Widely available testing. The president says americas ramping up testing, tests for everyone is, quote, not going to happen. Lets begin here in new york with our National Correspondent athena jones. Good morning, athena. It is a sad image, more Funeral Directors being brought to the state. Reporter good morning, poppy it sad. There is more bad news, but it does come wrapped in at least not not good news, better news. New york state reporting its highest single day death toll for the third day in a row. But there is progress. As you mentioned, hospitalizations are down, so are intensive care unit admissions. Hospital admissions are down dramatically, to 200 on wednesday from 585 the day before. Thats certainly a good sign. Governor cuomo saying that there has been so much focus on new york city, theyre now watching counties around new york, rockland county, nassau county, suffolk counties, because the numbers are beginning to rise there. More than 7,000 new yorkers have now been killed by this virus, this coronavirus. And as you hear the governor mention often, thats double the number that died on 9 11 and it is putting a lot of pressure on funeral homes. One funeral director told cnn he typically gets 30 to 40 calls a month, now hes getting that number in a single day. That is what led the governor to sign an executive order last night that will allow licensed Funeral Directors from all around the country to come to new york state to be able to help out with this backlog of bodies. And one more thing i should add, that is that heart island, which is an island off the coast of the bronx in the Long Island Sound it going to be used for unclaimed bodies. According to new rules issued by the new york medical examiner, bodies that are not retrieved or claimed within 14 days will now go to that island for burial. They will be, we understand, from Funeral Directors, theyre well marked, so it is possible for families to later on get those bodies interred and give the proper burial they would like. That gives you a sense of just how much of an impact this virus is having on a city like this one, in a state like this one. For sure. Athena, we saw some Uniformed Service members walking behind you there, going to report to duty and the military stepped up really across the country, athena jones, thanks so much. John harwood joins us now from washington. John, President Trump wants to get the government, the economy in particular open quickly even as we heard, dr. Fauci urging caution. I wonder, the president has floated this kind of idea in the past and backed down. Do you get the sense this is one he might back down on or is he becoming increasingly committed to moving forward in may . Reporter it is possible hell back down again. But, jim, this is precisely the moment that the Public Health officials have feared in this crisis. There are signs that the mitigation efforts are working. Social distancing is working. That produces some good news in hardest hit areas like new york. But in turn, it also provokes the reaction of those who are impatient with these measures including most of all President Trump who said this yesterday. You see what is happening and where we are, where we stand, and hopefully were going to be opening up. Call it opening, very, very, very soon, i hope. Reporter now, the problem with that, of course, is that unless you keep your foot on the accelerator, as dr. Fauci said, it is hard to sustain that progress. We got through the end of the month, with the current guidelines. Some states like maryland, virginia, washington, d. C. Where i am right now have not even hit their peak yet and so theyre concerned about backing off prematurely. I talked yesterday to Cordelia Griggs who has been on our air, she is a front line doctor in new york city who said this is the really, really hard part, trying to sustain discipline and vigilance as we plateau. The question is going to be how does President Trump juggle the intense collision of those interests, all of the economic forces and the conservative republican forces. We heard from bill barr, his attorney general recent days saying we need to get off these draconian measures and stop telling people to hide under their beds. How he resolves those in the next couple of days, next couple of weeks, is going to be crucial to how long this crisis lasts and whether we actually have a relapse into a second hump in cases in the second extension of the kind of lockdown that produces economic damage hes concerned about, guys. Absolutely. I mean, it is so many people around him saying, john, dont do this too quickly or the price you pay economically will be so much worse in the longterm, well see if he heeds that. Thank you very much, john. Have a good weekend. Joining us now, dr. Celine gounder, clinical assistant professor of medicine and Emergency Room Physician dr dr. Thorades. If we can begin with the discussion about Antibody Testing. We are hearing more about this, dr. Fauci talked about it on cnn this morning. And i just wonder if you could explain to the american people, they start to see more headlines about this, what it actually is, what it means, and what the implications are for the country. Poppy, thank you very much for having me on. The reason that Antibody Testing is so important, essentially antibodies are our way to identify how our bodys own immune system is reacting to exposure to certain viruses or bacteria. This is a new virus. We do not have any previous exposure to it, so while the initial focus was on testing, so that we could identify those individuals who were infected and trying to quarantine them, the reality is that since testing has been slow to roll out, and even now across the country, Healthcare Workers are unable to easily get tests in certain areas, we need to be able to know who has been exposed since some patient maze have absolutely no symptoms whatsoever and that way we can identify people who are now more immune to this, and it is particularly important for our Healthcare Workers to be able to know if they have any immunity given the unfortunate National Calamity that is our ppe shortage. Yeah. So, dr. Gauounder, lets plug ts possibility of this coming antibody test. The big question is how widely available it will be. Debate, how soon you open up the country again. Can you relax the measures without broad based testing to know who has antibodies or who has been infected . Well, jim, one important question that has not been resolved yet is what the antibody tests really tell us. Were not 100 sure that does truly indicate immunity. Thats one big question mark, the studies need to be studied more carefully. Assuming it does indicate immunity it would allow you to be more targeted and saying if youre immune, youre somebody who can go back to work, because not only are you immune, youre not contributing to further community transmission. But, you know, there are other really important steps that we need to implement here, one of which is being able to also test people who have symptoms with the older tests that we have had up until now and doing contact tracing. Right now were completely unable to do that because the spread of disease is so so much of it in the community. It is like a bowl of spaghetti, how do you trace one strand. You need to get to the point where you can go from a to b to c in terms of transmission and were nowhere near that right now. There was also a letter from the National Academy of sciences, committee there, to the white house, just on wednesday of this week, talking about just concerns in terms of testing, looking at the number of tests that have come back, that were negative, but those folks were positive, basically missing things here. Is the testing not full proof . Well, the testing is certainly not full proof, especially the type of tests that i underwent several weeks ago when i developed mild symptoms. The sensitivity rate was about 70 , which means thats about a 30 false negative rate. We had examples in our hospital and colleagues of mine who were tested once, twice, both times negative and it wasnt until they deteriorated that the test then became positive. So that is accurate. And i would have to agree with the other guests here that many of the things that she did say are true. Also, being able to get an adequate sample, it is difficult tests, they have to go very far up your nose and as well some patients may have symptoms but may not be viral shedding enough to be able to get enough sample. So it is true that these tests are certainly far from perfect. Dr. Gounder, given the failure in the early stages of this disease and this country, getting broadbased testing for who was infected, what needs to happen to prepare for the moment when you do have a reliable test for antibodies so that that doesnt happen again . Who is going to be managing this so that it is not like a random parking lot, you know, somewhere where one in one state where the entire state can get tested but you have it broadly available . There are dozens of companies that have come up with these tests and in addition to the commercial tests you have different Academic Medical Centers that are developing their own. And we really need to have a plan for how to scale up so this needs to be done in collaboration with local and state Public Health departments, and it shouldnt be just a, you know, ebay, first come, first serve kind of situation. It really needs to be done rationally on the basis of population size, on the basis of how many cases you have in an area, and then doing some random surveying of the population, in addition to that, to get a better handle on how much transmission has been occurring in the area. But that requires planning ahead of time. You dont just wait until the tests are available. To you, dr. Torradas, the fall, ive been talking to a lot of family and friends about this, and there are concerns also from medical experts, dr. Fauci said there could be a resurgence. If this thing normalizes as much as possible in the summer, and comes back in the fall and winter then, and were still, you know, 18 months out from a vaccine, they think, should americans brace themselves for a repeat of this in, you know, five months . Well, i mean, i think this is going to be an issue, until we find some way to appropriately vaccinate or find some cure, i think this is not going to be going away anytime soon. Right now were seeing this on the coasts, in large urban centers where there is a lot of population density, multigenerational households that live together. This is why it is affecting those areas more. But lets not fool ourselves. I think at this point most recently it came out that twothirds of Rural Counties have at least one case going on right now. So this virus doesnt care who you vote for, it doesnt care what news channel you watch, doesnt care who you pray to, this will eventually affect every single part of the country. And unless we are smart and diligent about how we approach this with social distancing, wearing cloth masks when we go out to areas like supermarkets, where we are going to be around other people, unless we do that, it is not going to be a flattening of one curve, youre going to see spikes in different parts of the country, and what concerns me more is that one out of four rural hospitals before coronavirus were already on the verge of closing, 19 closed in 2019, and these hospitals, these are not areas that have World Class Centers like new york, boston, california. These are areas that have thin medical staffs, with very poor resources. And if those communities that have high rates of obesity, smoking and diabetes get affected, were in deep trouble. We have been talking to doctors in those rural areas across the country in recent weeks. We heard the same message. Thanks to both of you. Thank you. Still to come this hour, were go heing to speak to the ceo of michigans Henry Ford Health system where more than 800 Healthcare Workers have new been diagnosed with coronavirus. And this man spent six days on a ventilator in intensive care. Young man, only 44, he says he would not be here without that life saving machine. Were going to speak to him. Wow. Also ahead, a cnn exclusive, we talked to Melinda Gates about how the bill and Melinda Gates foundation is spending billions of dollars to try to stop the spread of coronavirus. What is the one thing that keeps her up at night . What keeps me up at night are the vulnerable populations. The kids who are falling behind because they dont have access to broadband or to a computer. Because theyre here. Working day in, day out. At t is here. Providing support with advanced services for First Responders. And connected temporary hospitals, mobile testing sites and Emergency Management centers. 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This as the state announces after today, travel between two residences will be banned. Ryan young is in detroit. Ryan, these new travel guidelines, extremely strict. You cant go from one household to another. Tell us what is behind that and are people following it . Reporter absolutely, jim. Theyre doubling down on this right now, trying to make sure that more people dont get sick from the coronavirus. Theyre telling family members they dont want them traveling from one family house to the next, maybe even bringing food over to the next house. They want to make sure people dont get infected with the coronavirus and take it somewhere else. We have talked to folks who lost multiple family members and some of that comes from somebody being infected and not knowing it. Going to another house and spreading it. In stores, going to increase restrictions as well. They want to make sure that one person per thousand square foot inside one of these stores, theyre also going to have social distancing lines outside the store to let people in. We also wanted to show you something else, a grim reminder of what is going on here. Look at this video from the medical examiners office, these are the trailers brought in just in case they have overflow when it comes to all the people who are dying here. We know that more than 1,000 people have lost their lives in the state of michigan. So theyre trying to beat back that curve. To come back live to where im standing, were at the tcf center, thats where this mobile Field Hospital is getting ready to open up. Members of the police department, national guard, are all on the inside. 25 patients will be put into this Covid Patients are go to be put into the Field Hospital just today. But with all this going on, you think about the health concerns, we talked to a local reverend about what is go on in the state and how we need to keep an eye on the health concerns. The virus and the nations response has revealed the inequities that we have been complaining about for years. Access to Economic Opportunity is a matter of life and death. So everyone is trying to get their own little party of this to make sure people stay home. This will be easter sunday. People are worried about people going out for that. One thing ill bring up before i leave, guys, Police Departments having to give out tickets to people who decided they dont want to do social distancing. Theyre having parties. Those First Responders are having to go to these calls to break that up, putting their lives in danger. 100 , ryan young, thank you for that reporting out of detroit. Lets stay focused on this city. Joining us now is the coo, chief operating officer at Henry Ford Health systems overseeing six hospitals in and around the motor city now. 872 of your employees have tested positive for covid19. Thank you for being here. How are they doing . You know, thank you for having me. Our first and our number one priority, of course, is the safety of our patients and safety of our fellow team workers. And we have 33,000 employees and we have over 800 that have tested positive. Some of them through community contact, no doubt. And certainly some of them from the risks of working in this environment. And most of them are doing incredibly well. In fact, we are down to only 200 of those individuals that are still off work quarantined. Many were some have been symptomatic but returned to health. It is something we worry about every single day and we make sure we can give them every kind of support possible. But, bob, you spoke with Vice President mike pence this week about the Clinical Trials, specifically for Healthcare Worker and First Responders. Your hospital is conducting with hydroxychloroquine, of course, the antimalarial drug there has been a lot of talk about here. Explain from your Vantage Point the debate on this here. Because, yes, it has worked for some patients, but it does have risks for other patients. And to date, the data on this is anecdotal as opposed to broadbased scientific. What are you discovering so far in your Clinical Trials . Well, i think what you just described is the exact reason that you want random studies and Clinical Trials and want them conducted by World Class Research institutes like we have at henry ford. The truth is we dont know what were going to find. But having the right clinical talent oversee these studies is about discovery. We need to find solutions, and we are hopeful this will prove to be a solution in certain circumstances, but it is way too early for us to draw any conclusion. It is our obligation to make sure were looking at every avenue. Lets talk about a little bit of good news on this friday. That is the Detroit Pistons, i think we have some video of this, i hope we do, nba, stepping up, helping you guys out. Delivering and the Cleveland Clinic as well, look at that, bringing you guys some of that much needed supply. It was only, you know, a week ago you called the need for daily supplies a daily battle. How much does this help . It helps immensely. One of the things that makes me so proud about detroit is how collaborative this town is, when we are in dire straits. It has been our history and so whether it is the Detroit Pistons who have been amazing partners, ford motor company, dt energy and so many others, were getting supplies. It is not a traditional way to get supplies by any means, but we are getting supplies and were just so grateful for everything that theyre doing. Collaborative, and we have seen a lot of collaboration, inside communities, across communities. Sadly a fact of this crisis has been a lot of competition, you know, state to state, bidding out for supplies, country to country, competitively bidding for supplies. Is that Getting Better in any way from your Vantage Point and who is policing that sort of thing to prevent that from happening . It is a great question. And it is very complex because were getting collaboration more from states that arent experiencing great pressure themselves and understandably it is big challenge when you got multiple states that are all in somewhat of dire straits for supplies. I think that by and large collaboration is happening between the federal government, the state government, and even the communities and business communities. But clearly when we get past this pandemic, i think it will be one of the most important Lessons Learned for us as a country is, how do we prepare in a better way as we move forward . You can only hope, right . We take away some gain of knowledge in all of this. Bob riney, thank you to your whole team. Were rooting for you. Can i end with a quick positive story . Please we discharged our thousandth patient this week that we helped return to recovery and our staff at henry ford hospital, as patients are discharged, they leave with the music of journey, dont stop believing playing. I love that. You couldnt pick a better song. Couldnt pick a better song. Well done. Thanks, bob. Good luck. In florida, where cases have reached nearly 17,000, the governor, ron desantis, saying hes considering reopening some schools . Why . Well take you there next. Attention, guardians of the grass. Navigators of the turf and keepers of the green. 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So, rosa, the governor was slow to Institute Social distancing state wide early on. Why this current consideration of lifting it so quickly. Reporter you know, there is a lot to unpack here, jim. But let me start with this, because Governor Desantis yesterday said he has not made a decision yet on when to reopen schools. The problem is that in the information that hes planning to use to reopen these schools is not based on fact. Take a listen. I dont think nationwide there has been a single fatality under 25, for whatever reason, it just doesnt seem to threaten, you know, kids. Reporter now, according to the cdc at least five people ages 24 and younger have died from covid19. Cnn reported on the deaths of a newborn in connecticut and infant in illinois as well. We reached out to the Governors Office since yesterday, including this morning, and we have not yet heard back yet. It is i must add too the governor talked about opening some schools, in some counties across the state, saying that some of the counties in the state have not been impacted as much as other counties. That is the exact same rational, jim and poppy, that the governor used very early on when he didnt issue the state wide order and we know he was one of the last governors to issue a state wide stay at home order. It is totally forgetting the fact or ignoring the fact that youve got staff and teachers and janitors in schools that can be all sort of ages. So looking for more clarity, rosa, thanks for trying to get the answers. All right, lets talk about new orleans now. Ed lavandera joins us where the mayor there says the data shows that social distancing is working. Some good news this morning. Reporter yeah, you know, the last few days of the statistics coming out of louisiana and coronavirus here continues to show this mixed bag, but everyone here seems to think that theyre on the best possible trajectory at this point. And that is that for three days in a row, the number of people on ventilators have dropped, there was a slight dip in hospital bed usage, but that that went back up yesterday, the number of cases continues to grow and the number of deaths here in this state continue to unfold as well. So that is a great deal of concern. But, one of the drive through testing sites, there had been three and knocked down to two, about a week ago, but there is now today will be the last day of one of the drive through testing sites, state officials here say theyre doing that so they can move those resources to other parts of the state. And the city here of new orleans is also trying to put together a plan where they can do mobile testing. A great deal great number of people here in the new orleans area, transportation issues and that sort of thing, some plan in the works to try to be able to get to those people more directly. Essentially the bottom line is here in the new orleans area, after today, there will only be one drive through testing center. Jim and poppy . Were days away from the peak and the country still does not have widespread testing. It is remarkable. Ed lavandera, thank you very much. Alex marquardt is in philadelphia where the governor of pennsylvania announced schools will remain closed for the rest of the year. Alex, what more are you learning . We heard some conflicting data from philadelphia, National Officials talking about coming spike, local officials saying well, maybe the numbers arent so bad. What is the reality . Reporter well, the reality right now is that we have passed a grim milestone in the city of philadelphia with some 5,000 confirmed cases, more than 5,000 and more than 100 deaths. But youre right, there has been a difference in tone. We heard from Vice President mike pence just yesterday saying they are seeing a trajectory that is worrying to them, to the Coronavirus Task force about the city of philadelphia. But youre hearing a much more optimistic tone from local officials. The Health Commissioner Thomas Farley saying that the the number of positive cases is slowing, he even aloud himself to say they might be reaching a plateau and we have seen similar numbers over the past few days. At the same time, farley is saying that you cant be too cautious. That this virus is very clever and that it could find a new population. Listen to what the mayor jim kenney told cnn. But we never you never know when it may surge back, and you want to make sure people dont get too complacent that they start stopping the social distancing that we have been encouraging them to do and we definitely will have something come back in a surge. But right now, the federal government believes we are a potential hot spot, send us all the equipment we need and well really appreciate it. Reporter by no means are they stopping the guidelines when it comes to social distancing. They are according to the Health Secretary planning for a day when they might be able to start relaxing those social distancing guidelines and the words of pennsylvania Health Secretary, it is very important to have hope. Jim and poppy. Yeah, it really is. Alex, thank you for that. So, ahead, the effort, bill and Melinda Gates pouring billions of dollars into fighting coronavirus. Our exclusive interview with Melinda Gates and why she says the u. S. Just was not prepared for this pandemic. My patients i often see them have teeth sensitivity as well as gum issues. Does it worry me . Absolutely. They are both very much hand in hand. So you should really be focusing on both and definitely at the same time. 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Like so many of us, Melinda Gates watched those close to her fight just to breathe as they battled coronavirus. The Gates Foundation is now putting billions of dollars behind eight different vaccines, hoping to find at least one that works. And melinda is sounding the alarm bell about what is to come for africa and the developing world. She spoke exclusively with cnn. Here is our conversation. Why do you think we were so ill prepared for coronavirus . We havent recognized as a Global Community that we are a Global Community and if we had recognized that and stepped up to it, we would have prepared for this, we would have systems in place, both monitoring, alerting very quickly, we would have had test kits available, we would have just you know, we plan for things as nations. We plan for earthquakes. We plan for tsunamis. We plan for tornadoes. We didnt plan for disease. And i dont think that will ever happen. You and bill and the Gates Foundation are literally putting billions of dollars right now behind the ability to quickly manufacture eight different potential vaccines just in case one or two of them may work. The vaccine is the ultimate solution. What we are doing is preparing with our many, many, many partners, were bringing compounds forward and then we have about eight different vaccines, candidates that will go into trials. Those are the ones were working on, partners working on others as well. There say little glimmer of hope in the last few days and that is human trial, human testing beginning for one of these vaccines and the development of it, partly backed by you guys from a Company Called innovo. How promising is that . Id say it looks promising, we wouldnt have put it into preClinical Trials if it wasnt. But to be honest, since we have been in this business before of vaccines, you want to have many candidates going into trial. So we obviously put our most promising ones forward first. But im going to feel better when we have all eight into Clinical Trials. The fact that the data show us that africanamericans in the United States are getting coronavirus more, and are dying at a much higher rate. When you started to see these numbers come in, what did you think . It was heart breaking when the numbers started to come in. We thought that might be the case. But what i see is that, you know, covid19, it affects everybody, but it affects people differently. We need a national response. And it needs to be equitable. What was moment like for you if there was one when this hit you personally . When i saw what china had to do to isolate such an enormous part of their population, my first thought was africa. How in the world are they going to deal with this . Ive been in townships all over africa, in slums. When we talk about in our country physical distancing and then hand washing, if you live in a slum, you cant physical distance. You have to go out and get your meal, you dont have clean water to wash your hands. And so as soon as i saw that, and we know from the foundations work how quickly disease spreads. I thought, oh, my gosh, we have a crisis on our hands that we arent even talking about in the United States and what is going to happen to the rest of the world. Thats how much worse it is going to be in the developing world . It is going to be horrible in the developing world. And part of the reason youre seeing the case numbers still dont look very bad, it is because they dont have access to have many tests. So, you know, look at ecuador, look at what is going on in ecuador, theyre putting bodies out on the street. Youre going to see that in countries in africa. You think this pandemic is just naturally going to set us back in terms of gender disparity, it will disproportionately fall on women. What do you mean . Heres what i know. 70 of the Healthcare Workers around the world are women. Women do more than two times the unpaid labor in their homes. So theyre caring for people in the Health System and caring for people at home. And at the same time, we have this disparity were not collecting what we call disaggregated data. Were not differently differentiating data that comes in about men and women. I wonder what keeps you up at night right now. What keeps me up at night are the vulnerable populations. You know, what keeps me up at night is in the u. S. , the kids who are falling behind because they dont have access to broadband or to a computer. So theyre not getting to continue their learning. What keeps me up at night are the vulnerable populations who i know in africa, ive met some of them, i cant imagine being a parent in those circumstances. And those are the things that keep me up at night. Jim, i was just so glad that shes, you know, sounding the alarm bell about the developing world, about africa, because this is what it is wreaking in the United States, what is it go to be like there full blown . For sure. And lets hope there is progress on vaccines too and they can help. Such a priority here. Yep. Well, coming up, he spent six days on a ventilator, battling the coronavirus even as a young man. Ill speak to someone who survives but feels like hes one of the lucky ones. You wouldnt accept an incomplete job from anyone else. So why accept it from your allergy pills . Flonase relieves your worst symptoms which most pills dont. Get allinone allergy relief for 24 hours, with flonase. 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As you mentioned, i was in the hospital for 17 days, almost a week in the intensive care unit in critical condition. Yes, hooked up to a ventilator that was breathing for me, fighting for my life. As you mentioned, im a generally healthy person. Im 44, dont smoke, dont barely drink, dont use drugs, dont have high Blood Pressure, dont have diabetes. My one issue is i have a little bit of exerciseinduced asthma, but i just take an inhaler before i work out, but i think that condition may have made me more vulnerable to the virus or to a bad case of respiratory failure connected with it. Listen, its sadly the great equalizer here. Yes, although the numbers are concentrated among the older, anybody can get it. You wrote in really a powerful piece in the washington post. You said as a patient whose life was saved by a ventilator, i believe it is an outrage and an embarrassment that a nation as wealthy as ours is even discussing possible ventilator shortages. Describe what a difference the ventilator made for you and just your view of this as, listen, places around the country are really fighting for these things. Yeah, so these ventilators which help patients breathe when they cant on their own are just amazing machines. A ventilator saved my life. I wouldnt be here if not for a ventilator. I was put on the ventilator after my oxygen levels started dropping and my lungs were filled with fluid. I do want to emphasize, though, that its not just also about the ventilators but also about the people who operate them. The doctors and nurses who really work with the patients like me that need ventilators, putting us on the ventilators and taking us off when were ready. I do want to emphasize its not just about the machinery, its also about whether we have enough qualified medical personnel to operate them. Yep. We talked to one earlier this week who was just talking about the risk to those Health Care Workers because theyre very exposed to someone when they put the tube down their throat. David, i could hear in your voice a little ras piness. Its a little hard to still walk up and downstairs. Folks think its well and good, but tell us about your recovery now. In some ways coming off the ventilator is not just the end of the story, really, its the beginning. Its a long road to recovery. There have been a lot of reports and Research Done about the struggles that patients who are on ventilators face. I have this hoarse voice because the ventilator does damage your vocal cords. You have to learn how to breathe again because for a while the machine is breathing for you, so i have to build up my lung capacity. But im fortunate. Some lung patients have a posttraumatic stress disorder, some struggle with things related to their job, some have psychological issues, so its not a happily ever after, but its better than the alternative. For sure. The final question before we go, the country is already in the midst of a debate. Three weeks after coming to a National Consensus on social distancing here, whats your advice to policymakers and others as they are considering lifting some of these social distancing things that have kept people from following you into the hospital . I would say, you know, this is just my instinct, a better safe than sorry. I think its better for us to leave these restrictions in place longer and make sure we protect health and safety of citizens as opposed to just doing it prematurely and risking losing the progress weve made. Obviously im biased, because im someone who almost lost life for this. Yeah. Youve been frank about that. Were so glad youre out and recovering, and i know your family is as well. David latt, we really wish you the best of luck. Thank you, jim. Talk about the picture of health almost dying from this. Just days from now, the United States could reach the peak of coronavirus cases as the Trump Administration looks to reopen the economy sooner rather than later, but what are the risks of doing that too soon . Next. Hey allergy muddlers. Achoo . Do your sneezes turn heads . Try zyrtec. It starts working hard at hour one. And works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. Zyrtec muddle no more. And the clock could be ticking towards bad breath, receding gums and possibly tooth loss. Help turn back the clock on gingivitis with parodontax. Leave bleeding gums behind. Parodontax. A very good friday morning to you. Im jim sciutto. And im poppy harlow. The state of new york now leading the world in the worst