It doesnt exactly make a whole lot of sense. Reporter no, boris, it doesnt. Mixed messages seems to be one of the themes, one of the themes to describe the way this white house operates. The Washington Post reported on wednesday that special counsel, Robert Mueller, is investigating the president for possible obstruction of justice. On thursday the president took to twitter to blast this idea that he is under investigation. He called the new focus on obstruction of justice foe phon which is the same word hes used to describe the russia investigation for months now. Then a day later on friday, friday morning, the president took to twitter to tell husband millions of followers that he is under investigation. Now sources close to the president told cnn he wasnt saying that he had been personally informed officially that hes under investigation. He was talking about media reports. Take a listen to what one of his lawyers, how he explained all this on state of the union this morning. The president is not a subject or target of an investigation. That tweet was in response to a Washington Post story that ran with five unnamed sources, without identifying the agencies they represented, saying that the special counsel had broadened out his investigation to include the president. Weve had no indication of that. The president was responding to that particular statement from the Washington Post with, again, five anonymous sources, without identifying the agency. No, the president is not under investigation. Has not been. So the president said, i am under investigation, even though he isnt under investigation . That response on social media was in response to the washington piece. Its that simple. The president is not under investigation. Of course, boris, it is not that simple. These are the mixed messages were talking about. For one thing, for months, white house officials have been saying that we need to take the president s tweets at face value, calling them president ial statements, we should take them seriously. Now his lawyer is arguing the opposite. The president s legal team and other supporters of the president for instance, at the Republican National committee, have repeatedly pointed to these statements from the fbi director, the former fbi director, james comey, who did tell the president on three separate occasions that he was not under investigation. The problem here boris is that this is potentially outdated information. Comey has not been in charge of the fbi since the beginning of may, so it is not entirely clear whether those statements still hold true. I should mention though that cnn has not confirmed the Washington Posts reporting that the president is under investigation for obstruction of justice. But, Law Enforcement officials have told cnn that mueller is gathering evidence to determine whether to open a full obstruction of justice investigation. The president and his team are sending mixed messages here, but the bottom line is it is hard to imagine that the president s millions of twitter followers are stay something up to speed on his lawyers attempt now to walk back what he said. Boris . Thats right, athena jones reporting from the white house. Thank you, athena. Lets talk about the rgs rgs investigation and much more with our panel. Ellis henican, brian morganstern, and steve more. Steve, start with you. Weve been asking the president and his press corps for several days about whether or not hes under investigation. We got no answer until we saw that tweet. Now we hear this seeming reversal. Is there a grey area here though where it is possible that the president s tweet and what his lawyer is saying could both be true . Anything anything could be true, lately. Let me tell you how this works. What you have here is an investigation that we all know is under way about russian involvement in the u. S. Elections. So if you have an allegation during that investigation of obstruction of that investigation, that is initially handled under the primary investigation. So you can say, well, im not under investigation for that. Yes, but that doesnt mean it is not going to be looked at. And if they find theres a thing in the fbi called a preliminary inquiry. And its about a 30day period where, if you have an allegation or you see smoke on the horizon for a certain crime, you have 30 days to determine whether you want to open it as a separate criminal investigation. So i would say that theres 30 days of investigation here under a preliminary inquiry, or pi, before the fbi decides whether it wants to split it off as a separate investigation. Ellis, to you. If the president s attorney is right, and hes not under investigation, shouldnt there be someone taking the phone away from the president , or at least telling him, like why are you saying this. Good luck, boris yes. The answer is yes. The second answer is, it aint gonna happen for two years now people have been trying to yank the phone out of Donald Trumps fingers, and nobody has succeeded at that. I have no faith that anyone on this legal team whatever their talents might be, would be able to achieve that. Brian, who has to step up and say maybe you shouldnt you keep shooting yourself in the foot, maybe you shouldnt do that. Plenty of people have done that, and maybe of the president s supporters have said that. Its hard to argue with the results though. Hes got tens of millions of followers. His tweets are part of what carried him to the presidency of the United States. So it is hard to argue that it backfires that were. I think this is just a case of two things are true. One, he read this very frustrating article about five people anonymously leaking information which we know has been a thorn in the side of the administration. He was frustrated, he reacted with a tweet. The other thing thats true, we havent seen any evidence of any collusion with the russians or any obstruction. So to answer your original question to steve, seems like those two things can be true. Steve, back to you. I want to play some sound for you from senator marco rubio on state of the union this morning talking to jake tapper rea react being to the president s accusations that this is a witch hunt. It is not a witch hunt, you believe in the integrity of the investigation. I do. Because i believe bob muellers record of serving our country. If there was ever any evidence to the contrary, then obviously that may change. But i dont anticipate that being the case. Steve, from your perspective, what do you make of so many people now changing their opinion of Robert Mueller . Some folks are saying that hes the tip of the deep state spear thats trying to unseat is the president. Is that the case in your estimation . Well, i think no, i dont think thats the case. Robert mueller was the director while i was an agent. While he may not be everybodys Favorite Party guest, he is absolutely full of integrity. He is completely almost ruthless in the way he does investigations. I think hes incorruptible. So the problem here is that some people if he hires people who they dont really appreciate, they all of a sudden start to fear him. I think thats i think thats going down the wrong road here because, frankly youve got to realize that if you put a trump guy in there to do this investigation, nobodys going to have confidence in the results if trump is cleared. Trumps best if he is truly innocent of anything, of all things in this case, and he believes that, he should applaud Robert Muellers choice or decisions because he will clear him and both sides will believe it. Steve, that tweet that the president sent out about im being investigated for firing the fbi director by the man who told me to fire the fbi director was seen as critical of Deputy Attorney general rod rosenstein. Should he recuse himself from this investigation, in part because he wrote that letter to the president saying that he should fire james comey . I think the problem for rosenstein right now is that he didnt write that letter jufst unprovoked. Donald trump is not going to fire the fbi director just because a Deputy Attorney general writes him a memo. Trump told him to write that memo, in my best professional opinion, and it was given back to donald trump as a justification for firing. So in that situation i think that rosenstein i think he has a problem. Yeah, i think he should recuse himself, not because i necessarily think hes corrupt and wont take this to the logical end. But because it becomes a distraction and i think mueller should be untouched. Frankly, if the president does in ig to remove mueller, its everythings coming off the tracks. Brian ellis, we are switching gears here. We are low on time but i have to ask you about this. The vacancies in this administration. At this point president obama had about 150 top appointments in his presidency. George w. Bush, without a majority in the senate had 130. Right now President Trump has 43 appointments so far. Is the swamp just so drained that theres not enough people to hire . Are they having problems with candidates or well, the alligators are nipping at the heels of those who are there. So, yes its gotten a whole lot larder to find good people. There are still good people who want to serve but it is getting a whole lot harder to make sure what they can do with them and make sure they get the approvals in the senate that they need. It is just going really slowly and it hurts us. The democrats say it is being obstructionist. Do you agree . Well, the climate in washington is just lash hash r people digging in their heels at every turn. It was such a Contentious Campaign and such a deep field of primary candidates, the administration sort of vetting people and making sure people are willing to go along with the administrations agenda and be loyal to the president and everything is something thats more necessary perhaps in this administration than in past ones because of just the contentious election process that they went through. Important to point out, the administration does say theyre vetting about 200 people right now for those positions. Hopefully they do get filled soon. Ellis, brian and steve, thank you so much for the time. Business in the senate could come to a screeching halt this week. Democrats are considering a dramatic shutdown to pressure republicans to open up the process surrounding the Health Care Bill. They are upset that the gop is working behind closed doors to craft this thing shrouded in secrecy. Senator Chuck Schumer sent a letter to Majority Leader Mitch Mcconnell calling for an all senators meeting this week. Democrats and independents in the senate are threatening to do whatever it takes to make these health care talks open. We have an insane process. Insane here you have legislation which deals with onesixth of the american economy, thats the health care situation, and there are republicans who havent even seen this legislation and certainly no member in the Democratic Caucus has. What kind of process is it that when you deal with the issue that impacts tens of millions of people in this country, republicans dont even have the guts to allow it to go to a committee where we can have an open hearing, where questions could be asked. Cnns ryan nobles joins us now from washington. Ryan, lou muhow much of this isy symbolic and how much of this could actually prevent the republicans from keeping this thing behind closed doors . Boris, to your point, this would be a pretty dramatic move but it is one that democrats feel may be their only hope if they want to have any say in the crafting of this new Health Care Bill. Essentially they want to make it hard for republicans to schedule votes on even bills that are considered noncontroversial and keep nominees from the Trump Administration from getting confirmed. Now among the techniques they may employ, preventing committees from conducting routine business, even stopping committees from extending hearings when the senate is in session. The goal here would be to force republicans to open the debate on the Health Care Bill which at this point has really been done behind closed doors. All the democrats, and even most republicans, have yet to see what is in this new bill despite the fact that Republican Leadership has promised a vote before the july 4th holiday. Now this plan is by no means a done deal. Democrats would actually prefer not to go down this road, especially in the wake of the unity displayed at the congressional baseball game after the shooting last week. But make no mistake, republicans have enough votes. If they do, this is really just a symbolic manufacture by democrats. They dont need democratic for pass the bill. But to your point, boris, there is a Public Relations game being played here. A number of republicans have already been squeamish about the current state of this bill. Even the president himself in a closed door meeting with senators at the white house said described the house passed bill as being mean. This was a bill, of course, that he heralded at one time. So this whole thing could be designed to get some of them to pull back their support. Republicans also getting pressure from republican governors in some states who have joined up with democratic governors calling for a bipartisan solution to the Health Care Bill. Boris, this debate has large by been behind the scenes, everything taking a back seat to russia and of course the shooting. Republicans are now going to have to be accountable starting on monday and democrats are attempting to put some pressure on them in a big way. Ryan, one of many major stories that are going under the radar because of this whole russia probe. Ryan nobles reporting from washington, thank you. Thank you, boris. Besides health care, congress has a lot on its plate that it needs to come together on. But can lawmakers wade through the rhetoric to find Common Ground . Plus, accusations that the br president obstructed justice. But without a smoking gun, is that creating a bigger divide . Wyoming congressman says President Trump should still be impeached. I do not do this for political purposes, mr. Speaker. I do this because i believe in the great ideals that this country stands for. Liberty and justice for all. Thats good chicken. Chi hm . Here come the accents. 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Congressman, you echoed those sentiments earlier this week when you said that an attack on one of us is an attack on us all. From your perspective, how do you mend the partisan divide in this country when even this shooting has been politicized . If i may, let me send my prayers and my best wishes to the majority leader and his family and also to those who are fathers and in distant places in the military. We appreciate them very much and want the very best for them. Yes, i did indicate that the tone and tenor of the debates can be improved upon. But i dont want that to be confused with passion for principle. I think that we are still going to have our principles, our differences, and we are going to take these to the floor of the congress. But my hope is that people who are paying attention wont take this out of context and conclude that dastardly deeds should be done because we have passion for causes. Causes deserve a certain amount of passion. Now, sir, you grabbed headlines recently when you called for the president to be impeached. We have some of that sound. Lets listen to it. I rise today, mr. Speaker, to call for the impeachment of the president of the United States of america for obstruction of justice. I do not do this for political purposes, mr. Speaker. I do this because i believe in the great ideals that this country stands for liberty and justice for all. The notion that we should have government of the people, by the people, for the people. I do it because, mr. Speaker, there is a belief in this country that no one is above the law, and that includes the president of the United States of america. Congressman, when you call for the president to be impeached for obstruction of justice before the special counsels investigation is complete, is that only fueling the division that youre seeking to mend . Absolutely not. The constitution is the place where we can find the call for impeachment. The constitution under article 2 section 4 deals with impeachment. And it doesnt make an exception for difficult times. It doesnt make an exception for times when persons are having to deal with other issues that are of great importance. I called for impeachment because of indisputable facts. It is indisputable that the president said that he fired the fbi director who was investigating his campaign as it relates to the russian intrusion into our election, into our democratic process. And it is indisputable that he fired the fbi director who was investigating these actions. These indisputable facts, coupled with the threat that was made, or at least the strong admonition by way of a tweet, are evidence of the president s impeachment. The president should be impeached. I still stand on it. And i assure you of this, my dear friends. At some point the president will have his calls brought before the bar of justice. The bar of justice for the president is the house of representatives. The president will not be indicted and taken into a court of law. The president is not going before a grand jury. The president will have to come before the house of representatives. There will be constitutional scholars on both sides of this tissue. There were constitutional scholars on both sides of dread scott. There were constitutional scholars on both sides of brown versus board of education. The question is are you going to be on the right side of politics or are you going to be on the right side of history . Are you going to take up a righteous cause and take it to a righteous place . The president has committed an impeachable act. Facts are indisputable. There may be some other evidence to corroborate, but the president confessed on National Television at prime time. For those who would make excuses for the president , i would say this the president was smart enough to become president and he has to be smart enough to be president. We cant mack excuses for the most powerful man in the world, the president of the United States of america. And he is not above the law. Now, sir, you received Death Threats after you called for trumps impeachment. When you saw the news about representative scalise this week, how did you feel . It had to hit pretty close to home to you. Well, it did. And im very, very, very much concerned about him. And im also concerned about those other members of congress who are on that list that was found. I want them to get the best protection that we have. I want to make sure that their families are protected, their staffs have to be protected, and i think were going to have to expand security to include our district offices. Weve got to do more to make sure our staffs are protected, because they are static. Persons are aware of where theyre located, and they can be easily found. And people come in to our offices more often than you might think and say very ugly things, and some of them will make threats. So weve got to protect our staffs. But we also have to protect the people who are at events where Congress Persons are in attendance. Unfortunately, weve seen what can happen when a Congress Person was harmed earlier and other persons died. So we must protect the people around congress people. I regret that weve arrived at this point in our history but the reality is we cannot allow ourselves to be intimidated, and we have a duty to protect those who are standing with and around Congress Persons. Now, sir, i do want to get your reaction to this. There was a noose that was found outside the National Gallery of the arts in washington, d. C. Just this weekend. It is the third time the same symbol of racial violence has turned up in that area in three weeks. Whats your reaction to seeing that kind of thing . I passed a resolution in congress expressing my and the sense of congress that we abhor nooses. We deplore nooses. They are terrible things to display, especially as this is being done. I think that we have to take seriously theet indicatiose i u cases of hate, and i think they should be properly investigated. I think we need to stand up to hate. I dont think we can hide it. I think we have to say it. Because there are many people who dont believe and dont understand the extent to which this hate has permeated our society. We must not allow it to continue. We have to stand firm and we have to stand together. And again, when you attack one of us, you attack all of us. Thats not just members of congress, by the way. Thats every american. When one american is assault by a dastardly deed or by some person that may be deranged and may have done it with design, every american is diminished to some extent. We have to stand together against hate. Hate has no place in a democracy such as ours. Our country is big enough to embrace all, and big enough to allow all to be heard, and allow all to be heard without fear of being in some way harmed. A message of unity that we certainly hope continues through political process as it moves forward as well. Congressman al green, thank you so much for the time, sir. Thank you, mr. Sanchez. Some tragic news this weekend. Seven sailors killed. Now questions are swirling around what happened moments before a Navy Destroyer collided with a japanese merchant ship. D in the usual way but there were planes to catch and bills to pay so i moved my meeting saw him walk that day he was talking fore i knew it, and as he grew hed say im gonna be like you, dad you know im gonna be like you and the cats in the cradle and the silver spoon Little Boy Blue and the man in the moon. He every tv doctor knows scrubbing is serious business. They also know you need to get your annual checkup. 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Navy says its recovered the bodies of be seven sailors missing since an american destroy merchant ship collided off the coast of japan. Their bodies were discovered in flooded sleeping compartments inside the uss fitzgerald. The captain of the ship says it was flooded. Lets talk about it with retired rear admiral john kirby, a former spokesperson for the state department and the pentagon and also with us, cnn transportation analyst, mary schiavo, former Inspector General of the department of transportation. Mary, youve been looking at the courses that these two ships took. It is obviously too soon to come to any conclusion, but from what youve seen so far, what could have happened here . Well, it is difficult to tell about the fitzgerald because their course has not been released yet, their heading and their course of sail. But for the cargo ship, they did something very unusual, and something very dangerous to do in a shipping lane. They made a turn. They made a circle back or a uturn in common parparlance. Ordinarily you exit the shipping lane. If you are going to reenter, it is called the International Law for prevention of collisions at sea and that determines how you operate in a shipping lane. It appears it didnt follow those rules, but then we dont know. It also could have had a malfunction of its auto pilot. That could be possible as well. Admiral kirby, this kind of thing is extremely rare. What do you think is happening right now with the investigation and whether or not they would be looking at the ships commander ultimately as an accountable person for this crash . What we know has happened now is the 7th sple th fleet comman appointed an official fact finding investigation. He has assigned that, or will assign that very soon to another flag officer, another admiral to run, somebody junior to him. That admiral will put together a team and start to work, if they havent already. They will look at everything, every bit of recorded data from the fitzgerald, theyll talk to ever possible relevant piece of evidence and equipment, the surface search radar system to make sure everything was operating properly. Theyll build a fraen sick analysis of this on a very specific timeline. Theyll go almost minute to minute to determine what the fitzgerald was doing and when. It will be very thorough and very definitive and will lay it out clearly at least from the Navy Perspective what they think happened here. We obviously want to be very sensitive to the families who lost loved ones. Obviously this is still very early on in the investigation, but this is a serious failure ultimately what cot consequences be for someone thats found accountable . Well, i think there will be legal consequences. Both on the international level, and in the u. S. , if there is any culpability from the persons on the u. S. Ship, there will be ramifications there. But there is an International Body of admiralty law. Japan has jurisdiction. The u. S. Has jurisdiction. Its right in the constitution. Its been such prom naninent lar so long. U. S. Federal courts would have primary jurisdiction. Japan recently passed some laws that would give them jurisdiction over any ship to returned from a collision at sea to its port. So there are civil ramifications for the losses, the damages, the injuries, and of course, the financial ramifications. There can also be consequences for any individual who was not at his or her watch, was not doing what they were supposed to do, et cetera. Admiral, same question about accountability to you. Yeah. I cant speak for the civil side. In the navy there is a strong culture and tradition of Holding Leaders Accountable and responsible for their actions at sea. Particularly it the commanding officer. Again we need to let the investigators do their job but it is not outside the realm of possibility there will be specific individuals found to have been wanton in their performance. There is a strong, strict case the military will use to hold them accountable appropriately. Thank you both for your perspective. Stay with us in the cnn newsroom. Well be right back. Do it for. Love, grandpa. Let us be lovers, well marry our fortunes together older grandaughter itll be alright. I know. Grandson how did you meet grandpa . Grandmother actually on a blind date. [ laughter ] i wish he was on the trip with us. Hes sitting right between the boys in the back of the car. [ laughter ] america all come to look for america all come to look for america lifes as big as you make it. The allnew 7seater volkswagen atlas with americas best bumpertobumper limited warranty. Can we at least analyze customer can we push the offer online . Legacy technology can handcuff any company. But yes is here. 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He called the trial unfair because the accusations were years old and he says his client, once known as americas dad, still swears that he is totally innocent. Cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney page pate joins us now. D. A. Says that they want to retry cosby. How long could that take . How soon could we see some movement on this . I think the judge has already announced he would like to see any retrial within 120 days. Thats not uncommon. Normally before you set up for a retrial you want to check with both sides, you want to make sure the witnesses are going to be available. Case like this took about a week to try. There were a number of witnesses. Primarily of course for the state, but there were also a witness or two for mr. Cosby. You want to make sure those witnesses have the ability to come back to court. What i think is most important, and why i was surprised that the prosecutor made such a snap decision to retry the case is you usually want to take some time to review how the case went in to the jury, try to talk to some of the jurors, if possible, find out, was it an even split . 6 for acquittal, six for guilty, or were there one or two holdouts . That can make a difference. You really dont want to retry a case if there were 11 for not guilty and only 1 for guilty. On the other hand, if it was 11 for guilty and only one holdout, you may want to retry the case. Miss constand already went through many months of preparing for trial, going through the agony of testifying. I would think the prosecutor would want to have a long discussion with her to make sure she wants to go through it again. Thats absolutely true, page. Correct me if im wrong, but in this case we only heard from two of his accusers. We heard a piece of a deposition that he gave that was sealed several years ago that was open specifically for this case. Is there a chance that moving forward in the retrial we might hear from more of his accusers on the stand . Is. You know, thats a great question, boris. Judge could revisit that ruling that kept out all of the other individuals who make accusations against mr. Cosby. I think that would be unusual here because there really hasnt been any change in the facts. The judge looked at that issue before trial and said, im going to allow one other person to testify because what happened to her is allegedly very similar to what miss constand is saying happened to her. But to bring in all of these other folks, the many dozen or so other folks who have made somewhat similar claims would just be too prejudicial. While the judge has the authority to change his mind based on what he heard at trial, i dont think hell do that. Important to point out this is a criminal case. 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But a short time later, a syrian su22, a fighter, came back in and dropped bombs near the u. S. Backed fighters and a u. S. F18 came in and shot down that syrian jet as part of a Defense Mission to protect the u. S. Fighters, the u. S. Backed fighters on the ground. All of this in a critical location as the advance is beginning on raqqa. This is that area that is essentially isis last stronghoed. The Syrian Regime came out with a very strong statement against the u. S. It said it was fighting you know, if it continues to claim its fighting against isis, but it was in fact fighting against u. S. Backed forces. An official u. S. Coalition official is telling me this is the first time the u. S. Has shot down the Syrian Regime aircraft. And while there was no direct threat to any u. S. Military in the area at the time, it escapes no ones attention that u. S. Special forces are in that area acting as advisors to the very forces the u. S. Tried to defend today by shooting down that syrian aircraft. Boris . Barbara, when it comes to rules of engagement, what do we know about whether or not this played within the rules of engagement in that area . Well, from the u. S. Standard in fact, it is, because the u. S. Is sworn, essentially, as part of its mission to defend the fighters it backs on the ground. Otherwise, these fighters are not going to try not going to fight against isis, push them out of raqqa, push them out of the areas that they hold. So this is really quite essential to keeping the loyalty and the fighting going against isis to defend these people on the ground who are doing the fighting when they are threatened and whoever theyre threatened by. I think the curious question that we dont have an answer to is why would the syrians who have really not very many aircraft left in their air force at this point, why would they risk one of their own fighter jets to move in to this area knowing full well that the u. S. Would spot them and would likely shoot them down. Why did the syrians decide to take this risk. And there was conversation between the u. S. And the russians during the day to try and get the syrians to back off. Why did they not is wilisten to russians. I want to bring in rear admiral john kirby now. Thank you for sticking with us throughout the day. Weve seen similar incidents like this before, but this is one of the first of its kind, right . Yeah, it is. It is the first time weve shot down a Syrian Regime aircraft. So this is new. Id be careful right now to talk about how significant an escalation it is. Clearly it is a very kinetic, very active act here by the coalition, but it was, as barbara reported, done in selfdefense. And i think it is important to remind everybody that the coalition and the United States in particular has long said that once we started supporting syria and Democratic Forces on the ground in syria, that we had an obligation that we would honor, to protect them, particularly in the air if they came under attack. Weve been pretty trant abospar about this. I suspect the other goal is to also maybe act as a deterrent effect for the regime Going Forward so that they dont try this again. This is a very serious signal here that we just sent to them. I also think a very interesting thing to look for here in the next hour or so is the reaction from the russians and how this he will respond to this. I mean rhetorically. I dont particularly think there will be any response from them in a military way but certainly rhetorically be interested to see what they have to say about it. Barbara starr and admiral john kirby, thank you both. Im Boris Sanchez in for fredricka whitfield. 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Took an active role in the syrian conflict. Plane was shot down, it was a Syrian Regime bomber, we are learning, that is said to have attacked coalition supported fighters on the ground. This is where it happened, near the city of raqqa, the isis stronghold in northern syria. A statement from the coalition, which is led by the United States, that its forces were responding to the syrian bombing which did cause casualties on the ground, and that the syrian jet was shot down in selfdefense. Again, the u. S. Military for the first time has shot down a Syrian Air Force warplane. We are closely following these developments. Stay with becnn for more detail as we get them. Now