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Capitol grounds. Knives, bottles, bricks, chunks of concrete all reportedly used as weapons. Our own nick valencia is following the story. He is joining us now. Tell us more about the White Nationalist group. What have you learned just within the last couple of minutes . Weve been digging into the past of the chairman, Matthew Heimbach, a 2013 graduate of Townsend University in maryland. We showed you video last hour of an incident she was involved in on march 1st, 2016, at a trump event, a donald trump event in louisville, kentucky. We just got our hands on a civil complaint regarding this incident of the video youre seeing now. We have to remind you this is of course a onesided complaint. This is against Matthew Heimbach, the man youre looking at now, the man who is the chairman of the Traditional Worker Party. But he is described by the southern poverty will you center as, quote, the face of a new generation of White Nationalists. He is affiliated with the Traditional Worker Party, a recognized hate group, selfproclaimed Political Party which is ideologically opposed to different ethnicities living together in the same community, intermarrying. Heimbach has been quoted as saying according to this civil complaint, its mongrelization. We talked to him last hour, and this is what he told us about the event. He was not at the event. We should mention that. But he did tell our assignment desk, the antifascists used bricks chucks of concretes. When they attacked, they defended themselves to be able to drive the attackers off. According to the police, there are discrepancies as to how many people were stabbed. Numbers range between five and seven people. Heimbach is quoted as saying one person from his Traditional Worker Party was stabbed, possibly in the neck. Another hit in the face with a bottle. Just to remind our viewers how this all started, just about 12 00 p. M. Pacific time, this recognized hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center was confronted by an Antifascist Group. Now the Traditional Workers Party did have a permit to have this rally take place. But the Antifascist Group, by any means necessary, had every intention, according to one of their members, making sure that this did not happen. And you see the aftermath there. Some bloodied neonazi types who were injured in this melee. In talking to a member of the capitol protection section, george granada, earlier today, it was pretty clear they expected there could be some problems here. You mentioned that the website, the various groups saying they were not going to allow this to happen. In light of that, did they expect that it would turn this violent . Were they prepared . Were they aptly prepared to deal with this . Well, one of their sympathizers, the golden state skinheads had written on their website that they had seen forums, had seen blogs, that was announcing violence. There was that expectation at least from these groups and these White Nationalist groups that they would be confronted by a violent crowd. Whether or not they knew it would turn into Something Like this, you know, thats anyones guess. But police must have known, suzanne, that Something Like this in a charged environment like this would have happened. One of the most curious things from the video out of sacramento is that imagery where you have these two groups facing off, a man with a stick, presumably on the other side, these White Nationalist members, and the police on horseback not intervening. It seemed almost as if they were overwhelmed by the situation there and, you know, for now you have seven people hospitalized. The numbers as high as 100 to 300 they estimated for the group that said they did not want this hate group to hold this rally. I want you to listen to one woman here who is part of the Antifascist Group who clashed with these selfdescribed White Nationalists, who told our reporter in sacramento why it was they came and what it was they did. Well, you know, its important for anyone whos thinking about joining racist genocide, and a racist Genocide Organization like the nazi groups that were holding this that theyre not welcome. And if they trip and fall in the process of that, good. They need to go. And we succeeded in driving them off. It seems like youre very happy with the over all come out. Is there anything you might have changed . From what we heard, at least five did get stabbed, part of the counterprotest group, which would be your side. And we are really glad to say that the people who were injured did not sustain lifethreatening injuries, and we do have people who are, you know, making sure that theyre getting taken care of and that they have people who are taking care of them. But i feel like all of us, from that, all it did was fuel our determination to keep this movement going and fight even harder, which is what we did after that. The nazis, a couple of them tried to come out on the steps for about 20 seconds, and they were driven out, and were said to be scurried back into the building. Then they had to cancel the envier event. Thats why the nazis are dangerous, and thats why we need to take them on directly, take them on headon, confront them. Go with as many people as possible prepared to shut them down, and that is what this demonstration did today. I see you fighting. I see you leading the chants. I see you getting teary eyed talking about this. What does it mean to you that this was canceled, that you accomplished what was said to be your goal . Well, i am very, very proud of everyone who came out for this protest today because this wasnt just a protest for the sake of protesting or for the record. Weve got to build a movement in this nation. Everything is polarizing in this country and around the world, especially in terms of racist attacks on immigrants and the scapegoating of immigrants this this country, especially latino. Im an immigrant myself from the philippines. But we have people here of all ra races standing together, saying we will not accept or allow racist genocide organizing to take place on the front steps of the capitol of california, and we would do it again. And i am really, really glad that we did that. And wed do it again. The more people who come, the mort we can defeat them in the future. For anyone who may criticize the militant tactics or the violence, what would you say . I say its selfdefense. It is what we have to do because if we ignore them and allow them to just hold their recruitment rallies, they are not nonviolent. They are organizing to attack and kill us. So we have a right to selfdefense. We have an obligation to that, and that is why we have to shut them down by any means necessary. On the phone now with me, art roderick, our Law Enforcement analyst. Art, this has got to be the Police Forces worst case scenario. Youve got two large groups, weapons, hell bent on attacking each other. As a former u. S. Marshal, tell us how police even respond to a violent crowd situation like this. And we had just heard this young woman here saying, look, they have no regrets. You know, they are standing up for their rights and by any means necessary. She said they would do it again. How does Law Enforcement deal with two groups who are squarely opposed to each other and violence does seem to be a real option for them . Reporter yeah, it is it is a nightmare scenario for Law Enforcement. And apparently this particular rally, this White Nationalist rally, had been planned for some time. So everybody was pretty much aware that this was going to happen on this particular day. But, again, i mean regardless of how much we dislike these groups and their rhetoric, they do have the right to rally, to hold these rallies. And it really puts Law Enforcement between a rock and a hard place because theyve got to protect this particular group. And what youve got is they were probably initially overwhelmed here. You see the riot police did end up showing up. And they were probably on standby, waiting to see what would happen. And, of course, we havent heard any reports of any arrests occurring at this point. And i think whats going to happen is Law Enforcement and the District Attorneys Office is going to take a look at all the video thats going to be collected and then make a determination if any charges are going to be brought against either side, either group. And, art, i do want to ask you. I mean it seems to me as if there could have been a way of containing this group, could there not, or at least separating these two groups . We know that both members of these groups seemingly were injured in this confrontation. Right. Well, i mean usually i mean weve had protests around the country before where two opposing groups actually get permits to hold their protests. But Law Enforcement at that particular point in time can determine where these two groups are going to set up, and they keep them apart. In this particular case, the White Supremacist Group did have the permit, but the other group did not. They just showed up en masse and just rushed these other individuals from the White Supremacist Group. Probably outnumbered somewhere in the area of five or six to one. So it just got chaotic there for a few minutes before Law Enforcement could show up. Then you had a lot of these side fights going on. Once Law Enforcement got there and was able to disperse the main group with the mounted police and the riot police when they showed up were able to disperse the group also. All right. Art roderick, thank you so much. Nick valencia as well. Well have more of this after the break. Were staying on top of the breaking news out of california. Were also watching for more of the brexit fallout. In a matter of hours, asian markets going to open. Some economists warn that a global recession thats right, a global recession may be on the way. More on that next. And my results ended up beinge african, european and asian. It was great because it confirmed what i knew in my gut with a little surprise. Ancestry helped give me a sense of identity. When you have type 2 diabetes, like me, hi, im dominique wilkins. Theres a moment of truth. And with victoza®, a better moment of proof. Victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill, which didnt get me to my goal. Victoza® works with your body to lower blood sugar in three ways in the stomach, the liver and the pancreas. And while it isnt for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. 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Not only will he try to contain the panic over the brexit, but theres also the urgent matter over who should replace british Prime Minister David Cameron. Add to that in just hours, asian markets are going to be opening, giving us a hint of whether were going to see another financial earthquake like we did on friday. When the dow plummeted more than 600 points. Massive losses also reported across markets in tokyo, paris, and london. I want to get right away to cnns paula hancocks. She is live in seoul, south korea. Paula, what are you hearing . Reporter well, suzanne, investors have had a couple of days here in asia to mull over what has happened, and we likely to be in for a very volatile few weeks. This is not just the next few days were looking at. Obviously theres a huge amount of uncertainty in the markets. Those asian markets were absolutely hammered on friday, and they didnt have a full day to react to what has happened because it was really unfolding during the asia day on friday. Many investors will now want to get into the market and react to that. Certainly this isnt just one shock that the markets have to react to. You have the massive shock on friday. You then have the Prime Minister resigning. You dont know whos going to be the next prime minisr in the united kingdom. And of course the opposition is in disarray as many of those resigning as well and suggestions that there was an attempted coup on the opposition leader. We will have some certainty or at least some discussion from the uk finance minister, the chancellor of the exchequer, george osborne, on monday morning. Thats about 2 00 a. M. Eastern, hopefully giving us some indication of what could happen. Paula han cobs, thank you so much. With the uk edging towards the exit, many in europe are looking to berlin for leadership in these chaotic times. Remember germany is europes biggest economy, fourth biggest in the world, trailing only the u. S. , china, and jaen pa. The country was one of the six founding members of the eu along with belgium, france, italy, luxembourg and the netherlands. The german ambassador to the u. S. Is joining me now. Lets first of all talk about chancellor angela merkel. She has said, quote, i would not fight now for a short time frame. But germanys foreign minister said this process should get under way as soon as possible. Which position is the position of your government . Well, its good to be on your show, first of all. Thank you. This is a watershed moment, and no doubt about it for europe. But it is not the end of the European Union. We deplore that decision of the british, but we respect it. But the European Union will remain a strong and reliable partner even without britain for the United States. The most Important International part. And theres no reason for panic. The eu will remain to exist, and the eu will remain strong. Now, weve got to give the british some space to digest the aftershocks of that decision in the referendum. They might have to cope with the consequences, but then after a while, it is important rather sooner than later that the British Government provides clarity as to the implementation of that decision. And as you know, there are rules and regulations to provide for an orderly, regular and negotiated agreement with the uk outside the European Union. So no reason to panic. The eu will remain a strong union of 27 Member States. And what about what is taking place with Angela America snme. The know shes invited her counterparts to meet in berlin as well as the president of the eu to talk about the next steps. What is the hope there in terms of where you go from there, if this is a process that happens very quickly or you give britain time . Indeed, the chancellor will meet with the french president , the italian Prime Minister, and the president of the european council, tusk, on monday in berlin. And they will deliberate on the next steps and foreshadow what the european leaders will want to do on tuesday and wednesday when they meet in brussels. Yo europe needs leadership. Germany will provide leadership but not alone with others. We will fight for making this European Union strong, reform it, improve it. But we want to strengthen it. We have heard the message. Its a wakeup call for europe. Weve got to make sure that the citizens expectations will be met. We are not a union of bureaucrats. We are a union for the citizens. But its also important and that it would be at the heart of the meeting in the coming weeks and months of the European Union, we want to make sure we focus on those issues where Member States cannot act individually but have to act together. Fight against terrorism. External, internal security. Managing the refugee crisis, the immigration. And remain a competitive player on the Global Economic stage. That is only what a strong European Union can provide and not single Member States. All right. Ambassador, thank you so much for your time. When we have more time, well discuss some of the specifics about how germany will play a greater role in the European Union in the days and the years to come. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Good luck to you. Coming up, a rising death toll after historic floods hit west virginia. Homes and roads washed away. Families struggling to salvage whatever they can. Were going to go live to one of the hardest hit areas. 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Its the worst possible news today for the people of flood ravaged west virginia. More rain is on the way and a new Flash Flood Watch is now in effect. This is part of the country that really doesnt need me more water right now. Floodwaters receded just this weekend after ravaging parts of central west virginia, sending houses down river and causing the deaths of at least 24 people. Brynn gingras is in one of the hardest hit counties. Brynn, theres this warning that theres more flooding that might be coming again. Reporter i have got to tell you that it is even worse. If that was even possible, but the devastation could be worse. I want to show you this, though. Look at this house. We can see into the living room. This is a house that even some people have described as it almost seemed like a tornado ripped through this area. Thats how bad it is. This house was lifted off its foundation and literally twisted from those flood waters that were raging through this area two nights ago. Like a said, a quarter mile here, there were still flames from a fire broke out when a propane tank burst in that home and then sent that home down the river. I mean thats what were hearing. Those are the sort of stories were hearing as we walk around these areas that have just been devastated by these storms. This home as well. This was split in half, and actually these homeowners now here trying to survey the damage. But certainly this cannot be recovered. But, yeah, weve been hearing about all of these stories of survival, these stories of people not knowing what theyre going to do now. I will say this is an area that is extremely resilient. Weve seen fema. Weve seen national guard. Weve seen the army all here trying to help out. But, again, as we said before, there is a fear right now because there is another flash flood expected tomorrow. And i can tell you when you talk to people and they hear that word flash flood, they now dont know what to expect. 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Police say brawls broke out after antifascist protesters tried to stop the rally. Witnesses say knives, bottles, bricks, chunks of concrete were used as weapons. The Group Leading the rally is described as rightwing extremist and is considered a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center. We are now learning more about the man in charge of it, Matthew Heimbach. David mattingly talked to him three years ago after he started a White Student Union at his maryland university. Heres a bit of the interview. The Antidefamation League and the Southern Poverty Law Center both call him a white supremacist. One writer says he is what the future of organized hate might look like. But College Senior Matthew Heimbach greets the words with a smile. Are you proud of that . Well, im proud of what of the fact the splc and the adl are denouncing us, but were not the future of organized hate. His critics say his actions suggest otherwise. This is heimbach on Surveillance Video just last summer, posing with the rebel flag outside the Southern Poverty Law Center in montgomery, alabama. He writes about how white southern men ought to rise up once again to defend southern white womanhood. Well, you know, the last time we heard that cry, it was from the reconstruction era klan. Id call myself a southern nationalist. A believe specifically in the identity of the southern people and believe the white identity, the european identity, white european. Well, of course, im white. My culture is white. My customs are white. My language is white. Last year he led a Group Writing white pride and other prowhite slogans in public areas at marylands Townsend University where hes enrolled. Heimbach said no longer will the black supremacist groups be allowed to hijack our campus. I think this group is attempting to promote White Supremacy issues, issues of noninclusion on a number of levels. Now the leader of a new group, the White Student Union, heimbach complains about campus crime, saying, everything single day black predators prey upon the majority white, Towson University student body. Hes organizing security patrols armed with pepper spray. Is this jury agenda . Is this a racially based, racially motivated agenda . Because this comment makes it very clear, black and white. I like what you did there. Yeah, the idea is this is very serious stuff. I agree wu. And the idea that the campus is offended that white students want to be able to try and make our community a better place, lets look at it this way. If a black student was doing this, they would be calling heroes. They would be getting the e key to the city. Doubtful. The crime wave appears to be one he invented. Just 6. 01 crime reported per 1,000 students. 2012 brought the lowest crime rate on campus in 17 years. There is a black on white problem, but its also a crime problem in general where everyone is at risk. You can say it over and over and over again if you want, but the numbers just dont back you up. The numbers do back me up. Lets look in terms of National Crime statistics. Lets look at this campus. Single digits. They have been going down steadily since 1995. Theres a reason why the majority of people in my organization are women, because they dont feel safe on this campus going across the street at night. In spite of his claims, towson is the safest of all maryland public universities, at least seven of the last ten years. He also claims to have 50 members, a number University Officials strongly dispute. Heimbach has managed to provoke one change here at towson, University Police say they will be much more visible on campus in the days to come, not out of a need to deter any new wave of crime, but to deter any new feelings of insecurity. So far, heimbach hasnt proeken any rules. The university cant do anything about it. He plans to graduate this spring with a degree in history. David mattingly, cnn, towson, maryland. Matthew heimbach was on the radar of groups who tracked White Nationalists. I want to bring in nick valencia, who is tracking the story. Nick, why do we think this is somebody who is the new face of white nationalism. Well, hes been described as such in a civil complaint laid out from an incident he was involved in march 1st at a donald trump rally. Straight from this complaint we glean a little bit more on top of that reporter david mattingly, about who Matthew Heimbach was. He has been quoted as saying that donald trump is the first person since buchanan in the 90s and George Wallace in 1968 to be a guy outsaide mainstream. He showed up at that rally wearing traditionalist propaganda. He had that make America Great again act thats become the slogan of the republican nominee donald trump. We do want to go to ryan leance with the Southern Poverty Law Center. Ryan, thank you so much for taking the time with cnn. What can you tell us more about this individual, Matthew Heimbach, and his organization . Just how large is it . Just how big is it . What do you know . Heimbach has been active for some time on the radical right. Hes been doing this since he was a student at Towson University. But over the last several years, as his group as his new group, the Traditionalist Youth Network that has morphed into this Political Network hes a aallied himself. Were having some problems there, some connectivity problems but ill just pick up where he left off. Digging into the traditionalist workers party, this is a group that stands up against globalization. In fact the rally that was planned today in sacramento was to stand up against globalism. I understand that mr. Lens is back with us now. You want to go back and pick up where you left off. Sure, as i was saying, over the years he starteds a student and as hes graduated and bec, group, the Traditionalist Youth Network and the political ring of that has become more aligned with the more violent and radical elements of the racist right. Hes protested with groups with names like the aryan terror grig a brigade and others. This is not the first time that heimbach or members of tyn have been involved in violent outbursts at political rallies. Let me add right now that, you know, first and foremost, we condemn violence in all its forms and theres a lot to be learned about what actually happened in sacramento. But tyn rallies have been violent before. This was a planned counterdemonstration by the group by any means necessary. I was looking at their facebook page. They were talking about wanting to stand up by any means against this group to stop what they call fascist and racist organization. Getting back to Matthew Heimbach, what do you know about his upbringing, his childhood, what may have contributed to his views . Well, ive actually spent hours interviewing heimbach, and what i do know is that he was hes the son of School Teachers who was introduced to this movement, to these ideas, by through the books that he read, namely pat buchanan. He cited some of Pat Buchanans bo books. But very early on he adopted the cause of southern nationalism or what we call the neoconfederate movement. This is a group of southerners who advocate for a second southern secession, for an independent south, largely on racial grounds. , and ryan lenz, this is suzanne malveaux. Can you explain why it was that he was also at a trump rally march 1st in louisville . There was a civil complaint that was filed against him for what we you know, we saw video of him pushing an africanamerican woman, part of an organization, you know, black lives matter. Is there some sort of connection or intersection of this White Supremacist Group and why they might be appearing at this trump rally . Well, i think without a doubt, weve seen that trumps candidacy has motivated and energized the racist right in ways that we have not seen in decades. You know, for a candidate who comes out and, you know, right out the gate and says that theyre going to build a wall with mexico and then several months later advocates for a ban on all muslim immigration in the United States, you can understand why this would be a preferred cause for, you know, someone who advocates for white separatism or White Supremacy. All right. Ryan lenz, thank you so much. I really appreciate the analysis of this particular group and also nick valencia for really digging in and looking at what took place earlier today in sacramento, california. It was really quite surprising how it all unfolded. Really a very serious situation. And were talking about this intersection here. According to this civil complaint, Matthew Heimbach calls donald trump a gateway drug, that they can move their group from civic nationalism to populism, and theyre using him as somebody they can use as a recruiting tool. All right. Nick, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Coming up, the u. S. Rushes to contain the brexit fallout with secretary of state john kerry bound for brussels tomorrow. Plus will monday opening bell mean another roler coaster ride for wall street . Were going to ask famed economist ben stein. Thats right, hes here with us to give us his predictions. Having acne. Was always on my mind. So i asked a dermatologist about new aczone dapsone gel 7. 5 . I apply it once a day, any time. Aczone gel 7. 5 is fda approved for the topical treatment of acne for people 12 years and older. Aczone gel is a onceaday acne treatment with clinically proven results. In clinical trials, acne got better for people using aczone gel in just 12 weeks. 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Kerry will touch down in brussels tomorrow for crucial meetings with eu leaders. That meeting happens just ahead of a summit where british Prime Minister David Cameron will try to explain to a room of officials from 27 countries just how brexit happened. I want to bring in our own Erin Mclaughlin in brussels. Erin, yes, thats what everybody really wants to know. When the divorce negotiations begin, how it actually happened. What do you think hes going to say . Reporter hi, suzanne. Well, that is the question on peoples minds here in brussels. Eu leaders simply dont have the answers, and that is because it is entirely up to the uk to invoke whats known as article 50 of the eu treaty. That is essentially the escape clause, and only once that is invoked can actual negotiations begin. Now, i was at a briefing of reporters just a short while ago, and a senior eu official said that he does not expect for Prime Minister cameron in that very critical dinner expected later this week to invoke article 50. He said that eu leaders here are understanding of that given the nature of the political crisis now unfolding in the uk. Prime minister cameron has stepped down, and if the article 50 was invoked and negotiations began, well, its completely unclear who the eu leaders would actually be negotiating with. So it looks like it could be many more months before the actual process begins to unfold. Suzanne. All right. Erin mclaughlin, thank you so much. We appreciate it. In just a matter of hours, the asian markets are going to open. How will they react . It will be a strong indication of whether we can expect financial turmoil. Is it time to buy or get out of dodge . Im sure youll recognize my next guest. Economist ben stein. He is also the author of how to ruin your financial life. First of all, tell us what you think. Investors, how are they going to react when the markets open tomorrow morning . Well, jp morgan was asked, and they said the markets will fluctuate. Theres a tremendous amount of fear being ginned up by people in the media and by traders who make money on fear. But the actual magnitudes involved in the brexit are tiny, especially for United States investors. The magnitudes are pennies compared to the size of the United States economy. And i do not understand, except for the paining being whipp being whipped up by the media, why there is so much fear in people in the sp 500 range. I think people who sell into this may well regret. Its almost a bad idea to sell into panic. But, ben, come on. Its too easy to talk about the media here. Youve got world leaders, people who are saying politicians, theyre afraid. Theyre scared. What do you make of it . I make of it they have not looked at the magnitudes involved. We export to britain Something Like 55 billion. If we export the 10 billion less than that, you couldnt calculate how small of an effect that would have. Yet the United States markets lost on friday. The magnitudes are all messed. The magnitude of the trade thats going to be affected by this is quite small. It might even be nothing. And the magnitude of the markets reaction is enormous. It just doesnt make sense. You had a correspondent on a few moments ago from seoul, south korea, who was talking about the effect on the south korean market. Seoul exports to england 7 billion. If it fell by half, it would be nothing in the National Income of south korea. The magnitudes involved just are not very large. Yes, there could be panic. Panic can last a long time. Warren buffett, the smartest guy in the world, says that in the short run, markets are a voting machine. In the long run, theyre a weighing machine. In the long run, i dont think theyre going to weigh much significance in this, but i could be wrong. But theres just nothing that big happening in terms of the numbers. All right. Well, Warren Buffett we know a very smart man indeed. You were a former white house speechwriter. I want you to apply what donald trump said about brexit, the fallout during his trip to scotland. Look, if the pound goes down, theyre going to do more business. You know, when the pound goes down, more people are coming to turn bury, frankly. What do you make of that . Is his reaction to what had taken place right there where he was standing . Well, hes completely correct. I mean if the pound goes down, its cheaper for people to travel to england or any part of the united kingdom. Its cheaper for them to buy british goods. Hes right. I mean im on record actually as saying on this very network that mr. Trump doesnt know a goddamn thing about economics, and pardon me for using that crude term. But i think in this case i think hes quite correct. I dont understand, you keep flashing this headline saying kerry heading to europe to contain brexit panic. How is he going to do that . Its a panicor something that just doesnt really exist except in the minds of traders who make money by moving the markets and they have the power to move the markets for a long, long time. How do you convince those guys that theres nothing to worry about, though . Well, i cant convince the traders. The traders want to trade. The traders want the markets to be volatile. Theyre happy with that. Thats their bread and butter. Thats their bentleys and their yachts. But for the ordinary citizen to think this is a worldchanging event, i think that is just on my humble opinion i could be wrong is a mistake. Over long periods of time, this is not going to mean very much. Thats actually good news to hear, ben. I hope so. Weve got to leave it there. Thank you, ben. Good to see you as always. 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On tonights brand new episode of declassified we go inside the hunt for one of historys moeth ruthless dictators, Saddam Hussein. Find out how a call in baghdad led u. S. Forces right to the target. And then the field phone rang, and it was the commander of the special operations unit. He goes, well, the guy were looking for, we picked up in baghdad. I go, really . He says, yeah. I said, you know what were doing tonight . Were going after saddam. I knew we had to move that night because i think once that guy was captured, the word would eventually get back. You know, the reality is we didnt know what to expect. I mean this was a difficult place. It was the hometown of Saddam Hussein. Yes, there was going to be risk. So i expected a fight, a serious fight. Based upon lessons from other missions very similar to this, i said, listen, when does the moon come up . 2,100 hours. Okay. Sunset is about 6 30. I wanted to be absolute blackout conditions, no illumination whatsoever when we get onto the objective. I also wanted to move fast. Wow. Joining me now is the host of declassified former chair of the House Intelligence Committee mike rogers. Wow, that was a powerful piece of video right there, of story telling. Tell us a little more about what were going to see in tonights episode. Well, its exciting. So we all know what happened at the end, but we dont know what all went into it. So were going to meet some of the army interrogators who were trained in trying to find small little bits of information to find out actually where saddam was. Youre going to find out it came to the craziest series of events. One, a chef. And the other, a favorite fish of Saddam Hussein. And all the twists and turns that went in it. Think about this, youre trying to find a fugitive. Its hard enough in the United States where the police can go anywhere they want. Imagine trying to find a fugitive in iraq when the insurgency is kicking up and all the challenges, twists, turns that go with it. Mike, that was one hell of a tease there. A fish and a chef. And youre going to have to watch to find out. I know. Its a great tease. Definitely going to be wafing here. Tell us, when Saddam Hussein was finally caught, was there any discussion ever about keeping him as a u. S. Prisoner rather than turning him over to the iraqis, who sentenced him to death . You know, there was lots of discussion leading up to the saddam camture. What would they do with him . But at the time if you recall that the new government was getting seated, and it was very, very important for the new government to have the adjudication of Saddam Hussein and what would happen to him in his own country by the next government. So it really was not a big debate about trying to bring him back and arresting him and putting him in a u. S. Prison. It was more important to turn him over to this new burgeoning hopefully power in iraq that was going to be the new democratically elected government. Of course obviously it doesnt work out that way. But that was a really important step for that government to show that they could put a trial on, that it could be fair, and it was long. And then at the end of the day, they meted out the justice which they wanted to see for their own leader for all the travesties he committed in iran. Was there ever any thought that the United States thought theyd be able to take him alive especially after the shock and awe bombing . Lots of worry. So you saw that little piece where the military commanders were thinking this is going to be a big, bloody fight just to get at him. They were afraid in the beginning that he would have some serious loyalists, military officers who had gone with him that would fight to the bitter end. So there was lots of worry that it was going to be a brutal fight just to get their hands on him. And if he would survive that or not, i think, was a big question going into this operation. Mike, is there going to be any kind of surprise, a bombshell, something that perhaps we all didnt know in going after saddam that you can share . Another tease maybe . Ha ha, youre going to think of a great novel, suzanne. Youre going to find out some things. Like any great spy novel, the twists, the turns, and the intrigue, it all happens tonight at 10 00 on declassified in that hunt. So think of all the things you think it would go. It probably doesnt happen that way. Thats why youve got to watch tonight. All right. Great advertisement. Im going to watch. You got me hooked. Mike rogers, thank you as well. Thanks. As mike said, be sure to tune in tonight for declassified, the hunt for saddam. It is at 10 00. Before that, tune in for a brand new episode of the hunt with john walsh. Thats at 9 00. Im suzanne malveaux. Its been a pleasure. Have a great week. For 30 years, you, the public, have been my partners and have helped me track down bad guys and bring them back to face justice. Last season on the hunt we had some amazing captures. Here are the fugitives we profiled who arent running anymore. Paul jackson was accused of kidnapping and torturing women for the fun of it, but he vanished in 1991 and hadnt been seen for 24 long years. After our program on jackson aired, a hunt viewer tipped off

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