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Stop moving now. Show me your hands. Get your hands out of your pocket. Shoot, dont shoot . What would you do . Lets talk. Live in the cnn newsroom. We are following breaking news out of chicago. Where Officials Say an arrest has finally been made in the murder of a nineyearold point. Tieshen lee was gunned down earlier this month. Reporter good morning, carol, i just got off the phone with the Chicago Police department. And they confirmed that a man named cory the blood, you could e still see a very gory scene. And people there had been talking about the possibility that a gang member has lured this child into an alley and then killed him. And then of course we heard from police that that was their theory. They believed that a gang member has actually lured this child into an alley when the child was simply wanting to play basketball and then shot and killed this child. Again, from police here in chicago telling cnn that a man named corey morgan has been arrested on firstdegree murder charges involving the killing of tyshawn lee. It was clilike an executiona style killing. Why did the suspect shoot this little boy . Have the police determined that . Their theory has been from the get go that this individual had lured this child into an alley had some sort of altercation, some sort of problem whereith this childs father. So that is what they had been exploring. That is what they confirmed later. That indeed this was a gangrelated killing. But instead of the killing of a gang member, it was the child of a gang member. That is whats so disturbing to the people of this community and they were asking neighbors to come forward. I was there. There are homes all over and around this alley. And so they were calling for people to come forward and say what they saw. People there in that Community Carol told us. You know, someone saw something. They must come forward. But as you might imagine when it is a gangrelated activity people there were a little scared about coming forward and telling police what they knew. Rosa flores live from chicago this morning. In the fight against Isis Vladimir Putin has pledged his support to fight alongside the west against common enemy. The west may not be ready to fight alongside russia. In the meantime turkey trying to mend its relationship with russia after shoots down its war plane. The turkish president has a facetoface meeting with putin while both are in paris on monday. The proposed meeting sure to be intense as putin slams the shoot down as the active betrayal amongst allies and says russia is ready to defend itself. It did not even come into our minds that we could have been struck by a party we consider our ally. We consider i turkey to be a friendly country. We did not expect such an action. And that is why that strike was unexpected. And now we realize it is possible, because a soldier has died, that we need to have a security for our air force. Following the story from everything angle. Starting in russia, where putin is raising questions about how turkey knew where the russian jet would be when its pilot shot it down. Matthew what are you learning this morning . Reporter Vladimir Putin is essentially leveling allegations at the unite where our planes are operating. Where our pilots are working. We expect them to pass that information on to their allies. And in that is the case and they did pass it onto the turks and the United States knew that that was the russian plane that the turks had targeted and intercepted and took down. So a bit of criticism there. Quite a lot from the kremlin towards the United States. But the majority of the fury that is being felt by Many Russians but particularly Vladimir Putin is being directed at turkey. The Russian Foreign minister lavrov has said the travel regime between turkey and russia will now be canceled. So this is quite a big announcement that from now on turkish citizens will need a visa to travel to russia. Previously they didnt. If that is reciprocated it could have a big impact on turkish tourism because there were 3. 2 million russian tourists going on holiday there last year. If they knees vineed visas from is going to make an impact. Also that meeting you mentioned between erdogan in turkey and putin in paris at the summit next week, the kremlin now saying it is not planning to have that meeting despite a direct request made by the president to the kremlin shortly after the plane was shot down. It gives you indication how much distance, how much animosity there is right now between the turks and the russians. Matthew chance live from moscow for us. In syria officials are praising devastating air strikes like these that russia says it carried out against isis targets across syria. Syrians foreign minister is calling them quote hundreds of times more effective than those made by the american led coalition. Barbara star is following that part of the story. I think you will find that pentagon officials continue to say that the russian air strikes are very different than u. S. Air strikes. The pentagon making the case continuously that u. S. Air strikes are more precise weapons are precisionguided. The russians they say are dropping unguided undirected bombs so their strikes are not very precise, in the u. S. View now. This is really the least of it because the u. S. Contends the russians are not really striking isis to any large extent as the u. S. Is. But are striking rebels opposed to bashar al assad. So two very Different Things in play here. The u. S. Also watching very closely the russians moving in those s400 antiair missiles. Then the russians will control a good deal of turkish and syrian air space and there may have to be changes to how the u. S. War planes operate. Remember when the russian war jet was shot down and it was a rescue mission under way to rescue the surviving pilot or pilots. Supposedly iran had a role in that. Can you explain that for us . Well iranian and russian state media are reporting indeed that one of the chief commanders of Iranian Revolutionary guard core a guy named Major General sewell mani. A very strong and powerful figure in the irgc inside iran. He regularly in recent months has moved in and out of syria. A a u. S. Official telling me they have no reason to doubt he may have been one of the organizing figures behind that rescue of the russian bielt. Barbara star live from the pentagon. In africa, special forces have arrested two men they believe carried out last weeks deadly hotel attack. A cell phone found at the radisson blu connects both suspects to the scene. The men are believed to be around 30 years old. The army would not give any more details. And isis says it is behind the shooting at a shiite mosque in bangladesh. According to a u. S. Based monitoring group. One person died in the attacks. Three others injured when gunmen opened fire on warshipers during early evening. Bangladesh still to come, black friday a day of shopping. But in chicago, a day of marching. Protesters getting ready to take to the streets again over the shooting death of a black tanler. Teenager. Plaque psoriasis. Isnt it time to let the. Real you shine. Through . Introducing otezla, apremilast. Otezla is not an injection, or a cream. Its a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. Some people who took otezla saw 75 clearer skin after 4 months. And otezlas prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. Dont take otezla if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. Otezla may increase. The risk of depression. 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A lot of questions about a lot of people focused on this for black friday. They come here to shop from around the world. Weve seen tourists out already. It is a rainy day. So we cant see whether or not the fear has really impacted people. But the idea is religious leaders plan to march down this roadway. A lot of protests have been focused on the southside far. Today that is all going to change. And in fact a lot of people are making impassioned pleas. I would like to see Michigan Avenue stores, take a big hurt tomorrow, businesswise. And how can you say that, it effects the whole city . So does murder. You cant keep asking people trust the system, trust the system. The system is not working. Carol, you can hear the anger in some peoples voices. I can hovrnsly tell you. They want to are have an effect down here. People talk about two sides of chicago. One side where there is a lot of violence and a gang war going on and then another more profitable side of the chicago. And that is represented right behind me with this magnificent mile, where a lot of people travel to spend their money. And now today that may change. Ryan young reporting live from chicago this morning. Even as protesters look to disrupt black friday shopping. Millions are still poised to hit the stores on one of the busiest days of the year. Many are already getting a head start on stores that are actually hope on the day of after thanksgiving. Live in Herald Square, good morning. Reporter the frenzy has started. Weve seen crowds all morning filing into the macys Herald Square. One of the biggest most iconic retailers in the country. I just spoke to the ceo. He said they opened at 6 00 p. M. Last night. They havent shut them. And from 3 00 last night to 11 00 today is going their biggest day of the year, period. Full stop. This is how important black friday is to retailers across the country who have not seen the American Consumer really come back in the way that they would like to see the American Consumer spend. So clearly it is very important day for retailers. And things even though there are a lot of crowds here in Herald Square things are fairly orderly overnight an all out battle at Stores Across the nation. Hours into the brutal chase for bargains. In case somebody tries to steal something from me. Black friday madness in louisville, kentucky. Two men punching and tearing at each others tee shirt inside a major city mall. Tempers flared at this walmart in el paso. Holiday shoppers appear to flight over flat screen tvs, even taking on store security. The yearly stampede filling into the front doors, a welcome sight for retailers. Hoping to cash in on the holiday frenzy. Sales expected to reach 80 billion in the u. S. The average american spending close to 400 dollars throughout the holiday weekend. With some brick and Mortar Stores now handing out a select number of tickets. Were able to ticket one through whatever number we have. Shoppers sometimes camping out for days. Weve been here since tuesday night at a 9 30. All in effort to nab the best deals like this 50 inch flat screen tv at best buy nearly 75 off. It if its something you want and worth it why not go and get it. So clearly carol, electronics are big on black friday with heavy discounts on tvs and phones. But people here are going to be filing into the macys mainly for clothes and handbags and fragrances. Americans are expected to spend 3 billion today alone. And as far as the violence in some Stores Across the country, we havent seen that yet. Mainly because a lot of the retailers here have their own security and keeping people orderly and having people file in one line and Opening Doors in orderly fashion and really streamlining the amount of people in the crowd that are here today, carol. That is a good thing. Christina live from new york city this morning. Still to come, as protesters gear up a deeper understanding of whats behind ab officers decision to use lethal force. So i took a Police Training course to find out. If this were a real emergency, id have died. I didnt want to shoot him. Even when he had the gun on the table are, i didnt believe he would shoot me. The most advanced iphone yet. Get the new iphone 6s at tmobile. The network thats doubled its lte coverage in the past year. Our new extended range lte signal now reaches twice as far as before. And is four times better in buildings. Get our lowest price on iphone 6s with tradein. Zero upfront and just 5 bucks a month with jump on demand. 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It was for the families of the 130 victims but as well the 350 who were injured were there as well. As well as their families. And a crosssection of the political life here in france. Virtually every political strife you could imagine was represented in the stands today. They all wanted to Show National unity and that is something president hollande spoke about in his speech. Translator i wanted to say these words, france will be alongside you. We will unite our forces to calm the pain. And after burying the dead we have to repair. To all of you, i promise you, solemnly. Destroy the army of the fanatics who carried out these crimes. Quite strong words there from the president. And showing a lot of resolve. I think that is what he wanted to show. But we heard these kind of things after terrorist attacks before. And i think people are waiting to see whether the president can actually carry this out. Jim bitterman live from paris thank you. And good morning. Im carol costello. Thank you so much for joining me. This just in to cnn. The kremlin is saying it has no plans for a facetoface meeting between the turkish president and Vladimir Putin, even shutting down suggestions that the pair could talk on the phone. As putin appears to shut the door on turkey he says hes willing to open it for france and the west coordinating attacks with groups within syria. Joined by cnn security analyst and former assistant secretary with the department of Homeland Security juliet k. Welcome. Good morning. Is russia really opening the door to this coordinated attack . Or is he just talking. He may just be talking but i view this as good news. The turkish russian has been going on for centuries. We have to view what happened with the downing of the jet as just a brief moment in time. Putin is known to want to show his might and strength by doing somewhat stupid things at various times like stop travel, stop trade. Let him do that is my theory. Let him blow off the steam and take the long view. Hell isolate turkey. Let him do that for a short while and then we move forward. Because we have to keep our eyes to be prize which is clearly syria. Is that all mr. Putin plans to do, do you think . Because the russian people are quite angry that that russian war plane was shot down by turkey. And that russians citizens were lost in this war on isis or assad or whoever putin is fighting within syria. You have to remember about putin, here is a man that after the United States passed legislation, targeting some of his nationals for human rights violations, he stopped the adoption to the United States of disabled children. This is his thought process. But then over time things ease. And i think that is exactly what we as the United States and as western the western Coalition Just has to let him blow off this steam. It is going to impact trade. It is going to impact tourism. But i think the longterm is, if we get too engaged with this fighting, or this moment in time of the downing of the jet, we will lose sight of the of assad and assad leaving syria whether voluntarily because the russians give him or out or because he cant survive what is going on will. Julia thanks for joining me this morning. Still to come, donald trump says he deserves an apology. Come on, why ya sleepin . Come on what time is it . Its go time. Come on. Lets go, lets go, lets go. Woooo hoooo yeah i feel like i went to bed an hour ago. Ill make the cocoa. Get a great offer on the car of your grownup dreams at the mercedesbenz winter event. Its the look on their faces that makes it all worthwhile. But, hurry, these offers end soon. Thank you santa ive got a nice long life ahead. Big plans. So when i found out medicare doesnt pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. Then i got a Medicare Supplement insurance plan. 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In fact the front runner says he didnt even know serge covelessy. You can see kovaleski has a chronic condition that limits his arm movements. Kovaleski. You can see kovaleski has a chronic condition that limits his arm movements. Here is trump on tuesday in south carolina. Right after a couple of good paragraphs. And it is talking about northern new jersey draws the probers eye. Written by a nice reporter. Now you got to see this guy. Oh i dont know what i said. I dont remember. Hes going i dont remember. Oh maybe that is what i said. 14 years ago. Still they didnt do a retraction. So after the New York Times demanded an apology, trump issued a statement mangling kovaleskis name. Quote i have no idea who this reporter serge koefslyky is. Athena jones had been covering the story for days. I should tell you that the Trump Campaign issued or reissued that statement correcting the spelling of kovaleskis name. Not long after. Late in the afternoon yesterday, that is when trump demanded that the New York Times apologize. And he also said a little bit more. I wanted to read for you what you said. Serge kovaleski must think a lot of himself if he thinks i remember him from decades ago, if i ever met him at all, which i doubt i did. He should stop using his disability to grand stand and get back to reporting for a paper that is rapidly going down the tubes. As you mentioned kovaleski said thats not true. Trump does know who he is. He tweeted this morning a link to an article in the New York Times. He sat down with his employer and spoke about this. Trump sorry, kovaleski covered trump for years extensively back in the 1980s, and kovaleski said in the story that hes interviewed trump in his office. Hes talked to him at press conferences. All in all i would say around a dozen times he interacted with him at a reporter while working for the daily news. Says he does know who i am. It is impossible to know whats in trumps head but i can tell you this. Trump has a lot of defenders and if fact that hes not stepping down, hes not giving any ground. He has this tough rhetoric. That is the kind of thing a lot of Trump Supporters like hearing from him. They are defending hip him on twitter. And a lot of Trump Supporters already dont like the New York Times. For trump to go after the New York Times and this reporter is playing to his base. Thanks so much. Still to come in the newsroom, Police Officers get the training but when they come face to face with a potentially life and death situation. At what point do they decide to use lethal force. I wanted to know. So i took a Police Training course. What i found out, next. We saw in chicago this week, unrest in minneapolis. Over the Police Shooting of the black teena black suspect. 19 of African Americans say they have been treated unfairly by police based on their race. Thats compared to 17 of hispanics and 3 of white people. In that same pole, 84 of African Americans say anger over Police Treatment is a major reason for protest in several u. S. Cities. It got me thinking, what goes through the mind of a Police Officer during those tense situations . What kind of training do they get . And what makes them decide to shoot or not shoot . So i went to training myself. The scenario im about to show you was designed by former navy seal, and cnn analyst jonathan gilliam. There is not always a right answer for when to shoot and when to hold your fire. You should eliminate all the variables that you can. It is a decision that Law Enforcement officers are asked to make every day on the job. Oh that is heavy. Wow. Im being outfitted for a tactical Training Course where it is up to me to decide whether to use deadly force. Im also wearing a monitor thats measuring my heart rate. There is a lot of weights people are caring. Physical weight and mental weight they are carrying. In order to go to the use of deadly force rules, you have to practice these type of things. And this is what Law Enforcement practice in the academy and when they are on the street. The first is suicide by cop. Kirby is a retired special agent for the fbi. Officer is responded to the call of an emotionally disturbed person at his residences and who threatened to kill himself at his resident. My hands are already sweating. This is the stress the cop is feeling daily. Im ready. Do you see anything in his hands. Can we come sno. Okay. We can go. Do not come in. Theres nothing you can do. Theres nothing you can do. Im done, im ready to do. I suggest you leave or were all going to die. Why do you think your world is over. Why do you think my world is over . You talked to my wife. Why do you think . Let us your hands. How about your put both your hands on the table for me. How about you leave. Im telling you now if you dont leave im going to kill everyone in this room including myself. Sir why dont you put your other hand on the table. No no. Put your other hand on the table. Im telling you it is time a gun. To leave. What would you do . Shoot or shot shoot . Sean is mentally ill, suicidal. His wife wants you to save him. No. Place your hands on top your e head. Listen to my partner. We only want to help you. There is no help. There is that help sean, i promise you. There is absolutely nothing you can do. But leave. Leave now. Why are you not responding to me . You want me to respond okay. Bam. Youre dead. If this were a real emergency, id have died. I didnt want to shoot him. Even when he had the gun on the table i didnt believe he would shoot me. But he did. Right. Im not used to dealing in those situations. First off he wasnt showing you his hands. Gave me a false sense of security. Because by then i had my own gun out. And i thought well, hes not going to shoot me. So as soon as he put the gun on the table i could have shot him. Sure. Because action beats reaction all the time. If he presents the threat to you u then you have the right to use deadly force not to protect your life but your partner or anybody else. Because if he shoots you both he can then go out and be a deadly imminent danger to the public. All right i want to wring in former navy seal and fbi special agent and my trainer jonathan gilliam. Thanks for taking me through that because i learned a lot frankly. I think you are a brave individual to go through that. The reality is we cover these daily and most people analyze it but they dont necessarily scott wanted me to send that to you as well. That he appreciate you going out of your way to do this. Hes awesome. Even in watching that my palms were sweating again. And it was a fake scenario. You could tell my by heart rate monitor that as the situation escalated my heart rate beat faster and faster and this wasnt even a real scenario. Because it becomes a situation where the whole situation is really dependent on the other person. Not you so much. The end outcome can depend on you once you see the threat. The reality is how it unfolds really is dependent on the behavior of the individual in which you are confronting. So lets talk about the behavior of sean. His behavior was not rational. But i kept trying to talk him into giving himself up. Because i wanted him i wanted i didnt want to shoot him. I just didnt. I knew he wass suicidal. I thought i could talk him out of it. Sometimes a Police Officer can do o that, right . However, the point where he pulls the weapon out, now what happens is he has presented an imminent threat of the weapon on that table in his reach. And hes telling you that somebody is going to die today. At that point the whole scenario changes. And your job as a Law Enforcement officer goes from saving his life potentially to saving your own and the other people around you. And is where these. It can become like a shootout at o. K. Corral situation. Exactly. And that is not your job. And your job is to eliminate an imminent threat of loss of life before it spreads to you, your f partner or the public around you. These are very hard decisions. And as you can see the two things you hit on here more than anything is that you didnt show up to kill sean. And at the end of it, because things are changing so rapidly and you have to go through the force continuum on the use of deadly force, you have to make those decisions quickly. And it appears a lot of the times that cops are making the wrong decision to the public but in reality they are facing that threat and they are making the decision that they are trained to make based on the reality of what is going on at that moment. And we should mention the reality is that most officers never that is not to say there arent bad cops and bad shootings. It is just we need to put everything in perspective. And if wed had have had another outcome for that we could have moved in and secured sean at that point. But when he presented the threat, our response to that threat had to change. And it had to go to use of deadly force. Which you see in this case what happens if you dont make that decision and you thank you so much. You got it. Well have another scenario in the next hour of newsroom. Checking other top stories for you this morning. The white house put on lockdown after this man and his American Flag cape jumped the fence and sprinted across the front lawn. All the while the first family was inside the white house celebrating thanksgiving. Secret Service Agents were drawing their gun. They were able to catch this man and take him into custody. While this is the third person to rush the lawn this year, hes the first to do so after seveninch steel spikes were added on top. Fence. Found all the way in the uk, more than 3,000 miles away. The debris was discovered as you saw, an American Flag is em blazeden on the side of it. A newborn baby found abandoned in a manger of a nativity scene may not have to wait long for a family. Police have located the polices mother. Shes protected by the citys safe haven law and will not face charges. Officers say she returned to the church the next morning to make sure the baby had been found. Still to come in the newsroom, you think of thanksgiving, you think of food, football, and boy, did some teams get served. Dimension the lions . Anyway, first, thing youre getting a good deal on black friday . I was cheering my lions. Yea. Well talk shopping and football next. Black friday is all about deals but not everything is on sale. Looking for a new treadmill to burn off your holiday excess . 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Luke heatley snatched two interceptions, took that one to the house. His teammate with a third interception, touchdown. So the defense scoring twice. Cam newton didnt have to do much. Bust out a couple of oldschool dance move and throws on newschool flare. Crushing the cowboys 3314. To add injury to insult, it looks like dallas lost quarterback tony romo, this time possibly for the rest of the season. His shoulder gets plant into the stuf turf on this sack by a similar injury earlier this season. Dallas now a woeful 38. Now, the packers and bears have the nfls oldest rivalry. Theyve had 192 meetings but never met on thanks giving day. On top of that, at halftime, the packers honored former quarterback and future hall of Famer Brett Favre by retiring his number 4 on the wall of lambeau field. Then it got better. Bart starr was in the house and he showed love to favre. Jay cutler and his boys became the bad news bear and put green bay into a state of disbelief. Cutler threw for 300 yards and the score. Chicago holds on for the 173 upset. Johnny manziel, he went from being the browns starting quarterback to the thirdstringer this week. That happened after video surfaced that seemed to show him partying like a rock star at a nightclub in austin texas during the browns bye week. Now browns benched him because manziel lied to them about when the video was actually shot and he asked those who knew about it to lie for him as well. Now, what in the world did you feed your lions and Matthew Stafford . Look at the carnage, carol. I have to know your thoughts on this game. Oh, my gosh. Actually, i was sitting there, and the lions were about to score 31 points and im thinking to myself, holy cow, whats happening . Its like a miracle on thanksgiving day Matthew Stafford looked like tom brady. He sure did. They didnt have turkey for thanksgiving. They ate eagles. Im telling you, theres a chance, they might, maybe make the playoffs, carol. We got a lousy division, they just could. The next hour of cnn newsroom starts now. Shapg now in the newsroom putin says hes ready to work with an American Coalition to fight isis. Dont call it a done feel yet. Also a 9yearold boy lured into the alley and murdered. Now an arrest for the killing of little tysean lee. Who killed him and why . Black friday protests in chicago and new york over black men killed by police. Do cops mauck the call . Are you Miguel Richardson . I wanted to find out. Get on the ground. Show me your hands. Get your hands out of your pocket. Shoot, dont shoot. What would you do . Lets talk live in the cnn newsroom. Good morning. Im carol costello. We start in moscow as the kremlin turns down a meeting with turkey. Early this morning turkeys president requested a sitdown, trying to mend fences after it shot down a russian warplane on tuesday, but putin says hes furious over his allys betrayal and should be must be ready to defend itself. Translator it did not even come into our minds that we could have been struck by a party we consider to be our ally. We considered turkey to be a friendly country. We did not expect such an action, and that is why that strike was unexpected. Now we realize it is possible because a soldier has died that we need to have security for our air force. Just this morning moscow has suspended visafree Jill Dougherty joins us live from russia with more. Good morning, jill. Reporter good morning, carol. You can see the fury. And theres no question that russia continues retaliatory measures against turkey. The visa being one. Of course, weve been talking since yesterday about all the economic steps theyre taking. I think one of the more interesting thing is this criticism of the coalition, the americanled coalition. At the same time, president putin is not saying that he would not cooperate. After all, he did sign an agreement with the United States as the head of that coalition to make sure there would be no accidents in the sky with the planes that are flying around both on the United States side and russian side. Lets listen to president putin as he talks about how the americans had the information about that russian plane and what happened. Translator previously we informed our American Partners where, when and where our pilots would be working. The american side which leads and then at that time received a strike, so it can be asked, why did the americans not give us that information . Are they in control of what their allies do or is the information just all over the place and they have to understand the consequences of this. Translator that phrase all over the place is significant because what hes saying is, you know, either the United States you could argue malevolently did something on purpose or simply incompetence or turkey is out of line and not cooperating with the United States. So, president putin is very critical of the Coalition Led by the United States, but, carol, at the same time hes saying, we will continue to cooperate. Jill dougherty reporting live from moscow this morning. The air strikes go on. Air strikes over United States and turkey and Syrian Forces and its just as confusing as ever. Lets go to the pentagon and check in with barbara starr. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. The russians releasing more video of what they say the russians more effective or the u. S. More effective . Its not about the number of air strikes, per se, at this point, but perhaps the debate is more about how effective they are. Now, the u. S. Position is its air strikes are more effective. They have more precision, the u. S. Point of view. The Russian Point of rue is their air strikes are more effective because theyre going after this wide range of targets. To go back to what jill was just saying a minute ago, u. S. Officials have told me for the last several days, they had no nong knowledge ahead of time where that russian airplane might be flying. This was not an area the u. S. Was particularly interested in. Its not where theyd been flying in recent days they were aware the russians had been up there. So, again, a bit of confusion who knew what when. But now the question is, will the russians really join the coalition, really cooperate on sharing of intelligence. Will they even get together on selecting targets . A lot of confusion here. A lot of u. S. Military Officials Saying, theres going to be a very long way thanks so much. There is a bright spot, maybe. The turkish president has asked to meet with Vladimir Putin in paris on monday. Both will be in france for a United Nations conference on Climate Change. We know the russian president , Vladimir Putin, has refused a facetoface meeting or even a conversation on the phone, but still at least theres a dialogue, so is that a bright spot . With me now, a senior fellow at the foundation for defense of democrats and a counterterrorism expert. Well, david. Thanks. Its good to join you. Vladimir pooutin saying im t going to talk to the turkish president. But will he bend on monday when theyre both in paris . Its unclear but if he bends it will be on his terms. Putin is not a man who will make concessions lightly. Turkey does not have a whole lot of leverage in this situation, so hes very likely to do what hes been doing, which is try to demonstrate the benevolence of russia, the incompetence or ma lef lens or its interesting to listen to president erdogan of turkey because he talked tough against rush shashgs right, about that downing of that russian warplane, but he also said this, quote, we might have been able to prevent this rye violation of our air face differently. So, he appears to be softening his rhetoric. Might that apiece russia . Well, again, turkey has much more to lose than russia does. Russia has been going about not only stopping sort of the travel into turkey but also very openly reconsidering some of its economic deals, thinking of taking them away from turkey and other states in the region. He even mentioned israel, which would be a particular slap in the face. Given that its true erdogan is buckling a bit, both men both erdogan and putin tend to be very obstinate. They dont like to lose face publicly. Its possible putin will get what he wants from erdogan. If he does so, it will be on putins terms. I dont think he has much incentive to give any leeway to turkey. So, the United States just sits back and the u. S. Is trying to play a role but the u. S. Is confused what it wants in syria. Its very clear on the antiisis situation, but at the same time the u. S. Doesnt want to coordinate with russia, given russia is causing a large amount of civilian casualties. On the aside side, turkey wants to topple assad, russia wants to keep assad, and the u. S. Has been wavering. I think for the u. S. To play a productive role, we need to work out what our strategic objectives are. They are actually very vague and seem to be shifting almost every few months. Daveed gardensteen ross. Forces have arrested two men in mali they believe helped carry out the terrorist attack last week. 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Cnns ryan young is on Michigan Avenue where the protests are set to begin and rosa flores is at the Police Press Conference where were expecting new details on that little boys murder. Rosa, first to you and that suspect. Reporter were expecting to hear more from police. So far, a man named cory morgan has been arrested on firstdegree murder charges in connection to the killing of 9yearold tysean lee. You probably remember this story. It caused a lot of controversy and anger in this community because heres what police tell us. Authorities believe that an individual, and were going to learn more about this shortly, but that an individual lured this 9yearold boy into an alley and then shot and killed the boy. Now, weve learned that this boy was shot in the head and in the back. Now, weve learned from authorities as well that this boy was going to play basketball. He was going to cross this alley, simply to go to one of his family members house and play ball. But that was his fate, unfortunately. Now, its very disturbing, carol, because of those details. Were expected to learn more within the hour. But again, according to authorities in chicago a man named corey morgan arrested with firstdegree murder charges in connection with the tysean lee murder. Well get back with you with more information. In the meantime, protesters say murder charges against a Chicago Police officer in the shooting death of 17yearold Laquan Mcdonald are not enough. They want to oust the police superintendent. Cnns ryan young is on Michigan Avenue to tell us more. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. The two stories, it tells you how complicated chicago can be in one sense the Community Needs Police Department to go after the killer of this 9yearold child but on the other hand, they want to hold this Police Department accountable. They also want the states attorney to be replaced. We know black friday was a day protesters were going to come down to the famous Michigan Avenue and march up the street to try to disrupt black friday sales. So far the protests have been peaceful. Weve seen people raising their voices saying 16 shots, 16 shots. That stands for the number of times they shot Laquan Mcdonald. Of course, weve heard religious leaders get quite loud and vocal about what they want. I would like to see Michigan Avenue stores take a big hurt tomorrow businesswise. They say, how can you say that . It affects the whole city. So does murder. Trust the system. Trust the system. The systems not working. Reporter look, we know the superintendent has got out in front of this and he said, look, he wants to work with the community as hes making changes to the Police Department. There are some people who believe changes have to happen and they have to happen fast its a solution that will not come easy. Those firstdegree murder charges are hanging over that officers head but today at 11 00, they will march down Michigan Avenue. Ryan young reporting live from chicago. In the next hour, black lives matter expected to try to stop Holiday Shopping here in new york city. The protests set for outside the macys flag didship store. Wednesday night that same group stormed the store, disrupting early thanksgiving day shopping. Also in just a new minutes, what does go through a Police Officers mind in life or death situations. I took a Police Training exercise to find out. Well have that story for you next. dog mmm, beneful healthy weight is so good. And lowcalorie. Keeps me looking good. Hey, i get some looks, i hear the whistles. vo beneful healthy weight, a delicious, lowcalorie meal your dog will love. With wholesome rice, real chicken, and accents of vegetables and apples. 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Rm two statements yesterday, both of them denying that he knows who serge is or he knew he was disabled. I want to read from you one of the statements which you just referenced. This is from donald trump. He must think a lot of himself if he thinks i remember him from decades ago, if i remember him at all, which i doubt i did. He should stop using his disability to grandstand and get back to reporting for a paper that is rapidly going down the tubes. So, a pretty hash statement from donald trump. Thats the second of two he put out yesterday. The first one he says, despite having one of the alltime great memories, i certainly do not remember this reporter, serge kovaleski. And he begs to differ, hes been tweeting out a link to the story by his employer, the anoththe time times. He once used for the New York Daily News and he covered trump extensively for years. He said, ive interviewed him in his office, ive talked to him at press conferences. Ive interacted with him as a reporter while i was at the daily news. Hes in a said he said situation. No one can know whats in trumps head or what trump knows, but certainly is reporter is disputing the claim that trump didnt know who he was, what he looked like or that he was disabled. Atheen thna jones, thank you a man draped in an American Flag climbing over the white house fence, highly illegal. The man could have been killed by secret Service Agents as well. Joe johns is at the white house with more on this. Good morning. Reporter good morning, carol. The first family was in the residence at the time and this suspect has been identified by authorities as joseph caputo. Hes said to be about 22 years old and believed to be from connecticut. Hes being charged, were told, with unlawful entry, is the word authorities are using, and he could have a Court Appearance some time today. It really was a bizarre situation. These intruder situations are always holding what appeared to be a manila envelope in his mouth going over that fence, which has been refitted since last july with spikes. One member of congress saying they were told this would do the trick but apparently it has not. They have to try some new solution. As you know, there has been increased security concerns here at the white house, especially since just about a year ago in september when another intruder actually got over the fence and made his way all the way into the white house. So, now just adding to the concerns, and it sounds like theyre going to have to go back to the drawing board on figuring out a way to get people from going over the fence. Carol . Any clue as to what was in the envelope . Reporter Million Dollar question. And it would be nice to find out if he does make a Court Appearance some time this afternoon to figure out whether it was a message for the president or what was it . Just not clear right now. Joe johns reporting live from the white house. Thank you. The kremlin says there are no plans right now for president s of russia and turkey to meet the Russian Military is already moving aggressively to avoid another loss. More now from cnns matthew chance. Suddenly, russias warplanes in syria look much less vulnerable. This, the first battery of highly sophisticated s400 missiles already being deployed to the combat zone. These weapons could give russia significant control of the skies and just part of moscows hard line response to sh shootdown by turkey of one of its planes. Theres been a hard line response to this, too. Images of rebel ejecting after they were killing the pilot, drawing the kremlins fury. Defense Officials Say an intensive air bombardment, coupled with syrian artillery, has now killed all the terrorists operating in the area. Isis and other groups were targeted. In moscow, the french president , francois hollande, conditioned his efforts to Vladimir Putin agreed to share intelligence and koortd nature air strikes but the loss of the russian plane at the hands of turkey has complicated a deal, leaving the kremlin feeling angry and betrayed. Translator it did not even enter our minds that we could have been struck by a party we considered to be our ally. Reporter and amidsigns that russia is now preparing economic sanctions against turkey for this, progress towards a grand antiisis coalition may have been dealt a serious blow. Matthew chance, cnn moscow. So, russia is talking tough and showing how tough it is by bringing in that Missile System but it says its willing to work with the u. S. Led coalition to defeat isis. Joining me is mark hertling, retired commanding general in europe. Good morning. Good morning, carol. So, can Vladimir Putin talk tough on turkey and then say hes willing to join the u. S. Led coalition . Can he have it both ways . I dont think he can, carol. Putin seems to be attempting to deflect some of the criticism for whats been taking place there. He is certainly supporting mr. Assad, which is not put him in a very Good Alliance with mr. Erdogan because mr. Turkey is primarily against mr. Assads government. I think its interesting to hear some of the things mr. Putin has said in that press Conference Today with mr. Hollande. It looks like hes attempting to blame the United States for his aircraft flying over turkey and being shot down when he has not coordinated any of his aircraft maneuver. He is certainly dissing mr. Erdogan and all of his government approaching and calling him an ally when theres no indicators there was ever an alliance between russia and turkey. This is tape cal of mr. Putins reaction to crisis when they go against him. He attempts to double down, attempt to blame others and attempt to defend himself. So, president erdogan of turkey wants to talk facetoface with Vladimir Putin when theyre both in paris next week for this Climate Change conference. Vladimir putin says, no way, i wont even talk to him on the phone. What do you make of that . Maybe hell bump into the president of turkey and exchange a few words . I think thats more than likely. Truthfully, what weaver seen are these two very robust permits, both mr. Putin and mr. Erdogan, have been posturing and being very bellicose in front of their populations. While behind the scenes, their Foreign Ministers are continuing to attempt a coordination of sorts. So youre going to see diplomatic efforts continue under the radar while these two leaders continue to talk tough. Yes, i think youll see them probably bump into each other. I think mr. Erdogan will send the message again, stop flying in our air space and you wont get shot down. The introduction of the missiles into the air base is another indication mr. Putin is attempting to escalate when things should be deescalating. A last question because im curious about this. I know president hollande is trying to be a mediator between the United States and russia. Russia is seemingly for assad staying in office but might russia be able to provide what people are working on behind the scenes . I think that is certainly the hope. There are many that are saying, you cant back this individual when he is mr. Assad, you cannot continue to back him when he is, in fact, a big contributor to the crisis were seeing across syria right now. And i think there are many people attempting to persuade mr. Putin to talk with his friends in iran, to have some type of powersharing agreement with mr. Assad. Truthfully, carol, i think the United States would certainly sign up for that if it would tamp down some of the crisis and perhaps bring some refuse geese back while allowing elements of the free syrian force to have some say in the powersharing agreement in the country in syria. Now, thats not going to affect isis. Isis is still going to exist. I think there could be the potential of common enemy of many if mr. Assad basically agrees to a power shsharing agreement. Thank you for joining me this morning. Still to come in the newsroom, when to use lethal force and when not to. I took a Police Training course to find out how Police Officers decide in those situations. The answer isnt when i was sidelined with blood clots in my lung,h. It was serious. Fortunately, my doctor had a game plan. Treatment with xarelto®. Hey guys hey, finally, somebody i can look up to. Besides arnie. Xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. 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That said, the scenario im about to show you was designed by former navy s. E. A. L. , fbi agent and cnn analyst, jonathan gilliam. Reporter a weapons training scenario. A another of a victim received a call from her daughter that her boyfriend had a knife and was threatening to kill her. The victim is deceased. A male fitting the description of this individual named miguel, olive complexion, 56 to 58, tan pants, black shirt with logo on it and also a black or dark colored cap. Reporter its my judgment call. Im playing the role of a responding Police Officer. Its my job to protect the community and decide whether to use lethal force. Its been confirmed he just murdered somebody. And now hes loitering in the middle of the street. We know he murdered with a kn e knife. The probability of him having a knife is very high. You should consider that in your use of deadly force. Is your name Miguel Richardson. Yes. Im going to have to ask you to stop moving. Im going to have to ask you to stop moving. Reporter my heart rate increases, peaking as i engage with a possibly armed suspect. Stop moving now. Get on the ground. Show me your hands. Get your hands out of your pocket. Reporter what would you do, shoot or hold your fire . Take your hands out of your pocket. A difficult call. I decided to shoot. Lets see what you had in your pocket. Tell us what your thinking as you were well, he refused to take his hands out hf iz pocket. He knew he might have been armed with a knife. And so felt if he was close enough to me if he took his hands out of his pocket with a knife, he could have killed me, so i shot him. Now, he didnt speak english, which is the only kaf yet. That throws another wrench in the whole ball game. Reporter it turns out it was a choice i made not knowing whether the suspect was, indeed, arm pd. A person with a knife at 21 feet can get to you and stab you. He was much closer. Yeah. The whole thing is either you space gives you, what . Time. What if he didnt have a knife in his pocket . The threat is imminent. What is what is not known to you is whats in his hands, but you cant take the risk as a Law Enforcement officer that that guy is going to kill you because he can take your gun away and kill other people. You dont have to assume the risk as a Police Officer. Youre here because of the intelligence. The person not complying, that gives you on notice. And thats what one of the really difficult things to actually work with. Had we taken his knife away from him and he didnt have a knife in this scenario, you would still been justified in what you did. Wow. I want to bring in cnn legal analyst and criminal defense attorney, joey jackson. You know, it was tough for me to decide whether or not to do that kind of story because i but it is my job to bring perspective to things and thats what i tried to do. Im glad you did that because thats exactly doing that, brings perspective. One of the things they did as a former prosecutor in our training, we had to do ridealongs with the police in addition to going to a place called the fun house. A place where you wentwhere things would pop up, you had to decide to shoot, not shoot. As a prosecutor youre making charges against people and youre working closely with the police. Its important to have perspective. Theres a legal perspective and the more practical perspective. To this piece you decided to shoot. Theres a number of things, for example, if we would base this upon the shooting that just happened that are different about your piece than what happened. I dont think anybody could prepare for that moment, carol. The bottom line is Police Officers have a difficult job. They have a right to go home to their families, of course. People, you know, love them, want them home. And at the end of the day, you want to see them home. Thats why legally the Supreme Court has said officers need to make splitsecond decisions and need to be given the benefit of the doubted because of that. Natd in addition, its so easy for us to play mondaymorning quarterback. Theyre in the moment, i get that. From a practical perspective, there are many differences between doing the piece like that and what happened on that street. Unfortunately, whats troubling about that is this you know, when that suspect was approaching you, although he spoke a different language, nonverbal communication is universal. He was staring down the barely of a gun. Thats naets number one. Number two, he was approaching you. So its proper to feel somewhat threatened. Number three, because of, that had you to fire. Heres the other thing. I hear a lot of people say, well, why didnt the Police Officer shoot them in the leg or in the arm . Why did they have to kill them . And i was in the moment there. This is a fake scenario, of course. But i wasnt thinking about aiming at his leg or his arm. I wanted to shoot him and safe my own life so i shot him daes in the chest. Theyre taught to do that for a number of reasons. Officers are shot to shoot mass. Number two, you dont shoot for the leg because its a smaller target and wont terminate the threat and more importantly, it would miss and harm someone else with ricochet and everything else. In your scenario, youre along. Where you have the 17yearold shot, there are are a number of other officers there. Certainly, your threshold in terms of what you feared for by yourself would seemingly be a lot different when you have your brother and sister officers around you. In addition to that, he was approaching you. In chicago, it appeared as though the officer was approaching the actual suspect. Things like this lend perspective. At the end of the day, it teaches us officers have a difficult job. Having said that, theres an obligation to act reasonably and responsibly when youre taking someone elses life. The majority of Police Officers ive talked to would readily admit there are bad cops and bad shootings and they are readily able to admit to that. But by and large, they say, you know, most of us dont want to kill anyone because the consequences of living, even for the Police Officer r farreaching. I think so. Im one that believes that the vast majority, the vast majority, overwhelming number of officers out there are doing their job, protecting, serving and doing work that is thankless work and scrutinized by people like me, after the fact. At the same time, protocols are important, judgment is important. It all goes into that politic second when you have to make that decision. Thats why lawyers like me will analyze and say, was there an imminent threat . The force you used was it proportionate to the threat or did you keep shooting and shooting. The Supreme Court says, did you act reasonable . Not us as lay people, but officers in your similar situation, would they have done the same thing . I think it gives a lot of perspective people go through. The fun house they take you through, i made a series of mistakes. Unfortunately, carol, when youre an officer and have a gun, that mistake can be fatal. Thats why training is so important. Joey jackson, thank you so much. I so appreciate it. Her brother is responsible for one of the worst terror attacks in france in the past 50 years. Cnn sits down with the sister of a bataclan attacker. Its the final countdown the final countdown if youre the band europe, you love a final countdown. Its what you do. If you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. If you have moderate to severe. Isnt it time to let the. Real you shine. Through . Introducing otezla, apremilast. Otezla is not an injection, or a cream. 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In the meantime, the sister of one of the bataclan attackers is speaking out. She sat down with our hole hala gorani, who joins us. Reporter its the first time she expressed herself on international television. T sister of the 28yearold, one of the three bataclan attackers who ended up blowing himself up inside the concert hall. Of course, many of our viewers remember it was the site of the deadliest attack on november 13th. 89 people were murdered in cold blood there. He was a french citizen, traveled to syria. Its even believed his father traveled there to convince his son to come back with no avail. The family stayed in touch with him via messages, via skype practically the entire time he was in syria. They say he didnt were not apair of his plans to conduct this terrorist attack. I spoke with his sister. I asked her, when was the last time you were in touch with your brother and what was the last last considerativersation with reporter in your last contact with him, was it just an ordinary conversation . Yes. Reporter with absolutely no sign anything like this could happen . No, no sign. Totally normal conversation. I asked him how he was and he told me, listen, i am very well. I have a lot of things to deal with at the moment, so i will call you very soon. Send kisses to everyone and to my cat. Reporter how do you reconcile your brother who says, kiss the parents, kiss the cat, you know, ill call you soon, the little boy you grew up with, with a man who so coldly murdered dozens of helpless people in a concert hall . Translator to me theres no link. Its almost like its not him. Theres no chance. I know that its real, but reporter carol, theres still a certain level of denial. We know our brother, we know our son. He was a nice guy, et cetera. 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