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Time ago and he visited a disney property a few weeks ago. He may have been planning violence for some time. He bought military grade body armor. He called 911 three times while the attack was unfolding and likely radicalized himself online. But did the fbi drop the ball here . Did they drop the ball . We now know the kill wears under investigation for ten months. To night there is chilling new snap chat video of at tack as it is happening. You can clearly hear shots being fired. Were going to get to all of that this evening. We have a lot to get to in the next two hours. We want to begin with cnns pamela brown. Pamela joins me now. You have been following this investigation for us, the fbis investigation into the shooters. You have new information. What can you tell us . Thats right. We know that investigators have been speaking to the wife of this gunman. We know at least a day theyve been speaking to her, they lived in ft. Pierce, florida. And she has actually given some helpful information to investigators according to sources weve been speaking with. Shes been giving them information about a locations he visited prior to the attack and so investigators are using this information that the wife is giving in order to piece together a time line. And, of course, one of the things that investigators want to establish is whether there was preoperational surveillance at this nightclub and whether there were other target thats this gunman was casing prior to the mass shooting. We know that back in april that the gunman went to disney world with his family. And theyre trying to figure out was this all part of his plan . He was looking at disney world as a target or a family trip . At this point, investigators are pointing to hundreds of leads from people from witnesses, those who saw him around and trying to figure those things out. And figure out when he decided to launch this attack and how long it took him to blan. Theres bate of new information that is fascinating, pam l. A. Tell pame pamela. Tell us about him visiting this place before. In fact, four regular patrons, don, tell Orlando Sentinel that he had been there multiple times. Its unclear in what capacity. Was they to figure out if this would be a potential target or there for other purposes . That is what investigators are trying to figure out. It is a line inquiry. Theyre looking at that right now. But it certainly a great interest to investigators. If that is true, then that takes the investigation into another level which well talk to our panel about. Is this, you know, a hate crime sort of masquerading as a terrorist attack . There is so much to report here. Not the reporting you have but that he potentially was on a gay dating or hookup apps, hookup apps which well talk with the panel about as well. But so much to unpack here. This is all new level. Investigators were looking at trying to figure out was he trying to learn more about the Gay Community . Was this a personal thing . Was it part of the planning . They dont have the answers yet. But when it comes continue to conspiraciation from foreign terrorist organizations, its clear that there were several influences as one source said, he was taking in a lot of propaganda online from isis and other terrorist groups. But what is really growing on investigators is the fact that he clearly had some sort of allegiance to isis and isis enemy and talked about that in that 911 call as youll recall during the shooting. And so it is sort of unclear what exactly was driving this gunman. Its not clear cut. Sounds like he was conflicted in some ways over his personal views about certain things, religious views about certain things and maybe what he just was. Maybe he was, indeed, in some way, maybe he was a gay man. Who knows . But my question to you is back in 2013, the fbi interviewed him. I talked to his father today, 2013 and 2014. At one point he was on the terror watch list. We know he wanted to get body armor as well. But could not get body armor. Do we know how he became radicalized here . I can tell you that fbi looked at his comments he made to coworkers in 2013 saying he has associations with al qaeda and hezbollah with his familiarly. Told investigators that he made it up because coworkers were taunting him, making fun of him because he was a muslim. He said he made up the comments. After ten months of investigating, the fbi closed the investigation. They couldnt find any derogatory information. They thought this just one of the cases where the coworkers were concerned, brought it to us and there is nothing to back it up. Then the next year, don, we know that after he was taken off the watch list, after the investigation was closed, they interviewed him again because there was someone he may have been associated with. And that was this american suicide bomber who was fighting in syria and blew himself up. In fact, he mentioned him in that 911 call during the shooting. They didnt find anything then. Essentially, don, the fbi moved on from there. What about this Firearms Training camp . This is something investigators are looking at as well. Back in 2007, he had extensive fire arms training at this Law Enforcement academy. I think it was Something Like 80 hours of training they get there over the course of a month. We leshd through talking to some of the classmates he was actually expelled because of an episode where he became upset. He felt like someone was making fun of his relujon. Sow was expelled. All of these are parts of the puzzle that investigators are putting together to see if something was missed back then. How was he able to, you know, get away with all of this and then launch this mass shooting. All right. Stand by. I want to bring in julia cayenne, our nogsational securi analyst. You heard the information she is reporting. He had been to this club before. Yes. We touched on this last night with Michael Weiss about possibly this is someone who is so homophobic, that maybe he had issues himself and it looks like that this is leading to that. I think thats exactly right. Apologies for the voice. I think there are multiple motivations. It may very well than the isis motivation is the least likely one. Its a front for a guy who is very confused about his himself. Ive been saying since this happened, there is no singular moment can you say thats the reason why he did this. He was heres the thing, when this first happened, i wondered if as i said, was this a roouuse, his allegiance about qaeda and isis . Are we going to find out that this maybe was a domestic thing . He had a boyfriend and he had an argument with someone in the club and then all of this is a ruse thrown in at the end to throw everybody off the trail . I know. Im sometimes viewed as too cautious on air. Ive seen this unfold a lot of times. The story on day one is not the story on day 14 or year two. This is going town fold very slowly. Well find out more about him. Thats why this rush to an explanation thats going to make us decide something i think is the wrong way to go. But i will say, i think that ruse notion is something investigators are exploring. But they did say that he was over some time taking in this propaganda. So there was something about that that intrigued him. Picking up on this point is they may all be true. Right . There are multiple motivations with someone like this including Mental Health illness and isis, al qaeda. You know, there are mental issues in there. This is really a case. There is a gay hate crime. You dont pick a club on a busy the busiest night of the week to go to if you dont have something or there is something in you that you, you know, youre hiding or what you have. Its important that you and others keep saying that. If we can still focus on isis, we forget what that community had happen to them. And as a community thats reeling. I want to bring in our terrorism expert Michael Weiss. He is Senior Editor at the daily beast. He was bold enough to bring this subject up to put it on the table as well. We many of us had been thinking, michael, what do you make of this new information about the possibility of these gay hook up apps he was on, jacked and possibly grinder . What do you make of him attending this club, coming to this Club Numerous times and then there is also a report in another newspaper pthe pal em beach newspaper saying he asked me out romantically but he was not out. It seemed likely to me only because, you know, the guy clearly was targeti tart h. Ing the Lgbt Community. You can go in and shoot up a walmart or a school or a restaurant. There was something very purposive about him targeting a largest gay nightclub in orlando. And then all of this stuff started to creep out about him having had a drag queen friend and him being friends with lesbian bartenders and Gay Community in orlando. It seems to me that he was probably harboring a secret. And, you know, as you know, don, a lot of hobo phones end up being closeted gay men. There is a rumor or speculation surrounding one of the paris attackers, he was seen in brussels in sort of the gay hot spots in brussels. This came out in the European Press after the paris massacre. And the speculation was, well, look, he was either scouting targets there to hit the Gay Community in brussels or, i mean, if you listen to the people who went on record and talked to newspapers such as oit sunday times in britain, they thought he might have been a gay prostitute or Just Cruising these neighborhoods. So it wouldnt be first time, by the way, that jihadies are, you know, sort of they seek the radical islamist ideology as a means of trying to contain or, you know, sort of neuter what they consider to be sexual devian deviance. Its not the first time that somebody went to a far rightwing ideology for the same reasons. Weve seen this in american politicians all the time, right . Yeah. We see this homophobic, but this is not just islam. There is also most other religions, catholicism here, christianity in the United States, the same sort of thing. But this person is conflicted so much by ideology and what was what he was naturally inside had he dealt with these this issue which is a possible issue for him. There may be 50 people who were alive today including himself and another 50 who may not be injured if he had just said, you know what . This is who i am. And if religion, his ideology was more accepting, then we may not be dealing with. This thats just a possibility here. Yeah, of course. Look, i mean, if you take religion or islam out of the equation, i mean, i keep saying there is a political project underlining the isis ideology. Theyre trying to reach every kind of, you know, ultra violent or psychopathic or loserly gangster orien take theed individual in the world. Not even muslims, by the way. They want people like this. Mentally weve been talking about him being emotionally unstable or mentally handicapped. I mentioned last night, al qaeda in iraq, the first incarnation of isis used to take mentally disabled 12yearold girls and strap them with suicide vests and have them blow up checkpoints in iraq. In rochester new years eve this past new years, there was an abortive attempt by a guy at the New York Times described as a mentally handicapped panhandler that wanted to join isis and commit atrocity in rochester, new york. That was interrupted byebye a sting operation. There is something in the way we deal with terrorism and look for a single driver. There is no one cause for why people are drawn to isis. Ive drawn to people that have been driven into the isis fold who you and i would consider be to be secular, people that take alcohol, smoke marijuana, did not believe in 72 virgins in the after life y are they drawn to it . For geopolitical reasons or hate the United States for the foreign policy. Yeah. Michael, thank you. I appreciate your expertise. Just putting new language here into the lexicon. Most people may not know what grinder or jack, is they are geo social sites where gay men hook up. It will tell you your you know, a mile away, two miles way, ten miles away and they hook up. He was allegedly on two of these apps trying to reach people. Thats a reporting. So make sure you stay with me. More on our breaking news. The deadliest mass shooting in american history. Thats what were reporting on at a nightclub in orlando, florida. Us about, my interview with the killers father coming up here on cnn. My lineage was the vecchios and zuccolis. Through ancestry, through dna i found out that i was only 16 italian. He was 34 eastern european. So i went onto ancestry, soon learned that one of our ancestors we thought was italian was eastern european. This is my ancestor who i didnt know about. He looks a little bit like me, yes. Ancestry has many paths to discovering your story. Get started for free at ancestry. 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Can you talk to us about homosexuality of homophobia in the muslim world . Sure, don. Its a very sad story. The truth of the matter is muslim communities are very socially conservative and there is, you know, in a way that maybe 30 or 40 years ago was true in many christian communities, there is a lot of homophobia. There is a great deal of suspicion. There is a great deal of discrimination and more than anything else, there is an enormous amount of repression. Now in addition to that, you have this kind of radical islamist ideology which ramp this is up 100 fold. They hate gays and they hate people of other religions. So all of that is the operating kind of ecosystem in which somebody like this is breathing. And who knows what his own view, you know, what his own inclinations were. But certainly it would make for a very toxic environment. And its one of the great problems in muslim countries which tend to have extremely repressive laws and attitudes about homosexuality. And, you know, it is a good example of how that repression and intolerance can produce very, very strange, very, very damaging pathologies. So its not impossible at all that he is in a sense a product of all that repression, you know, and then god knows as you say what his own inclinations were. Lets talk about the president. The president will be here on thursday. Hes coming to orlando. Today he says this appears to be a case of homegrown terrorism. What do you think when you hear that . I think hes exactly right. This is the scenario that people have worried a great deal about. Heres a guy who born in the United States, american citizen, who did not really do anything that would allow him to be jailed. You know, people have akusd the fbi and i understand that, because the fbi was working on a tip and that frankly is a good example of very good work theyve done intelligence that they gathered both through electronic surveillance and also through the community, muslim communities they were working with. But the guy didnt do anything. And in the United States, in a free society, you cant lock somebody up until theyve done something. Do we want to gift police the power to on a suspicion arrest somebody i dont know. Hillary clinton raised an interesting question. If the fbi is actively investigating someone and they think he has ties to terrorism, she you should he be allowed to buy assault weapons . The problem is its a suspicion. What do you do with somebody who hasnt yet done something, a u. S. Citizen and, yet, you have some suspicions . This is the nightmare scenario. Its not clear to me the fbi made any stumbles. Ooze easy to engage in kind of bombast and demagoguery the way donald trump did. Its not clear what you do going forward. Yeah. And want to bring in the sheriff to discuss. That the president said it was homegrown terrorism. The way that our system is set up, you know, you cant just stop someone from doing something because of a suspicion. That is correct. I will tell you, ive been told by friends of mine that department of justice, there are so many of these cases, they just dont have time to give them the time they need to uncover what they need town cover. And somehow after investigations in 13 and 14 as you already reported, you have got to be able to connect the dots to that gun data base and if he tries to buy a gun, even if he ought to be there ought to be some kind of signal. A yellow flashlight on the computer, call the fbi, call atf further investigation is needed. This person was on a terror watch list. There should be a fwlag. Part of the problem also is that we do not connect the dots in all our data bases. The refugees that are coming in right now, they are theyre in the health and Human Services and the department of state data bases. But that is not shared with the department of Homeland Security or local Law Enforcement. Its time rerethink. Its time to protect the masses of people. What is the problem here . Is it lack of resources or lack of, you know, its not a priority, a combination . What is the problem . I think we have forgotten about 9 11. Nobody wants to talk about it anymore. Were afraid to upset the apple cart. Theyre going to talk about june 12, 2016 for many years to come. Morocco has an interesting situation. They will side with protecting the populous and dhoent worry too much about offending those that want to hate and kill. That is their belief system there. Weve got to find a balance. Also, whether we like it or not, were in a war with radical islam extremists. And weve got to put that back on the top priority list. And, of course, the two candidates arguing about using the exact terms today going back and forth. Well be continuing to do this up until election day. Fareed zakaria, thank you. Sheriff, thank you. Well be back here on cnn. Real is touching a ray. Amazing is moving like one. Real is making new friends. Amazing is getting this close. Real is an animal rescue. Amazing is over twentyseven thousand of them. There is only one place where real and amazing live. Seaworld. Real. Amazing and well have to use like double maybe more im going back to the store . Yes you are. Dish issues . Get cascade platinum. One pac cleans tough food better than 6 pacs of the bargain brand combined. Cascade. Were back now live in orlando. A city in shock at the horrible violence at the nightclub that killed 49 innocent young adults. What led the killer to commit such mass murder that, is one manufacture questions remaining to be answered. I sat down today with someone who may offer some insight into his motives. And thats the killers father. Who told me he lost saw his son the day before the massacre. Heres more of what he has to say. The president called this homegrown extremism and a terror attack. Why do you think your son chose that club and what do you think his motive was . Well, i was shocked as you are. Because i didnt notice. I saw him in the past two days. I didnt notice anything, emotional behavior on his part. He didnt get my attention not being not normal. And if i did notice that, i would have taken care of him myself. I would have called the Law Enforcement. Why do you think he chose why do you think he picked that club . I wish he was alive and i wish i had an opportunity to talk to him. Why did he do what did he. You dont approve of it . Number. There is a Facebook Post of you saying that it is not mans responsibility to punish gay people. Its gods responsibility to punish gay people. You misunderstood me. Maybe translation is wrong. I said anything any person does is between him and god. And god is does not make a judgement. Not a human being. We have no right to make a judgement about anybody. Do you think its a sin. Does it go against your religion . Thats their own chosen way to live. So in general, a rule of thumb, god created woman for man and man for woman. In teaching rev lidgeon. You believe god created a man for a woman and not two men or two women together . Thats what theyre teaching us. Thats what i say. But i dont judge anybody that the way they live. Did you teach him that . Do you think that he was a regular he was paying attention for religion issue. And islam doesnt teach this. Discrimination or bad behavior about people. So this whole thing that has been reported, and i think that you said, you said it. He saw two gay people kissing and said his son had to witness that and that upset him . Not that i think he just had that reaction to see, you know, in front of the whole people in playing music in downtown miami and two men kissing each other in frontst kids and wife and woman. It was a surprising thing to him. So you dont think that he had an issue with. That he chose a gay bar packed on a saturday night to i tell you, i wish he was alive. I would ask why did he go to that club . He said that he when he called 911 twice during the standoff, that he pledged allegiance to isis. Well, i based on what ive seen him coming to say hello to us and his family, the whole thing, i didnt notice anything radical and those people are theyre the enemy of humanity. I never agree with those the killer people. Isis. Enemy of humanity. And humanity. And the way they conduct themselves and harming everybody. Theyre not religious group. I dont know what they are. Just a killer group. Did you ever call for him having an issue of Mental Healthish snu. Number. Were you ever concerned about that . No. I didnt see he was atentative to work. He was attentive towards his family, towards his us, you know, coming on a regular basis and taking care of his family. So there was nothing there get my attention in other words. His exwife said he had mental issues and that he was obsessive and she was her family had to rescue her after four moves marriage. They were married for some time and if she had a problem why she didnt come to me . She never told you about a problem . Yeah. No, he is dead and she maybe she gets some reputation or something personal grudge if she had. So if she has a problem yshgs as a father of omar, why didnt she come to me and say this is a problem that you want to talk to your son. So why . I want to ask you this. This is something we may have our disagreements about gun safety regulations but we should all be able to agree on a few essential things. If the fbi is watching you for a suspected terrorist links, you shouldnt be able to just go buy a gun with no questions asked. Shes speaking she is speaking directly about your son. Shes saying your son had been interviewed about it fbi at least three times. In 2013 and 2014. But yet so he could still buy guns. Shes saying that your son should not have been able to buy these guns legally. Do you think he should have . I think miss Hillary Clinton does have the facts. The facts are that he was working for a Security Company. And they did give him a gun. He had a gun license. You said she doesnt have the facts . No. Because he was working for Security Company. And Security Company gave him a gun. And he had a license for carrying the gun. But he bought two guns recently. The guns that he used in this mass shooting. I think he had one gun from the job and i heard from the news the other gun. He bought guns. Do you think if your son, let me finish the question, do you think if your son had been interviewed about it fbi for suspected ties to terrorism, should he have been able to buy weapons . I wish it didnt happen. Base ond what i know, fbi is the most professional and alert people on the face of the earth with the way that i saw them in the past few days. And they do their job wonderfully. And i think should your son have been able to buy guns . If you have a gun license, i dont think you should have a problem. Sow should have been able to . What im asking from the nation and the Law Enforcement and congressman that they should have a person has a gun license, he or she should go through the seven days waiting period or ten days waiting, whatever. You should get investigated for why a person buys a gun. I never had guns. Donald trump is using this saying that this would happen at the nightclub is hes doubling down on his stance on not allowing muslims, banning muslims from cunning into the country temporarily, do you believe with that . Donald trump has a very extreme view of this country, United States of america. His speech and his behavior, i dont think it benefits the National Unity like the general from pentagon said that hes not good for National Security of the United States. Every ethnicity or religious group or muslim, christian, jewish, or any religion has nothing to do with a person being a one person. My son is responsible for his behavior. Your son is going to be known as a person who committed the worst terrorist act since 9 11 and biggest mass shooting in american history. Right. As a terrorist. With sympathies to with sympathies to isis, what does that . His act was a terror act. But as far as him being a terrorist, im not aware of. This is the worst thing that can happen for a father to see son act like this. Do you feel any way responsible for . I did my job to raise him, sent him to college, send him to high school and pay for all his expenses, get him educated, get him to work, taking care of his family and the past two days this happened like im sad. Im upset. Im really speechless what he did. And doii dont forgive him as a father. 50 people are my family, the 52 people that got injured, they are my familiarly. I care for them. Im very sad for them. They lost their loved ones. I lost him. The killers father speaking out tonight. Well have more on the breaking news tonight, the deadliest shooting in american history. There is a survivor story you dont want to miss right after this break. Every ingredient is the main ingredient. The new Green Goddess cobb with avocado, bacon, freshly made dressing, tomato. And chicken. At panera. Food as it should be. When you cook with incredible thingredients. Ato. You make incredible meals. Fresh ingredients, stepbystep recipies, delivered to your door for less than nine dollars a meal. Get your first two meals free at blueapron. Com cook. All right. I want everyone at home wherever youre watching to sit down and watch. This okay . Were going to talk about this massacre here in orlando and referring to the shooting inside this nightclub like somebody out of a horror movie my next guest says it was like. I want to bring in angelica jones. Thank you for joining us. This is the first interview youve done . Yes. Because you were just too too hard to talk about. Youve been the lead entertainer there are for ten years . Yes. You werent supposed to work that night but you showed up at the club. What happened . Well, just regular saturday night that we were on the patio. All of a sudden, you hear gun shots. What do do you . Survival mode kind of kicks in and with me being an employee, i just wanted to make sure that i could get at least every door open that i could. I didnt, you know, you think about Horror Stories that you hear about in clubs and fires, people trying to get out. That is something that we always try to pride ourselves on is make sure that people always have a way of escaping. So what did do you . I opened up the back door to the hallway that employees go down. Then i saw that other doors were opening. And then i ran to the dressing area and i saw about five other individuals, six other individuals and i just told them to get in and to duck down and to hide, get as close as we co. What were you hearing as this was going on . Im hearing about a good 50 gun shots going after back to back. And our bartender and a friend and another performer of ours, he came in and we barricaded the door. And we just ducked down and tried to stay quiet as long as we could. Told everyone to put the phones on silent so that if he was walking by he couldnt hear us. But we can literally hear him walking walking through. Whats going through your head . Shooting. Actually, nothing was going through my head. You could hear him shooting as wehes walking throughout do . We could hear him shooting and yelling. What was he saying . I couldnt really understand what he was saying. All i could do is pray. Thats the way im raised. Thats what i know. So i just asked god to just shield us as much as he could until someone could get in there to get us out. Had you ever seen him before . No. The first time i ever saw him was actually on tv. From the reports that weve been seeing. Its nothing you can fathom to understand. You can say its like a movie. But when youre it in, its not. In a movie, you know what the outcome may be. And in this situation, dunlt know. So i called my best friend and she called my mom. And thats what kind of broke me because you dont know if this is your last time to get to speak to your mother. So axel was on the phone with our manager and he made sure that the police knew that we were in the dressing room. We have portable air conditioner there. How long were new there . For about two hours. If not longer than. That it felt like forever though. And you were just being quiet. Just being quiet. I was stooped under the sink because our dressing room had actually has like sink, toilet, washer and drier. So you there was an air portable air conditioner. Did you take it out of the wall . What happened . We thought to do it at first. We were trying stay quiet. You didnt want to make noise. We didnt know how to get it out. Once axel talked to nema and the police, they finally came and they pushes it in. But im not a little girl. So im looking like how are you going to get through that . How am goig to get through this . By the grace of god, i made a way. And you got through. Zblest of us d and none of us were hurt, thank god number bullets bullets dont have a name on it. So those shots could have fired into the dressing room at any time. But we heard, angelica, people had to hide themselves under dead bodies. I know friends that actually had to hide under dead bodies just so that he would think they were dead adds well. Its just a senseless act of violence. A true face of evil when you really think about it. When you think about going to a gay club, many times for those of us would are lgbt, its a haven that you can be yourself. You dont have to hide. Maybe if youre closet or whatever and so this is a safe spot for people, a place where people go and they feel comfort. Thats why i work at that particular club. Explain to the people who are watching. They may not know. They may not know what the culture is like in a gay bar. They may not the reason why the name of the club is pulse is barbara named that club after her brother who was gay. When he passed away, that was her way to keep him alive. So why not work for someone who im a transjegender individual. Getting work is not the easiest thing for me. But all my life i wanted to entertain. I had a safe haven, a place i could come and call work and able to pay my bills. And at the same time honor someone that meant so much to our owner. And for someone to come and try to take our safe place away from us, thats why its an act of terrorism. You cant let people like that win. And you have to speak to your mom one more time. My mom is at my house right now. Its a blessing that im here. By the grace of god, im here. Youre going to be all right. Thank you. Were going to be all right. Thank you. I appreciate it. I appreciate it, too. God bless you. Thank you so much. Well be right back. Whats it like to be in good hands . 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It is something that i needed emotionally to give myself time to experience it. And the community and the sense of love and outpouring and support. They rang a bell for every one of the victims. It was really amazing is how long those bells tolled. Yeah. I thought it was important, terry, in the middle of that interview there were many people in the home didnt know what was like to go to a gay bar and dont know a lot about the Lgbt Community, especially trans people. And to have angelica here. Its not just uber wealthy people like, you know, Caitlyn Jenner or what you have. People are usually struggling. Hard for them to find work. This is her safe haven. Thats how she pays her bills. And someone disrupts that not only her life but hundreds of lives in the process of doing that. Its been rough. Weve had, speaking to the community, weve had grief counsellors both on the phone and live at the center. Its gotten so intense that we actually had to add another line this morning for people calling in. You know, we even got people with what happened on friday here in orlando and then again what happened on saturday night, we actually had people afraid to leave their house. So at one point you have people out of work. You have bartenders. A lot of people making a living and paying their rent from this and then you have the community who is now some people are just afraid. This is a diverse community. This happened to be latin night. The most popular night. But we look at, you know this is community that is already struggling, especially our young lgbt people of color, right . Especially transgender brothers and sisters are also, you know, victimized more so than anyone else. And usually those of color are hit most. You started a go fund me page to help with this. We have, in association with a quality of florida, we have start aid go fund me page and right now were a little overed 2 over 2. 7 million. And what were doing is i just got off a call with a quality company. Were looking tomorrow and plan on how were going to get that money to the families. We dont want the families to worry about a bill. Whether it be a hospital bill, whether it be an airline bill. We have a couple of families that want to fly the bodies of their loved one back to their hometown. And we want to make sure that everything is paid for. As a matter of fact, as we were talking at the vigil, we got a message from an American Airlines who pledge d one millionaire miles from the families. A lot of corporations are coming through. The gofundme page is incredible. And were making sure that families are taken care of. In the way that you responded, you know, is there something you want to tell our political leaders and everyone that is watching international sfli. The way to respond to this is not hate. You dont spanned to hate with hate. That is not the language needed here. Absolutely not. No. Ive been very distressed to hart National Political commentary about hatred. I think its ridiculous to capitalize on this tragedy by making yourself look better by hating others. I think that you hate muslims, you hate gay people, you hate gay people, hate is hate. There were people in the Muslim Community that have been here throughout this whole tragedy supporting this community. And i think its important to say that. Theres a hole in our hearts that our hearts will heal if we work together. Patty yushgs wonderful. Terry, youre wonderful as well. Is this los angeles or new york where were going now . Los angeles. There is a march now. I think lady gaga is reading the names of the victims as we speak. Well go to break on. That well be right back. Wow. 37. Peter gonzalezcruz, 22. All selfmotivated selfstarters. 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