Who would have thought this is where wed be now . Down is up, up is down when it comes to this political season. Lets get right to the breaking news, though, on donald trump. And here to discuss, cnn senior political cnn senior legal analyst, im changing your title here, is jeffrey toobin. Chief political correspondent, dana bash. Republican consultant, Margaret Hoover, and trump senior adviser, steven miller. Good to have all of you sitting here at the table. Dan, i want to start with this latebreaking news. A. B. Coldhouse. The man who ran john mccains vp search and came up with sarah palin. What is this all about . Who can you tell us . He did, and that is certainly what he is known best for, for obvious reasons. But he also is somebody who has been doing this for many, many years. Many cycles. He is the goto guy for republicans on how to and how to vet candidates. He actually was talking to our very own michael smerconish, just a few weeks ago, i believe, about what its like to vet vp candidates. Look at what he said. Tend to be family issues. By the time that someone gets to a Vice President ial long list, any personal issues have are already wellknown or disclosed. But the intrusive nation of a Vice President ial vet extends far beyond just the potential nominee and his or her spouse to family, includeing brothers, political affiliations of parents, that sort of thing. Thats where we see most of the problems. Again, that was, obviously, him responding to a question about where the biggest pitfalls are. I should also say that he has said explicitly that what he recommended to john mccain is that sarah palin is somebody who is a possibility, but she is highrisk, highreward. And he said to michael smerconish, that he stands by that recommendation. Of course. As you were speaking, i was looking at this other list of Supreme Court justice, possible nominees, donald trump came up, and i was counting 11, right . Whats the reaction been to this list . Well, conservatives are thrilled. Because they feel that this is a list that not only they would write, but they have written. Many of them came from a list inside the heritage foundation. Some federal society. These are two very prominent, important conservative groups that deal with these issues. But i think that the thing to remember and to keep in mind is, as far as i know, and jeffrey, youre the scholar here, this is unprecedented. I mean, traditionally, you have candidates saying, well, im going to have an Advisory Group and theyre going to come up with some potential names. To actually put the names, pen to paper, out there is really, this is the first time ive seen it. And theres no question that some people want to make clear to conservatives that he is one of them. And i will tell you my reporting about his meeting with House Republican leaders last week is that House Speaker paul ryan said, we need to make sure that we really know youre a conservative. Youve got to make sure that you do well on the scalia vacancy. And he said, ill get you a list and ill do it soon. And here it is. So, again, unprecedented and is this enough to make conservatives happy . This will make conservatives happy. This is a dream team of conservative judges. If you really want roe v. Wade overturned and abortion illegal in states in the united states, these are the judges you want on the Supreme Court. If you want gay and transgender people not to have equal rights guaranteed under the constitution, these are the judges you want on the Supreme Court. This is a difference between democrats and republicans, between conservatives and liberals in this country. And this election is going to be one of the clearest choices, especially with a vacancy existing right now. One of the clearest choices between the parties and donald trump made that very clear today. Were going to get to this side of the table, but im not done with this side of the table. I want to ask you, because a couple of people who are on this have been very have been highly critical of donald trump, quite frankly. Don willett of texas tweeted this. He said, donald trump, haiku, who would the donald name to scotus, the mind reels, cant finish tweet. Justice don willett will rebuild the death star, the rebels will pay for it. And diane sykes of wisconsin, the exwife of charlie sykes, radio talk show host and vocal critic of trump, im wondering, do these picks unify the party by telling people what they want to hear, these picks. First of all, judge willett in texas is famous for his twitter feed. Among us legal nerds, this is a twitter feed everybody follows. I mean, when hes quoting star wars as a legal nerd, thats like thats why everybody follows it. A perfect combination, right . I think this is an example i mean, this list is intended to show, look, i can take criticism from conservatives, but when it comes to the Supreme Court, i am one. And so im happy to have these people. Can i just add a little bit of palace intrigue. Willett is very Close Friends with ted cruz. They worked together in the Solicitor Generals Office in texas. And another one of the people on the list is the older brother of senator mike lee of utah, who was ted cruzs closest friend in the senate. My goodness. All in the family here. Its wonky, but we love it. Hes clearly trying to signal to conservatives, steven, that he is conservative, that he has that same ideological standpoint as they have. But is this enough . I mean, should he go on and say, you know, hes not promising to nominate any of these people. Theyre just suggestions. Should he say, im promising to nominate at least one of these people. You never want to rule out the possibility of finding an amazing judge that has a record just like these people. This is about setting a parameter, saying, these are the kinds of judges that will shape my thinking and my approach to the Supreme Court. What do you think of these picks . Well, theyre fabulous. These possibilities . To me. The i mean, theyre amazing judges. They really are some of i mean, jeff, you would agree, these are some of the brightest legal minds in the country. Theyre very bright. They are very conservative. And that theres a real choice there. And i would just go, margaret. Okay, heres the thing. First of all, yes, the Movement Conservatives will be very happy about this. The to the extent that they are not nevertrumpers. The problem is, a huge portion of the Movement Conservative sort of group are nevertrumpers, and they dont trust that when donald trump says hes a conservative, and look at just this list of 11 people that he was able to drum up, that that means that hell actually nominate one of them. Because he doesnt have a recorded history of elected office and elected politics that he can demonstrate hes actually been a conservative. To the contrary, he actually has a long list of political donations hes given to democrats, issues that hes stood for, that are not consistent with movement conservatism. So, i mean, if you look at any of the conservative blogs right now, they doubt that this is something that hell stick to. So, while the names are the right names, is it authentic to say that, surely, this is the philosophy of Donald Trumps jurisprudence. Happily respond to that, don . I do. I will. Go ahead. First of all, im glad the primarys over, so we dont have to litigate some of these things anymore. But donald trump is trying to solve a problem that has vexed his party for years, right . Which is that weve had judges that have been nominated, like kennedy, like souter, like roberts, and weve been horribly disappointed. This is not just a heres who im going to nominate for his own sake. This is an actual plan to solve a problem that has plagued our problem for decades. This is the way to do it right. Put the names out, vet the names, know who they are. How does this solve a problem . Because we used to try to find people under the radar. We dont know who they are. Whos this souter . Lets find out. Roberts had argued some case before the high court, but didnt have a long record of ruling on cases. These people have made decisions under the klieg lights. We know how theyll respond to controversies. There arent going to be surprises how do you respond . She said that theres a huge part of the gops who are nevertrumpers, right . Not amongst the voters. Maybe amongst some of the but there looks like there are two here that might be. Diane sykes and don willett may be nevertrumpers, if you look at their twitter feeds. I thought the tweets you read were intended more of a joke maybe hired before this list was put out. Maybe should have vetteded some of these nominees. Heres the flip side of this. Donald trump, one of the extraordinary things that i think he did that i think is quite good for the Republican Party is hes blown up this notion of this conservative orthodoxy straight jacket, that you absolutely have to be past these values voters litmus tests in order to win the republican nomination. Thats what he blew up. The disproved ted cruzs entire theory, that you have to be a social conservative to the t in order to get the nomination. And so when it comes out and puts this list together thats really sort of, you know, a dog whistle for social conservatives to say, hey, look, im one of your guys, its like, if youre going to play that game, play it in the primary, but now that youre running for the general, why are you doing it . There are some factual issues there. He started looking at this after scalias untimely passing. Weve been working on this for weeks and months and only recently finished this process. Another thing, its not conservative or liberal. Its about following the constitution versus inventing new rights and creating them out of whole cloth. Thats not true. This is not a dog whistle to social conservatives, its about the rule of law, which makes all americans more safer and prosperous in the long run and thats real conservatism. Thats the right answer, but as you and i both know it is the right answer. Because he said. You and i agree and conservatives agree and centerright people agree about the role of the federal government, the role of the executive, we have problems with this executive and we think hes overstepped the bounds and the letter of the constitution. However, there are a couple of issues, social conservative issues, you talked about trans issues which isnt going to be a part of the constitution. This will go through the congress, which is part of the constitution. We act through the congress, the Congress Makes our laws, not the executive branch. However, there are these social whenever you talk about abortion and life, this is intended as a Political Tool to motivate social conservatives. Hold your thought. I want to hear more from you, jeffrey, because youre the expert, but we have to get a break in. When were coming right back, donald trump meets with Henry Kissinger. What happened behind closed doors . And what ivanka trump has to say about her fathers behavior towards women. 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There are a lot of people in this country who think the states should not be allowed to ban abortion. There are a lot of people here who think the constitution should protect equal rights for gay people and for transgender people. And by embracing legal conservatism so emphatically and so clearly, you risk losing votes as well as gaining them. Turning some people away. You believe that vast majority of the electorate i dont know about vast majority, but i know that these are not necessarily political winners for the Trump Campaign to be known as the antiabortion candidate. In the just in the general electorate, you know, obviously, there is a strong possibility for that. But it also, i think, shows you a lot about how much the Trump Campaign feels like they have to really shore up their conservative base. Theres a general election message here, too, thats very important, which is that crime is rising in major cities all across the country. That the Second Amendment is a huge issue for conservatives. And americans reject abortion on demand, as just this sort of unfettered concept, where you can have a bible i think i know where youre going. The Second Amendment is never going away not if donald trump is elected. Jeffrey, will these things ever change . You bet they will. If you switch d. C. Versus heller you think the Second Amendment gun control used to be constitutional. Now its unconstitutional. Abortion rights have been hanging by a thread for years. I stand corrected, then. I didnt think that they would states are all but banning them in the south and texas and louisiana, mississippi are passing laws that are forcing basically every Abortion Clinic in those states to close. That is a change. Now, whether its good or bad is up to everybody to decide. But certainly, the laws have changed. Well, stephen, finish. Go ahead. I mean, if you go to the American People and say, do you want judges who are going to invent fake Constitutional Rights for criminals . No. Do you want judges who will overturn d. C. Versus heller and the right to own a private gun . Theyd say, absolutely not. They say, do you want judges who will upthoeld president obamas illegal executive amnesty, they will say no, no, and no again. Because you are asking them ridiculous questions. Thats not what these cases are about. Well that is what the election is going to be about. I know this is going to sound, again, going back to the dorkfest were having over here. It matters. I mean, it matters so much and, again, you know this better than anybody, maybe, no more so than this year, where its not hypothetical whether or not the next president is going to pick somebody on the Supreme Court. Its real. And its going to be immediate and its the seat that tips the balance. It is so real and so tangible on so many issues. Lets move on now and talk about foreign policy, because he met he paid a visit to the former secretary of state under richard nixon, Henry Kissinger. Can you tell us, dana, about that meeting or why now . I think its fascinating that donald first of all, the logistics of it, that donald trump went to pay a visit to him. Its a sign of respect. You know, hes in his early 90s. 92, 93, and hes an icon among republicans in foreign policy. You know, and if you are somebody who wants to get a better sense of the world and get a better sense of policy, who else are you going to meet with other than kissingkissinge . Now, kissinger has said a few things, maybe not outright concern about donald trump, but noting very explicitly, how unusual it is for somebody who has no government experience to be this close to getting the presidency. I want to talk about because hes been really, you know, on the defensive this week, talking about taxes, talking about north korea, his treatment of women. Today his daughter, ivanka, was forced to defend her fathers behavior towards women. I want you to listen to this. My father is not a groper. Its not who he is. And ive known my father, obviously, his whole life. And he has total respect for women. It has been said that publishing this list today and also maybe the release of, you know, how much he is worth was to sort of move the news on, away from his treatment of women. Does anybody here agree or disagree with that . I can categorically say thats not true. But like i said, this has been months in the making. And i do have to say this, because i will not even be able to go to bed tonight if i dont say this, which is there is absolutely a Supreme Court case that will decide whether or not we have borders anymore. And the American People will vote for borders and theyll vote for donald trump. Okay. Now you can sleep tonight. I dont know what okay. Im not even were glad that you can sleep tonight. Go ahead. I think the kissinger meeting was incredibly important. Donald trump clearly trying to communicate that hes willing to be schooled up on foreign policy. I think nobody i mean, everybody goes to donald trump, but donald trump went to kissinger, which is like dana said. I think it was a gesture that he needs to get briefed. Hopefully he got why no u. S. President has ever talked to or met with the chairman of the working Peoples Party of party of north korea. Theres a very good reason. You dont sit down with the chair of north korea, because north korea has made many, many promises about Nuclear Weapons and hasnt met a single one of them. Continues to test Nuclear Weapons in defiance of the sixparty talks and the deal, of the many, many promises theyve made. And to be part of a civilized world and a civilized society, a world of nations, theres its unfathomable that this individual has so little understanding of International Foreign policy. Okay, so, ive got to run. But you mentioned Henry Kissinger in that meeting. It didnt mean that you didnt think that the women thing wasnt important, that ivanka i think that ivanka is one of donalds best female surrogates and she needs to be on the trail every single day. The womens issue for donald trump, do you think thats as big a deal i think its going to be an incredible achilles heel for him in the general election. Tomorrow, chris cuomo sits down with Hillary Clinton, at 1 00 p. M. Eastern. Tune in for that. When we come right back, Bernie Sanders about to speak to a cheering crowd in california. He says hes staying in the race until the last vote is cast. But whats his endgame here and could it hurt the democrats can . Well be right back. Working my canister off to clean and shine. And give proven protection. Against fading and aging. He wont use those copycat wipes. Hi. Doing anything later . The quiet type. I like that. Armor all original protectant. Dont be dull. The call just came in. 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Well, i think were confident that hillary will come out on top, but the fact of the matter is, in terms of the actual delegate race, were really only talking about a difference of one or two delegates and in the long run, im not sure that will have much difference in terms of what the nomination looks like longterm. Bob, this was sanders back on the campaign trail today after his win in oregon. Lets listen to this. And we have had to take on the political establishment. In every state, in every state that we have run in. We have had to take on democratic governors and senators and members of congress and mayors, literally, almost the entire democratic establishment and in state after state, the people have stood up and helped defeat the establishment. Bob, is this exactly the type of language that causes chaos, like what happened on saturday in nevada . Well, partially, but just reminds me of will rogers old line about im not a member of an organized party, im a democrat. You know, the idea that somehow theres an establishment that has rallied around Hillary Clinton, yes, theres individual campaign or elected officials and others, but the idea that somehow a fix is in here to get Bernie Sanders is something that doesnt happen in the Democratic Party. Frankly, i wish it did. But, you know, the for the clinton campaign, this going on week after week is a problem. Because she needs to turn her attention to donald trump. Whoever would have thought that trump would have had the ability to turn his attention to her, before she got to turn her attention to him. Thats the problem. Nina, i know you want to respond, but this is perfect. Im going to read this and then you can respond. Because this is the Washington Post editorial board, posting this tonight saying, mr. Sanders denies reality when he tells supporters he still has a plausible pathway to the democratic president ial nomination. But passion cannot trump reality. It also cannot excuse violence, threats, and attempts to mob rule. It is past time for mr. Sanders to be honest with his supporters before they take the campaigns irresponsible ethos to greater extremes and thereby help ensure the election of donald trump. Is the Washington Post right . Is Bernie Sanders denying reality, nina . Not at all. And newspapers and editorial boards do not decide who nominees are, whether its the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. The people get to say. And senator sanders has said hell be in this race from the Convention Since the beginning. I dont know why anybody is acting surprised. The senator has been saying what hes been saying all along, that he is going to be in this race until the convention. And another thing, don, i was in that room, i was in nevada. Im not the monday morning quarterback. Folks who are talking about stuff that they dont know about. And while i was in that room for at least for the eight hours i was in the room, there was no violence. There was no mob rule. People were upset. Senator sanders supporters were upset about the way that they were being treated. And they voiced their feelings in a very democratic matter. But for folks to continue to try to malign the support of senator sanders was wrong. Youre not denying there was some violence . Because its on videotape. What violence . There was no violence in the room, when i was in the room for eight hours. There was no violence. What violence . What about what were showing right now on television . Any what violence . What violence . What about what were showing now on television and the video that has been shown of people throwing chairs and Barbara Boxer saying she felt threatened, she couldnt get the crowd under control, and that she actually made a number of phone calls to senator sanders, he finally returned her phone call, and she asked him to get his supporters under control. Are you denying that . I was in the room, don, when senator boxer gave her speech. Now, folks shouldnt have been booing her. Senator sanders does not he said that thats not justifiable right there. Everybody has a right to speak. But there was nobody storming the stage. There was nobody throwing chairs when i was in that room. People were it was intense. People were outraged because of a vote that went on, that was unfair towards senator sanders supporters. But let us not forget, those were caucusgoers. This was not a rally. These were people or excuse me, these were people, you know, at the convention. They were delegates for both the senator and also for the secretary. But there was no violence. Nobody stormed the stage, when i was in the room. Bob, go ahead. Nina, i dont nina, i dont understand what the end game is here. I can understand bernie wanting to go to the convention and have a platform fight. He certainly is do you agree with the Washington Post, bob, that hes denying reality . Yes, he is. Of course hays denying reality. Ive counted delegates for seven president ial races. And theres no way, barring her getting indicted by the justice department, which i dont think is going to happen, even if she did, she still has her delegates. And i dont understand why bernie, in the face of i mean, i dont care who it is, but were talking donald trump here. Anything, anything that takes away from a united Democratic Party, going after donald trump is an imaginary effort to do something that i do not understand. Except for bernie to understand the limelight. Guy, whats your response to the Washington Post . You know, i think theres a shortterm i think theres a shortterm and a longterm point to be made here. You know, the shortterm point is that these are the same rules and the same procedures that have been in place in the Democratic Party for quite some time. In fact, to be honest, theyre the same rules that were in place when president obama defeated senator clinton at the time in 2008. But i think theres a longer term interest here. You know, family fights are often the worst type of fights, because when youre in the middle of it, the last thing you want to do is to admit that youre going to love the person at the end of the day. And nina and i both know that regardless of what happened, its going to take a lot of hard work and actually a little humility on both sides to bring our party together, to support the eventual nominee, because your last two segments have demonstrated whats at stake. Donald trump announced today that one of his potential appointees to the Supreme Court believes that gay people are like those commits bestiality of pedophilia. He wants to nominate a potential Supreme Court justice who wants to allow doctors to essentially harass women that are considering an abortion. There is a lot at stake in this election. I know its heated. I know that there are words going back and forth. But i am confident that we will bring our party together, that we will unite against donald trump, because we understand what is at stake in this election. Okay, since the Sanders Campaign shut down the Nevada Democrats convention on saturday, there is increasing tension between his campaign and the dnc. I want you to listen to what van jones told my colleague, Brooke Baldwin today about Debbie Wasserman schultz. When shes silent in the face of repeated accusations that her people on the ground, who she may not even know, are doing bad things, makes it seem like shes in on the deal. Shes not in on the deal. So you have a situation where you have a leadership failure in partly both wings of the party. Zbl you are the first person to say that. Uh may have a leadership party. And debbie who should be the marriage counselor is coming in harder for Hillary Clinton than she is for herself. That is malpractice. Reince priebus was my party chair. He did a better job of handling the trump situation than ive seen my party chair handling this situation and im ashamed to say that. Bob, a Quick Response from you. So van meant business today. How do you think Debbie Wasserman schultz has handled not only what happened this week but also the primary season in general . First of all, yes, shes a quick person. Thats no surprise to anybody. But, look, is he the other guy said that these rules have been in place for a long time. They were in place when i was doing president ial races. But heres the point. It was a week ago that we were concentrating on donald trump trying to bring the Republican Party together and how fractured it was. That was a big plus for us. We had amazing talking points about that. And we had trump on the defensive. Now, one week later, because of this ridiculous process in nevada, now all of a sudden, the democrats are the ones in disarray. Why in the world should we go through that . Bernies got to sit back and think to himself, do i really want to make it easier for trump, which is exactly what hes doing. Thats going to have been the last word. Coming up, Mark Zuckerberg meets with leading conservatives after charges of hiding conservative news stories. Cnn s. E. Cupp was there and joins me next. And an Early Morning mode. Ode. And a partly sunny mode. And an outside. To clear inside mode. 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Com offer5 facebook with 1. 65 billion monthly active users around the world under a microscope ever since allegations surfaced last week that the site suppressed conservative news stories. A tech blog published stories from anonymous former contractors who said they saw colleagues hide stories that are trending on facebook, stories about republican politicians and other conservative news. Facebook is now investigating. And today, the ceo, Mark Zuckerberg, sat down with 16 conservative commentators and leaders, including cnn political commentator, s. E. Cupp, and she joins us now. Hello, s. E. Hello. Explain what happened today. Well, it really was an open and honest dialogue. Mark and the Facebook Team did less of the talking than we did. We shared some of our concerns. We asked questions. They were forthright in their answers. And we talked about ways that we could, um, make this less of an issue, if an issue at all. And ways that we can work together, as conservatives and Silicon Valley in the future. So, what were your impressions . Did you were they open to your suggestions . Whats your impression . Yeah, you know, there was some speculation that this would just be sort of a photo op, to put a bandaid on a pr problem. And that was just not the impression i got. I got the impression that the idea that some points of view in this instance, american conservatives, would be suppressed, is such an anathema to both zuckerbergs personal philosophy and the philosophy of the mission of the site and the company. Something that would be completely counterproductive to their business model. So, i didnt doubt the sincerity at all at the meeting when the Facebook Team was telling us that this was something they were concerned about. They knew was a problem. They are looking into it. They dont want it to happen again, and they are open to our suggestions on how to prevent it. And learn from other, you know, learn how to prevent, prevent the general perception that there is a liberal bias, both at facebook and in Silicon Valley. So, im a facebook user. Im not sure if you are. I know youre no stranger to social media. I am. Do you are you saying that theres possibly that theres unconscience bias that Mark Zuckerberg, and you know, theyre not even aware of it, because thats just sort of the system that they operate under. They dont even know that theyre being biased. Well, um, i dont know that i would put it that way. Basically, you know, facebook and their platforms are heavily reliant on algorithms. And they really try to be a neutral, a neutral platform for all kinds of ideas. And that is central to zuckerbergs philosophy for the company. But, because humans are behind some of this work, there is always the capacity for and the potential for some bias. Now, that bias doesnt have to be sinister in nature. It can come from a simple lack of exposure. Right. You know, one of my suggestions was that, you know, you can address certain biases, just by exposing people to other kinds of conversations. It doesnt have to be that people who work at facebook dont like conservatives. It might just be that some of the people that, you know, work at facebook, havent met any. Thats kind of what i meant about unconscious, that theyre not even aware about it. Did they describe how this algorithm works . Yes, in language we can understand, so not very deeply. And basically the takeaway was there that the algorithm itself makes it pretty hard to inject personal bias. And yet, because there is human involvement, of course, that can happen. And what im interested in, what i got the impression that facebook is interested in, is making that as impossible as we can. And thats going to not just require a fix for the moment, but going forward, new ways of looking at this problem and new ways of tackling it. Okay, heres what Mark Zuckerberg. After a meeting today, he posted this and said he wants to help build trust with conservatives who are concerned about bias. He said, the reality is, conservatives and republicans have always been an important part of facebook. Donald trump has more fans on facebook than any other president ial candidate and fox news drives more interactions on its Facebook Page than any other news outlet in the world. Its not even close. So given that the case, that this is the case and the next president ial election is happening and what you did today and theyre trying to work on their platforms, do you think that this is important and this will change with this election coming up . You know, i hope so. I know theres a sense in some conservative circles that, you know, meeting with facebook was sort of just kowtowing to their pr, to their, you know, to a photo op. And i just fundamentally think that thats a pretty juvenile way to look at it. Youre invited to help solve a problem that you think is a problem and you can be part of the solution, why wouldnt you . I think it is important. Look, what i tried to express and convey in this meeting is that conservatives in Silicon Valley actually share a lot of Common Ground on many issues from security to privacy and regulars to free markets. And Silicon Valley needs an advocate for those policies in washington. And conservatives need to be that sadvocate. Likewise, conservatives need a platform and facebook and twitter and instagram, those have been incredible platforms for people like me over the last decade. So we need to be working together and finding places where we can collaborate. This is an impediment to that. And so we need to get past that. But i was pleasantly, you know, reassured that that is in their interest, too. So im not just looking shortterm, lets fix this problem. Im looking longterm, how can we make Silicon Valley a longterm partner with conservatives, to both bolster our platform, but also our policies. S. E. Cupp, thank you. Interesting meeting. Appreciate you joining us. Sure. Coming up, Hillary Clintons campaign turning out ad after ad, attacking donald trump, but are they doing her any good . Well discuss that. Ient is the main ingredient. The new Green Goddess cobb with avocado, bacon, freshly made dressing, tomato. And chicken. At panera. Food as it should be. Wannwith sodastreamter . You turn plain water into sparkling water in seconds. And because its so delicious, youll drink 43 more water every day. Sodastream. Love your water. I like the bride more than the groom. Turquois dresses. So excited. Did all her exes get invited . No ones got moves like uncle joe. Should i stay or should i go . When its go, book with Choice Hotels and get a free 50 gift card for staying just two times. Book direct at choicehotels. Com. 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So this is the second video in a week where they have hit trump on this. This issue isnt going away. Do you think its going to impact him . Well, first of all, im going to im going to give you a little secret that a Media Consultant is not supposed to say on national tv. But, tv political ads have less of an impact in a president ial race than almost any other race. And its because you get to know the candidate so well, you see so much of them, that 30 seconds is rarely going to have that big of an impact. Whats interesting to me, though, is where the clinton people are going. Theyre hitting him on both the taxes and also hitting him on some of the statements relative to women. And to me, thats two completely different audiences. Which to me is a little bit confusing, why theyre doing that. Im also not sure im in love with the sort of, sort of fun music they put in there, because i think it takes away from some of the gravitas of the issue. So i really dont think any of this new information for most people, and probably isnt going to have a tremendous impact, i dont think. You know, i noticed that when it was playing. It was a little too cute by half if you were talking about serious issues to have that in there, and the facial expressions and all of that. Cayl Kayleigh Mcenany says he shouldnt release them. Truth to that . I think theres anyone out there who doesnt think that donald trump makes a lot of money. I dont think theyre sitting there going, how much does he give to nonprofits and so forth . Thats not why people are supporting donald trump . This is a completely different election. Its not about him personally. Its a movement where he happens to be a loud megaphone that they like. They like the authenticity of him. I always say, you know, people say, why doesnt donald trump a little bit more president ial . Why does he say what comes out of his mind. Thats whats appealing to most of his supporters, that hes not just reading off a teleprompter, and theres no reason that he should follow all the same rules that other candidates have done by releasing tax returns and other things. He doesnt need to follow those rules. John, there is also this priorities usa, the prohillary super pac, which is already spending 6 million on antitrump ads in key battleground states. This has already gotten a lot of play. Watch this. You know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes. Blood coming out of her, wherever. Does she have a good body . No. Does she have a fat ass . Absolutely. Do you like girls that were 51. They come up to you know where. If ivanka werent my daughter, perhaps id be dating her. I view a person who is flatchested to be very hard to be a 10. And you can tell them to go [ bleep ] themselves. Does donald trump really speak for you . Priorities usa is responsible for the content of this advertising. Which is more effective . Hitting him on taxes or using his own words against him . I would grade this ad on particularly four different things. Are we talking about it . Did they get secondary press out of it . The answer is, yes, you and i are having this conversation. You just played their ad for them for free. Lets give them an a there. The music kind of bothered me. I thought it took away from the gravitas. Lets give them a b. The third thing is, is it relevant . If you watch what clintons doing, her supporters, the president , theyre targeting republican moderate women, an area that trump has to do better to win, and thats who this is targeting and i think that was smart. The final thing, though, is theres a part of the ad at the very end that was taken totally out of context. It gave donald trump a way to criticize just one part of the ad, to discredit it. Its important to note that this was a super pac ad. Its easy to get super pac ads taken off the air for being inaccurate. So they lose a lot of points by stretching on this one. And i think that was an unforced error. John brabender, thank you. Always a pleasure. Thank you for having me. When we come right back, donald trump says he is worth even more than 10 billion. Does that add up . My belly pain and constipation . They keep telling me drink more water. Exercise more. I know that. Try laxatives. I know. Believe me. Its like ive. Tried. Everything my chronic constipation keeps coming back. I know that. Tell me something i dont know. vo linzess works differently from laxatives. Linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation, or chronic constipation. It can help relieve your belly pain, and lets you have more frequent and complete bowel movements that are easier to pass. Do not give linzess to children under 6 and it should not be given to children 6 to 17. It may harm them. Dont take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. 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