republicans right now. White supremacist Chris Cantwell who organized the charlottesville rally has turned himself into police. Hes in jail. You remember him. What do you think this means for the next altright protest . I say its going to be really tough to top but were up to the challenge. Why . Tough to top . I mean someone died. I think a lot more people are going to die before were done here, frankly. Thats what the violence in charlottesville was really all about. Not confederate statues, not confederate statues. Not an attack on what donald trump calls our culture. When we come back, its all about its all just a diversionary tactic, was it and is it working . Booking a flight at the last minute doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. Hey, im the internet i know a bunch of people who would love that. The internet loves what youre doing. So build a better website in under an hour with. Gocentral from godaddy. The internet is waiting. Start for free today at godaddy. Scuse me. Mind if i sit here . Not if you want your phone to work. Let me guess, you cant livestream your lobster roll. 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A debate thats expanded to include other parts of the country, including this statue of Christopher Columbus in columbus circle, named after the italian explorer. Mayor de blasio says after the violent events, new york city will conduct a 90day review of all symbols of hate on city property. So what i want to talk about now are the statues and monuments. Are they an important issue . Is it Political Correctness run amuck . Joining me is ben shapiro. I invited you back to have a broader conversation about this. This whole idea of freedom of speech and this conversation is very important to me. Im glad to have you on to talk about it. So what started out as a neonazi murder in charlottesville exploded into a discussion about the removal of confederate statues. Have we gotten away from the point of what happened in charlottesville, what it was really about . It seems to me we clearly have. And that was the point of them seizing on an issue. They know there is a broad c consensus of not moving the statues. There was a poll that came out showing 50 americans they tried to broaden out their appeal that way and a lot of the folks on the left fell for it and they want have to the discussion anyway. They saw the opportunity to have this discussion but it seems like a misdirection. The issue in charlottesville is white supremacy, not whether people think statues should come down or stay up. 50 of the population doesnt want to keep them up. This is from cup. She said to distract from his indefensible moral equivalencies between neonazis and charlottesville and the activists who were there to protest them, trump dared liberals to go down the rabbit hole of Political Correctness. Its fertile ground. Is s. E. Right . They definitely fell for, whether he plans it or not, a trap for the left. He said youre going to go after statues of George Washington or Christopher Columbus and now youre seeing that actually happen on the left, the most obvious stupid case is the banning of this reporter from espn from covering an event at university of virginia. The Political Correctness of the left is actually driving people into trumps arms. Even though trumps initial response to charlottesville and his tuesday response to charlottesville is entirely wrong. I think one thing trump has just benefitted from the fact that the left is constantly reacting to everything he says and i think thats a negative. Even what he did last night in going after the media because they reacted instead of doing objective analysis, they jump to extraordinary critiques of his Mental Health and talking about how he was crazy and morally bereft. It plays to his crowd. They think that media is out to get him. His crowd think they have a particular amnesty personally. Anything they do is going to exacerbate that. Just two things. I want to get it correct. Espn is responding and they didnt ban him. They asked him and he picked something closer to his family. They said they didnt ban him and they were looking out for his own interest. Thats their response. I had to put that out there just to get it right. But lets play what the president said last night because you mention the media and the medias response but lets play it. Theyre trying to take away our culture. Theyre trying to take away our history and our weak leaders, they do it overnight. These things have been there for 150 years, 100 years. You go back to a university and its gone. Weak, weak people. So he said that the media is trying to do that. The media is simply responding to people there protesting and to the story of the statues being taken down. The media hasnt called for the statues to be taken down. So i dont understand when he says the media is trying to take away your culture. I do think one of the conservative critiques of the media is that the media have a political agenda and they hide behind this petina of objectivety. To push forward the agenda. You were very passionate about the statements about the media last night, and there is a reason for that. The comments last night but a lot of it goes to what his base thinks, which is that you have an anmous for his agenda and you personally want to see these confederate statues come down. Is that true . I lived in the south for a long time. To tell you the truth i knew the statues were there. I was offended by the statues. Whether they should come down, i would leave it up to the individuals. But i do think theyre insulting to people. Would you want to see a statue of hitler as a jew . I understand your point of view. The point is that you have a point of view. We shouldnt pretend theres a fake objectivity. To get people to understand as a jewish person you would not want to go to a hitler high school. Well, that same effect, African Americans, that has robert e. Lee as the same effect on africanamericans and so does the Confederate Flag. I think we have to be understanding of each other. Its not that i have an agenda against the president. Im simply speaking the truth as i see it. And i totally understand that but what his people are hearing that you do have an agenda in terms of what you think. You have a clear point of view on that. But the implication is that you are an objective reporter whos pommel gating a point of view. You said openly you dont think your point of view is biassed. But what i said about the president had nothing to do with statues. I was talking about his behavior on stage. Again, totally understood but the way it read is that you have a personal anmous towards the president. Whether its true or not, thats the way a lot of his followers are going to take it. I have aminous against a guest on the show or someone in the street who has ignorance of history. You need to be able to defend yourself and to defend yourself, to have a right, clear perspective you need know history and be educated about it and in many cases the people fighting for the issues do not. And that means the people who want to take the statues down and those that do not. But stick with me. We have a whole lot to talk about. When we come back, President Trump says he wants to unite the country, so why is he lashing out . They have businesses to run they have passions to pursue how do they avoid trips to the post office . Stamps. Com mail letters ship packages all the services of the post office right on your computer get a 4 week trial plus 100 in extras including postage and a digital scale go to stamps. Com try and never go to the post office again they save us from getting lost, getting hungry, and getting tired of places like this. Phones changed everything shouldnt the way pay for them change too . Introducing xfinity mobile. Where you can pay for data by the gig, and share it across all of your lines. No one else lets you do that. See how much you can save when you pay by the gig. Xfinity mobile. Its a new kind of network designed to save you money. Call, visit, or go to xfinitymobile. Com. President trump took the stage in reno today and said hes all about unity but sure didnt sound like a unifier in his rant last night. Ben shapiro is back with me. Joining us now talk radio host john fredrics and jason candor. Welcome to the panel. Im going to start with you. President trump says he wants to unite our country but then he says stuff like this. Watch this. I always hear about the elite. You know the elite . I went to better schools than they did. I was a better student than they were. I live in a bigger, more beautiful apartment and i live in the white house, too, which is really great. I think you know what . I think were the elites. Theyre not the elites. So the point is, and i didnt want to bore you because you understand where im coming from, but the point is that those were three different, two statements in one news conference. The words were perfect. Jason, its a fascinating message. Really think about it. From a new york billionaire who lives in a tower to a base of supporters he calls the forgotten americans and its very powerful and they love it. How did you respond to that . Well, donald trump is a man who was born rich believing hes a victim. Hes a man who looks at what happened in charlottesville, sees a woman being murdered and said to himself im the victim here. So everything about him is sort of casting himself in a victim mode and often i think thats because he believes often rightfully that people in america wont blame the victim. And so when hes nautd doing a good job and when the media reports what hes doing. Hes not doing a good job, he figures hell cast himself as the victim. Its his way of avoiding responsibility. Its sort of like a movie critic who decides to make a movie and it turns out its really bad and thats because you cant make a movie by criticizing people, just like you cant lead a country by complaining all the time. How do you go, john, from i love the uneducated to we are the elites . By the way i know some wealthy people. They dont talk about people peep who are really wealthy dont talk about how much money they have and people who are really smart dont talk about how smart they are. But go on. I guess jason is knowing what dnald trump thinks in his own psyche. You take his style and you get all caught up and your panties get in a wad. Hes having fun last night talking to his base, the people who helped elect him president , that dont trust the media, that dont trust what you guys say and dont trust the elites in washington. So what he was saying is they want to tell us what to do. They want to run our life. Theyve sold our jobs out. Im going to unify our country at the end of the day were the elite because we really understand whats going on. Thats what he was saying last night. Its laughable. And why you guys are going to lose again. Its not you. Dont put me in the category. Im not a democrat so dont put me in that category and number two listen. Maybe you wear panties. I dont. So if your panties get in a wad, thats your business. Have a sense of humor. Theres no sense of humor if you are a person if youre a member of the media and saying you dont love america and you may be a victim of violence, thats not funny. If youre a transgender person who has served this country with honor and distinction and hes thinking about kicking you out of the military, theres nothing funny about that. No, no, no. Yes, i am being fair. Yes, i am. John, let me finish. If youre the president of the United States at every single moment what comes out of your mouth matters to every Single Person in this country and it is not funny when you making fun of people and possibly putting people in harms way of violence. Actually possible for somebody to be humorous and do a decent job at the same time. Its not like the president of the United States can be charming but if he is, he has to be really bad at being president. He could actually do both things. Hes just not. The it first rule of comedy is it has to be funny. It wasnt funny. It wasnt funny to you. Hes talking to his base. He has two audiences. One is the international people, americans at large and the media. He was at a Campaign Rally last night talking to his base after he had a disastrous day on monday with his base where he went back on his words. Was that funny . No, it isnt. But he made a serious speech. Im telling you on monday, was infuriated by that. Then he goes out and throws red meat. This is politics. Im telling you donald is going to win again because the great unifier is jobs, wages go up, economic prosperity, 3 growth. Hes going to get elected again. Ben, please. What you saw in his rally last night was that President Trump is great at two things. The art of opposition and trolling. So hes really good at finding something that all republicans dislike, which is the media. We dont like cnn, we dont like msnbc. And so he takes that and says unify around this. You cant unify around my policy. You may not like mcconnell, ryan but we all dislike the media and then he says some things are funny and then outrages thing about media knowing theyre going to put it up the richter scale. Shouldnt he be truthful . He wasnt. Of course. My advice is turn down the emotion down to one and turn the Fact Checking up to ten. Because whats happened is the amount of Fact Checking has taken second place to the offense people in the media are taking at his words. And i think the problem is the American People have to know is the media are trying to defend them from untruth, not from insults. And a lot of people are going to think this is a rock em sock em robots. Im glad youve come on cnn twice even though you dont like us. No, i love you, don. Youre the best. I appreciate that. Coming up, a protest that started last year when Colin Kaepernick refused to stand for the National Anthem is rally supporters outside the head quarters. This school year, its okay for your kto struggle. Ared. Theyre learning resilience, and tenacity. Heres to the moms who show their kids that every step even a misstep is a step forward. Quarterback, Colin Kaepernick refused to stand during the National Anthem. As he protested racism and police brutality. The protest is spreading in the nfl but kaepernick is out of a job. Today they gathered to support him outside nfl headquarters in new york. There it is right there. Ben ferguson and symone sanders, they are both here. We got a lot to talk about. So dont try to hog everything. Symone. Shes talking to you. Symone, you were at this rally in support of Colin Kaepernick. So what did you want to accomplish . So i was one of the co hosts of the rally tonight. I along with mark thompson, we served as the cohosts, the mcs of the rally and today the rally was really about holding it was about a couple things. So one asking the nfl saying its time for them to act. We believe the nfl has been complicit in the ostization of collin kaepernick. By staying silent in this moment, they are in fact complicit. We have said we the united, we stand, coalition, which is a coalition of various individual groups, people like tamika malory, mark thompson, a very large widespread coalition of people, including the naacp are literally asking the nfl to step in here, hold themselves accountable. We believe Colin Kaepernick should be on a team but there are remedies they need to take. So you have been an outspoken critic of athletes kneeling. I have no problem with the protest. I think thats what makes this country great and you have a right to do it. The problem with Colin Kaepernick is one, hes not as good as he used to be and two, they want to win Football Games and if hes looked a at a bigger liability than an asset and not as coachable as he used to be. How many players close to him have come out and supported him . Theres not a lot. Theres lot of people who think he didnt play as hard. I think if theres enough owners out there that need to win games, that if they truly believe he was a bigger asset than a liability, they would hire him. You know this, ben, who have had had much bigger issues and problems. But they were coachable and wanted win. Thats one of the problems with the nfl. Look at the dallas cowboys. You have multiple people on that team that have abused women. You have people that have been convicted of serious crimes. But when they walk in the locker room, theyre Football Players and theyre coachable and i think the nfl does have to look at this issue and say where is the happy medium on this . Coaches will do anything hes getting a raw deal. While the rally was happening, hank aaron came out today in support of Colin Kaepernick saying literally i know the National Football league is saying Colin Kaepernick is not being blackballed but the facts and optics speak for themselves. I want to be clear. I realize the nfl cannot put him on a team today. But one, there is not an express advocacy policy for the National Football league. The wnba has one. The National Baseball league has one. The nfl does not have an express advocacy policy on the books currently. I dont know if that would do anything for Colin Kaepernick. Let me say this. Let me get this in and get your response. This is spike lee. He was on with anderson earlier. Go in the dictionary. The word might be collusion. I would like to say this, what you see now, we have to study history. This is not the first time thats happened to africanamerican athletes that have stood up. Jo jack johnson. Heavyweight champion. Around the white women, boom, out. 68 olympics, mexico. John carlos, black, raised fist. Muhammad ali, refuses to be inducted. He listed the names of the owners who have done nated to trump and the conservatives that have a problem with this. Uncle spike speaks the truth. I have nothing to say against spike lee here. The nfl has no soul. They allow the worst people to play their game. If there was a coach that thought kaepernick was the bigger asset, they would hire him. They cover up video when a guy punches out his girlfriend. I got to go. You cant. Well do it later. Well be right back. Tais really quite simple. 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Start for free today at godaddy. It became a worldwide obsession, a child caught in the middle of a custody battle that stretched between two nations. Cnn films has the story behind Elian Gonzalez and his dramatic journey from the United States to cuba. Joining me now is tim golden, the director of the film elian. I want to put this up. When people think of Elian Gonzalez, they think of this iconic image, Pulitzer Prize winning photograph, when federal agents came in to take custody of Elian Gonzalez. Tell me about the moment and why you decided to do the film now. It was really an extraordinary indelible image that allen diaz took for the associated press. But it was a time, it was a story that riveted people, not only in florida, but all around the country. And i had covered it at the time as a journalist, and always felt like there was something deeper there. And going back to it now, with the passage of time, we really saw that it had been a defining moment in the cuban story, in the story of Fidel Castros revolution, and cubans american politics in the United States. It was an emotional story for a lot of people. Tensions between the u. S. And cuba, it was emotion, there was drama. This was a then 21yearold cousin talking about him being taken into federal custody. Watch this. Think about it. If you had your house trashed and people come in with guns, and you dont even know who they are because they didnt tell us who they are. They just said, give me that boy give us that boy i said, ill give you the boy. I stood in front of those machine guns and i said, i said, please, dont do this to this boy. Theres kids in this house. Dont do this. Ill give you the boy, but please, dont let them see this. Emotional. You wrote the defining piece for the times magazine, talking about the family, the divide between the family and the father, between cuba and the u. S. And that was marislias the cousin of elian. Who, you know, just like elian was this irresistible symbol that both sides grabbed on to, the cubanamericans, the symbol of the suffering of the cuban people, that his mother had to take him on the rickety boat in the florida straits, and the castro government whom he became a symbol to which the lengths to which the exiles would go to win their argument. Marisleysis was this extraordinary figure who was just plantive and wounded in the loss of the boy afterward. That loss really did kind of turn cubanamerican politics. It resonated with a lot of people. Cubanamericans down in miami, a big population down in miami. I want you to watch this clip. This is a clip from the documentary, elians graduation. Hes 23 now, right. Yes. Is he a celebrity . Absolutely. Hes grown up aware of that . How could he not . You know. One of the Amazing Things about his life is that he has sort of been experiencing what happened to him in the memories of all the people who are around him, right . He was only 6 years old. But i think the way hes grown up, hes been obviously the subject of kind of an intense political education by the revolution. How has it affected him . Well, i mean, the extraordinary thing is, hes kind of seems whole. Hes obviously deeply committed to the revolution. Hes kind of a great defender of the communist system at a time when young cubans are generally, i think, dissatisfied, or wondering what their future is going to hold. But hes also had the love of the family that has clearly surrounded him. And i think part of the indoctrination is that hes been told that the cuban people are his wider family and have embraced him. I think its all sort of fit together and hes come out the other side. Tim golden, thank you. Beautiful shot. Thank you so much. Thank you. Elian airs tomorrow night at 10 00 eastern. Thats it for us tonight. Thank you so much for watching. It is time to heal the wounds that divide us and to seek a new unity based on the common values that unite us. Dr. Jekyll and mr. Trump. Less than 24 hours after an angry rant in arizona, back on prompter, on message. Is there any chance hell stay there . If the president wants to heal wounds, he could start with his Senate Majority leader. The discord with Mitch Mcconnell is threatening to derail the republican agendas. Can they get on