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Crave. But you really should know about it. The frames depict what appears to be a bomb being constructed and a potential bomber dripping up his jacket over a bomb strapped to his body. And scenes from areas like times square and Herald Square in new york. We are awaiting a new york conference with the nypd tonight. Also with us is john miller. He is going to be live in studio with me. A lot to get to. Back to anderson now. Anderson, last night around this time, that dramatic raid began. What have we learned and who do authorities believe they have captured or killed . Eight people have been taken into custody from that particular raid and cell. Seven men, one woman, as you know, another woman blew herself up after having a short exchange with police. And one other person was killed as well. We dont know the identity of the second person who was killed. The woman who blew herself up was related to abdelhamid abaaoud. He may be here in paris or this morning might have been here in paris. That is a startling development in this investigation. An investigation, don, which as you know, has been moving extremely quickly. Law enforcement authorities saying that cell phones found with some of the suicide attackers and the killers on friday night helped them start to piece together the links between these groups and try to work out the time line also obviously the vehicles that were found here in paris that were used during the attacks on friday, that also brought them to belgium. The investigation is moving quickly but there is a lot to figure out and testing dna to determine whether or not this alleged ring leader was killed in the attack or if he was even in that apartment, that is yet to be determined. Anderson, lets play this video. You have this video of the raid. Let play it and then well talk about it. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. What are officials telling you in what have you learned about this video that we just played . That is believed to be an exchange between police and the commandos who took part in the raid early this morning and the female suicide bomber. They asked her about the whereabouts of what they believed to be her boyfriend, she said twice hes not my boyfriend and then she detonated that suicide device. So a very dramatic, short exchange between them in this raid that took place in the Early Morning hours here and was incredibly dramatic raid not only for people in that neighborhood but for everybody in paris shocked to see it wasnt just the eight or nine attackers who were known on friday night, but this entire other group of people who authorities now in france say were planning yet another wave of attacks here. You know, its amaiding to watch that video and listen to what theyre saying. 4 30 in the morning this started when we went on the air last night. Stand by. Atika you were on the scene last night. Tell us what that was like. It was a tense and fluid situation. They had Tactical Units on the ground and military soldiers who formed a perimeter around the operation. But this was an operation that was serious and sustained. It lasted for several hours. The shooting itself lasted for about 20 minutes. When we got there, it was just after the shooting had stopped. And a little while later we started to hear this round of explosions, six or seven. And i believe now those were the controlled detonations that were set off by the police as part of the raid once the gun battle really had finished. But it was extraordinary to see. Not only did we have the s. W. A. T. Teams and the military soldiers, we had the Investigation Police in the crowd of journalists and residents with masks on looking into our faces. They seemed to be searching for accomplices among the crowd. It was a tense and dramatic night for everyone there. Residents and media included. Atik, could abdel aabaaoud have been in paris . His picture had been in the media for several days. He had been identified as one of the possible ring leaders by authorities here. There were conflicting reports on the ground in the neighborhood whether or not he was in fact there. But it is a shocking development. He was supposed to be in syria, in raqqah a few days or weeks ago. It is possible he was here. His family called in saying he had died in syria. Intelligence believes he faked his own death so he could travel to europe. He was believed to be based in belgium but its easy to cross the border. There are no Border Controls. But very shocking to hear he might have been living in the heart of paris hiding in plain sight. Great coverage over the last two hours. Well see you soon on cnn. Lets get to debra live in times square. We are awaiting the News Conference by the nypd. What does this new isis video show, deb . Well, this new isis video once again puts new york city right in the crosshairs. The police know it is a likely target and they have taken steps to beef up the security they can. And it has a lot of footage of french president Francois Hollande and he declared war on isis. They are using bites of his from speeches from the last couple days. But within the video there is some information, for example its clear that isis wants to attack not only britain but also the United States. And theyve got three ways that they aspire to do this, a car bomb, a sharpshooter and also a suicide belt. And its the suicide belt once that video comes up, you see the letters usa in the corner of that video. And one bomb, they show them making it, it does have ball bearings and that is a huge concern to authorities because ball bearings is what is in the Boston Marathon bombs and that caused maximum damage to so many people. The Police Commissioner will be here with his team to send the message that new york is safe and there are a lot of messages in place to protect it. Heres what he said a little earlier. As we go into this critical six weeks in new york with thanksgiving event, Christmas Tree lighting, all the christmas festivities and millions upon millions of tourists, we have never been better prepared to deal with all of that. And that is fortunate, there has probably not been a time since 9 11 when there has been so much concern. And so, don, look, behind me, this is times square. It is still very, very busy. A warm november night. And you know, in a couple of weeks youre going to have new years eve and the ball drop here. The nypd knows how to handle that. They have so much security during those events but it is a concern and thats why they have these specialized teams they are going to deploy, about 100 offices and heavy armor, heavy weapons, well trains and they will be able to respond extremely quickly. So in the event there is some sort of a threat or some sort of an attack, they can be on scene almost instantly. Thank you. And next week we have the macys thanksgiving day parade. A lot of people coming to new york for the holiday and to shop. There is concern about that. When we come back, five syrians caught with Fake Passports in central america. Where were they headed . And the nypd top terrorism official john miller weighs in on the threat against new york as we wait for that News Conference in times square. The future belongs to the fast. And to help you accelerate, weve created a new company. One totally focused on whats next for your business. The True Partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. 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Isis claims speedometer for attacks in paris, beirut and bombing a russian jetliner out of the sky in egypt all in just two weeks time. We are joined by graham wood. He is with us via skype. Paul cruickshank says that isis is moving up the gears in terms of international attacks. What is your assessment of that . For a long time. Isis was saying that international attacks were a bad idea. When al qaeda had september 11, had a few days of glory and then an invasion and lost its base. And obviously it seems to have changed its mind. They have turned their strategy around and now they seem to be focusing on that. And the reasons for that are unclear but they will be interesting to find out. Speaking of strategy. What about the authorities, the investigations, how are they going to get the eight suspects they arrested last night to talk . So theyll have to try every means at their disposal. You know, they have obviously, a pretty wide intelligence network. There are just a lot of suspects out there. Theyre going to try to find out who those people know. They are going to ask them nicely and try to figure out what nfgts they can glean from their cell phone records and travel records and see what they can find out. We dont know who they are or who they know. But obviously for france, this is a matter of immediate and grave importance. So there is a lot of resources that will be focused on getting information from them. Abdelhamid abaaoud, would you classify him as a mastermind . A ring leader, either of the two . Hes being described that way. He certainly seems to be at the center of a lot of networks of belgian and french fighters. Again, though, you have to keep in mind how many of these people there are. There are thousands of people with french and belgian nationality and passports who have gone to fight for the Islamic State. If you get one person out of the way or one person and his network out of the way, there are probably quite a few left. Help us understand the psychology here. Are they different from serial killers or mass shooters, for example . Serial killers, mass shooters, terrorists, they, in some ways are a diverse group. They are people who are simply dissatisfied with the world and go out with a bang. What we find with a lot of isis people, not all, is that they have a positive view of the world, too. That is, there is something they want to build not just something they want to tear down. A lot think the Islamic State is a fulfillment of their religion and gives them purpose in their lives. They think the person that gives them purpose in their lives is telling them to go and blow up people in a concert in paris, theyre going to do it. Thinking of a few thousand people in mind is a sobering tlougt. If abaaoud has been killed. There is no confirmation if he has or has not. If he was killed in that attack is that a blow to isis european operation . It is. But you know, martyrdom is his goal, of course. So killing an individual is it has some downside. It doesnt have that many pluses other than they wont be able to kill again. What they have been able to do is to strike fear into huge numbers of people not just in paris but also in new york. They have achieved a Great Success with what theyve done. Paul cruickshank says that these were extremists who turned to islam, rather than islamists who turned extreme. There is a view that some people have is that they go to their religion and read their holy books and they find it says in their holy books they have to go to syria and fight. Its a simplistic point of view. They will find things they are predisposed to think. What they often have in their past is a long history of rebellion, of being petty criminals, for example. You find a long pattern of things that have gone wrong, ways in which theyve been violent or misbehaving and they channel it in this direction which obviously has huge consequences geopolitically and otherwise. Isis sympathizers, that has been the strategy of isis in regard to foreign attacks for a long time now. Theyve said, its great, absolutely do attacks overseas. You have our blessing and you have our praise for it. But were going to inspire you to do that, were not going to help you plan. Were not going to give you weapons. Thats really the change that weve seen. Those attacks tend to be small. They tend to kill small numbers of people, if anyone at all. Now, this one, there was a great deal of planning and expertise that went into it. The organization itself must have given its help with planning and execution of this plan. Graeme, we learned that isis claimed to have killed a chinese and norwegian national. What do you know about this . What we no is only what isis has told us. There were two men who were they were advertised as for sale by isis in the last issue of the previous issue of dabiqing me magazine. The newest issue of that magazine came out today. And on one page you see unfortunately what looks like the bloody corpses of both of them and it says they have been executed. Terrible. If the world, graeme, unites against isis, will these attacks have backfired . You know, in some ways, isis wants an attack. They have been talking about this for ages, that they expect in fact they are certain its going to happen. And they want to goad the west into an having an attack and a disastrous battle between muslims and crusader christians. Im not so sure, for one thing, that they would actually like the results of a full assault on their territory. But on the other and, it is possible for them to cause the west to do things that are not in the wests interests, you know, tensions are very high. The blood is hot. And Foreign Policy decisions made in this context have a tendency to go wrong. I think having some caution is probably wise. Graeme wood, contributing editor to the atlantic thank you very much. Isis threatening a possible suicide bomb in new york. We away a News Conference in times square tonight. Romantic moments can happen spontaneously, so why pause to take a pill . And why stop what youre doing to find a bathroom . With cialis for daily use, you dont have to plan around either. Its the only daily tablet approved to treat erectile dysfunction so you can be Ready Anytime the moment is right. Plus cialis treats the frustrating urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. Tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. Do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. Do not drink alcohol in excess. 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Take us inside Law Enforcement right now. So this is an old video that was kind of rehashed. These are some stock images, a catch from the internet and news kootage from the paris attacks and they dusted off a video we saw back in april and gave it a new beginning and a new end. So this is isis doing what isis and al qaeda and terrorist groups do which is propaganda. They had the attacks on friday. They pumped out a new issue of dabiq magazine with new stuff to promote the paris attacks. The video is part and parcel of that propaganda effort. This is new york city. We have the most complex layered Counterterrorism Program of any Municipal Police department in america, if not the world. We spend a lot of time thinking about this and planning around these things. So, don, when we see the video, we make note of it but its like a lot of the videos weve seen. It doesnt mention new york city specifically but it shows images of new york city which is troubling as well. So let me ask you, 400 new counterterrorism officers in new york city now. They were deployed as part of 1400 new officers on patrol. Give us an idea of this additional manpower and is this something the commissioner is going to talk about tonight . This is a redesign of the Counterterrorism Program. The Critical Response Vehicle Program was made up of borrowing a police car in every precinct and putting them in critical positions to have a police presence. They werent specially trained for counterterrorism in particular. And if you look at the overlay of an mumbai attack or Charlie Hebdo attack or paris attack on friday they were not equipped to deal with that. They were a police presence. What weve done since it is clear that that program and presence isnt going away, is to revamp that into dedicated officers who are briefed on the intelligence and the threat picture, who are armed with long weapons, the same kind you would confront an active shooter or terrorist with, who have the heavier body armor who are prepared to go in with the active shooter training. It is taking new york city Police Departments game to another level in terms of confronting this problem. If you are doing this, preparing for the worst, shall we say, thats what you do, right . To be prepared all the time. How concerned should new yorkers be, people who are visiting, what is the concern . The question is could it happen here . The answer is it could happen anywhere. The answer is really, rather than spending time worrying, we spend time planning. Rather than spend time being concerned we spend time studying. What did they do it in tunisia, or in paris last week, what was their plot in london . We game all those, we field exercise them and table top them. In a few days were having an active shooter exercise alengedly carried out by role players playing the role of terrorists in new york city. This was set up a long time before any of this happened. But this is part of a continue y continuum for us. We want to get to it immediately and put it down as quickly as possible so you dont have a situation where it goes on for a long time. But how do you prepare for someone or some people who are willing to blow themselves up . You prepare just like this, is you have brave, dedicated, highly trained, properly equipped officers who are willing to go after those people, even at their own peril. You told me before you work with people in other countries. You are working with people in france. The commissioner has told me that this socalled leader, abdelhamid abaaoud, if he was killed in the raid last night, how do you think that affects going forward, isis, and even here in the United States, what may be planned for other places . I think if he was killed in the raid, isis will find another operational commander who can take his place. One thing we have learned through the Drone Program and other things as a country, everybodys replaceable. But i think what weve seen is an interesting change for isis or isil in that this is no longer about recruiting people on the internet and asking them to go shoot somebody over twitter. This is about bringing in a number of people who are already in syria, who are already hardened foreign fighters who had some professionalism and discipline under a commander who had already plotted a different plot, managed to escape from belgium and sneak back into western europe and run this operation. So this is a change of paradigm also. We saw the attacks on friday and what happened at the stadium in germany. And the airline, whether it was a hoax last night, two planes. The raid. Are we in permanent high alert in the United States . Especially new york city . New york city has been on heightened alert since 9 11. We are on high alert right this minute. But if you are on high alert, all the time you can get alert fatigue, so to speak. Given the world events we have watched that up a couple of notches. You can see that in the street. Part of that is to reassure the public. Part of that is to counter the threat. I mentioned the planes and everything going on. The suspicious packages all over the subway, every where you see if you see something, say something. Law enforcement, are you in a position of having to respond to every single threat, you know sending everything you can get to that threat . Don, thats the doubleedged sword. Im not complaining. When we set that idea that we are in a heightened alert, we expect from the public that that thing they might have called about, but they are going to call that time. We are getting more calls and going on more runs and looking at more suspicious packages and checking out more suspicious people. But that is what were looking for. And thats what we do. Youre going to be at this News Conference tonight . Yes. Is there anything you need to tell us before . I think what youre going to hear at the press conference is a little bit about the forward planning and the preparation. But i think its as much, don, about dealing with some of the drum beat of times square being shown in an isil video which has happened many times before, to show that the mayor and the Police Commissioner and Police Officers are all out there and we are not a city that goes by threats, lives under threats or hides. People will go about their daily lives and come to their times square an their Police Department will be with them. We stand with paris. Were new yorkers and thats how we are. We know you have to get there. We appreciate you joining us live. When we come right back, if isis and the west are at war, who is winning . Quiet mom has a headache had a headache but now, i. Dont. Excedrin® is fast. With 2 pain fighters, plus a booster, excedrin® ends headaches fast. In fact for some, relief starts in just 15 minutes. Excedrin®. Wow, that was fast. Presenting excedrin® geltabs. Fast headache relief. Thats even easier to take. Try excedrin® geltabs. Also available in migraine. Engineering and coordination to hit the perfect shot. At quicken loans, the same is true for mortgages. Quicken loans home buy. Refi. Power. Official mortgage sponsor of the pga tour. Dont you want to rent your own donapartment . E credit. Sure. Turn on the electricity . Yeah. Get a new cell phone . Definitely. Well thats credit. Credit karma. Yeah. First step, credit karma. Awaiting a News Conference from the nypd. It should happen any moment. We will take you there as soon as it happens. Those are live pictures of times square. Isis attacks have happened more and more and become more and more brutal. But what are they trying to accomplish . Joining me is mike rogers, nichol Nicholas Kristof. Thank you all so much for joining us this evening. A sober conversation with john miller earlier. So my first question is to mike, you listen to that interview with john miller and look at the events over the last week. If we are in a war between isis and the west, who is winning right now . Well, certainly isis has had some tactical victories and theyve done something pretty important for their terrorist credentials. They have been able to pull off very sophisticated operations. Its not easy to get into france undetected, let alone be able to put together bomb makers and get vehicles and do other things and get on target and have that event go off as planned. Thats a very difficult thing to do and its that level of sophistication and all that planning means they had a tactical victory. Same with bringing the plane over the sinai, killing the russian tourists and same with getting folks into lebanon and getting those bombs to go off on target, killing 46 people. So it is they are having a series of tactical victory, strategically were nowhere close to losing. But that is an important part of why they have gone to this Psychological Campaign with the videos in new york. We are only showing just a couple of frames of that video. But it shows images of times square and Herald Square. That are trying to affect us psychologically. Whether this works or not for isis depends on what they do and our reaction. Isis is trying to create a backlash in the west, in europe and in america against the muslim community, to create a greater divide, to create a sense of alienation and an t anninga an this is what al qaeda did in iraq. And i agree with nick. They even wrote about it. When the raid happened in pakistan they find documents of an al qaeda leader who wrote a memo about this. He said we should terrorize, brutalize and use it to divide the nation, us and them, muslim against christian, we can recruit more and galvanize the cause and excite our base and create more recruitment. So we can push for an overreaction by the west that can invade and occupy and absolutely use force against our people and we use it. This is what they use in their propaganda video. They use that for the west to threaten the west about new york. But what they are using to recruit people . They are using the children in iraq in gaza and other places. Its called management of savagery. Even in the wake of what happened in paris, france is going to take 30,000 people. But they may one of the suspects may have come in through the process as a refugee. You say that might have been on purpose. We know there were five french nationals and one bell began national. One person was carrying a fake syrian passport, carrying it to a massacre. How would that benefit isis . To create a backlash. If the nationals leader is the leading contender for the french presidency, that benefits french radicalism. Five syrians with fake greek passports were trying to make their way from honduras to the United States. Does the u. S. Have the Border Control to stop that kind of entry . Obviously, mexico is a very porous border. We have seen the iranians use operations a few years ago to try to smuggle guns, weapons, and people in to do an attack on the saudi emambassador in washington, d. C. A few years ago. We have seen the Russian Intelligence Services for years have used the porous southern border. We have that border and over other nations know it. Its not surprising to me. I think in honduras they had some 13,000 individuals who came to honduras trying to go up north that they intercepted to get into the United States. This is five but there are thousands more to try to use that southern border to get into the United States. Do you think it feeds into a bigger isis narrative or plan . Absolutely. This is the biggest propaganda gift to al qaeda and i would say to isis. When you tell them the syrian refugee who chose the west. They didnt choose to live in an Islamic State, its a slap in the face of isis, who actually in their website and their magazine, actually was very upset the fact that the syrians decided to live outside in europe and embrace the nation of crusaders. They were upset about it. What our gop candidates are doing is playing into the hands of isis. But isis is not only trying to manipulate our policies, they are trying to communicate to the muslim world one thing. There is a war with an islam. This is what they are trying to say. And the muslims are trying to tell them we reject you and the french citizens who are saying today over and over, we chose or camp. So in order the police state and to crack down on, actually, the communities will create a bigger backlash. They dont need the refugee to come to america. They dont need a passport. They dont need a visa. They can come easily. And the worst part of all of this, the policy that was put in place for the last is a years has produced radicalization. Stand by. When we come back a new poll finds that more than half of americans dont want Syrian Refugees in the u. S. Were going to talk about that next and take you to times square for a News Conference thats going to happen with the nypd. Live pictures of times square. Well be right back after this break. The pursuit of healthier. 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I want to bring back Nicholas Kristof and rula jabril. 53 of adults polled dont want the 10,000 Syrian Refugees that the u. S. Is planning to bring here. It has said they stake only 28 say it would be okay. And 11 say they only take the christians. An idea that president obama has said is shameful. Is this surprising . This almost matches a poll in january of 1939 of whether or not to admit 10,000 mostly jewish children into the u. S. It was two to one saying no, we shouldnt. And in retrospect we acknowledge that was a shameful period in u. S. History. You had a boat load of American Jews who arrived in the u. S. And we sent them back to europe to be killed. At the same time today when we have people in such dras prat need, to turn our backs misunderstands the security situation. When it says only let the christians in, does this say racist. Its islamaphobia. Are we as open as we like to think we are . Whether its mexicans or or jews back then. Its shameful. But im sorry to say, some leaders will exploit any tragedy to score political points. They are weapon nicing fear. Our policy has been driven by fear for the last 15 years. Its time to stop that. I never heard the gop condemning the people behind the radicalization in the world. But there are those they are willing to take it with a syrian refugee and not with the biggest exporter considering what happened in the world, what happened with the airliner and in paris they want to make darn sure that the process to screen individuals is as stringent as possible. Its a twoyear there a concern about security. The threat does not come from refugees. There have been more than 700,000 refugees brought in since 9 11. Three have been arrested for terror related processes. They are not going to send them in on a refugee visa. Do we know that . Yeah, it takes look at the hijackers of the airplanes on september 11 terrorists. They were on student and tourist visas. 15 of them came from our country ally number two, saudi arabia. We need to question these policies. If we want our children for the next 15 years to live what paris lived in these days we need to continue repeating the same policies in place for the last four decades, backing tyranny and but you are talk about winning hearts and minds, changing the behavior that. Not only that. Im fine with a military solution. But they have to be native boots. You want your muslim ally to fight with you. They are bombarded by sunni majority in syria, they see assad as the threat. Saudi arabia is not fighting isis they are fighting the houthis in yemen. You have to talk to your ally in terms of what they have to do with their policies. When they oppress their own people they will create an environment that is fertile forred wefor radicalization. The focus on refugee is the wrong focus. Does someone want to wait that long . People dont hear that. They just see a refugee, one or two may have come over to paris in that process. People dont hear none of them came to the passport that was found is a fake passport. I want to talk about this. This is from the raid that took place in the Early Morning in paris. [ speaking foreign languag ] language ]. So what you hear there, you hear there is a female suicide bomber and you hear her saying hes not my boyfriend. And some of the people in the neighborhood in saintdenny may have known about the suspect being there but were afraid to report him. Two things, female suicide bomber and the fear of actually reporting, fear. Well i think its unusual to have a female suicide bomber. Its not completely unprecedented. Boko haram has used women. Its unclear whether they have real agency or a suicide vest is strapped on them and they are sent off to be blown up. What i want to say about the use of women and i think theres a basic issue of radicalization in some societies in europe which is made very easy because of the exclusion. On the margin of society you have these kids who find isis appealing. What alternative are we offering . The only time we went against al qaeda in iraq when we separated the sunni minority from al qaeda and that was the surge. We have to go. A great conversation. Thank you very much. We have to get to the press conference at the top of the hour. A Live Press Conference in times square with the new york city Police Commissioner. Well be right back. W company. One totally focused on whats next for your business. The True Partnership where people,technology and ideas push everyone forward. Accelerating innovation. Accelerating transformation. Accelerating next. Hewlett packard enterprise. At t and directv are now one. Which means you can watch in the house, in a treehouse, or even in miss pepperpies house. 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In new york an isis video warping of an attack potentially targeting times square. We are expecting a News Conference from the nypd that will happen at any moment and well take you through it. In paris, investigators trying to comb through evidence to see if the raid killed the leader of the attacks or if he is still on the run. Atika shubert is in paris for us. What is the very latest there . Well, the latest is they are still sifting through the aftermath there of that raid trying to figure out exactly who was killed. Now, according to belgian authorities and our belgian affiliate, they believe that the woman who detonated her suicide vest was the cousin of abdelhamid abaaoud, the alleged ring leader of the attacks. The question is was abaaoud himself in the building . To answer that, paris authorities and authorities in france will be doing dna tests to try to determine if he was one of those killed. He was not one of those arrested. Atika, do officials thing there was a rolling series of attacks being planned . What they have said is that this is a team that had the capacity for an attack. And clearly the fact that at least one of them, the female suspect there, had explosives indicates they were prepared to act very soon. But in terms of what kind of an attack, do they have specific targets . French authorities have not given out that information. Abaaoud is somebody who is noun for plotting numerous attacks in europe. So its certainly a possibility. Atika shubert thank you very much. I want to get to debra in times square. We spoke to john miller here, gave us a brief account of what the commissioner is going to talk about. The new officers, one thing, who are out on the streets right now ready for the holiday rush. Yeah, absolutely. As a matter of fact, we can see some of the tactical officers who are here. Theyve got the longuses, the assault rifles and they are heavily armored. The message that the new york Police Commissioner wants to send is that the city is prepared and ready and willing to act in the event something does happen. The Police Commissioner will be coming out to comfort people or let people know that they should continue to go about their daily lives. The Police Commissioner is going to be coming out in about 60 seconds. The new video does shed additional concern. Everyone knows new york city is a target and the exception with isis, they aspire to hit the city. There are videos of times square and the shopping area at Herald Square. And, look, you know something might happen you take precautions to make sure it doesnt. New york city is ready. Washington, d. C. Has been warned. But you know, the isis fighters, they have three ways of attacking according to this video, thats car bomb, its sniper, the sharpshooter, and the suicide vest. And in that video you see someone putting the bombs together. And in one of them, one does have ball bearings. Thats a big concern. Deb, behind us, we see the mayor coming up and the Police Commissioner. Here is mayor bill de blasio of new york city. As you know, a video was released earlier today by isis portraying scenes of new york city, portraying scenes of times square where we are now and Herald Square, in an obvious attempt to intimidate the people of new york city. Im here this evening with commissioner bratton and other leaders of our Police Department and the men and women of our department who patrol times square to make very, very clear that the people of new york city will not be intimidated. We understand it is the goal of terrorists to intimidate and disrupt our democratic society. We will not submit to their wishes. The people of new york city, as you can see right now are going about their business even at this late hour. I want to encourage all new yorkers to continue to go about their business normally. Its important to note that there is no creditable and specific threat against new york city. Nypd has been working very, very closely with the fbi and our other federal partners and i repeat there is no specific and credible threat against new york city. So its crucial that people go about their normal business recognizing the nypd is providing extraordinary protection for the people of the city. 35,000 members strong and just in this last week, we initiated the first wave of our Critical Response command which will grow to 500plus officers specifically dedicated to antiterrorism activities. These officers who have been assigned in the last months, will be specifically trained, equipped, and armed to handle any terrorist threat. They will be part of our overall efforts of the nypd to prevent terrorism in coordination with our federal partners. The people of new york city can rest assured that extraordinary efforts are being made every single day to keep them safe. This is the finist police force in this nation for 14 years since 9 11 the police force has consistently protected the city against terrorist threats and it will continue to do so. I want to say one other thing before i turn to commissioner bratton. We remind all new yorkers that we can depend on the nypd. And at the same time, every resident of this city can help the nypd. We have a phrase, if you see something, say something. That phrase is very meaningful. If you see something you think is suspicious, a package left unattended or you hear information you believe the nypd should have, please immediately call 911 or alert a police officer. That kind of information, those leads could be very, very helpful to nypd and help them do the good work they do. With that, im proud to introduce our commissioner, bill bratton. Thank you, mr. Mayor. Echoing the mayors comments that there is, as we have repeated frequently, no city in america that is better prepared to defend and protect against a terrorist attack. We work tirelessly to ensure that, continuously upgrading our systems. The events of today that have raised concern, there is nothing new about that video. New york, obviously, remains one of the top terrorist targets in the world. That video, our review of it, it looks like it has been hastily produced. It is a mismash of previously released video. We believe its a compilation of videos going back to one in august that was directed against germany, one in october directed against israel, and 19 seconds of about a five and a half minute video released today had scenes of new york. In new york, we understand that we are a terrorist target. It reflects the importance of this city. Understanding that this city places great importance on the safety of new yorkers and the almost 60 million visitors who will come to this city. As we move into this time of year of great celebration and great activity in new york, the thanksgiving day parade, the lighting of the Christmas Tree in rockefeller center, the holiday celebrations that will wring millions into this city, people can feel comfortable coming into this city, enjoying themselves, celebrate, be aware, but do not be afraid. The nypd will protect you. The nypd working in close, close cooperation with the fbi and other government colleagues and with the great, great assistance of the residents of this great city that we will keep it safe. We cannot be intimidated. And thats what terrorists seek to do. They seek to create fear. They seek to intimidate. We will not be intimidated and we will not live in fear. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. Looking at live pictures again from times square and that was new york citys Police Commissioner and the mayor of new york city speaking to, really, america and the world saying that you should feel comfortable coming to new york city, especially over the coming holidays. The commissioner specifically saying, tens of millions of people will come here for the lighting of the Christmas Tree, for the thanksgiving day parade, for the holiday windows and new years eve celebrations and he said, be aware but do not be afraid, the nypd will protect you. Mayor bill de blasio says going about your business. 500plus officers will be out there specifically trained to handle situations that involve terror. Again the commissioner saying that video that we saw from isis today saying most of it rereleased portions. One was from august, which is towards germany and the other from october, which specifically targeted israel. But he said, this is again, mostly propaganda. Lets discuss this and much more. David milliband, you were able to hear that. You are used to dealing with. This you are a foreign secretary to the uk. I thought they spoke in a sober and serious way and pinpointed the aim of the video and they made clear they will not be intimidated. They are right to be out there not just providing reassurance but calling for action on the part of citizens. On a large, vibrant city like paris. We saw what happened in paris on friday. A large, vibrant city like new york city how do you protect against a parislike attack. London went through in in 2005 with the horrible bombings and attacks on the 7th of july, 2005. The first is that you have effective intelligence efforts national and international. And you get the citizens on your side. You need people to be on your side. And thats why the call of the mayor for people to work with the nypd is right. World leaders have been meeting to talk about a coordinated effort to intensify the fight against isis. We have seen the strikes on raqqah. Is more cooperation part of the answer here . Its part of the answer. I mean, obviously, you are living in a Global Village now. Just as terrorists can go across borders, intelligence needs to go across borders. But that is only part of the answer. You have a massive issue in the middle of the middle east. A vacuum in the center and east of syria that has been exploited. Isis is strong there and crossed into iraq as well. President Francois Hollande is coming to the u. S. Next week. What more can the United States do . I think that president hollande will have a twin track strategy. He wants to show his own people that he is working with the leaders of the free world, the strongest country in the world, the u. S. , to make sure there is a coordinated civilianmilt effort to try to tackle the problem at its root. And secondly he is sending a message to european leaders that its time not just to attack at the source but there needs to be proper tranz atlantic intelligence and cooperation. The political gap has seen itself in the weakness of the humanitarian aid to jordan. It has been struggling with 600,000 refugees. They have not had the humanitarian aid. You talked about politics, and you know politics always plays into it. Now we are in the middle of a president ial election in the United States. This is from jake tappers interview with Chris Christie earlier today. If the president sets up a nofly zone in syria and a safe haven in the country where folks can come and be safe inside the country there no need for the refugee crisis. The president created it by his unwillingness to act. And the only time he is not timid is when he is criticizing republicans. For the rest of the world, hes timid. Did the u. S. And western allies create this refugee we are an International Charity with 11,000 staff around the world. 2,000 are in syria. I speak to them and speak to the refugees who come out of syria. What they say, the Assad Government which is bombing the living daylight out of large parts of syria. And the second part of the peril is isis. That is driving the refugees out of the country. We have operations in greece where refugees are landing and they say life is hell in aleppo. Did the president create this situation . Look, im running an ngo, and i was i used to be in politics. I recognize politics when i see it. What i say is its important for all people in office or aspiring to office to recognize the seriousness of this channel. There is a military discussion to be had. Pleasure. Lovely to meet you. The candidates battling over the syria refugee crisis. And we know that inscription on the statue of liberty. Give me your poor, your tired, your huddled masses yearning to be free. 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And the white house said that is not practical and they note the process for allowing refugees into the United States. And the administrations priority at this point is welcoming women and children and Vice President joe biden got into the debate. Here is how he sounded off on the issue earlier in dallas. One way to make sure that the terrorists win is for us to begin to chang our value system. Thats number one. Number two, we have a real vetting system for refugees coming into the country. We can assure americans that they will be safe. For us to turn our back now, for us to turn our back now on refugees is turning our back on who we are. And Vice President biden went on to say in his view isis is not an exten circumstantial threat against the United States. President obama will be taking questions in the philippines with the canadian prime minister. They are expected to have a joint press conference in the next couple hours. Cant wait to hear what he has to say. Does it seem like the president is making any headway with his argument . Democrats have chosen an issue to argue this week. I think that they feel like within the base of the Democratic Party they can rally democrats around president obama on that issue. They know that people are quite uncomfortable with the president s strategy for defeating isis right now because of what happened in paris. Now the other issue that has come up in the last day or so is that after the paris attacks, mr. Obama is coming under criticism for refusing to use the term islamic terrorist. Here is how donald trump sounded off on this issue earlier tonight. And you know what, radical islamic testi islamic terrorism is a fact. We have a president that doesnt want to use the term. Radical islamic terrorism is a fact whether you like it or not. Its a fact. And its a very gruesome fact. Its a very, very serious problem. We have a president that doesnt want to use the term. Unless youre going the use the term youre not going to solve the problem. I dont know if he wants to solve the problem, frankly. But the president is not backing down on this fight either. As he has been saying all week long, the rhetoric like that, that you just heard from donald trump could be used as a recruiting tool for isis. The president noted that plenty of republicans including former president george w. Bush said the war on terrorism is not a war on islam and trump should follow bushs lead on that issue. But given Donald Trumps criticism of former president bush, thats not likely. But this has been a tough week for president obama and not only his strategy for dealing with isis is coming under criticism but just how to handle the syrian refugee crisis. There are not many answers that the president that is givering that is satisfying people on either side of the aisle. These are tough times for the president. Jim acosta traveling with the president in the philippines. 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Most of the gop president ial candidates and a majority of the nations governors oppose allowing Syrian Refugees to settle in the United States. Let discuss with Rick Francona, juliette and bob bair. Good to have all of you on to speak about this. Juliet to you first, it shows that 53 of americans say that we should not continue the program to settle up to 10,000 Syrian Refugees. Should we stop this program . No, we should no. I think its incumbent on those of us who believe its is right thing to do not just morally and ethically but there are security reasons for continuing the program. I need to explain how rigorous it is. The long the long runway it takes for any single syrian refugee to get here, the bio metric testing, the health establish thing, the refugee process that goes on in this country. And i think that it has National Security implications. I dont want to see the security to the other side at this stage. The one reason that the United States is relatively safe compared to france is our longterm commitment to integration and asumlation of those who are not us. We need to continue that and not target refugees as the easy solution for a harder problem. Bob, are we safer than france . I agree with juliette 100 . We do a great job at. Thats the reason we have not been attacked by the Islamic State. We are better off than the french or the germans. We have a Classless Society and its easy for arabs to integrate and go about life. That makes us safe including having the atlantic between us and them. But if the Islamic State has plans to infiltrate people, it would be easy to do. That has not been proven yet. Thats what concerns me is that some way they get around to doing it and that would change the politics in this country against refugees. Let look at the facts here, the facts show that 2200 refugees came into the u. S. Since 2011 and 50 of those are children. 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Ready or not, here i come whispers now hideandseek time can also be catchuponmyshows time. Here i come cant find you anywhere dont settle for uverse. X1 from xfinity will change the way you experience tv. We are back now with Lieutenant Colonel Rick Francona and bob baer. 91 of suspected terrorists on the u. S. Watch list who were trying to buy a gun were able to get one legally here in the United States. What needs to be done if we are going to close this loophole . We need much more rigorous enforcement of gun laws. Terrorists need weapons. Im not saying that more rigorous gun controls will solve the terrorism problem. If you can begin to tighten up their access to arms as we tighten up their access to money and to the United States you begin to solve the problem in pieces. There is no pixy dust here. There is no magic thing that were missing thats going to solve this problem. Its just layered responses. Im not sure if you were able to see the press conference at the top of the hour with the mayor of new york city and the Police Commissioner. The Police Commissioner says be aware but do not be afraid, the nypd will protect you. Its nonsense, don. Look, a military assault in new york by the same type of guys as paris, theres no way to stop it. Theyre very good and trained in the battlefield. With assault weapons, they could hit all sorts of targets in new york. By the time the nypd got there, they could do a lot of damage. I think we have to accept that fact that there is a lot of very dangerous people coming out of the middle east that would like to hit new york city. Colonel, you want to get in on this. These targets, these terrorist teams, they are almost impossible to detect because they are moving under the radar. If they are returning from syria, they have an american passport and they dont come up until they do something catastrophic. Its a problem for the nypd. Nothing against the nypd but if i was in new york, i would not feel safe. If any Police Department knows how to deal with it, it is the nypd. Thats true. They are sophisticated and they have cops or Police Officers abroad and have a separate Counter Terrorism unit, but the other thing that the commissioner said which is as key, we are all in this together. Those who complain about security going into sporting events, we have to face up we are part of this as well. Thank you very much. We appreciate all of you coming on. When we come right back, my conversation with the family whose Birthday Celebration turned into tragedy in a cafe that was attacked by terror. For the millions of americans suffering from ringing in their ears, theres no such thing as quiet time. But you can quiet the ringing with lipoflavonoid, the numberone doctorrecommended brand. Relieve the ringing with lipoflavonoid. The paris terror attacks shocked the world and shattered families. Two people were with friends to celebrate a birthday. I spoke with their family who witnessed the attack. I know that one of you was in the restaurant and it was khalid who was there, correct . Yes. Can he describe to us what happened . [ speaking Foreign Language ]. Yes. He can absolutely describe because he was right there. He was there for hours. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. It was the anniversary of hodda, celebrating her birthday with him. And eight of their close friends. And they all found death. And the terrorists, hay were outside on the balcony of the restaurant. A car stopped. Two people came out of it. And they started just shooting everybody on the balcony. He was inside the restaurant and he was laying on the ground. When they finished the first round of he looked up. And they reloaded and started to shoot inside the restaurant to try to kill every single one that was there. And he played there, right . Yeah. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. He didnt. He was just waiting. He didnt play dead but he was just waiting. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. He was waiting for the gunshots to stop so he could go and join his sisters. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. When he came out he was facing the restaurant and everybody was pretty much dead. And he started looking for his sisters. Who were literally under other people who were dead, some of their own friends. Halima died right away. She didnt suffer at all. But hodda was right next to her. She was still breathing. She took a bullet in the head. Oh, my goodness. He felt a little selfish at first because he had to take care of his sisters first. So he pulled hodda to the nextdoor restaurant. And he left her there with one of her friends named sam. Who was keeping her alive trying to keep her alive by keep on talking to her. And then he went and picked up halima. To bring her next to hodda. Tell us about what happened and i cant believe that im so grateful that youre here. I cant even imagine how youre able to stand. How are you doing having lost your wife and her sister . When the tragedy happened, i was in i was in senegal, dakar. I was watching france versus germany soccer game. And i was with my two kids. So it was, like, 8 00, 8 30. So every night before they going to sleep, they ask me to talk with their mom before going to sleep. And i took my phone and tried to call their mom. I try to call her, like, 30 or 45 minutes. She didnt answer. And i continue to call. And then halid answer with the phone and the first thing i do is hang up the phone. I say im calling my wife and a guy answer with the phone. So i hang up the phone. I let like ten minutes go, and i call back and halid answer with the phone and i say, where is my wife . Where is halima . And he tell me that something happen in paris. I tell him, yes, i know, they have some terrorism attack in paris. So where is halima . I think that he i thought that he was telling me halima is in downstairs talking with somebody or halima forgot her phone and thats not what i was hearing. He just tell me he just tell me your wife is dead. Halima is dead. I tell him no, its not possible. He tell me yes, she dead and my sister, hodda is between death and life. So he was crying on the phone. I was crying too. Five minutes before, my two my two sons just fell asleep five minutes before. And then i realized that my life is going to change forever. How are you doing now . How doing now . I see a lot of lot of lot of lot of lot of people calling me from everywhere. People coming from everywhere. So now im with a lot of people every time. Every hour theres people coming from everywhere, coming to see me. So now, i dont realize i dont realize whats happened. I will realize in a few days when i go back to senegal to see my two sons to tell them that they will never see their mom again. How do you convey to the world the suffering and what you are dealing with and what so many families are dealing with now . I dont wish this thing to my worst, worst, worst enemy in this life. This thing, i dont wish it to nobody. Because when this thing happen to you, the only thing you ask yourself, why god choose you . Why this thing happen to you . So we hope that these terrorists will be stopped very soon. Lets talk about the terrorists. What do you what do you want people to know about that . And more importantly, what do you what would you say to these people who have perverted islam . Well, first were going to tell them that they are a disgrace, number one. Because the word coward is not even enough. And im going to say it and im going to say it again. Because we are all muslims. They are from tunisia, were from senegal, a country that is about 95 muslim. And we are among so many victims. I would tell these people and the world to understand that there is a critical difference between whatever they preach and between the peace that we are in islam. When we pray five times a day, when we glorify god every single day. When we are 1. 3 billion people in the world, peacefully worshipping our lord, the only one god, i want to tell these people that whatever agenda theyre doing, they should stop wrapping it around the blanket of islam. The blanket of islam is about peace and unity and love. Because that is the furthest from islam. Because a muslim would not kill just for the sake of killing, especially killing woman or elderly or kids. Even in time of war, were not supposed to kill women, elderlies and kids, we are not even supposed to cut down trees, let alone innocent people having fun. They were just celebrating a birthday. And this, i want to send a message to all the countries out there that have ever been victim, from kenya to burma, to syria, to baghdad in iraq, wherever it is that anyone has gone through any kind of attacks, it just happened viciously in france, but in United States we dealt with that. When my brother called me on friday and telling me about this incident i was in los angeles. I was shocked and tried to get on the earliest flight to paris. I just got in this morning on an empty flight. I want to tell people do not be afraid. Do not cancel your flights. Keep on coming to paris. Its a city of lights. Its beautiful. Last time around this time i was here and it was full of people on the streets. Today the streets are emthe i. I want to tell the world, do not be angry. Do not be in terror. That is the ultimate goal. I think we should just all realize this, we have senegal, tunisia, france, different countries, blacks, arabs, theres no more colors. And its really, like, we want to send this message of love and this message of courage i want to send to the world. Your family is there with you now and i see you guys crying and holding each other. Whats next for your family . How do you go on from here . I mean, its been incredible. We do not know. Its been from dealing with just the forensic of even getting back the bodies so we can have a funeral has been kind of hard because its almost like investigation is still going. So we literally are living millisecond by millisecond. We dont know what is happening. The kids will never see their mother again. Its just really tough. But we together are bringing the Families Together and being strong together. We are capable of laughing a little bit and finding lightness in this serious, dark situation. Can i ask you to ask halid a question for me. Can you ask how this has changed him. [ speaking Foreign Language ]. His life is going to change completely. His life, the life of his father, the life of his mother, the life of his nephews. He went to work. He went to work. That night he was working, by f the way, in the restaurant. And he became a different man after the incident. I want to thank all of you. And our thoughts and prayers are with you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Some cash back cards love to overcomplicate things. Like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. Why put up with that . But the quicksilver card from capital one likes to keep it simple. Real simple. Im talking easy likea walkinthepark, nothingtoworryabout, manthatfeelsgood simple. Quicksilver earns you unlimited 1. 5 cash back on every purchase, everywhere. Its a simple question. Whats in your wallet . Our live coverage of the terror attacks in paris continues now with john welcome to cnns continuing live coverage of the terror attacks in paris. Im isha sesay. Rein im john vause. Investigators are slowly and carefully searching an Apartment Building in the paris suburb of st. Denis where are at least two suspected terrorists were killed. They dont know yet whether the alleged ringleader of fridays attacks abdelhamid abaaoud, the target of the raid, is among the dead