Theyre not republicans or im not. But its not from todays campaign. Its from 1964. And thats not the only weird parallel between a long ago election and todays campaign. Lots going on tonight. Lets begin with cnn National Reporter maeve reston. The antitrump force is gathering steam. But it is too late . I think thats the big question here. As we look ahead at the next couple of months, they had such a short amount of time in which to pour a ton of money into defining this candidate. Everyone is trying to figure out whether the attacks that led up to tuesday night worked at all or if they just didnt have time to sink in. So this is a Big Conversation going on right now among donors, among people within the party about whether or not to keep those antitrump dollars rolling in, and whether theyre actually working and where they can be most effective. Maeve, a lot of Establishment Republicans turned their nose up at ted cruz. They said the day he endorsed cruz and the poison and said he would raise money for him, is that the measure of a desperation to stop trump right now . Yes, it is, i think. There is a lot of desperation out there to stop trump. Just talking to political strategist others the last couple days. Everyone right now is hitting the books, trying to understand the delegate rules in each of these states, whether or not if they can deprive donald trump of that 1,278 number. Whether they can support their forces at the convention. Everyone is studying 76 and other times when theyve gotten close to these kind of cataclysmic moments for the party. So its just a big moment for the Republican Party has to figure out whether the risk is greater by allowing donald trump to be the nominee, or if theyre going to risk completely fracturing the party by going up against him at the convention. Of course im sorry. Go ahead. Marco rubio he and ted cruz still would like to win outright, which would save a lot of trouble for the party. But its looking tougher and tougher for that to happen. Again, pardon me for that. Marco rubio, he suspended his campaign. But he is still speak out. He told reporters today there is still time to stop trump. He is also talk about his own political future. Lets listen. Would you consider being cruzs Vice President . No. Im not going to be anybodys Vice President. Im not interested in being Vice President. I dont mean that in a disrespectful way. Im not going to be Vice President. Im not running for governor of florida. Im going to finish out my term in the senate over the next ten months. Were going to work really hard here. We have some things we want to achieve, and then ill be a private citizen in january. Maeve, you know how these things go, despite what he says do, you think were going to see a cruzrubio ticket or a rubio endorsement . We very potentially could see a rubio endorsement pretty soon. The thing that he has to balance is his own political future going forward. Whether what point it makes sense for him to really get in. But there is going to be tons of pressure on rubio because, of course, he has delegates that he has won for the course of these contests. And right now kasich and cruz would like to sweep up all of those people, as well as other rubio supporters in future states. So well have to see what he does. I think, you know, there is not a lot of love for ted cruz, as weve all been talking. But everyone thinks that its just a very, very narrow path for john kasich to the nomination. So well have to see what happens. Speaker of the house paul ryan continues to field questions about the possibility of becoming the nominee in the event of a contested convention. Lets listen to that, maeve. Its not going to be me. It should be somebody running for president. People are out there campaigning. Theyre canvassing there is caucuses and primaries. Thats who we should select from among for our next president. Didnt he kind of Say Something similar about being speaker of the house . Do you thank you he could be persuade. Right. But this is a whole different ball game, right. You have to think about. Youve been to these trump rallies as well. Youve felt the electricity in those crowds, how much passion and support there is for donald trump among the people that are supporting him. And the fact that were even talking about paul ryan being drafted, you know, as the republican nominee, or any other number of people is just, you know, another crazy mindblowing moment in this cycle. But the question is how much of a backlash would there be toward the party as all of these Republican Party elders continue talking about other alternatives. Right. As trump says. What happens to his support, right . Could there be riots do you believe, as trump says . Well, i think i think that there definitely would be protests. I spent a lot of time in florida over the last week at his rallies, actually talking to his people about what they would do if the Republican Party tried to block him at the convention. And a lot of them said i will be all in. I will do whatever it takes to help this man get elected. Weve seen violence, very unsettling moments at a lot of trumps rallies. So, you know, at this point, anything is possible. And the party has a lot to think about how they keep everything under control at the convention if you do end up with a contested convention. Maeve reston, i appreciate that i want to bring in hugh hewitt, the host of the hughhewitt show. You doing okay . Good evening, mr. Lemon. How are you . Its good to see you. Im doing great. The establishment is in an all out frenzy plotting to take down donald trump. It too little too late . Well, donald says he is the great unifier. He has brought ted cruz and Lindsey Graham together. So i guess he is right. I think what youre going to see now is that it is not going to be speaker ryan, its going to be donald trump, ted cruz or governor kasich. Of the three as i step back, i havent endorsed anyone. Im not in favor or against anyone, i think ted cruz is likely to be the nominee. Because all of the forces that are coming to bear right now on donald trump are institutional. And strange things have happened. When you have Lindsey Graham step out in favor of ted cruz and yale wins an ncaa ii basketball game, its just a matter of time until the klingons hit the earth. Its such a weird set of circumstances. But the institutional best interests of the Republican Party seem to point toward a ted cruz nomination. I think he is going to win in utah next week, even though donald trump is probably going to win arizona. Ted cruz is making a quick trip to arizona to go down to the border next week. That means his people might think he has a chance to pull it out. A rubio endorsement would help that might come as early as tomorrow, according to marc caputo, who is reporting for politico. So there is a lot of moving parts out there. Watch scott walker, within of the most influential republicans. One of the early leaders in this scramble for the presidency. He withdrew with dignity with his Political Capital intact. And the wisconsin winnertakeall primary is going to be sort of the make or break it day for ted cruz. I think hes got to win up in wisconsin. A lot of things i want to talk about. You know how it is in television, a as you do in radio. We have limited time. So if you could get through them quickly. Im interested in what youre saying. You said its pointing towards a ted cruz nomination . Did you just say that . Yeah. I look ahead. If you lock at three stocks, dont tell me what they were valued yesterday. Dont tell me what they were valued last year. Tell me what theyre going to be worth in ten weeks when we get to california. And i interviewed today mike schroeder, who is the past chairman of the california Republican Party. He wrote the rules in 1998 as to how californias republican delegates will be allocated. And mike kicked them in 2006. So no one would have any question of selfinterest. And it works this way, don. You win three delegates for every Congressional District that you win. So the Maxine Waters district with maybe 3,000 republicans in it gets three delegates. Dana rohrabachers Congressional District with a quarter Million People gets three delegates. So youve got 54 elections out here. 172 delegates total. And if people want to read that interview, send them over to hugh hewitt. Com. Ill pretend to be a president ial candidate. Shameless. That interview is fascinating. A shameless plug for information. I dont see anyone except the stock that is rising right now is ted cruzs. I think donald trump has peak and will stay the safe. But right now i see cruz rising. Okay. I got you. John kasich has been reluctant to criticize trump. Have i the glasses on because i want to read this. He responded to the riot remarks. He tweeted this. Okay. Donald trump said there could be riots if he is denied the gop nom in a contested convention. Thats more unacceptable language, john. He said this up implicit insistence of violence of rhetoric is pulling people aapart. Leadership requires responsibility. I have faith the American People want civilized debate over violence. Its whats kept our nation the strongest in the world. Do you think were going to see a war of words now between donald trump and john kasich, hugh . John kasich is a very experienced politician. Id add, don, in ohio, im an ohioan. He is an ohioan. We have memories of violence in kent state. I have a very vivid memory that of day. My cousin was on the campus. The idea that violence would attend political demonstration is anna theathema to buckeyes. He wants to keep lines of communication open. Its unfortunate that donald walked a way from the next debate. I think we need more debates. And everyones got to remember that we dont talk about violence and political speech in the united states. So i salute the governor for saying that. Im sure donald trump will tone that back. He doesnt want violence. Im sure thats very obvious. But the key thing is kasich went to utah, which is kind of interesting since mike lee has backed cruz very heavily, and cruz is probably going to win the state. Kasich may be trying to keep him under 50 . But if you do the math and get way in the weeds, there is a question whether or not rule 40 will even be prone because cruz people and rule 40 is how many states you got to win to get nominated. Cruz people and trump people may Work Together to keep cruz from being nominated. And then all those unbound delegates after ballot 1, what happens to them . Great piece by zeke millner Time Magazine today. Its a rodeo. Its a rodeo without rules. And we havent seen it before. I want to ask you about this group of faith leaders and fiscal conservatives that met today to try to come up with a strategy to deny trump the nomination there is talk of unmasking trump in ads. The strategy to target delegates and even turn them. Even the possibility of a third party unity ticket. Does any of that sound like its going to be effective, or it is even realistic, hugh . Just won florida despite 15 million in ads against him. Oh, its not realistic, although it is realistic for people to signal where conservatives are. Mike ferris who is in that meeting, one of the most respected conservative educator out there. Erick erickson is my colleague on the radio waves. Very well respected tea party originator. Theyre all signaling vote for ted cruz. Im not doing that on my show. Its still belgium before the wars. I dont know who is going to invade it, but theyre all welcome there. What is happening is i think there is a signal there. What happens tomorrow, i think if marco rubio comes out for ted cruz and other people follow Lindsey Grahams lead, youre going to find the natural centerright, right Alliance Coming behind ted cruz because he is more electable in her eyes than donald trump. Hugh hewitt, always a pleasure. See you soon. Thank you, don. Happy st. Patricks day. You as well. When we come back, the gop at war with itself as antitrump forces battle the frontrunner. Is there a new republican candidate waiting in the wings . With my moderate to severe ulcerative colitis, the possibility of a flare was almost always on my mind. Thinking about what to avoid, where to go. And how to deal with my uc. To me, that was normal. Until i talked to my doctor. 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And now you can use zip recruiter for free. Go to ziprecruiter. Com. The move by conservative republicans to stop donald trump from getting the nomination becomes more urgent by the day. Many are banking on a fight at the convention to knock him out. I want to talk about this gop race with cnn political commenter jeffrey lord and margaret hoover. Jeffrey joins me via skype. Nonetheless, well try to talk to him as well. And happy st. Patricks day to you, don. Happy st. Patricks day. Im wearing green, but youll have to figure out where it is. Any way, reince priebuss insists a nominee will be in place soon and there will not be a brokered convention. Is he right, margaret . He is nobody knows. The sort of hook that everybody is hanging their lat on who is not a trump supporter is this outlier possibility. And it is an outlier possibility still. Right. Donald trump has to win slightly more than 5 of the remaining delegates. Ted cruz would have to win 80 of the remaining delegates. 50 is not that hard, is it . No. Hes winning every segment of the population, every sort of Demographic Group within the republican cohort. So, you know, from my perspective, and im not a trump supporter the way jeffrey is, i just think we got to get rounded in reality here. Our time to stop the trump train was months ago. Okay. Im glad you said that. Why is everyone kind of sitting here and saying oh, this happened, this happened. We pretty much know whats going to happen. Because people like me who worked in politics who thought the Republican Party was for certain things are horrified that weve let this person, who is not even by any stretch of the imagination a republican, let alone a conservative, right in the front door and is going to drive the train away from the station. Theyre still this denial about it. And now jeffrey is going to tell me im wrong. It is kind of denial. Were sitting here pretending like its going on trump. The nominee could be cruz. It very well could be cruz. But if things are going the way theyre going, it looks like its going to be trump. Jeffrey, no . Just from a historical perspective, i looked back at all the races since john f. Kennedy in 1960, in every single case the guy leading going into the convention became the nominee. There are no exceptions to this. And thats in both parties. Whether it was jfk or Barry Goldwater or nixon in 68, Hubert Humphrey in 68. On and on and on. Gerald ford beat ronald reagan. The law of averages here is pretty much on the side of donald trump. You just basically said what we both were saying. What is the likelihood a of a new candidate being introduced a brokered convention . I think thats even lower. A contested convention is not outside of the house. You even had paul ryan today, the speaker of the house who is also the ceremonial chair. Even though he says it wont be me, he acknowledges there is this pocket that donald trump doesnt get to the 1,237 beforehand, in which case you do have to have a contested. Convention and multiple rounds of voting. In that case, it has to be somebody who has run for president. He says of course its not going on him, but it seems incredibly unlikely. So its got to be somebody who is in. Who else could it be . Couldnt be anybody else . The only other person is paul ryan who could potentially do it. Even as an ardent paul ryan supporter and fan wouldnt want him to do that. Because the Republican Party as fractured as it is right now, we dont have talking about going back and looking at history, we dont win as a party if were not unified. We just simply dont and we are not unified now. I would hate for that to happen to paul ryan or any of these candidates. Not only will it damage the party, it will damage the person who is running. Before you respond, jeffrey, i79 you to listen to donald trump on cnns new day. Here is what he had to say about the possibility of a brokered convention. I think youd have riots. Im representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people. In many cases, firsttime voters. These are people who never voted because they didnt believe in the system, they didnt like candidates, et cetera, et cetera. If you disenfranchise those people and say, im sorry, youre 100 votes short, even though the next person is 500 votes short, i think bad things would happen. I really do. I believe that. I wouldnt lead it but i think bad things would happen. So a lot of people upset about the riots. We have heard for a number of days. Do you think people are putting too much stock in those words . Yes. I was with magazine rhett last night and ive said this. Ive been on panels on andersons show where more or less a number of people on analysts and commentators alike agreed there would be an open revolt, if he got close, if donald trump got close and there was some scheme to basically steal the nomination. There would be a problem. And my answer was if this were like 1976 with reagan and ford, where reagan genuinely lost by 117 votes on the convention floor, thats one thing. If it becomes like 1912 where Teddy Roosevelt was accusing the other side of theft and stomped out, yeah, big problem here. You dont want to go down that road ever. And frankly, it doesnt matter whether its donald trump or anybody else who is within a hairs breath of the nomination. Thats just not a good place to be. Margaret, were you disagreeing that people are putting too much stock in it . Its the choice of words, the riots and the continued pugilistic language in an environment that is like a tinderbox and it is incredibly irresponsible, i think, of donald trump to continue using language that it really suggests that he is provoking violence and almost sounds like a veiled threat. I want to get this in real quickly, jeffrey. Lindsey graham had a dramatic change of heart. Watch this. If youre republican and youre donald trump and ted cruz in the general election the difference between poison or shot, youre still dead. If you kill ted cruz on the floor of the senate and the trial is in the senate, nobody would convict you. Im going to be doing a fundraiser for senator cruz. Hes not my preference but hes a reliable republican conservative, which ive had many differences with. I doubt Donald Trumps conservatism and i think hed be a disaster for the party. So im going to try to help raise money for senator cruz and the community. Boy, and i thought the News Business was a strange business. Now he is hosting a fundraiser for ted cruz on monday. Go ahead. There is more to the story. There is more to the story. When we were in las vegas for the cnn debate, senator Lindsay Graham approached me personally and said he could never under any circumstances vote for ted cruz and that he would be more than happy to support donald trump. Now, here we are, you want to know why Lindsay Graham lost the South Carolina primary and why anything he says has no credibility . I mean, he told me that he didnt lose the South Carolina primary. Well, hello, there is you go. He looked me right straight in the eye and said he preferred donald trump over ted cruz. Now hes saying exactly the opposite. Heres what really quickly, though. Look, Lindsey Graham doesnt think ted cruz is going win the presidency. But what he does want is for the Republican Party to not be blown to pieces. 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Its defense. Bae systems. A political ad going viral on social media, its from 1964, but there are eerie similarities to todays gop race. The ad is called confessions of a republican supporting Lyndon Johnson in the battle against republican senator Barry Goldwater. Joining me is william bogart, the actor featured in the ad. Welcome. Thank you for coming on. Its very kind of you to have you. May i call you bill . I wish you would. Were going to may the entire ad. Lets listen to it. I dont know just why i wanted to call this a confession. I certainly dont feel guilty about being a republican. Ive always been a republican. My father is, his father was. The whole family is a republican family. I voted for Dwight Eisenhower the first time i voted and nixon the second time. But when it comes to senator goldwater, now it seems to me were up against a very different kind of a man. This man scares me. Now maybe im wrong. A friend of mine has said to me, listen, just because a man sounds a little irresponsible during a campaign doesnt mean hes going to act irresponsibly you know that theory, that the white house makes the man. I dont buy that. You know what i think makes a president , aside from his judgment, his experience, the men behind him, his advisers, the cabinet, and so many men with strange ideas are working for goldwater. Youll hear a lot about what these guys are against. Seem to be against just about everything. But what are they for . The hardest thing for me about this whole campaign is to sort out one goldwater statement from another. A reporter will go to senator goldwater and say senator, on such and such a day, you said, and i quote, blah blah blah, end quote. And goldwater says, well, i wouldnt put it that way. I cant follow that. Was he serious when he did put it that way this was he serious when he didnt put this it that way . I just dont get it. A pat ought to mean what he says. President johnson, johnson at least is talking about facts. He says, look, we got the tax cut bill and because of that you get to carry home x number of dollars more every pay day. We got the nuclear test ban, and because of that there is x percent less radioactive in the food. But goldwater, often you cant often i cant figure out what goldwater means by the things he says. I read now where here says a craven fear of death is sweeping across america. What is that supposed to mean . If he means that people dont want to fight a nuclear war, hes right. I dont. When i read some of these things that goldwater says about total victory, i get a little worried, you know . I wish i was as sure that goldwater was against war as he is against other things. I wish i could believe he has the imagination to be able to just shut his eyes and picture what this country would look like after a nuclear war. Sometimes i wish id been at that convention in san francisco. I wish id been a delegate, i really do. Because i would have fought, you know. And i wouldnt have worried so much about party unity. It you unite behind a man you dont believe in, its a lie. I tell you, those people who got control of that convention, who are they . I mean, when the head of the ku klux klan, when all these weird groups come out in favor of the candidate of my party, either theyre not republicans or im not. I thought about just not voting in this election, just staying home, but you cant do that because thats saying you dont care who wins and i do care. I think my party made a bad mistake in san francisco, and im going to have to vote against that mistake on the 3rd of november. Vote for president johnson on november 3rd. The stakes are too high for you to stay home. Interesting. What a performance, first of all. That guy was terrific. That guy is you. Does that take you back . Do you remember the day did you that . Oh, yes. I remember. There are some things that i dont remember. One of the things that i was talking about before i think i mentioned it to christy, and i just mentioned it to rachel. As far as i know, and i may be wrong about this, this was only shown once, but it made a tremendous impression. And youre talking to christy and rachel. Those are my producers that youre talking about. Based on that ad, you came from a republican family. You did that because not because you were an actor but you believed that. Yes. But unfortunately, the last republican i voted for was john lindsey. Really . Yes. Because in those day, of course, the Republican Party was the party of lindsey, of jacob javitz, people like that, to a somewhat lesser degree nelson rockefeller. Now i feel about almost all the current nominees the way i felt about mr. Goldwater. No, worse than that. Because senator goldwater was a very good senator. He did a lot of good things, he was a blessing to the people of arizona, and i dont see that. Why do you say worse now . In that ad you said this goldwater scares you. You talk about the Political Climate then. What about the Political Climate now . How does that scare you . Its worst. Worse than goldwater . Yes. In goldwaters time essentially the only major threat that we had was russia. And russia has had all the same reasons for not going to nuclear war than we did. Now we got isis, weve got i cant remember the names of all these al qaeda, isis yeah, yeah. And a lot of them are producing suicide bombers. Give a suicide bomber a hand grenade, thats one thing. Give them an atomic bomb, thats another thing altogether. A lot of people are saying trump scares them. Does he scare you . Yes. Why . Because i think his ego is essentially uncontrollable, and that means that he could be badgered into something that would be truly outrageous and very unfortunate. The ads you refer to the 1964 convention, you talk about the kkk and other extreme groups, we just talked about that, about other groups. Did it bother you when trump seemed to waffle . He said he denounced them. When he seemed to waffle about the kkk, did that bother you . Yeah, a lot. I dont understand why i dont understand how he could be more dismissive of the guys that were running against him than he could be against the head of the ku klux klan. It just doesnt make any sense. What are the parallels between goldwater and trump that you speak of . Well, first the ku klux klan. Second, the he said trump. Trump said that he would bomb the bejesus out of isis. Well, goldwater never said he would bomb the bejesus out of russia, but the implication was always there. You say in the ad if you unite behind a man you dont believe in, its a lie. What a great line. I wish i had written it. Do you think thats something that the republican delegates should consider now . You betcha, my golly. Everyone is saying im still going to vote for, no matter who our nominee is. Wrong why is that wrong . Because the country is more important than either party. And you have to, as long as you have the right to vote, i think you have the obligation to use it in a way that you think is going to be best for the country. And i dont see any way, as successful as mr. Trump has been, i dont see any way that he could be a great force for the country. William bogert, bill as you said, thank you for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Im very flattered. When we come right back, the gop was a house divided in 1964. But are things even worse today . Hi im kristie and im jess and we are the bug chicks. We are a nanobusiness. Windows 10 really helps us get the word out about how awesome bugs are. Kids learn to be brave and curious and all kids speak the language of bug. Hey cortana, find my katydid video. 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When this confessions of a republican ad first surfaced, many people thought it was a fake made to look real. But its not. It is so relevant to today. Its so relevant. Some of the lines youd think were written today. The thing about not voting for a guy you cant believe in, the thing about the ku klux klan. Its just remarkable. Id never seen this ad. I didnt know it existed. I was amazed by it. He said if you unite behind a man you dont believe in, its a lie. Thats profound. Right. It seems every republican has to make that decision. Today Lindsey Graham comes out and supports cruz. And i wanted to say well, if he doesnt make it, will you support trump if you called him a bigot, a misogynist, a racist . Carl, you heard him say that america had just lived through the assassination of john f. Kennedy. American was grappling with the threat of nuclear war. What was americas frame of mind back then . We had just gone into the vietnam war and goldwater was saying we should possibly consider use be Nuclear Weapons in vietnam. And Lyndon Johnson very effectively used that against goldwater and also goldwater was a very principled man through his whole career, and he was an ideologue, unlike donald trump. He was an ideologue of the right. He had written conscience of the conservative, the conservative bible. And he was the head of this new movement. Do you see the similarities now in the Political Climate between then and now . No. Because i think donald trump is an authoritarian. He is not an ideologue. He is not a principled man in the way that goldwater was. I think the similarities are that there can be a very rancorous convention at which there are forces that would like trump not to be the nominee, just as there were forces that wanted goldwater not to be the nominee and tried to impose after governor rockefeller lost the primaries to goldwater, they tried to make governor scranton of pennsylvania an alternative to goldwater. And they failed. But no, i think that the times are different. I think the people are altogether different. But bill, in this ad, though, you heard bogart say that he scared him, right, that goldwater scared him. He also said i cant sort one goldwater statement from another. Thats another thing. One day he says one thing. Another day he says something else. Does that sound familiar . It does. It sounds like the same criticisms you hear about trump. I agree with carl. Its a different kind of thing. Goldwater was a very functioning, political veteran, he was a senator and had all this background. Trump is a wild card, very unpredictable. So i can just hear it now. The social media and Trump Campaign saying is it really fair to compare donald trump to Barry Goldwater . No. Im sorry. Go ahead, bill. Some people would say thats unfavorable to compare him to goldwater. Some people would say thats unfair to goldwater. Go ahead, carl. Let me go back to goldwater being a principled man. Goldwater led the opposition of his party to Richard Nixon and eased Richard Nixon out of office and told nixon that his crimes were too many and that he would lead the Republican Party against nixon in a senate trial. All together different. Donald trump is about donald trump. Hes not about any political philosophy. Hes not about anything but his own objectives. And that is one of the reasons why people are afraid of him, not because, yes, theyre afraid of him with his finger on the Nuclear Trigger obviously, but not because of his ideology. Bill, before you were saying, goldwater won the nomination easily. I want you to listen to a key moment of his acceptance speech. I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no bias. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue. So, bill, those words alienated moderate republicans and likely cost him the election. Trump has said many outrageous things, nothing seems to stick. Nothing seems to stick. What is interesting is this ad basically played on that and said to people this guy is scary. We got to stay away from him. Amazing. Everyone remembers the daisy ad. This ad was more sophisticated than that. This one basically brought home a child is going to be blown to pieces. It was emotional. Much more visceral and emotional. The ad we played today which i was totally unaware of was a sophisticate, very cogent argument very well made. Its interesting to watch all of this now. I dont remember the time when it played. But i remember people playing it years ago during elections. Right. I have to Say Something that Carl Bernstein interviewed Barry Goldwater by ham radio back this the day. It was the twitter of his time. You were ahead of your time, Carl Bernstein. That morning, the morning of that speech, goldwater had taken his ham radio equipment as a hobbyist and i interviewed him over ham radio. Its hard to believe. Youre so young too. I think he was 2 years old when it happened. Thank you, gentlemen. I appreciate it. Coming up, the end of the world as we know it . Will the gop establishment be singing that tune at their convention in july . My office needs new laptops at a great price. Well, staples has low prices and a price match guarantee. I took a body language class once and the way youre standing could mean youre hiding something. Oh uh, staples has low prices. Okay, now youre shouting. [laughing] we can hear ya the lowest price. Every time. Staples. Make more happen. 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I like to believe that well come together. But i think look at the very legitimate open question. Its a very raw political moment. Will we pull together behind a nominee and beat Hillary Clinton, who i think is very beatable. The one thing that is very destructive to that end, don, is all these people who are saying ill never vote for cruz pfeffer he is the nominee, and all these people who are saying ill never vote for donald trump if he is the nominee. Both sides have to realize one of these men is going to be our nominee. Okay, matt, but its a little bit hoth odd. One must admit you have this guy who has the momentum, who seems to have a clear path to the nomination. Yet most people in the party are saying, no, not that guy, hes not the one why not, you know, coalesce around your guy, you know, some sort of unification, get behind him and say, all right, lets do this . First of all, most of the people who are voting or at least these pluralities in these states are voting for donald trump. So i know there are people in the beltway and washington who are having a visceral reaction against donald trump. Lets face it. There is if youre winning. I dont know if some of these people took math in common core but he seems to be leading in delegates and that impactful. Theres a chance he could get to this minimum number of delegates before cleveland. We have some big states still before us. But if not, look, i would encourage all these candidates, ted cruz, donald trump, john kasich, leave it all on the field. Go claw at each other. Go fight as hard as you can. But when we get done, it needs to be neverhillary, and not never one of these guys. Thats a mistake for the republicans. So will there be riots if donald trump doesnt get the nomination . You know, don, sometimes at political conventions you need tear gas outside the conventiha. I wonder if well need it inside. I think those words are unfortunate. I dont think he meant that. It would be extraordinary for the person that is leading in the delegate count to actually not end up getting the requisite number of delegates. We havent seen that happen for 100 years. Ford reagan is our big controversy back from 1976. Ronald reagan came into that Convention Just behind gerald ford, about 100 delegates short. And he didnt end up getting the nomination. Thats the typical way things roll. It would be unusual didnt everyone think in the Republican Party that that was a mistake then that reagan didnt get the nomination . Well, all of us conservatives certainly wanted reagan to get it. You got to follow the rules. He didnt get it because there was a bargain with the mississippi delegation, which a lot of people still talk about. Here is the thing. Its got to be open. Its got to be transparent. And donald trump has to get to this minimum number. And those are just the facts. Since romneys defeat in 2008, the gop has been trying to reach out the minorities, to be more inclusive. Do you think donald trump has undone that effort or done at least major damage to it . I think autopsy is wrong. Still alive there is different voices. And you know, conservatives with Barry Goldwater were sending a very ideological message to washington about the size and scope of government in our lives. What is happening with donald trump and ted cruz is theyre sending the message that they want to up end the order of things. And so its a slightly different message, but its still incredibly important, and its very threatening to people who are used to be the insiders and making all these decisions. So your question on the autopsy. Does this mean that donald trump cant win a general election . I think people who are saying that are thinking about it all wrong. When you have a certain alignment, certain givens will not take place in 2016 as expected. I think donald trump is going to reach out it different voters than the Republican Party has ever been able to reach out to if hes going to get the nomination. Matt schlapp, always a pleasure, thank you. Thanks, don. When we come back, why some people fear donald trump may be one of the top risks to global security. We needed 30 new hires for our call center. Im spending too much time hiring and not enough time in my kitchen. announcer need to hire fast . Go to ziprecruiter. Com and post your job to over 100 of the webs leading job boards with a single click. Then simply select the best candidates from one easy to review list. You put up one post and the next day you have all these candidates. Makes my job a lot easier. announcer over 400,000 businesses have already used ziprecruiter. And now you can use ziprecruiter for free. Go to ziprecruiter. Com offer5 what barack obama is saying about Hillary Clinton and bernie sanders. This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon. The president urging democrats to come together behind one nominee if they want to stop donald trump. But as bernie boyne concedes missouri to Hillary Clinton, does the senator from vermont still have a path to victory . Plus, Donald TrumpsForeign Policy adviser is donald trump. Th