The short answer to your question is at least they are talking. It seems for the past 29 days, this has just been a staring contest between congressional leaders and the white house. But now were actually seeing some tangible offers being put on the table. Lets talk about this proposal from democrats. Theyre going to basically do it through a serie of legislative packages that theyre going to pass and then hand over to the senate and then allow the republicans in the senate to do with them as they see fit. Within these packages there will be an additional 1 billion in funding for what theyre calling Border Security. And within that funding, were seeing this. 524 million in additional infrastructure, at points of entry, and then 563 million for funding for 75 immigration judges. Now, theres two problems with this from the white house perspective. First, its only 1 billion. They want closer to 6 billion for Border Security and, of course, it has absolutely nothing to do with the border wall which means, remains the president s sticking point. We know the president s ready to put an offer on the table later this afternoon. The democrats are going to present this in a series of legislative packages this week to the senate. The fundamental problem, between both sides, remains the same. The president wants a wall, Congressional Democrats do not want a wall. Well have to see if now that theyre offering a little bit of extra incentives on either side of the table, if one of these sides decides to move in either direction, fred. All right, ryan nobles, thank you. The president s announcement expected four hours roughly from now. And we are starting to hear details about what he is ready to offer democrats. Joining me from the white house, cnns White House Reporter jeremy diamond. What can we expect from the president . Now that the president s also hearing about this 1 billion proposed from democrats, hes likely to respond to that as well, right . Thats right. What were expected to hear from the president this afternoon is the outlines of the first kind of major compromise proposal that the president is putting forward to democrats here. He is going to tell democrats, look, if you give me 5. 7 billion for the border wall, something that the president has been demanding throughout this Government Shutdown, in exchange, the president is expected to announce this afternoon that he will sign legislation protecting those undocumented immigrants who came to the u. S. As children. Those dreamers that we have heard so much about. And also extend Legal Protections for those covered under the temporary protected status program. Thats a lot of immigrants who came to the u. S. Because of farm disasters. Those were specific declarations. Of course the president would restore protections, protections that he himself stripped during his time in office. Last year, of course, he stripped the daca program, which was put into law or put into executive action, rather, by president obama, as well as some of these temporary protected status protections. But this is the first assem ble assembleance of a proposal from the white house. The question is how will the white house react to this. They have talked about the possibility of a border wall in exchange for granting citizenship to some dreamers. This is simply extending the Legal Protections for some of these undocumented immigrants. So what will democrats do now will be the big question. But certainly the president will put this proposal to democrats and to the American People this afternoon. Now expected for 4 p. M. Jeremy diamond at the white house, thank you. Lets dive into this. Former michigan governor Jennifer Granholm and charlie dent, former republican congressman from pennsylvania. Good to see you both. Good to see you. Good to be with you. Jennifer, in just a matter of hours, the president wants to make this offer to democrats to try to end this shutdown. This extension of, you know, daca protections in exchange for wall funding. Is he going to be getting the democrats attention on this . Im sorry, who was that directed to . For you, jennifer, governor. Okay, great. Call me jennifer, its good. I really think that movement on both sides is really good thing for those 800,000 employees, right . So democrats had remember that the president originally had asked for 1. 6 billion in his budget request. The democrats offered to give him that. In this Homeland Security budget, theyve offered 1. 3 billion for Border Security and now theyre going to add another 1 billion on top of that for other Border Security type of measures including technology. I think this is all going to come down to how you define the word wall. Is it an electronic barrier and democrats are willing to, you know, provide funding for that . Is there more Detection Technology . Or is it purely a bridge and the mo more, a brick and mortar wall . I think the daca solution is very positive. Charlie do you see its a matter of semantics, you know, arguing over, you know, how to define Border Security . Is it barriers, is it wall, is it technology . Is that the fine tuning that is standing in the way of coming to a deal . Well, it seems like were at the point where there can be real negotiation. Look, ive said all a long the way out of this thing is to reopen the government and then simply negotiation probably 2 billion to 3 billion at the end of the day for Border Security. Now define that. Border agents. Technology. A whole number of things. In exchange for that, real protection to the daca population. Is that what its being hung up, on the language there or in the amount . Well, both. I dont think the democrats will agree to 5. 6 billion. But i do think that theyll be under tremendous pressure to agree to some number, between 1. 6 and 5. 7. Theyll have to take a number sooner or later. The president s own rhetoric is not hoelpful. He is incapable of articulate ago plan to establish operational control of the border. Which is far more expansive than just simple barriers or walls. So i think thats really been a big part of the problem. The president s own rhetoric. By the way, i was one of the original cosponsors of the secure fence act of 2006, so i know a little bit about this issue. Theres an easy path forward here for both sides to come to an agreement. Its a tragedy that weve had to go through a Government Shutdown all these days s to get to thi point. Simply reopen the government and negotiate this and pass the Homeland Security bill. This isnt that hard. In one respect, the president said look forward to this major announcement, now scheduled for 4 00. Then this morning on his way to Dover Air Force base, he said this about where he, you know, is still digging in his heels. We have a lot of people in caravans coming up. If we had a wall, we wouldnt have a problem. We have too many open areas. The walls that we fixed and the walls that we built hold beautifully. Everybody knows that walls work. The Border Patrol has done an incredible job. But we need the help and the backdrop of a wall. So, jennifer, is the cat already out of the bag . The major announcement, you know, hes saying, look, the wall is the wall and its going to be here. Just days eric t s ago the hous said theres no money for a wall. Then confirming this 1 billion offer in additional funding but not for the wall. Well, what about this does he not understand . People who are coming are coming largely to proclaim asylum. And they dont do it at unwalled portions of the border. They do it at the ports of entry. I dont know how many times this has to be pointed out to him, that a wall will not fix that. A wall will not fix the bringing across of drugs when 90 of them are brought across in vehicles. What will stop hes arguing it will be effective. But hes wrong. He continues to argue it will be effective, acting as a deterrent, barrier, to drugs, you know, or bad actors from coming across the border. He can say that all he wants but the facts are in opposite direction. What will help is better detection and better security. Yes, we should put some money into drones and yes we should have more immigration judges. Which the democrats are going to be are putting on the into funding. But he cant just because he continues to repeat a lie doesnt mean its true and doesnt mean that we should be funding something that is ineffective and a lie. So charlie, you know, i spoke with a contract worker who has not been working for the past month like a lot of contractors and federal workers and without a paycheck. Earlier, she said, shes going to be watching this scheduled announcement from the president but all she wants to hear is when is government going to be open. And based on what were hearing so far in terms of the sign posting of, you know, his demands on border wall funding, do you have any confidence that the president is going to be able to say yb my major announcement is government is going to be up and running again . Well, heres really the issue, i think the best path forward is simply to pass those six appropriation bills now and then do a shortterm extension. And then negotiate does he seem amenable to that . Thats what i want to hear from the president today. I hope he agrees to reopening the government now so they can have this negotiation without this enormous pressure placed on all these people, you know, who are going without pay. That would be the best way to deal with it. If the president wants to negotiation this thing while government is shut down, i think this could take a while. There are still a lot of fine points here to be negotiated on tps, daca. Theres a lot involved here. But you can easily reach an agreement. With the pressure of a shutdown, its horrible. I think it would be i hope the president today says were going to reopen the government and were going to negotiate this by a date certain. All right, we shall see. Four hours away and counting. Jennifer granholm, charlie dent, appreciate it. Up next, a cloud of controversy hanging over the womens march as tens of thousands participate in events across the country. Well take you to some of the marches live. And later, four americans killed in an attack in syria. 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Lets begin in the Nations Capital with cnn correspondent jessica dean. What kind of turnout has occurred . I want to let you take a look at the crowd here behind me. We have a big crowd here but it is certainly smaller than it has been in years past as you mentioned, there is some controversy surrounding the leadership of the womens march. Were also of course in washington, d. C. Where the shutdown remains in effect. Were dealing with that, smaller resources and also the weather not expected to be tremendous today so it is a bit of a smaller crowd but the people we have talked to certainly passionate. They all believe firmly they need to be here, two years after President Trump went into office, to continue to protest against him, his administration and a lot of the policies that he is trying to put in place or has put into place. We talked to one mother and daughter who flew here from houston. Another one from north carolina. Theyre coming from all over the country to be here. Interestingly, though, theres also a counterprotest that is with women who say they dont feel included here. Conservative women, women who are antiabortion, they are having a counterprotest not too far from here. Thats kind of what were seeing here in washington. The march portion of all of this wrapping up. Now the rally starting to take place. All right, jessica dean, thank you so much. Lets go north to boston. Cnn National Correspondent erica hill is there for the march under way. Fredricka, were hearing some similar things. Most of the folks weve spoken with here are local. Most of the people i spoke with from the state of massachusetts, so not too far outside of boston. But there was concern moving into the march about just what this march stood for. This is one of hundreds of marches planned locally around the country. The executive director of womens forward massachusetts, which is behind this march, told me that that has overshadowed, in fact, this effort and efforts around the country, having to continuously answer questions about who is this march for. She told me they want everyone to feel welcome here. This is a march for all women and for all people. We are expecting in just a few minutes from now to hear from representative aiota presley. She of course is the first black woman elected to represent the state of massachusetts in congress. Shes one of the few elected officials who had been confirmed as a speaker at any of these events. The other of course being senator gillibrand whos also a 2020 hopeful whos in iowa this morning speak at an event there. She put denouncing antisemitism and noting it has no police in any movement. Erica hill, thank you so much. Jessica dean, also, in d. C. , appreciate it. All right, weve got so much more straight ahead right after this. 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I think its the toughest thing i have to do. When im going to meet relatives of some of our great, great heroes that have fallen, i think it might be the toughest thing i have to do as president. This attack was the largest loss of American Life in syria since the counter isis Campaign Began in 2014. Chief petty officer shannon kent was a 35yearold navy chief cryptologic technician from upstate new york. A cancer survivor, a wife, a mother of two young boys. Her Commanding Officers describe her as a rock star with infectious determination and tenacity. Army chief warrant officer jonathan farmer did six overseas combat tours since he joined the army in 2005. He was from boynton beach, florida. And scott wirtz was an Operations Support specialist. The st. Louis native called a true patriot by his supporters. The fourth american killed, ghadir taher was an interpreter. She was living in east point, georgia. Three other americans were wounded. Our deepest condolences to their families and friends. This deadly attack comes less than a month after the president s surprise announcement to withdraw u. S. Troops from syria. Today, during a trip to turkey, senator Lindsey Graham addressed his concerns on the withdrawal in light of the recent attack. The road map to manjib is the most important thing to be accomplished in the near term. So i would hope that President Trump would slow the withdrawal until we truly destroyed isis and see if we can implement the road map to manjib as a confidence building measure. Working with turkey, allow the people of manjib to come up with a governing structure acceptable to turkey and the region. If we do not do this, our withdraw is going to create holy hell for turkey. Joining me now to discuss, professor of International Relations at the London School of economics, farwaz ghiriz, also the author of making the arab world. Good to see you, professor. Thank you. The u. S. Still has about 2,000 troops in syria with no specific date set for their withdrawal. In their view what statement was made by that recent attack that cost the lives of four u. S. Personnel . The statement is loud and clear. Isis has been degraded, but not defeated. Theres a big difference, as you know, between being degraded and being defeated. Even though, to be fair to President Trump, he really doesnt care about nuances and distinctions and even facts. According to his own defense department, and according to all we know about isis, they are still between 2,000 and 10,000 active isis combatants in syria. Only in syria. Some sources say 15,000. So the reality is not really about bringing american troops backhoe, and they should come home, ultimately. Its the timing of the decision and the manner by which the decision was made by President Trump. He criticized president obama for basically limiting the presence of american troops in the world and basically advertising american strategy to americas enemies. Here you have President Trump advertising his strategy to isis and more importantly, from my point of view, throwing americas allies, the kurds, under the bus, who have fought with American Forces for four years, and they have lost more than 6,000 kurdish fighters, fighting alongside American Forces in syria. So near simultaneous to that attack, this was the message coming from the Vice President mike pence. Thanks to the leadership of this commander in chief and the courage and sacrifice of our armed forces, were now actually able to begin to hand off the fight against isis in syria to our Coalition Partners and were bringing our troops home. The caliphate has crumbled. Isis has been defeated. Theres that language youre talking about. So pence did release a statement condemning the attack but also maintains that isis has been devastated instead of defeated. Does that suffice . I have a book on isis called isis, a history. Although the physical caliphate that isis established in syria and iraq has been mostly, mostly, dismantled, isis has been able to restructure its forces and shift to a new face of fighting called insurgency. Units fighting, sleeping cell, like the sleeping cell that targeted American Forces in manjib. In fact, in my humble views, the next fight against isis in syria, not to mention iraq, libya, egypt and yemen, is as difficult as the first phase. Before we celebrate defeat of isis one more point to your american viewers. It was president barack obama who set up american strategy in syria and iraq. He started the fight against isis. What President Trump did was to escalate, speed up, basically letting american commanders take action into their own hands. Sadly, hundreds of civilians have been killed in syria and iraq as a result of President Trumps basically empowering american commanders to basically use this proportionate force against isis. So the reality is the fight against isis has a long way to go. What saddens me myself as an educator is that millions of fellow americans, fellow citizens, still basically take the president s words very seriously. The reality is, and with all humility, this president has mastered the art of falsehood, including he used to say that president barack obama is the founder of isis during his president ial campaign and now hes celebrating defeat of isis, even though theres a long, long way to go. All right. Well leave it there for now. Professor, always good to see you, thank you so much. Thank you. All right. The stage is set for another highstakes meeting between President Trump and north Korean Leader kim jongun. 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Here are those moments from dover. The americans who are being honored, shannon kent, jonathan farmer, scott and ghadir. This is a very somber moment. Family members of the americans killed are also present at this ceremony. And the president said earlier before departing for dover that this is one of the most difficult moments of his job, is meeting with the families, americans killed in hostile areas and those bodies being returned to Dover Air Force base. And these are the pictures of the four americans killed. Again, jonathan farmer, shannon kent, scott wirtz and ghadir taher. And our respects to those family members and to the fallen. Again, these images just now coming in from Dover Air Force base. With this contingent paying their respects to the bodies of the four americans. This was just earlier in the week, in which the americans were killed at a fairly populated location, in a restaurant in syria. And happened near simultaneous to the same time when the Trump Administration said isis had been defeated. Then that Suicide Attack took place. Again, now, the president paying respects to the americans fallen. Now the bodies of the four americans being removed. During this very somber ceremony. Again, the names of the fallen americans there, chief petty officer shannon kent, a 35yearold navy chief crypto logic technician from upstate new york, she was a cancer survivor, a wife, a mother of two young boys, according to stars and stripes. Her Commanding Officers describe her as a rock star with infectious determination and tenacity. Army chief warrant officer jonathan farmer was a 37yearold married father of four who did six overseas combat tours since he joined the army in 2005. He was from boynton beach, florida. Scott wirtz was a navy s. E. A. L. Before joining as an operation support specialist. The st. Luis native called a true patriot by his supervisors. The fourth american killed, ghadir taher was working as an interpreter, living in east point, georgia. Three american americans were also wounded at the time. Again, this is now the largest loss of American Life in syria since the counter isis Campaign Began in 2014. There is no sound from this moment. We will allow you to watch this somber moment here at Dover Air Force base. Our con doleances to those four americans and their family members. Well be right back. Hey, darryl hey, thomas. If you were choosing a network, would you want the one the experts at rootmetrics say is number one in the nation . Sure, they probably know what theyre talking about. Or the one that j. D. Power says is highest in Network Quality by people who use it every day . This is a tough one. Well, not really, because verizon won both. So you dont even have to choose. Why didnt you just lead with that . Its like a fun thing. vo chosen by experts. Chosen by you. And now get apple music included, on us. 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What are the possible locations where this second summit could happen . Fred, my sources are telling me the overwhelming odds are theyre going to do this in vietnam. One, its about a fourhour flight from pyongyang so its easy for kim jongun to get there. Also vietnam has good ties with north korea and the u. S. And is an example of a country that emerged from the ashes of a war with the United States, has reinvented its economy and is a Success Story and potentially a model for north korea to follow if they do open up ek knollically as kim jocken h jon stated his goal is. Have we heard about those meetings at the white house and about the prospects of the second summit . No Public Comments yet from kim jongun. We know he wrote a letter to President Trump that was delivered at the white house, right around the time of that 90 minute meeting in washington. It was a cordial letter, accepting trumps invitation for a summit. Alluding to program behind the scenes. We know the u. S. And north korea have talked about ways to come together on this issue of denuclearization, to try to find a comcompromise. North korea basically wants Economic Relief right away. They want the u. S. To lift sanctions in exchange for a small step toward denuclearization. The u. S. Has stated, and even press secretary Sarah Sanders said just yesterday theyre not going to lift sanctions until north korea gives up all nuclear weapons. If that continues tonight u. S. Stance, its hard to see where this goes. If the u. S. Is willing to compromise on the issue of sanctions, if north koreas willing to take actual steps, which thus far they havent, then there could be something accomplished, as opposed to another photo op and vague Statement Like what we saw in singapore back in june. Will ripley, thank you. President trump pulled the plug on House Speaker nancy pelosi taking a military aircraft to visit afghanistan. 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President trumps state of the Union Address is the latest Collateral Damage as the shutdown enters its fifth week. Pelosi called on him to delay the address until the government opens. Homeland security secretary nielsen objected to pelosis request. She says the department of Homeland Security and the u. S. Secret service are fully prepared to support and secure this state of the union. Lets bring in former secret Service Agent for president obama. Good to see you. With pelosi citing security concerns due to the lapse in funding, you know, in contrast with dhs, you know, along with secret service saying they are prepared, what should anyone think . I think what we all should be thinking is once again protection is being politicized. So it really comes down to a matter of perspective and how youre going to lack ook at thi situation. The secret service, in a Government Shutdown, was successfully able to take the president of the United States to a war zone, to iraq. The fact they were able to do that, i think they can bring him to capitol hill and secure that site. They are present paired. Secretary nielsen is correct. Believe dhs is prepared, you know, from their perspective on the preparedness of this National Special security event. Its less about the present pairedness and more about the performance of different entities that are, you know, supporting the mission of the secret service under this National Special security event. Because of any stresses that come with the fact that there is the furlough, people are not receiving paychecks absolutely. I think its better to take a step back and just understand that a National Special security event is set up to bring to bear the full resoreurces, the full resources, of the federal government. As part of aagency. However, they dont do it alone. They rely heavily on other federal agencies who are currently, you know, affected by the Government Shutdown. They are they utilize support from not only the military but state and local assets as well. So i think you have to look at its totality. How well prepared are individuals in the event of an emergency, in the event of an incident, to bring to bear the their phases . So in any way, do you see that this shutdown has, you know, stressed or compromised security of this nation . No. Listen, i see in todays in the current state right now, i mean, theres Financial Stresses. The men and women who execute these security plans are dedicated. They realize they are mission driven. They are trying their very best week after week as this shutdown continues on. To put their personal Financial Stress aside to be mission focused. I think in the current state, what will happen over time, what youll see is morale starts to deteriorate. It goes back to performance. Theres a direct correlation between morale and performance. As morale starts to deteriorate, you know, next friday, the next paycheck comes, theres going to be zeros on it. Think you will start seeing morale deteriorate. This second, you know, paycheck period in january is fast approaching. You know, people who are going without have their fingers crossed that somethings going to give soon but the longer this goes on, talk to me more about those stresses, the kind of deterioration, you know, of morale. Listen this comes down to, you know, leadership of different organizations really have to do some creative Resource Management to address the stress that the morale has on the ajgency itself and the individuals. I think weve seen different managers addresses those stresses for the state of the union. Again this is about Resource Management. Maybe shifting away from, you know, federal employees that are affected, in this unpaid, unappreciated status. May be relying a little more on the military assets who are getting paid who can support the mission for the state of the Union Address. Jonathan, thank you so much. Always good to see you. Thank you. All right, style is a window into, you know, everything. It tells a story, doesnt it right . The cnn original series american style continues into the 1980s tomorrow on cnn. Thanks for being with me this saturday. Im fredricka whitfield. Were entering week five of the longest u. S. Government shutdown in history. 800,000 federal workers still without a paycheck as democrats and republicans battle it out over President Trumps demands for a border wall. Today, the president will once again take his argument to the American People, promising, quoting now, a major announcement concerning the southern border. A source tells cnn the president is expected to propose extending protections for Daca Recipients in exchange for a wall. Something the president is not willing to back down on. I hope that speaker pell l e can realize what everybody knows. No matter who it is. They know that walls work. And we need walls. Whether its personal or not, its not personal for me. Shes being controlled by the radical left, which is the problem, and, you know, shes under total control of the radical left. I think thats a very bad thing for her. I think its a very bad thing for the