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Flynn. And a new executive order on immigration expected soon. Plus President Trumps sweden moment. You look at whats happening last night in sweden. Sweden who would believe this . Sweden now the white house says the president was talking about a story that claimed crime from immigrants was on the rise in sweden. Tonight im going to talk to the film maker behind that story. I want to get right to President Trumps surprise announcement of Lieutenant General h. R. Mcmaster. Barbara. Reporter don, in the end, the president picked an active duty serving military officer who really did not have the option of saying no to the commander and chief. Hes a man of tremendous talent and experience. I watched and read a lot over the last two days. He is highly respected by everybody in the military and were very honored to have him. Reporter army Lieutenant General h. R. Mcmaster with years of battle field experience and deeply aware of politics at the highest levels of military. Id just like tosy what a privilege it is to continue suving our nation. I look forward to joining the National Security team and doing everything i can to advance and protect the interest of the american people. Reporter but now he wades into white house politics and a National Security counsel in term oil since the firing of Michael Flynn for not telling Vice President mike pence the truth about his contacts with russia. Mcmaster is known to be very plain spoken. People who know him say dont expect him to change. If general mcmaster not only understands his role and accepts it as it lead to the National Security counsel staff and serves as the lead policy maker for the white house and the administration, then he will have a chance to succeed. Reporter still he made find his biggest challenge is dealing with Stephen Bannon, the political advisor who has a seat on the National Security counsel. If steve bannon understands his role as being the political advisor and nothing more than that, then it has a chance to succeed as well. If mr. Bannon goes beyond that, then it could very well not only interfere with the innerworkings of the security counsel but result in disastrous policy choices for the United States. Reporter mcmaster didnt have the option of saying no, thanks like retired viced admirl harwood did. Now a promise that new National Security advisor can run his own operation. The president has said very clearly that the new nsa direct will have total and complete say over the makeup of the nsc and all of the components. And there is no demand made by President Trump on any candidate. He wrote about the failure of the u. S. Military to speak up to the president during the vietnam war. That book daereliction of duty became a must read inside the military circle. Now the question is will he continue to speak up to this president of the United States . Thank you very much. Want to bring in cnn military analyst, president ial historian brinkly, the author of land for america. And kimberley dozier. So good to have all of iyou on. What is your reaction to the new National Security advisor . General mcmaster is a tremendous pick as indicated in barbaras piece, hes very much an iconoclast. You have a military formation that moves in a certain direction and certain pace at a certain asimate and theres always somebody off to the side pushing it a little bit. When it comes to getting in the formation, hell lead it and lead it tremendously. But he will speak out. He will go to the president , we can only hope and say this is what im thinking. Hes not going to lay a bunch of problems in front of the president. Hes going to say heres what we think and what we can do and im speaking for the National Security counsel. I think hell succeed. Kim, im going to ask you that because you said he says what he thinks, hes rr famous for calling out big egos. How do you see that playing out . One of the things he was always valued for is his ability to say it plainly. Putroys used to bring him in to trouble shoot top problems and therefore hes going to bring that same attitude into this situation. Hes a guy who likes hearing this is an impossible issued to solve and ive spoken with one trump transition official who knows him and the players like steve bannon and others who are part of this team and they think mcmaster is going to fit right in because he knows how to work in people who are highly inhad telectual, had had healthy egos and all have a definite point of view. Administration officials tells nen came down to mcmaster and Lieutenant General kazline junior. Is that what do you make of that . Well, of the two men, h. R. Is the one who wrote the book dereliction of duty. Hes the one with the reputation actually, sometimying his career a couple times. Because he was known as someone who would mot pull his tongue and challenge convention within the army. Eventually his rabbi in the military was able to get you first and then once he got in that first star, its been like a rocket ever since. Hes quickly gone from top job to top job where hes help hadding sthof form, he certainly has the intellectual heft to dmig to it and get the team behind his ideas. Youve been standing by patiently. Senator john mccain released a statement on the mcmaster pick saying in part i give President Trump great credit for this decision as well as his National Security cabinet choices. I could not imagine a better more capable National Security team than the one we have right now. It goes a long ways to do that because general mcmaster is just top notch. Fact of the matter is weve been talking about him as a thought leader, but thats something that they their ph. D. A great in history. But he knows what its like to be on the battle field and won the Army Distinguished Service medal. And the contrast to general flynn who was halfcocked, making people very nervous about his proximity to donald trump, the falkt that we have a man as solid as general mcmaster, at that very key post. Youve heard your other two cnn analysts say were all had in agreement. This was a good pick. Maybe there are voices that dont like him. Have a surprise saying this is good. This is a good day for the white house. You say douglas because this is general flynn was a birther. Had tweeted some controversial themes. It appears this particular Lieutenant General has none of them. Thats right and Time Magazine in 2014 picked him as one of the most influential people going out there because hes rethinking the army. Hes trying to bring it into the 21st century but somebody not afraid to speak truth to power. We saw that in his book dereliction of duty. When he was able to go after some of the problems. So this is a solid pick for donald trump. General, big challenges. What are the Biggest Challenges for mcmaster . I would say the first thing that had h. R. Needs to do is sit down with the president and say mr. President , lets right now determine what are the top three things that the United States must accomplish over the course of your term in office. Lets start with the three thorniest issues. Those i recommend would be russia, china and what are we going to do with radical islamic terrorism and how will that change over the course of time . Lets not boil the ocean. Lets really attack all of those and make a determination as to whether we want to cooperate or compete in all of those three. And i think it would be a great time for the president to stand up with h. R. At his side and have a public conversation that says i have my new National Security advisor. We have a new team that is the spoke in terms of the capabilities we brought to the table and were going to be aligned, instep and were going to maintain a measured pace so we can get this stuff done. Thats the first thing i would recommend that general mcmaster take on. At first i want to play something for you. But i want to get inhto the president s Foreign Policy. After calling nato obsolete and saying the u. S. Should have kept iraqs oil. Heres what both of them said today. Watch this. It is my privilege, here at the nato Head Quarters to express the strong support of President Trump and the United States of america for nato and our transatlantic alliance. All of us in america have generally paid for our gas and oil all along and im sure that we will continue to do so in the future. Were not in iraq to seize anybodys oil. Kim, you think these comments will be enough to cume rr people around the world who may be concerned about the National Security and our policy here . Its a start. Its going to take action to follow up. With the nato comments that Vice President made, one way to look at this is not everyone innato is unhappy that the u. S. Is rattling this particular saber and saying youve got to start paying up. Think if youre a defense minister and youve been trying for years to get that kind of investment in your forces and your local government says no. Now you can go back to that government and say look, pence is saying this but we know that trump wants us to pay up. Youre going to have to start putting more money in this basket and that is actually a good thing. In terms of secretary of defense going to iraq and reassure them about not taking iraqs oil, that is something i know iraqi officials have basically behind the scenes been begging them to do. Saying we need to be able to keep working with you for the coalition to succeed and youre making it hard with our people on the ground when you Say Something like that. Do you think the president wants his team soft peddling his past remarks on a world stage . No, i dont think its necessarily that. I just think theres a schizophrenic behavior coming out of the white house on Foreign Policy. We have tillerson and mcmaster who want to have a coherent Foreign Policy and on the donald trump likes to say things that disturb people. So hopefully theyre going to have porzin key wrote a piece about something in need like a truman doctrine, streamlining what the trump Foreign Policy is. Hopefully well get that in coming weeks. Meanwhile, Vice President pence has really went to europe and nato and hes the voice of reassurance while everybody else in the world is quite nervous about donald trump saying one thing one day and one day Something Else the next. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. The trouble with sweden. President Trump Doubles down on claims about immigrants but the truth is very different. Getting heartburn doesnt mean i means i take rolaids®. 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The stucyatistics are clear and they would say its happening more violence. Men raping people, not the refugees. The majority of the people want an open door policy. Its astounding. The president of the United States to spread what amounts to false information. The whole thing is surreal. It was a saturday night and i get a text from somebody i think the president just referenced you. Clearly it seemed to be he was intumating this interview with tucker. So, yeah. Its incredible, surreal. Its unfortunate he had the misstatement but all good for me. We have to keep our country safe. You look at bhauwhats happenin germany. You look at whats happening last night in sweden. Sweden. Who would believe this. Sweden, they took in large numbers. Theyre having problems like they never thought possible. What did you think . First of all i have no idea this would be global blew out of proportions. I felt like he changed two words. If he just said i was watching something last night, it would have changed. Did he mean there was a terrorist attack . Did he mean he was watching a show . I cant discern that. Most of the media seemed to indicate he was talking about a terrorist attack last night. I dont know how he would come up with that. But depends on your perspective. And as you know, he has to be precise with his words. He is the leader of the free world and theres a lot of weight that goes into the worlds and there was no attack. This is a moment in your film and then well discuss. Lets play this. While the staggering increase in rape has made some news, this phenomenon has been coupled with a less widely reported increase in violence. Several immigrant riots have broken out and shootings have increased sharply. We looked at the stats from the u. S. State department. Crime rose about 7 from 2012 to 2015. Most of it was nonviolent Computer Fraud and vandalism. In 2015 there was no staggering increase. Where did you get your information and did you look at the official numbers . The far more accurate resource, state department. I look at the keeper of all stats for sweden. So im talking murder, im talking about Sexual Assault. Sexual assault in 2006, 2015 is almost 50 . Now, so those are the real numbers. Well, the real numbers dont show up almost 80 . For 2012 . Heres it numbers that you have. But especially when you considerer the population of millions of people and there were maybe 12 more murders, of course its going to be higher but that is not a spike in murders when you look at the population especially of immigrants in the country which is probably 1 . No. Way higher. If you look at the population of immigrants, theres no correlation between immigrants and a spike in crime, which there is no huge spike in crime. It shows over an average take a look at 2012. Thats on an average. Its on an average that theres no spike here. Crime goes up and down as it does here in america and every single country but as an average, there is no spike in crime. Its just not true. If you look at 2006, 2016, murders up. How is that not a spike . If you look that overall. Numbers go up and down every year. You can say numbers are up this year. Theyre down this year, theyre up. But if you look at them over a long period of time, its not up. So im telling you rate is up from 2005. But do you understand why those numbers are up . Its the way that they classify. No. Thats not true. They change the definition of rape in 2005. Im talking about stats from 2006 to 2015. After the definition was changed. The numbers from 2006 and 2015 are up 50 and theyre up every single year except for 2014 to 15 where theres a slight dip. Thats not how the experts are reading the numbers. Here is the swedish Prime Minister in response to President Trump. Do not forget that in interagzal rankings in human development, we like our guest from canada are doing very well. So, yes, we have opportunities, we have challenges. Were working with them every day and i think we must all take responsibility for using facts correctly and verifying any information that we spread. The swedish Prime Minister is upset or concerned about the president s classification. Yours as well. They feel unfairly targeted. They say the numbers dont match up to what youre saying. They dont deserve to be in the middle of this and youve blown this out of proportion because you have an agenda behind it. Is that a beromter for rape and murder being up. We can go these numbers back and forth but again i feel bad repeating the same number again but im telling you the overall number from 2006 to 2015 is up. Youre making a correlation to immigrants. We didnt talk about that. I think theres an absolute correlation. But the evidence doesnt show that. The numbers according to the numbers i have here and the numbers from the state department, they dont show a correlation between immigrants. They dont talk about immigrants in any of the statistics. Its interesting, in 2001 they used to have a classification for what the backgrounds of the people committing the crimes. They stripped that from the numbers. So of course theres not any correlation but that comes from other places 3. The most recent terror attack was an antiimmigrant terror attack in januaryt. Three suspected neonazis bombed an immigrant place. And thats part of the crime stats as well. Not rape. Rape has nothing to do with antiimmigrant said. But theres no correlation. Why do you say there isnt . All you have to do is read the evidence. It doesnt show. Wait we can get to that. But my question was about the antiimmigrant crime. Horrible. I condemn completely and neonazi crime is disgusting. Does your film focus on that . My film is about the social unrest its causing in sweden. There was a terror attack in september. Interestingly enough it was a sunni attacking a shiite cultural center. No difference if youre attacking white or shiite people. Thats a terror attack no matter how you slice it. But your numbers again dont show a spike not necessarily your numbers. The numbers youre reading dont show tat. Tell me if you agree with this number. Lets look at the Sexual Assault numbers. From 2006 to 2015 the numbers are up 50 . And by the way, thats an even bigger number than it seems because everywhere else in western europe and the United States, those numbers are up significantly. And one more quick stat. You want to talk about correlation. The people who commit ing the people who have been raped in the u. S. , 2 3 of people do not know their victim, right . In the u. S. In sweden, 2 3 of the victims do not know. The truth is that swede n las define rape more broadly than other comparable before and theres little stigma to reporting sex crimes. But according to official statistics, the Sexual Violence rate has been about the same from 2005 to 2014 and for the most part, the story of dark skinned foreigners targeting blond european women. Is not supported by the evidence. Im confused. 2005 and my mic is working. 2005, 2016 rape is up 50 . Are your ears and eyes working because the numbers as were reading from bra and from the state department they dont show what youre saying. Youre manipulating them. Theyre right here. What does that say . But even if you look at crime in the United States, overall for the past decade crime is down. There was spike. One year. Over time. Thats the same thing. Okay. Lets say that youre right. Youre classifying this as a sky rocket. Its not a sky rocket. So you think when rape is down in the United States and everywhere else in western europe and up 50 , thats not sky rocketing. Because of the way they classify rapes now. If youre at a concert and someone touches you on any part of your body, that is now classified as a rape. It was not before. Sexual assault, not rape. Sexual assault in the United States but its not in sweden. It is now under the rape law. Youre mistaken about that. The definition of rape in the United States we know what it is in the United States. Were talking about sweden. The definition of rape in the United States is essentially the same in sweden. Yes, it is. Its a different classification. Well go back and look at your information. My pleasure. Well be right back. As that im 26 native american. I had no idea. Its opened up a whole new world for me. Thats how i feel about blueemu pain relief spray. Odorless and fastacting. It soothes all my muscle aches and pains. 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This is not a money making venture. Reporter meet the team responsable for the movement. Three former Democratic Congressional staffers. We had seen the tea party emerge and so we knew how powerful local action could be because it was used very effectively against us. They sketched out an online guide for progressives how to stop trumps agenda. It was 10 people were reading it and then 90 people. Reporter then it crashed. They posted whats now known as the indevisible guide on a website now viewed 50 million times, about 7,000 indevisible groups formed. There are four simple tactics to engage in. Reporter a viral video followed. Their 10,000 video was crowd sor sourced from donations. They have filed with the irs as a nonprofit. Theres one fulltime employee who still hasnt been paid. Three weeks ago they put opdonation tab on their website. Their movement growing. Based on a simple idea. No is a complete sentence. Thats a smart move because it keeps your coalition together and allows you to have the greatest impact possible. I was just so inhspired and motivated by what they said. Reporter do you know the people who wrote this guide . No. I couldnt tell you their names. Reporter this is ann taylor, founder of the indiviable 57. How do you feel when the gop brushes you off as somebody paid . I think its funny. I think its a desperate attempt to delegitimize what they see as a powerful grass roots movement. Reporter it was loud at times, he did get booed. Some of the people said he didnt answer their questions sufficiently, that they wish he had had spent more time but appreciated that he showed up; that he held a town hall to begin with knowing he would face this crowd. There wasnt any major conflict, if there was, people not able to get in started to turn on each other. There was one arrest. Dont miss a democratic Leadership Debate live wednesday night, 10 00 eastern. Well be right back. 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That conservatives criticize people on the left for the last year for hating this guy for thinking hes empty and provocative and ignorant and all the sudden they liked him because he was their gay willing to criticize other gays and identity politics and people on the left. Now they have egg on their face because their gay turned out to be just as gross as everybody said he was. Some people are calling pedophilia because hes talking about young people. Thats just a bridge too far. The question is wlie didnt all the other things he talked about. Yiannopoulos was a guest on real time with bill maher. Here it is. The one area im a little concerned is when you go after people individually. If its in the cause of a greater truth, if people are hurt as collateral damage, ill go there. But i didnt understand the ghostbusters thing. Who gives a i wrote a bad review of a movie. I said she looks like a dude, she does. Shes barely literal and i do not accept that a hollywood that the star of a hollywood blockbuster is sitting in a hollywood mansion crying over mean words on the internet. Get over it. I dont like that kind of insulting and vile kind of speech, particularly the comments today with regard to pedophilia. But hes not my flavor, not my style of commentator. He himself has said im not a conservative. Hes been a protege of Stephen Bannon. People loved him criticizing the gay left. Until this moment he was their gay. Their house gay. Come on. Those are your words. Dont put those words in the mouths of conservatives. Should he have been invited . Invited to cpac. Have been he doesnt represent conservatism. He has some relationship to standing up to free speech on College Campuses but he does not represent my question has been all along did conservatives do their homework . Because i think many people on the left knew about these things. All you have to do is a Google Search and that every saturday night he lifts black men out of poverty and his driver takes them right back the next morning. This is a horrible person. Hes depraved and decadent to paraphrase hunter s. Thompson. Hes not a conservative, youre absolutely right. This is a guy who basically its like the enemy of the enemy is my friend. Because hes mean to leftists and radical feminists, we make him a hero. That doesnt make you a hero. Being politically incorrect it may make you a joke but doesnt make you a hero by virtue of doing it. I think its unfofrminate that have a conservative movement that has gone from regan to milo. Youre going to have to do it after the break. So nice, so nice. Sweet, sweet st. Thomas nice. So nice, so nice. St. Croix full of pure vibes. So nice, so nice. St. John a real paradise. So nice, so nice. Proud to be from the Virgin Islands. And the whole place nice. To experience your Virgin Islands nice, go to visitusvi. Com. Back now with my panel and maria didnt want to weigh in on this, im sure. Ill ask you the same question i asked matt. Do you think the people defending him and saying his free speech is being stiepalled, when there are many people saying this is about hate speech. Do you think they did their homework . No. Of course not. One, it was irresponsible and hypocritical for cpac to feel outraged about what hes done in the past. If they didnt know, thats inkaufi incompetence on their part. They asked him to come to thumb their nose at the protest at berkeley. Yes, they turned violent and that has no place anywhere, in the left, right, center, middle, anywhere. But people had a right to protest him and cpac invited him to stick it to the left. And this guy who is less than zero and our president , the president of the United States has actually tweeted positive things about him. So im happy to hear hailey and matt disavow him but a lot of people have a lot of conservatives. I would say most mainstream conservatives dont like him. Its more the breitbart. Com that likes him and i think he gets mileage out of the british accent. He plays identity politics. You cant call me a bigot because im gay. Whatever. Im egoing to let you finish. Im pulling a kanye now. This goes into what i want to say. Because simon and sustr canceld the book. So whatever. And then he posts an apology on his facebook page. I am partly to blame. My own experiences as a victim led me to believe i could say anything on the subject no matter how outrages. But i understand how my usual blend of british sarcasm, provocation humor might im a very forgiving person and i want to forgive them if they ask for it but there were a lot of scapegoats from the british accent to there were a lot of others. Hes a victim. There are lot of kids hurt deeply by the scandals that he referenced in his discussion and he needs to come out from the bottom of his heart and apologize because thats very hurtful. Hes insisting the tapes were edited deceptively and he does not advocate for illegal behavior. Ironic that somebody who has literally promoted badly edited tapes now says this. This apology doesnt ring true. Hes blaming everybody else. He has imposed a hoouj amount of hurt for people across the board. Now that hes at risk of losing his job, all the sudden hes sorry for his sar kacasm. The most important people in this country, President Trump and Stephen Bannon have not disavowed him. I appreciate. Ill see you right back here tomorrow. Woof eeh woof wuh [silence] [engine roars to life] [dog howls] dramatic opera music swells from radio [howling continues]. Sometimes you just know when you hit a home run. Thats how i feel about blueemu pain relief spray. Odorless and fastacting. It soothes all my muscle aches and pains. And its convenient for those hard to reach places. And if youre like me, youll love blueemu super strength cream. 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