Go on, bakari. They lied already. And ana has a good point. My question to scott is, lets play the what if game. An what if this was barack obama or Hillary Clinton . You would be hollering from high heaven how this was treason and ready to start impeachment hearings. Because they have an r beside his name which is a problem in the country today, youre willing to give them excuses. George bush said it best, this is soft bigotry of low expectations. Strip the gop from it and lets make it an average, ordinary american, period. And what donald trump is doing, what donald trump jr. Is doing, what ivanka is doing, what the family is doing, Paul Manafort, michael flynn, the list goes on and on and on. Its unethical at best, treasonous at worst and they sold the United States down stream. Whether or not they knew it, ask the question that we asked nixon, when did the president know it. Thats the question. Kevin madden, im going let you respond to that. Last word. No, i think bakari has some passion behind this. I think its indicative of just how i think passionate so many of the president s opponents feel. But you know, clearly i side with scott, as esaid earlier, which is the white house clearly has a challenge on their hands when it comes to changing peoples minds about this, and the drip, drip, drip of information is going to continue to be a challenge. They have to get out in front of it and tell their story better. Kevin, you and i have been working together for a long time. I remember working on the Obama Campaign when we were working for cnn and covering this. Can you imagine what republicans would be saying to bakaris point if this was Hillary Clinton or barack obama and not necessarily what the news would be reporting, but what the republicans would say someone like Scott Jennings or other republican supporters. What do you think they would be saying if the shoe was on the other foot about this situation. No, absolutely. What we have seen both on both sides. The partisan tribalism on both sides at its zenith. I would argue to bakari, i worked for the candidate who said that our number one geopolitical foe was russia. He got laughed at. We were mocked. Youre right. Those same candidates right. I just wish there were more bakaris out there admitting we were right and theyre looking hypocritical now. Guys, let me tell you this. If it had been john podesta and Chelsea Clinton doing it, i would be saying exactly the same thing that i am saying today. The first thing we have to do is defend the democracy and the integrity of our elections. Shiite partisanship down. Scott, im three minutes over on this segment. I agree with ana. I have said from the beginning, the russians tried to meddle in the election. Im not sure we know they needed a colluding partner to do it. Thats why the investigations exist. I believe the russians clearly the Intelligence Community believes they tried to meddle in the election. Thats what the purpose of these investigations is to find out what happened. The fact that people are saying they want to talk to the committees and the investigation bodies is a good thing. You need to tell that to the white house though. He was the good news for little boy trump. He can get pardoned. Jared kushner wants to talk to the investigators. Jared kushner is not the president. I dont see an unwillingness to cooperate which i think is important. Its easy to cooperate after you lie. Thank you all. I appreciate it. See you next time. This is our breaking news tonight. A report donald trump jr. Was told in an email last year that the russian government was trying to help the Trump Campaign according to the New York Times. The email reportedly sent by the man who reportedly helped set up a meeting between trump jr. And a russian lawyer who might have information about Hillary Clinton. What will tonights breaking news mean for the fastmoving russia investigation . Were going to talk about all of that. Lets get right to senior political analyst mark preston, political commentator mike shields, former chief of staff to Reince Priebus at the rnc, and max boot, a senior fellow at the council on Foreign Relations and the author of invisible armies. So much to discuss. Bombshell news tonight from the New York Times. Heres part of what they are reporting about this meeting between a russian lawyer and donald trump jr. , Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort and a russian attorney. Before arranging a meeting with the kremlin connected russian lawyer he believed would offer him compromising information about Hillary Clinton, donald trump jr. Was informed in an email the material was part of a russian government effort to aid his fathers candidate sid according to three people with knowledge of the email. What does this mean for the investigations into the Trump Campaign for possible collusion with the russian government . Well, a couple things. One you said, what will we be focusing on . We will not be focusing on issues here in washington, d. C. Want to focus on health care and tax reform and infrastructure, what have you. What it does do for the investigation though, it gives another jolt in the arm for those who believe that trump or some of his associates and advisers did do some business with the russians or tried to do business with the russians to try to affect the election. We dont know that to be true and have to be very careful about that. Having said that, this is yet another selfinflicted wound and i think thats very important for viewers to know. This was the Trump White House. This was trumps own son who has put him in this position at this point in his presidency. And when it really comes down to it, don, is that republicans here in washington right now, not even democrats are extremely frustrated because they dont want to be asked tomorrow when they all return to washington and walk the halls of congress what they think should happen given this latest bombshell. Mike, i want to bring you in here. Let me ask you what you make of the reporting before i read the statements from donald trump. The president , and donald trump jr. Yeah, first of all, the reason we know about this is because of the leak. A leak from an investigation thats going on looking into this, what that tells me if they thought there was something illegal going on here, they wouldnt be leaking it to the New York Times. They would take it to a judge. We dont know who the source is, mike. Right. Exactly. Its a leak of an investigation. That doesnt help an investigation to get in the New York Times. If they thought something had happened here. You dont know if its from the investigation. It could be from a person in the white house. Okay. Its someone who is familiar with the investigation. Said it came through the investigation. The second thing i take you back to is june of last year. There was a huge scandal going on with the Clinton Foundation how they were selling access in speeches. If someone comes to the campaign and says i might know something about that, its not unusual for someone to take a meeting say hey i want to find out what you were talking about. Obviously they werent vetted correctly. I think scott and kevin were both right in the last statement that the campaign made mistakes when it came to vetting things. Theres a lot of things that sort of slip through the radar. The speaker of the house and a senator who didnt remember meeting with a Russian Ambassador and later remembered they met with him. The one thing i will say, i sort of disagreed with mark that now were talking about russia because of this latest thing. My guess is the press would have been focused on russia even if this hadnt happened. Thats the troubling tenor of the way the coverage of all this happens. I want to make something clear here. The article from what i have read, it says nothing about this coming from the investigation. It just, it says people with knowledge of the email. Go ahead, max. You know, the comments of mike shields i think underline why after a lifetime as a republican after serving as a senior Foreign Policy adviser in three republican campaigns i am no longer a republican. I am disgusted with the way the Republican Party is behaving. What we are seeing is that donald trump puts his own selfinterests over the interests of the United States. You saw that just a few days ago in hamburg where he refused to press Vladimir Putin on his meddling in the u. S. Election. In fact, he tried to explain and excuse it away, refusing to believe what the u. S. Intelligence community has said, and he even cooked up this cockamamy scheme to engage in socalled cooperation with russia on cyberissues, which is the like the fox guarding the hen house. Republicans are not outraged. Theyre trying to make excuses for the white house and donald trump even when we see evidence of collusion come into clear view with this jaw dropping meeting that don junior, Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort, the high command of the Trump Campaign. Theyre meeting with a russian leader connected to the kremlin to get dirt on Hillary Clinton and still republicans are making excuses for this. Its time to come clean. Its time to put the interests of the country over the interests of the Republican Party. Do you want to respond to that, mike . You just said evidence of collusion. There is no evidence of collusion. People have been looking read the New York Times pick up the New York Times. I did read the New York Times. I read all three articles. Theres three articles which is where i got the other statement i had. Was from one of the previous articles about this. I did read it. Theres no evidence. If there was evidence of collusion, thin we would have a different story here. This would be something about a legal case. There is something called an investigation right. Person in question. Bob mueller was appointed about two months ago. The notion that this case should have been concluded by now is ridiculous. The watergate investigation took over a year. We shouldnt have the bob mueller because of people like reach conclusions. You decided what was guilty. People like me . Yes. Im reacting to the evidence, sir. I dont know what youre reacting except youre biased in favor of donald trump. What im saying you just said you had bias against donald trump. No. I was a lifelong republican. I spent 30 years as a republican, and i quit the Republican Party in disgust when donald trump got elected because i knew morally complicit in the outrageous conduct of donald trump. And youre an example of that moral complicity right now. Okay. Look, the fact of the matter is donald trump jr. Said he would cooperate. Hes going to cooperate if asked to do that. Hes got to get his story straight first because he keeps changing his story. Youre making my point which is youre so angry about in that you indict everybody. Youre right. I am angry when i see i am angry when i see an american president you know, i think everybody should be angry when they see an american president , a republican who seems to be pursuing a russia first policy who seems to be pursuing the interests of Vladimir Putin over the interests of nato, the u. S. And our allies. Really . Was he pursuing that interest when he added montenegro to nato or when he reinforced article 5, the number one thing Vladimir Putin doesnt want to do, helping the russians out when we bombed syria in direct controversy of what i would referred you to i would refer you to his conduct in europe just a couple of days ago when he refused to accept the when warsaw reaffirming article 5. One at a time. If you read what he said in warsaw, he said russia participated in destabilizing activity. But when he actually met with Vladimir Putin for more than two hours, he came out of that and he basically seemed to accept putins ridiculous denials of meddling in the u. S. Election. And right now donald trump and the white house are trying to water down a strong sanctions bill that the senate has passed against russia. Theyre essentially protecting russian interests. Donald trump shows a lot more interest in this imaginary phony scandal claiming there are millions of illegal votes cast for which there is not an iota of evidence. He has appointed a commission to look into that. He has no interest in finding out anything what putin did to subvert the american electoral process which is a fact, which is the unanimous conclusion of the u. S. Intelligence community. Mark preston, i need to get you in here. To maxs point where he says don junior needs to get his story straight, this is the third statement. You can put up the statement tonight. Theres a third statement from donald trump jr. Tonight. Hes tweeted a number of times from his new lawyer where he basically says he did nothing wrong. That he didnt know what the meeting was about. He didnt know what it would turn out to be, if the information was reliable and on and on and on. It does appear that theres a certain degree of denial and then all of a sudden, the evidence a reported evidence comes out from the New York Times and other news sources and then theres an admission and then the story changes. It appears to be a pattern of sorts. It certainly does. Let me try to thread the needle between max and mike right there because that was a fascinating discussion. Its amazing. I do believe and maybe im wrong max is probably still a republican at heart but is extremely frustrated by donald trump as the president and the leader of the Republican Party. That in itself is fascinating. We have to be judicious in how we use our words, collusion, illegal because we dont necessarily know. On the other side of that coin is that the supporters of donald trump like to go out and obfuscate the facts. They like to try to confuse the issue. Theyll talk about Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation and thats fine. Were not talking Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. Were talking about the leader of the free world and the commander in chief. Were talking about the president of the United States. To the point of changing stories, weve seen this. When you talk about a pattern, we saw michael flynn, the fired National Security adviser was not necessarily truthful in what his relations were or his discussions were with the Russian Ambassador. We also saw that Jared Kushner had had to change or at least amend his forms to get his top secret clearance. We also saw the attorney general, jeff sessions, during his confirmation hearing not reveal that he himself had met with the Russian Ambassador. They all have answers or excuses for doing so. But you have to wonder when you see all this smoke, what i dont understand is why people get upset when we look for the fire. I have to say the response from the president s team tonight is that asked for reaction in the New York Times report, mark corallo, spokesman for president trumps outside legal team reiterated their earlier statement and said the president was not aware and did not attend the meeting. Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. When we come back, much more on breaking news. Donald trump jr. Reportedly told in an email last year that the russian government was trying to help his Fathers Campaign. Whats next in the russia investigation . You wont see these folks they have businesses to run. They have passions to pursue. How do they avoid trips to the post office . Stamps. Com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. Get a 4 week trial, plus 100 in extras including postage and a digital scale. Go to stamps. Com tv and never go to the post office again. Breaking news tonight, donald trump jr. Reportedly told in an email last year that the russian government was trying to help his Fathers Campaign according to New York Times. Here to discuss, columnist nicholas kristof. What is your reaction to this . Don, this is huge. I mean the last few days have been enormous with the revelation of the russian lawyer after the Trump Campaign denied eight times that such a thing happened. But now tonight, find out that trump, that don trump junior knew that this was a russian government effort to damage Hillary Clinton and thus ipso facto interfere in the u. S. Election and then to embrace it to go ahead with the meeting, the closest parallel i can think of is that in year 2000, the Gore Campaign received george w. Bush materials and what did they do . They immediately called the fbi. This is material that is actually coming from an adversary power attempting to affect the outcome of the election. What do you do . You call in two of the most senior aides and you see what you can get out of them . So to your point then, and look, im not saying this but ive had republican after republican after republican come on, except for the staunch trump defenders who are saying come on, everyone. Max boot max is a republican. And he was just blowing up at this because i think there are an awful lot of republicans of integrity who are aghast, a, at the way trump has been soft on russia and b, at these indications that something incredibly untoward was going on with russia. And i mean, what this also shows this meeting is for the first time it gives an indication of what collusion would have looked like that we know the russiian side was interested in what don trump junior called adoptions, in other words the sanctions under the magnitsky act. It wanted an end to those. We know the Trump Campaign was projecting its interests in getting damaging material on Hillary Clinton. Each side was signaling to the other what it wanted and they went ahead. Not only has it been, there was a denial or whatever the explanation was from donald trump jr. When the story broke in the times this weekend. There were two of them and then he tweeted about it and theres another response tonight. I want to make sure i have this right. This is july of 2016. He was on, donald trump jr. , with jake tapper. And asked, jake asked him to respond to Hillary Clinton campaigns manager robbie mook saying the russians were behind the dnc hack and leaking of information again. This interview was right after that meeting took place with the russian lawyer. Watch this. Well, it just goes to show you their exact moral compass. Theyll say anything to be able to win this. This is time and time again, lie after lie. Its disgusting. Its so phony. I watched them bumble through the interview. I was able to hear it on audio a little bit. I cant think of bigger lies. That goes to show you what the dnc and the clinton camp will do. They will lie and do anything to win. So if these reports are true go on. This is you could not find anything more duplicitous. A few weeks before this, he had met with people representing the kremlin, told that they were interested in providing material, damaging to Hillary Clinton. And then after that, he goes on to cnn and tells jake tapper that this is all lies. You know, im used to ive covered politicians a long time and used to politicians spinning, exaggerating. This is just flat out lies. This is nothing more you can hear, this is nothing more than people who hate the president and the fake news or whatever just going how do you respond to that . Look, one point that Trump Supporters make is that Opposition Research is very real. They have noted that there were that ukraine may have provided some support to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Thats a Foreign Government doing that. And look, its true that everybody does Opposition Research. Its true that there are some gray zones, and so you had a former dnc official who was making inquiries of ukrainian officials, ukrainian officials were publicly giving hints that Paul Manafort was a problem. But there is a huge difference between that ukraine yanisch ukrainian issue, which i would say is a gray one and russia, a country that is an adversary, that is spying on us coming to a campaign and saying, you know, we have dirt on a nominee of the other party. And then you going ahead and calling in two other top officials to find out what that dirt is. Are you saying it should have been like the example that you mentioned with the Gore Campaign that they should have given the information to the fbi or. Yeah, id say at that point, you the moment you get that email, you know that the kremlin is trying to interfere in your election. You call up the fbi. Robert mueller has subpoena power and the question is, do you think that they will be able to tie this to the president . The president as his outside counsel responded tonight, the president knew nothing about the meetings. Go on. That may be true. You know, i have no idea. But i think it will be very important to get don trump junior and others speaking under oath about what went on. And you know, their own credibility is so shot at this point because after eight times denying that such a meeting happened and then finding out that not only did it happen but it happened under expectations that this was the kremlin providing these materials, i think it would be really good to have them under oath. Thank you, nicolas christophe. Good to be with you, as well. Breaking news to report out of mississippi tonight. Authorities say 16 people, 16 people are dead in the crash tonight of a military refueling plane north of jackson, mississippi. Governor phil bryant asking for prayers for the Crash Victims and their loved ones. Theres no further details yet on what could have caused this crash. We will keep you updated on that breaking news story. Also coming up tonight, how a real estate runin made a woman and her young son the targets of neonazi trolls. The shocking story of an army of hate. You know whats awesome . Gigspeed internet. You know whats not awesome . When only certain people can get it. Lets fix that. Lets give this guy gig really . And these kids. And these guys. Him. Ah. Oh hello that lady. These houses yes, yes and yes. And dont forget about them. Uh huh. Sure. Still yes you can get it too. Welcome to the party. Introducing gigspeed internet from xfinity. Finally, gig for your neighborhood too. Tonight, the founder of a neonazi website is facing a lawsuit for allegedly targeting a jewish woman, the mother of a young son with a twitter storm. I must warn you, some of the language youre about to hear is explicit and may be disturbing, but it illustrates the depth of hate in america today. Heres sara seidner. Reporter they call themselves trolls. What do you call them . Terrorists. Reporter in the digital era, it only takes a few keystrokes for hate to suddenly consume your life. You piece of shit. Reporter this is often waiting for tanya gersh, every day when she goes online or picks up the phone. I hope you die you worthless [ bleep ] you stupid ugly bitch. I had a lot of phone calls with gunshots that sound kind of still makes me sick. Reporter the gershes including their 12yearold son have received thousands of messages like this for months. Youre a whore of a mother should watch herself. Why dont you crawl into this oven, little boy. Theres a free xbox inside. They photoshopped endless imagery of me with nazi symbols on my forehead or my arm and terrible imagery of me and my son on the gates to auschwitz concentration camp. Reporter you think it scarred them . Yeah. Reporter its the last thing youd expect in the quaint resort town of whitefish, montana. I just pray that well be safe. Reporter she says it all started when he she came into contact with fellow resident Shari Spencer who happens to be the mother of White Nationalist richard spencer. Hail trump. Hail our people. Hail victory. Reporter he shot to fame celebrating president trumps win with nazi symbolism. His mom shari owns a commercial building in town. Gersh a realtor says she was trying to help spencer sell the building to calm tensions within the town over her sons beliefs. But according to a lawsuit filed by an antihate group, spencer published a blog post accusing gersh of threatening her with protests until she complied and sold her building. We called spencer who said she didnt want to talk to us. People say who do you believe . I say, i dont know. Reporter but the police chief says no complaint was filed by spencer and no charges were brought by any other agency. But after the blog post, the lawsuit says Andrew Anglin, the founder of one of the most popular neonazi web sites the daily stormer picked up the torch and unleashed what he called his troll army on them. Publishing their Contact Information on his site. The Southern Poverty Law Center is suing Andrew Anglin on gertschs behalf accusing him of intentionally inflicting emotional distress, invasion of privacy intimidation. The purpose is to cause them fear and emotional harm and thats illegal. Its not protected by the first amendment. Reporter we reached out to Andrew Anglin, who told us he now lives in, of all places, lagos, nigeria where he says his rights to say what he wants arent limited. He did not return comment about the gersh case. But we managed to catch up with one of the writers on the daily stormer website at a rally in houston. Andrew anglin specifically called on readers of daily stormer to contact her and tell them what they think about it. Thats exactly what they did. Theres no evidence that anyone from who was influenced by daily stormer made any Death Threats or anything. Ive watched . He made some threats definitely. Were going to throw you in a gas chamber . Thats a real credible threat. Reporter the Antidefamation League says anglin has launched his army of hate many times before. Anglin initially responded to the gertsch lawsuit with this image. Hes on a horse with a big spear into me. Reporter asking for donations to fight the lawsuit. He has raised more than 150,000 so far. Gersh is also receiving support in the form of batches of letters and emails. I dont think i could have survived the whole thing without this. Reporter while it was the hatred spewed by strangers that has terrified her family, it is also the kindness of strangers that is save them from utter despair. Sara seidner joins me now. Its disgusting. Some people may say that this happened to someone who came in contact with a White Nationalist family and it couldnt happen to me. They dont believe it could happen to them. Do you know of other instances where the troll earp has gone after people . Yes. Quite frankly. One of the people they went after was a student who happened to have risen in the ranks at her school. She became the first female africanamerican president of american university. We ended up doing a story on her and learned about this website and Andrew Anglin back then. She was just trolled because she had done well and they were concerned about her race. Not about her accomplishments. Is there any sense that this Political Climate, sara, were living in right now, is it egging on these kinds of hate mongers on social media or just in general . Its interesting you ask that. We asked that very question to tanya herself and her family. She said look, i dont want to look at this as politics. When you look at the overall picture and talk to the Southern Poverty Law Center, for example, or the Antidefamation League or the fbi, statistics are showing the numbers of hate incidents are up across the country. California for example, where i am right now, just had a report out this past week saying that the hate incidents are up about 11 this year. So yes, indeed, there are a lot of people looking at this and saying the Political Climate were living in is egging some of these folks on and giving them more of a voice, paying attention to them. I do want to mention this, too. And drew anglin told his followers to stop writing the gershes after he was sued. Interestingly she got almost no contact although there are a few people still contacting her and her family. Fascinating reporting. Thank you. Much appreciate it. When we come back, online hate mongering on the rise. Who is to blame . Our politicians or ourselves . Were back. You just heard the story of how a montana woman and her young son became the targets of a neonazi troll storm. And they are far from alone, believe me. Who is to blame for the rise in online hate . Our politicians, ourselves . Lets discuss. Political commentators matt lewis, Bakari Sellers and John Brabender here to talk about all of this. We just saras report, the all awful antisemitic messages that tabbia gersh has received. Gersh calls them terrorists. How do you see it, matt lewis . I think they are obviously trolls. But i think that it extends to the terrorism level. So not all trolls are terrorists. Not all terrorists are trolls. You can be both things. In this case, there are people who troll people, they get on twitter or on the internet. Want to get a rise out of you. They want to basically you know, get a reaction. But when it gets to the point where youre like putting their cell phone on the internet, their home address on the internet, that is an intent to rise somebody, to scare them. Even if its never acted on, you have caused that person to be fearful. Thats a very serious thing. And so thats. Do you think they should be prosecuted if someone docs someone . Im very hesitant to become litigious but i do believe you could make a very good case that somebody, that you were putting their lives in jeopardy potentially. But back to the terrorism angle. Thats what terrorists do. Live in fear. They want you to be fearful. Bakari, whats your reaction to the story . I think theyre punks to be honest. You take the guy from the daily stormer or whatever that right wing loony bin website is that people go and aspire to. Its not what america is. I mean, theyve lost wars before. Theyve lost cultural battles. Theyll lose again. So the disrespect that they showed this young lady is just indicative of who they are. This is far beyond right wing. This is neonazi stuff and goes beyond being right wing or conservative. I think thats fair to say. I think let me be clear. I dont think everyone on the right side of the aisle fits into this category but i will say everybody in this category is on the right side of the aisle. I want to be clear about that. So you know, i dont have any respect for these guys. I dont have respect for these people who adhere to these very perverse cultural beliefs. The fact of the matter is, they pick on people they can and do it online from a distance. They dare not say this to my face or your face or matt may be 57 or 5 , they wont say it to him either. Im normal height. You are huge sitting next to you. Lets get back to the topic here. John, seriously, what do you think of the reporting and these incidents . Well, first of all, theres something wrong with us if we cant all universally agree that what happened was horrific and we should speak in one single voice to say that criticize it, its outrageous. I think we have to acknowledge to some degree that this isnt just the right or left. Its both. I think we are all responsible in some way, responsible because we feed into it and responsible because were not all unified in criticizing it loudly. That really does have to change. Matt, its interesting because you think that the Trump White House is more a result of a rise in hate citizens in groups rather than a catalyst for it. Why is that . Heres what i think. Clearly Donald Trumps candidacy and presidency excited some you know, altrighters and white supremacists. No doubt about that. I think donald trump is more a product or a symptom of these trends than he is the catalyst of them. So for example, whether its the reality show phenomenon we have right now or whether it is the sort of the troll culture, the memes, donald trump capitalized on that. He didnt invent it. I think hes we get the politicians that we deserve. And hes sort of the man of the hour. Who is saying correct on that. I said that was correct. Donald trump didnt invent racism. Donald trump didnt invent antisemitism misogyny or bigotry or xenophobia. He did light a fire to it and just to the point of my colleague on the panel with us tonight, you know, yeah, this isnt a left or right issue. This is an American Issue we can stand up and speak out against. My response to that is okay, i agree with you. Why dont you tell your president to speak out against it. The lone voice thats missing from this condemnation of this hate speech on the internet, social media, in bathrooms, wherever it is is donald trump. And the fact that no one can see that, the fact that no one wants to say that, that in itself is cowardly. If we want to have a conversation how do we stop this speech, lets start with the, quote unquote, leader of the free world. John . Look, lets be clear on this. The divisiveness started not now. It started probably around 1994, quite frankly. Those of us who have been in washington a long time. Im going to start with slavery. You can start there but well probably start with divisiveness around slavery. Thats when the discord in washington became really bad. Theres two big changes. One is because of social media, everybody now owns a tv station. They can distribute their message very wide ranging. Thats one big change. The other big change we have to be honest about is the media themselves used to be sort of the judge. They were the objective observer now theyre more of a player in the ring taking sides. Not all media. To your point, hang on, bakari. Not all media. I think the media tries. Listen, there are people, media out there that will say were conservative media. They fight for conservative causes. Theres media who fight for liberal causes. They try to be as objective as possible and so lets just put that but to say that to compare it to whats happening in washington, d. C. , this is not just a washington, d. C. Thing. Its not just people in washington, d. C. Who are sending out hateful internet messages. Its mostly people who live in america, away from washington, d. C. I think thats where the twitter thing that crown was talking about comes in handy. The part about twitter. Its not just twitter. There used to be people who were very much fringe elements out there. There were they were generally seen as weirdos, and they couldnt get mainstream attention. And if you met them you could discern that they were weird. Now they can make videos, they can create memes. I think theyre punching above their weight now. Go ahead, bakari. Matt and john just quickly, you blame the media. You blame jack who invented twitter and zuckerberg who invented facebook. You blamed everyone else but when i sit here and ask you, the biggest troll of them all who picks on people daily and bullies people daily, who ignites these storms daily, when i ask you why cant the president of the United States have any accountability and stand up and Say Something, then you both evade and you both run away and you both tuck your tail and you both blame someone else. I dont think thats right. Ive been very critical of donald trump. Why dont you ask him this. Look, of course he should stand up and Say Something. I dont think he has to Say Something about this particular woman in montana or wherever. He had nothing to do with it. But the trend of lack of civility, he contributes to that. I said he was a product of it. You get people like donald trump when you have a culture like this. Demand him do something, demand him Say Something about it. I think were all responsible. Thats a copout. To pin this on donald trump, this is to say were all responsible. Thats a copout. Donald trump is the president of the United States. Much different than they used to be. Thats a copout. We all have to ratchet down the rhetoric. Thats a copout. If this was barack obama or Hillary Clinton or john kerry. Everything wrong in the world is donald trump. Im not going to say that. Nobodys saying that. All im saying is weve got to go. Ive got to go. I get the sense you want to fight with people tonight. Another segment attacking people. I understand why hes so upset. Im not saying whose fault it is. Within the last two years, ive never received as many hateful messages and threats as i have in my entire 20 plus years. Neither have i. In this business. Thats all ill say. Thank you all. Well be right back. Dude. Yodude. Unchings stheyre just jealous. Kelloggs raisin bran crunch with crunchy clusters and the taste of apples and strawberries. 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How are you feeling . Pretty good. Pretty lucky. Yeah, i can imagine. Before you tell us what happened, show us the scars and ill explain to people what happened. So you what do you got . You can see the claw marks where it grabbed the side of my head right there. Yep. And then i have staples on the back of my head where the teeth grabbed me. We can see that. You woke up to a crunching sound. You thought you were dreaming before you realized your head was inside a bears mouth. Yeah. Tell me about it. I was just i woke up and i thought i was dreaming and heard the crunching sound and thought it was a bad dream and i woke up to a lot of pain and a lot of heavy breathing and grunting from the bear. And it drug me about 12 feet. And i was just trying to fight it off using anything i could as a weapon, just my hands. I guess the crunching sound was the teeth scraping against my skull is what the doctor said. So you teach wilderness survival. So i imagine your instincts kicked in. What did you learn about your experience . How did it help you in this situation . It just made me more aware and that it really pays to know how to defend yourself against wild animals or anything like that but so what did you do . I just when it grabbed me, i reached for its eyes and ears and found its eye and poked at its eye and it let me go. And your again, this wilderness survival skill, given what you now experienced, do you have advice for campers . What do you say to people . Ive gone camping before but right now i might not be so inclined to. Yeah, just be observing of your surroundings and aware of your area and know not to have food in your area with you. If youre ever attacked by a black bear, fight back as much as you can. You were the only one with you, with your group, right . Yeah. There was a group of five of us all together and i was the only one that got attacked. So. Dylan mcwilliams, thank you for coming on cnn. Thank you. Thats it for us tonight. 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