Trump visited about six times, and so senator Amy Klobuchar said out of the kate, that this is a critical state and she would be here on day one to kick things off and move it forward to try to make up for the democrat, the rural democrats that many people lost back in 2016. And so that was what she was doing at the bike and coffee shop. She was well received. A lot of enthusiasm. Eau claire. A democratic enclave within the state of wisconsin. So it was friendly territory. But this is where she is kicking off and launching things. She is setting herself apart from her other democratic rivals. In many different ways. Talking about climate change. Taking on cyber security. And also taking on the spending bill. This was the bill signed into law just yesterday by the president , keeping the government open, but at a cost. It was a negotiation process that she was a part of, so i asked her about that, her vision, her vote, very much different than senators warren, booker and kamala harris. Take a listen. You voted yes to the spending bill that would keep the government open, but it also allows 1. 3 billion for the president s border barriers and the legislation. There are some who say it is a waste of money for a vanity project. Why did you vote that way . Well, i have always supported border security. I just think we have to be smarter about how we do it. And that means some fencing. It means some barriers. And certainly, it means a focus on the ports of entry with what were seeing with the drug trafficking. And so i viewed that compromise as very similar to what we had suggested way back in the fall. The question is not really whats wrong with that compromise, because it is very similar to what we had at the beginning. I think the question is, why did he put america through a shutdown, the longest shutdown in history, 800,000 workers not being paid, tsa agents at the front line doing their job, workers furloughed with the doors shut to their workplace, thats a better question. So fred, i asked her as well about the border and the fact that the president called it, declared it a National Emergency. She pushed back saying of course that thats going to be facing legal challenges, going through the court system, but you can tell, fred, in many different avenues, many different issues, whether it is cyber security, whether its immigration reform, that she is not afraid to stand out in the pack here, to take that pragmatic role, to take that kind of position here. That is unapologetic and she says she is one of compromise, bipartisanship, and in many different ways proposing bills and legislation that she is working with republicans and hopes to work with this president in the next couple of years, and also convince voters that she is the one who is going to be able to get something done. Fred . Suzanne, thank you so much in eau claire, wisconsin. Lets talk further with me, with me Tara Setmeyer a cnn political commentator. And ken, a former Republican Attorney general for general. Good to see both of you. Immigration will be a hot topic. As will gun control already, turning out to be an item that many of these democrat candidates want to talk about now and i wonder, tara, is, you know, is it less risky to talk about gun control in the primary season, but a totally different season, issue, when it comes down to the general election . I would say that thats probably true for a lot of hot button issues. What you do in the primary is often very different than a general, just because of the nature of the electorate. Weve seen that, just look at the republican primary and what we ended up with. Listen, the issue of gun control is such a difficult one because it is multifaceted. It is an emotional issue. It is also a constitutional right that were talking about with the Second Amendment. So its the heart breaking tragedies that we see taking place over and over again, people want a sense of what can we do to stop this. Never again. But the problem is that theyre already thousands of gun laws on the books. And youre never going to be able to legislate evil. And youre never going to be able to legislate human error. And in a lot of these instances, its not anything that we could have done, or another law could have changed, a lot of times, its somewhere, the system broke down. Maybe theres things we can tighten up. But there is no one panacea to fix this, short of full confiscation, which is never happening in this country, nor should it. So it is a really difficult issue and i would just hope that democrat force their sake, they dont overstep with this, because it is going into a general election, people will rally around, you know, protecting your Second Amendment right and then nothing gets done and we keep going around in circles. So it is a tough issue but its complicated. Very complicated. Ken, how do you see the gop taking advantage of, or looking for, you know, vulnerabilities when the democrats do try to talk gun control . I think a different republican might sort of give them, give them time and space, but this president seems to want to attack immediately, but if you look at the states that are probability going to decide this election in the same way they decided the last one, pretty much from pennsylvania, to wisconsin, you have a lot of progun union democrats, in those states. And the primary, and i agree that this is true on both sides, but this time, its maybe, maybe a 20person democrat field, primaries drive candidates to the left. For the democrats. And you know, this is a dangerous issue in those states for democrats. Because there are actual progun democrats in those states in large numbers, literally, pennsylvania, you got a tremendous hunting population, ohio, no different, indiana, illinois, not that the republicans have a shot there, but wisconsin. Michigan, being the most obvious of them all. So this is a really difficult primary general balance for them. And i do think americans, people who are progun pay closer attention. Theyre more single issue people, gun owners, than there are on a lot of other issues. And that is going to cause the democrats problems in those rust belt states. The day after what happened in aurora, illinois, with that, you know, workplace shooting, take a listen to what beto or roark had to say, just moments ago. First of all, just a real tragedy, for the families, for the community, for the coworkers there, theyre in my thoughts, in our prayers, and also, theyre going to be in the actions that we take going forward, to make sure that we do more to save more lives. And do everything we can to support those families who have lost so much. So tara, does it become a real fine line, you know, none of these candidates want to politicize, but at the same time, want to address. Right. The rhetoric on this is pretty standard, right . You know what to say, you appeal to the empathy that people have on this situation, because its tragic, and again, that goes back to, okay, so now what are you going to do about that . I mean if nothing was done over arching since sandy hook, since las vegas, since parkland, those things did not really move the needle with any kind of sweeping gun control legislation. So what are democrats exactly proposing that would have changed these things . They have yet to define that. And when they start to, then we start getting into areas where, you know, for people who are lawabiding gun owners, which are the majority of this country who own gun, they will say oh, wait a minute, you wont come for my guns and the fear mongering starts. It is very difficult. To kens point about pennsylvania and progun almost, look at connor lambs race out there in pennsylvania. He was one of those people. If democrats run a National Candidate that has those kinds of viewpoints, that they can kind of express the empathy but respect the Second Amendment, they will attract more folks in the middle. It is a tough balance, though. I dont know if you get that in a primary. Quickly, ken, what did you mean by that expression . Well, i do think that, first of all, these things do get politicized. And it is very rare, very rare to actually find a new law that would stop an incident. Thats whats so frustrating frequently is all we hear is rhetoric, this is terrible, of course death and tragedy is terrible, but, and look, five Law Enforcement officers were wounded trying to stop this person, and the sixth injury and they gave us an update on six, actually. You dont hear that in the democrat primary right now. Well leave it there for now. Ken, tara, good to see you both. Thank you. Of course, if you want to join us monday night, as 2020 senator klobuchar and president ial candidate takes place in a New Hampshire town hall moderated by don lemon. Only on cnn. The u. S. Is urging american citizens to leave haiti amid growing unrest there. Several people have been reportedly killed in protests over the past week against the condition tris president. Tourists are reportedly trapped including a group of missionaries who have turned to go fund me, to try to raise money to leave the country. Miguel marquez is in haiti. Miguel, the president there still refusing to resign. What have people in general been saying and what are the options there . Reporter we are ten days into this crisis, right now, fredricka, and it is not very clear how it is going to play out. We know the Prime Minister is meant to speak tonight, to try to fill in some of the gaps that the president left, when he said he had a plan, to make things better for the people of haiti. But one thing is very clear, just being here for a short time. Gas, food, water. The basics of life are in short supply here and people are extraordinarily upset. This is a gas station. Most of the pumps are free of gas. Theres no gas to be had. But people pull up anyway, to try to wait and hope that gas comes. The people lined up here are waiting for kerosene. Cooking gas. So they can actually cook food if they can get it. The other issue here is water. Massive lines for water. Everywhere you go in this town, just clumps of people, crowds of people, hanging around a single spigot or a single hose, trying to fill a five gallon bucket of water, so that they can have some fresh water for the time being. The inflation rate here, over the last three years, is also a huge problem for people. You earn a buck today in haiti, and in a month or so, it is only worth 50, 60, 70 cents or so. So people who are up against it just cant survive in these conditions. They are extraordinarily upset. They want the president to resign. He has given zero indication that he will resign. But says he will offer up this plan, the Prime Minister says he is going to offer up more details of that plan later today. We will have to see what they are. Today is relatively quiet here in town. There may be some scattered protests, but nothing like weve seen over the last nine days or so. You dont have the roads blocked, tires burning everywhere. The town seems to be trying to come back it life right now but theyre a long way from it. You can see they went after banks, they went after any sort of government agency. Any of those sort of, those buildings of fiofficials, that where protests put most of their energy. It is very unclear how this is going to play out. Miguel marquez, thank you so much. Keep us posted there. In portauprince. Still ahead, President Trump declaring a National Emergency in this country in an effort to get more border wall money. But hes already seeing legal challenges. And a deadly shooting in illinois. Police are releasing new details as they piece together the investigation. Audible members know listening has the power to change us, make us better people. With audible, you get more. Two Audible Originals exclusive titles you cant find anywhere else. Plus a credit good for any audiobook and exclusive fitness and wellness programs. All with our commitment free guarantee and always ad free. 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And mariana write has spent two last two weeks, fighting to keep President Trumps border wall from cutting through the 100 acres of the National Butterfly center. They will be starting here. Last Year Congress approved the construction of 35 miles of border barrier in the Rio Grande Valley and construction is about to begin in the coming weeks. Part of the wall was supposed to cut through the Butterfly Center, leaving some of the property south of the border wall, and some north. The government used Eminent Domain to seize the necessary land to build the wall, much to the dismay of the centers executive director. They are seizing the land of tax paying citizens, and pushing the boundaries of mexico north of the rio grande river. Something general santa ana was never able to do. Trump is making america smaller. Not greater. Reporter but the congressional spending bill offered a lastminute reprieve to the Butterfly Center and four other specific locations. For now, no border wall in the Butterfly Center. But wall will come right up to their property lines and leave a quarter mile stretch of the centers property wide open. But Butterfly CenterOfficials Say theyre worried the Trump Administration will use the National Emergency declaration to keep trying to close the gap, and theyre worried about what its doing to the other land owners who havent been spared. This is a shame. This is a national disgrace. And the idea that its going to happen, and produce none of the purported benefit, i mean thats like going and buying a new car and driving it into a building. Why would you do that . The Butterfly Centers legal Battle Points a poignant picture of what lies ahead, the congressional spending bill compromise allocates 1. 4 billion to construct another 55 miles of border barrier in various locations in the valley. We got to get rid of drugs and gangs and people. It is an invasion. We have an invasion of drugs and criminals coming into our country that we stop but it is very hard to stop. With a wall, it would be very easy. Much of the construction is on private property which means the federal government will likely have to sue land owners to acquire the land. Down the road from the National Bitter fly center, fred and h hisly ahis, and his family are trying to stot barrier. The family owns 70 acres that will be left south of the border barrier in a nomans land. They have been tied up in Eminent Domain litigation but are losing hope they will stop the wall from being built starting in the next few weeks. Youre running out of time. What can you do . You cant fight the government. Well try. We will try to stop them and stall a little bit. We cant stop the government. Theyll do what they want to do. So the Rio Grande Valley braces for what most residents here say is the unwelcome wall. Ed levendera, cnn, mission texas. For more on the growing list of legal obstacle, we wring bri steve, a law professor from texas. The fight over Eminent Domain expected to be a big hurd number court. Do the people who are trying to protect their land stand a chance . The last gentlemen, who said, fighting the government, it is pretty hard. I think in the context of Eminent Domain case, the litigation would boil down to whether the government has a justifiable public use for taking these peoples land. And you know, i think for everything we might feel, for everything we might think about, the border, about the wall, about the National Emergency, i think the government is going to be on slightly stronger footing. Arguing there is a public use justifying the taking of the land in this context, as opposed to to those places where how so . Well, i think if building a border wall does have at least some public use from the perspective of, you know, the National Security implication, from the perspective of making it harder for those attempting to enter the United States, to do so outside of ports of entry. I think the real question is whether courts are going to be more skeptical of the public use justification in this context, given the baggage. Given that the president went to congress, tried to get money from congress, got, you know, less than what he asked for. And is now trying this end run through the emergency declaration. Except youre going to have homeowners similar to hnida alvarez, who was on cnns air, who was part of one of the lawsuits who says in the 40 years that she has owned and lived on her property, which is on the border, she is actually never seen anyone who is legaill who has been crossing, so wont that testimony establish, we dont, meaning those land owners who want to keep their property, those land owners say we dont see a threat and we dont want to seize, or allow our property to be taken. I think ultimately wont that ultimately be powerful . That will certainly factor into what the court does in these cases. I think the key taking the property on a whole serves a public use. The Supreme Court historically has been fairly derch sha deferential when it comes to land use. And now the question is whether they will be similar given the politics. And the government had an act in 2006 to deal with some parts of the border in the Rio Grande Valley. There is still litigation over some of the Eminent Domain cases arising out of that statute going on 13 years later. One thing we can say with confidence, this wont be resolved any time soon. It will take time for the courts to sort it out. And the president said in the rose garden he is familiar with the way it will play out. This is the president. We will have a National Emergency. We will then be sued. And they will sue us in the ninth circuit. Even though it shouldnt be there. And we will possibly get a bad ruling. And then we will get another bad ruling. And then well ends up in the Supreme Court. And hopefully well get a fair shake. So you have reminded us other cases have been in litigation for 13 years. Is the president talking about a sequence that could last long like that . I mean possibly, fredricka, i think the odds are that these case, the one specifically arising out of the National Emergency declaration will move faster. Because i think were going to see plaintiffs in these cases, seeking a kind of emergency relief, an injunction, and those cases tend to get from trial courts, to circuit courts, to the Supreme Court, much faster, the one important point to say, i think in response to the president , though, is the first of the cases that were filed, they havent all been filed in the ninth circuit in california. Actually one of the most important cases weve seen so far, is filed in the president s backyard in washington. So this isnt going to be about plaintiffs picking judges who are synthetmpathetic to them. This is going to be about courts across the country confronting, with deeply troubling implications of the president s action. All fascinating. Steve, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Well be right back. Its absolute confidence in 30,000 precision parts. Or it isnt. Its inspected by mercedesbenz factorytrained technicians. Or it isnt. 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They range in age from 24 years old, right up to 53 years old. Were also learning the names of the five victims who were killed in this case. Two of them actually worked in Human Resources at the company. In fact, one of them was an intern. It was his very first day as an intern. He was scheduled to graduate in may of this year. Gary martin had been called in for a meeting with Human Resources, because he was to be fired that day, and he was. And immediately afterwards, police say that is when he opened fire. Now the police chief, the local police chief here, said that it is possible that he had a feeling that he was going to get fired, or that something about this meeting maybe gave him the sense that he was likely to be fired. Because he had on him several magazines worth of ammunition. There were three other people who were also shot and killed. One of them was a mold operator. Another was a forklift operator. And the plant manager as well. It is not clear at this point whether or not that was targeted, or whether he was just shooting at random employees at that point. From the first shot that was fired, from when gary martin, this 45yearold suspect, was actually finally taken down by police, it was one hour and 35 minutes. They eventually found him in a back machine shop, he seemed to be waiting for police, because he fired at them, when they went into that area. Heres more from the police chief. The only thing i know is that he was called in. Once again, we can surmise that he was speculative about what was going to happen, as evidenced by him arming himself with a firearm. Thats again, i mean were speculating there. So i dont know exactly what was communicated to him. He did report for a meeting. Where he was terminated. Several were shot in the room with him and there was another on a different level. The fact remains is that some disgruntled person walked in, and had access to a firearm, that he shouldnt have had access to. So gary mart shouldnt not have had access to a firearm because he had a criminal past. Yet in 2014, he purchased a gun after passing a background check. He then applied for a concealed carry permit. And at that point, he had to run his fingerprints through a National Database and they found out that he was a felon, convicted in the 90s, in mississippi. And so at that point, his right to own a weapon was revoked. Just confirmed with the Illinois State police, that they did send him a letter saying you need to turn in your gun license, and in in state they call it a foid card, and also his weapon. And it is not clear that any level of Law Enforcement, whether it was the state police or the local Law Enforcement here, in aurora, actually followed up on that process. From the law, that the local police can petition the court to actually seize that weapon, to get a warrant and seize the weapon, it is not clear where in the chain this system broke down in this case, though. Scott mclean, thank you so much. And stay with us. When we come back, we will talk with congresswoman lucy mcbath who knows firsthand how it feels to lose a loved one in a shooting. And now she is a newlyelected member of congress. Helping to lead a charge to change gun laws. Hello to the best part of the day. And to the best night ever. These are the primo moments. And they call for italian quality pizza. Dough made from scratch daily. Sauce. From the original giammarco recipe. Say hello to an authentic favorite. Times two. Every day at marcos, get two medium, onetopping pizzas for 6. 99 each. Every store. Every day. The italian way. Hello primo. Welcome back. The deadly shooting in aurora, illinois, that claimed the lives of five people came just two days after the House Judiciary Committee advanced its first gun violence legislation bill in years. The bill which would require federal back ground checks for all gun purchases was championed by Committee Member lucy mcbath, a newlyelected democrat from georgia. Congresswoman mcbath tragically lost her own son, he was 17 at the time. Jordan, to gun violence in 2012. Im joined by congresswoman lucy mcbath. Good to see you you. Thank you for having me. This is bittersweet, because today would have been jordans 24th birthday. Yes. Thank you so much. How have you been galvanized by his death, all that you have experienced, to say, you know, instead of lobbying, going after lawmakers, im going to help effect change . Well, i began to recognize, most specifically after the parkland shooting, i wept kating for our legislators to really push back with President Trump, pushing him to do something about this culture, and i thought there would be something done when i saw President Trump sitting with all of our federal legislators at the round table and they were joking and laughing, and President Trump said you dont have to worry about the lobby, and we need background checks. And then within 24 hours, he flipped. And i recognized then that who was going to stand up, and if i had already been working so diligently with, you know, survivors, and lawmakers, and other legislators, in other states, trying to enact some Common Sense Solutions, so that no one would suffer a tragedy, like myself, or the parkland families, that i had already lost enough, i had nothing else to lose, and i myself was going to stand up to challenge washington. So then what does it feel like today, what would have been your sons 24th birthday, and while there is this slice of victory. At the same time, youre thinking about your son. Youre doing it for your son. It is bittersweet. Today would have been jordans 24th birthday and i wonder who would he become, what would he be doing, how would we be celebrating him today. But in a sense, i believe that i am celebrating his life as well as his death, working for Common Sense Solutions, being able to be a part of the legislative body that can really help push the policy forward, to save as many lives as we can. And every day that im there, on the hill, every day that im talking to constituents, every day that i sit in the judiciary meetings, and hearings, i am reminded over and over again, that what im doing really matters. And it Still Matters for jordan. Even though he is not here with us. He is with you. Yes, he is. Spiritually. He is helping you do all of this. Absolutely. So very similar bill. Of expanding background checks. Was defeated in 2013. Particularly in the senate. While you have this support now, in your committee, in the house, are you worried about the next steps for it . Im not worried about the next steps, of course theyre going to be challenging, we do believe we will have full support in the house when we go before the floor, well have the number of votes to pass it on the house. Of course, weve got to take the bill, of course, to the senate, but i truly believe that there are enough of our senators that really believe that this is a Public Health crisis, and that anyone can suffer what happened to parkland. Any community can suffer that. No one is immune to gun violence. It is in every space of america. And i think that constituents even within their own districts are beginning to say, this is a scourge on america, and do you have an accountability and responsibility to keeping us safe. And lets find a way, without infringing upon peoples Second Amendment rights, to make sure that we can balance those rights with Common Sense Solutions to keep us safe. So talk to me about the frustration that comes when another shooting takes place. It was, you know, hard enough, devastating enough, continues to be so, with the passing, with the killing of your son, and then parkland. And then aurora. You know, just yesterday. Talk to me about the frustration that comes with collectively a nation saying this is horrible, this is terrible, this shouldnt happen, but then nothing powerful seems to happen. There is a frustration, because for me, i recognize that this is becoming our new normal, and thats not good. And i recognize that every single day, there are about 100 people every day that continue to die unnecessarily due to our extremist culture, and with our inability to act on these measures, and to push them forth to keep people safe, were going to continue to be this, this country and this nation, that puts guns over god. And public profit with guns over public safety. And we, i just reverse to believe that we are a nation that will continue to live this way. Do you feel like this is a national crisis, that needs addressing, with a declaration of an emergency . I dont like to say that personally, i believe this is a Public Health crisis, personally, i believe that, yes, we are at an emergency state. But i think that we need to make sure that we use the checks and balances, the constitutional responsibility, that myself and my colleagues have, to make sure that were following all of the checks and balances, without deciding that this is an emergency, that really when were circumventing executive oversight. And i dont think that we should be doing that. I think that we should make sure that were following the system, the checks and balances, putting forth these bills and these measures, constitutionally, and in the correct way, to make sure that were really making the best decisions, the most sound decisions, as to what really constitutes an emergency, a National Emergency. This is how House Speaker nancy pelosi sees it. The oneyear anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in america. Thats a National Emergency. Why dont you declare that emergency, mr. President . I wish you would. But a democratic president can do that. Do you see, those are ominous words of what potentially is on the horizon . Im fairly sure that theres going to be far more talk about making sure that we keep americans safe going forward. I know that chairman nadler who i sit under with the judiciary committee, is very, very committed to making sure that were keeping americans safe. I know that speaker pelosi, and a lot of the leaders are very committed. And there are some Senate Members who are also republicans that are also very committed. So im committed to reaching across the aisle to everyone, that is willing to make sure that we do the right thing, and do the right thing by our constituents. Congresswoman lucy mcbath, congratulations again. Thank you very much. Good to see you. And well be right back. From loreal paris. Ra voluptuous volume. Intense length. Featherysoft lashes. This is what paradise looks like. Lash paradise mascara from loreal paris. Take your lashes to paradise. When cravings hit, hit back. 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Current Vice President mike pence was also at the conference, and he told u. S. Allies that the strategy of pulling u. S. Troops in syria out, was not giving up in the fight against isis. This is a change in tactics. Not a change in mission. The United States will keep a strong presence in the region. We recognize it will not be enough to simply reclaim the territory of the caliphate. As we enter this new phase, the United States will continue to work with all of our allies to hunts down the remnants of isis wherever and whenever they rear their ugly head. Cnns Nic Robertson joins me now from munich. Very different messages coming from the sitting and the former Vice President , so how were they received . Reporter yes, fredricka, it was sort of a ying and yang of what u. S. Foreign policy is and could be. You know, you have to say, when listening to Vice President mike pence, he had a very clear message, a direct one for the europeans, on iran, not to undermine u. S. Sanctions on iran, and of course nobody in the audience stands down and says no, we dont like your message mr. Vice president , although we did talk to the foreign minister, for example, of lithuania, who said look, we would like to see more evidence why the United States is making this case. But you know, i think the best way that you could see the difference these two messages, the way these two messages was received between bide be and pence, was the reception that they got from the audience. Biden several times got big rounds of applause. As did nancy pelosi. Sitting in the audience when she was introduced by one of the chairs of the security conference here. So i think there was a real sense of the Foreign Policy that democrats are offering, goes down much better here, right now, than what theyre hearing from republicans, from Vice President mike pence at least. And we got a sense of that from Angela Merkel who questioned the Vice President on the wiseness of pulling out troops, u. S. Troops from syria, saying isnt that just going to give the ground to iran, and to russia . So i think really, the audience here really is shaded way behind bidens approach than it would be the current Vice President. Thats interesting. So then does that mean the european alleys went as far as displaying whether they would look beyond the Trump Administration . You know, you certainly get a sense of the discussions here, and its not just from the europeans as well. You know, i went to a speech by former u. S. Ambassador douglas lut and former ambassador Nicholas Burns talking about the strategies and the difficulties that nato faces right now, and there is a real sense that there is a need for u. S. Leadership in the world. Not just at nato but many other international bodies. The german chancellor Angela Merkel alluded to this as well. So there is this sort of sense and hope that these issues are stacking up, that they need to be addressed. One of the fundamental things going on here, fredricka, quite frankly, is a real recognition that the world order is changing. Its not the old world order. Its not just changing. Its changed. So there is a hope here that a u. S. Leadership will emerge that wants to embrace some of the things that has made the democratic countries of the world stronger. So yes, there is a sense that it is just a couple of years for the next u. S. Election. And if there is a democrat, then it may be more to europes liking. But that doesnt go to say, of course, that they wouldnt respect and respond positively to a Republican Leadership either. But there is a real sense that beyond President Trump, there is something else, and that would be preferable to many of leaders who are here. All right. Nic robertson, in munich, thank you so much. And thank you for being with me this saturday. 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