Comeys firing to the Russian Investigation which helped spark this Counter Intelligence probe. Heres one of those moments. Regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made up story, its an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. A second instance, a draft letter the president intended to send to comey listing the reasons that he was firing him, but his lawyer blocked him from sending it according to New York Times. This sparked an angry tirade from the president via twitter this morning. Cnns erica orton joins me. What more can you tell me about the investigation and status of it now . Reporter this is two elements of one investigation. Obstruction of justice inquiry, which is a criminal matter, and the counterintelligence investigation. That we know or reporting has shown has been taken over by Robert Muellers team. It is not clear what the current status of that counterintelligence investigation is, but it is possible that in the coming weeks and months as the mueller team writes its report and issues that report, that we might see some conclusions from that investigation or some information from it included in that report. All right. Erica orden, thank you for that. Lets talk further about this, how the white house and president are pushing back on the report and investigation. Cnn White House ReporterSarah Westwood joining me. We know the president is not happy, he has tweeted quite a bit. But extrapolate further on exactly what the president is thinking. Reporter fred, President Trump and the white house are slamming the fbi in the wake of these reports that counterintelligence agents were looking into whether President Trump was working on behalf of russia against u. S. Interests in the days after he fired former fbi director james comey. As you mentioned, White House Press secretary Sarah Sanders calls this counterintelligence probe absurd. President trump has been vocal on twitter this morning, going after comey, his former deputy, andrew mccabe, calling them corrupt, and claiming that the counterintelligence probe was opened for no reason and with no proof. New york times cited two instances that trump directly tied his decision to fire comey to the russia investigation. Thats what the New York Times says, why investigators opened that obstruction of justice inquiry after comeys firing. This counterintelligence is another aspect of that inquiry. A counterintelligence is not necessarily criminal in nature. According to reporting, investigators on the counterintelligence side of the fbi first had their interest peaked by President Trump in july, 2016, calling on russia to leak Hillary Clintons hacked email. Thats sort of the kind of thing they were looking at. All of this got folded into muellers broader investigation of election meddling. So it is unclear how long the counterintelligence probe lasted, but clearly the white house lashing out at news that it existed in the first place. All of this comes as the White House Legal Team is preparing for what could be the release of the Mueller Report soon. Sources tell cnn the White House Legal Team hired 17 new lawyers, ahead of what could be in the months ahead dramatic conclusion to the russia intrigue. Thank you so much. Keep us posted. One of the reporters that broke that New York Times story talked to cnn about why this is so significant. The way these things are supposed to work is were not supposed to find out about them, okay, that the fbi investigates somebody, a counterintelligence investigation, maybe they suspect russia, they investigate, to it quietly, it goes away. The firing of comey and referencing of the Russian Investigation by the president , and the second aspect to that, lester holt interview on nbc news, he said we did it because of russia. And the fbi is watching this and they say hes telling us why he did this. He did this on behalf of russia. Within days of that, they opened up this multi tiered investigation that has a criminal aspect and counterintelligence aspect. Joining me to talk further about this, retired fbi supervisory special agent, cnn analyst james galliano, and assistant director for Congressional Affairs formerly, greg broward. Good to see you both. There has to be a lot there or a lot of red flags for the fbi to launch both a criminal probe and counterintelligence probe, right . Thats fair, fred. Lets make a distinction for the viewers here that there are two separate standards. In a criminal investigation, youre looking for information or allegations that lead you to collect evidence to lead to potential indictment, prosecution, conviction. On the counterintelligence side, the fbi has been working these investigations since 1917. It is a different standard. Youre looking to push back on foreign actors, foreign state actors like north korea or iran, china, russia, that might be trying to influence an election, might be trying to steal state secrets or intellectual property. I think the Mueller Report will answer those questions fairly, whether or not theres objection of justice on of criminal side, did those things that happen, President Trumps own tweets and statements, is that indicia of obstruction of justice and whether or not if they were able to determine if he was waitia wg or unwitting acome list to the kremlin. It will come down to investigate the investigation itself, crossfire hurricane, to determine whether or not any fbi processes, protocols or doj protocols werent followed, and lastly, i think exposure for the president is less in this instance than it will be when Michael Cohen testifies. I think exposure and damage done by the upcoming testimony will have far more impact and ramifications than what New York Times reported on as far as the counterintelligence investigation and obstruction of justice case. Greg, if Law Enforcement isnt debating if the fbi overstepped its bounds by launching probes, when you look at these items that were spelled out in New York Times that precipitated probes from the firing of comey to the letter that trump wrote that was not sent out because it did show there was correlation between the Russian Investigation and firing, and then challenging Hillary Clinton on the campaign trail or challenging russia on the campaign trail, if you can hack her emails, if youre listening, assist, et cetera. All of those examples, does that say that investigators overstepped bounds by following up on those leads . Well, i would say as a former federal prosecutor and senior doj official, i of course have been on the inside of more fbi investigations than i could describe on this show, and typically when you see this kind of criticism from the outside, it is the classic sort of armchair quarterbacking that cant be trusted to be credible at all. I think thats what were seeing and have seen throughout this investigation. I think the real point that people should take from this story is that the real issue would be if the fbi when confronted with the facts that have been reported, if the fbi did not open an investigation with senior level approval which would have been required, that would be a story. The fact that the fbi did apparently have proper predication and as a result did apparently open up this investigation when it did with senior level authority, it is interesting but it should satisfy the American People that the fbi is apolitical, that it views anyone and everyone as not being above the law, whether it is the president of the United States or anyone else, and if the facts are there, theyre going to open up an investigation. Thats to take away from the reporting. Thats among the moments that had many aghast when the words were uttered. Listen. Russia, if youre listening, i hope youre able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. At first, you know, while there were all of these other threads, the times said the fbi held off on opening an investigation into the president in part because they were uncertain how to proceed with the inquiry because it is a sensitive matter, because of the magnitude. So then james, what would be the Tipping Point when theres that reticence for the fbi collectively and then theres a decision that we have a lot of material here that weve got to followup on. Sure. Fred, you listen to those remarks from the president on the campaign trail, and are they in tem pore at, reckless, inappropriate, absolutely. Now, can we pull on the thread and take it back to having active collusion going on with the kremlin . Thats the part that im a cautious skeptic about. To gregs point, youre right. Things had to be signed up on the most Upper Echelon levels of the fbi and doj, up to and including the Deputy Attorney general and probably the attorney general himself. Why is that . Any investigation into a clergy men, journalist or politician requires separate higher level of signoff. Theres scrutiny at so many levels. James comey called it a 500 year flood and i agree. In 2016 he and his team were faced with tough choices. Easy for people like me to look back years later and say you should have done this, should have done that. The only thing i am concerned about and i think well find out when the report is released into the investigation, did the fbi follow all processes and protocols or were they driven by emotion. Sometimes it happens. I spent 25 years doing investigations. Emotions can sometimes take hold but that cant happen. The fbi has to be the calm in the chaos. When i read that last night in New York Times, that wasnt the feeling i walked away with. And greg, do you feel this material is public a year and a half after the fact it precipitated, the fbi investigation precipitated the special counsel investigation, do you feel that because it is public now that is an indicator that the special counsel probe is soon to end . Not necessarily, fred, no. Theres been a lot of speculation about the timing of the conclusion of the special counsel probe. It is hard to predict. The grand jury was extended. That may or may not mean that more activity is to come. I would be hesitant to try to game out the timing of the conclusion of the investigation. All right. Greg, james, always good to see you. Thus nar, it is nthe longes shutdown in history. Cnn speaks to a pregnant tsa worker struggling to make ends meet, this as 800,000 workers ask when will they get paid. [leaf blower] you should be mad at leaf blowers. [beep] you should be mad your neighbor always wants to hang out. And you should be mad your smart fridge is unnecessarily complicated. 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House democrats passed smaller spending bills to fund several agencies, but without the president s support, Senate Republicans refused to call votes on any of the measures. Meanwhile, the people really feeling the pain are the federal workers, their families, contractors who have not been able to work or are working without pay while bills are piling up. Lets bring in Dianne Gallagher who is listening to stories of workers. Theyre frustrated. Theyre frustrated and scared. You mentioned movement. Thats what most workers told me they noticed. They dont see an end in sight. I went to little rock, arkansas where i met a tsa worker thats still working without a paycheck. Shes six months pregnant. Says now it is starting to effect her health. This is before work, her morning routine. Coffee for my husband, fix my childs lunch, i have to get his backpack together. Reporter wrangling a fouryearold while six months pregnant, not easy. But working three weeks without pay with no end in sight. Im not getting anything and i was expecting that. Reporter makes it even harder. I grew up at tsa, 13 years. 13 years on monday. Reporter along with thousands of other Transportation Security Administration officers, aria has been working throughout the partial Government Shutdown. But today is pay day and her check isnt coming. Reality is the fear of not knowing when im going to receive that check. And then this is going to cause a Ripple Effect on our income here. Reporter she says her husbands job helps to ease their financial burden, but thats not the case for many of her colleagues at the airport in little rock. We have a list of who you are able to contact at food pan trees. And the longer it lasts, stuff for the baby, daycare, they become more difficult to swing. I cant tell the daycare worker hey, i cant pay you. Thats our biggest fear, the unknown. So i dont know how long we are equipped for it, and when pregnant, i cant just go pick up a job. Reporter a veteran officer, she doesnt want another job, saying she takes her mission seriously no matter what. I wouldnt clock in if im not giving 100 . I go in, give 100 , and not getting paid is hard. Reporter especially when the president says the shutdown is all about national security. Shouldnt we be part of that partial shutdown, the one who receives pay . I think were pretty essential. Reporter does back pay help if it comes three months later . Back pay doesnt help three months later because im already three months behind. Reporter she hopes it ends soon so she can spend her Maternity Leave bonding with her daughter instead of looking for a job. I asked her what would you Tell Congress and what do you want to hear. She said please act like theres some urgency here because it is urgent for us. The uncertainty makes it worse, she already has a complicated pregnancy, it is making it worse, the additional stress. They Want Congress to act like theres urgency and get something done. Worry some for 800,000 people and beyond. More than half those are going to work every day, not getting paid every day, not getting paid. Thanks for bringing that story. Appreciate it. Lets talk more about all of this with assistant editor at the the washington post, David Swerdlick and margaret telev who covers bloomberg news. You hear examples like that. We have been hearing from federal workers over three weeks time about concerns, worries, et cetera, and it was just last weekend when the president said he has a lot of expectations that federal workers will make adjustments. But does it seem as though lawmakers and the president are really empathizing with these struggles, margaret . If so, wouldnt there be greater urgency to come to the table to do something . Well, fred, theres two ways to look at it. One, are lawmakers in a position they cant pay their bills, at risk of losing health care, and the answer is no. That probably makes them less empathetic from an instinctive perspective. I think also, both sides see something bigger than this right now for them, in the risk reward category. Neither side is ready to give a little bit. We are as of today in a situation where this is the longest federal Government Shutdown in history, where the president is vacillating about whether or not to declare a National Emergency to get out of it, and where the administration is preparing for another six weeks worth of the shutdown continuing, in terms of contingency options. So where things stand at this point seems to be that the white house, President Trump is hoping if this goes on longer, the American Public stops blaming him. David, is that likely to happen, is it the president that will get the blame, when it comes to the giving margaret was talking about, it appears that he is the one thats giving very little when you have lawmakers who have been proposing plans that mean some border spending, not perhaps 5. 7 for a wall but a reduced figure. It is the president saying thats the figure that i want, period, and not budging. Good morning, fred. Margaret is right, we havent seen political incentives on either side take shape yet. You have people like miss smithphillips who diane interviewed that are already feeling the pain, and i suspect most federal employees are in that boat. They want to do their jobs but also want to get paid for doing their jobs. On one hand, you have democrats that just won a congressional election, feel like they have the wind at their backs, want to challenge the president. On the other hand, you have President Trump who has a 42 Approval Rating in real clear politics average, low unemployment, stock market up 20 since he took office, he feels like he is in position where he can stand his ground. Even though, yes, the democrats have a number between 0 and 1 billion or 1. 6 billion, the president has a number between 5 and 5. 7 billion. This is less about the money in my view and where the money comes out and more about the republican or president ial view of how the border should be enforced versus the democrats view which is yes, the border sh should be enforced but not with a wall. We also saw one of the more revealing tweets from President Trump about whats motivating him where he talks about how he does really have a plan for the shutdown, but how he ran on a promise to build a wall. He says elections have consequences. It is interesting. Of course elections have consequences but it doesnt mean people who oppose the president s ideas have to give him what he wants because he won the election. I think what he might really be saying is elections have consequences when you run for reelection, and that he is now in a problem as we head to 2020, where if he doesnt deliver the wall or at least dig into the max, theres going to be a whole core of his base, supporters that voted for him because he promised to do it. And he promised that mexico would pay for it. And that, too, is at the nucleus of this funding the wall issue. So the president while temporarily may have abandoned the National Emergency idea, he is still investigating using unspent money for areas hit by natural disasters like puerto rico, florida, texas, california, and Speaker Pelosi sent a note to democratic colleagues vowing to fight that through legal action. This is what she writes in part, saying now President Trump is threatening to grant himself extraordinary powers to steal billions of dollars from disaster impacted communities, military, and urgent civil works projects in order to build his wall. Leadership in our committees are working together to develop legal policy and communications responses should they be needed. David, this really is a powerful struggle pitting nancy pelosi and her power and the president and his power, and theyre coming head to head. Who will give in . Who will budge . It is not clear. Look, the constitution gives congress the power to allocate money, gives the president power to run the government, and i think thats embedded in that statement from Speaker Pelosi. In terms of whether the president has the authority to declare this an emergency, take money from other parts of the government and build the wall on that basis, that may wind upcoming down to a legal fight, but i think politically, it will be hard for the white house to square the circle that this is a National Emergency, that they now have articulated in the last two weeks when they werent articulating it as a National Emergency in the last two years, fred. I think democrats will hit the white house on that point, although this may wind up going to court if the white house goes down that road. Margaret, last word . I think the president for now has sort of put a hold on the National Emergency, but i dont think thats a permanent decision by any means and theres some irony in the threat to take away use of emergency funds for california, to redirect it to what the president says is a National Emergency, it is complicated, but politics is steeped through this policy debate, and for now at least, no end in sight. Operative words, for now. For now. Thanks so much. Appreciate it. Still ahead, why many Border Patrol agents are having to leave the front line for other roles as the Government Shutdown continues. When you have nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Girl, pepto ultra coating will treat your stomach right. Nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea. Try pepto with ultra coating. Got it. Ran out of ink and i have a big meeting today and 2 boxes of twizzlers. Yeah, uh. For the team. The team . Gooo team. 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Customs and Border Protection is forced to move agents to desk duty to replace hundreds of furloughed employees. Cnn correspondent Polo Sandoval joins us from hidalgo, texas. Theyre forcing Border Patrol to make extraordinary changes. Reporter yeah, fred. In the last hour, we relocated to mission, texas. Thats mexico off in the distance. Border security is a linchpin issue at the heart of the shutdown. One of the ironies is that shutdown and back and forth between democrats and republicans about how to secure the border is now effecting men and women that protect the actual border. We like to come out and relax, see if we can catch fish. Reporter 1700 miles from d. C. Gridlock, south texas resident deanna casts her line into the river that divides the u. S. And mexico. This stretch of the rio grande is protected in part by agents assigned to the busiest sector in the country. Since the start of the partial shutdown, a new challenge for the 3800 agents, filling roles left vacant by furloughed employees, answering phones, processing paperwork, helping care for detainees. Some agents had to leave the front line to perform administrative tasks. We had to pull some agents off the line. We have agents that are engaged in the humanitarian mission which is processing and other things we have to do. Fortunately we have sufficient amount of personnel in the field. I think were able to bring in 75 officers from some of the r other sectors. He met personally with President Trump. From one chief to another, he told the president he supports building of additional segments of border barrier. I do think it is an emergency. I think we need to put the energy and focus on whats happening here so we can improve the Border Security situation. Reporter back on the banks of the rio grand, santana and her husband feel at ease. We feel safe. I dont think theres any danger. You might see it in the news sometimes, they caught people, people are crossing, but we have never seen that. Reporter she lived here all her life, says she doesnt agree with the picture of a crisis painted by the president. She feels border fencing is already sufficient to protect against human drug smugglers. Crisis is something big, major, but i dont see that here. Reporter she agrees the partial shutdown has gone on long enough for employees and people across the country. I wish i could tell people it would be solved tomorrow. Reporter he says he will reshape and reorganize personnel until the impasse comes to an end. Funding stopped, but flow of drugs and people remains constant. Back out live to the u. S. , mexico border. We should mention we met santana in mission, texas, what is considered a relatively safe place. Just today, people enjoying recreation, theres heavy Border Patrol presence, but we have gone west where the chief believes theres gaps. Spoke to a rancher, a trump supporter, that wants to see the wall built. Says the situation on the ground that he lives every day does go to the level of meriting a possible National Emergency, fred. So what exactly is happening on the border, does it constitute that emergency or socalled crisis, depends on who they are and where theyre standing, where they live sf. All right, Polo Sandoval in mission, texas. Just ahead, announcement from former hud secretary julian castro. The democrat is expected to reveal intentions for the 2020 race in a few moments. Taking a look at the crowd there, the stage set. What do you think the announcement will be . Well take you there live. Overwhelming air fresheners can send you running. So try febreze one. With no aerosols and no heavy perfumes. So you can spray and stay. Febreze one. And my brother ray and i started searching for answers. vo when its time to navigate inhome care, follow that bright star. 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At any moment, julian castro, former secretary of housing and urban development under president obama is scheduled to announce his bid in san antonio where he once served as that citys mayor. Castro will join what is expected to be a rather crowded field of democrats, and the election is not for another 661 days. Dan america is at the event in san antonio for us. A sizable crowd there. Reporter it is a good crowd, crowd started to stream in a few minutes ago. Julian castro is expected to announce his president ial bid on the west side of san antonio where he was not only raised but in the church he was baptized in. It is centered on his roots and mexican heritage. His announcement makes him the first latino in the race. He is going to try to leverage his story into an attack on trump and the wall he hopes to build 200 miles from here on the u. S. Mexico border. Castro has risen to fame because of that story, and that Mexican American heritage you can see throughout the event on the plaza on the west side. Mariachi bands welcome people in, taco trucks selling tacos, and people with shirts that say julian 2020. He is clearly going to run for president. He is also being introduced by family members. His family is a big part of his story. His grandmother came to the United States in 1922 via eagle pass and started her family here. His mother is going to be the person to introduce him today. It is no secret that he enters the race as a long shot. He admitted that a couple days ago and said frankly, i have been a long shot my whole life, coming up, being raised on the west side of san antonio, i was considered a long shot for whatever i got into and this doesnt scare me, fred. Wow. So people that are there, mostly san antonio residents, people who are following his family, his story, they embrace him clearly but is there anything else particularly unusual about the audience or is it really home grown . Reporter very home grown. Julian castro is somebody that was raised on this side of the city, overachieved so much he ended up at stanford undergrad harvard law school, came home, ran for city council and mayor, became president obamas hud selk secretary. They have seen him as mayor and were raised with him. Knew him as the kid riding his bike around the streets, maybe going to church with him at the church nearby. Youll see that with Julian Castros entire campaign. I think his advisers are people that knew him a long time, including his identical twin brother who is a member of congress from texas as well. I was about to mention that. His brother, highly accomplished as well, twin brother, identical twin brother, joaquin. Thank you so much. Dan merica, well check back. He is not the only one considering a president ial bid. Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren set up an exploratory committee. Lets go to mj lee where senator warren is scheduled to hold an organizing event. Mj, warren was in iowa last weekend, today is in new hampshire. What might we expect from there today . Reporter fred, this is warrens first visit back to new hampshire. This is a neighboring state, she represents massachusetts in the senate. For political reason since the fall of 2016, she spent a lot of time in 2016 campaigning for Hillary Clinton and campaigning for now senator maggie hasan. We are told she hasnt been back for political reasons since then. I should also note, this is a state she spent part of election day. She went to Different Campaign events here, throughout the state, and returned to boston for election night. I should note an aide tells me she will be joined by her husband bruce and their dog bailey. There are no plans for bruce to speak on stage, but well get that visual of warren with her husband. Obviously all of this coming as plenty of other democrats around senator warren are trying to make their own decisions on what theyre going to do for 2020, and we expect to hear a lot of things we heard last weekend in iowa echoed here in new hampshire. All right. Mj lee, thanks so much. Well keep checking in with you. At least three people are dead, Dozens Injured in a massive explosion in the heart of paris. Well take you there live on what investigators are saying is to blame. Sometimes, bipolar i disorder can make you feel like you have no limits. But mania, such as unusual changes in your mood, activity or energy levels, can leave you on. Shaky ground. Help take control by asking your Healthcare Provider about vraylar. Vraylar treats acute mania of bipolar i disorder. 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In paris tonight, the yellow vest protests continue. Of course that was the context in which saturday morning we heard about this loud explosion that had taken place in the center of paris. It turned out that there had been a gas leak or once firefighters got there that was when the explosion took place. It was such fifficiently explos. The cars were overturned. People were thrown. All the windows around this bakery in which this explosion had taken place were shattered. What weve now learned is that three people died. Two of the firefighters of course who were on the scene to check out the cause of this gas leak. And the third person, a spaniard, also lost his life. All right. Melissa bell, thank you so much. That, in the midst of protests that have been ongoing for weeks there in paris. All right. Theres so much more straight ahead. After this. One hour pickup order . Got it. Ran out of ink and i have a big meeting today and 2 boxes of twizzlers. Yeah, uh. For the team. The team . 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