Transcripts For CNNW CNN Newsroom With Carol Costello 20141202

Administrations message. When it comes to adapting to this administrations policy. Youll recall just before chuck hagel was ousted over at the pentagon he had written a scathing memo over to National Security advisor susan rice calling into questions t president s policy on dealing with isis and syria. So they may not be looking for somebody who will be standing up to them everyday of the week. We should point out that just until recently jay johnson, the Homeland Security secretary, was in the running for this position. Were told by an Administration Official that he is no longer in contention for the job of defense secretary and ash carter is sort of the last man standing because jay johnson took himself out of the running or is no longer in the running. He is testifying up on capitol hill right now at a Homeland Security Committee Hearing on the president S Immigration plan and as barbara knows, if jay johnson had moved over to the pentagon jay johnsons successor would have to be named. And that would have created more problems for this white house. Jay johnson, if he were to be in a defense secretary confirmation hearing, would probably be asked about the president S Immigration plan which is deeply unpopular with a lot of republicans and the new Homeland Security secretary if jay johnson were replaced would have to answer questions about the president S Immigration plan. So in many ways ash carter became the last man standing because this was becoming a complicated process in terms of picking somebody. A lot of other people thought to be frontrunners for this job dropped out of the running. People like michelle flournoy, people like senator jack reed were very high on the list and took themselves out of the running. Carol . Said no thank you. Jim akcosta, barbara starr, thanks to both of you. Apparently, its hard to say the word sorry. The st. Louis rams and the st. Louis Police Department are in a war of words over whether or not the team apologized for sundays protest where are where five players put their hands up as they entered the field. In the meantime, president obama is laying out his plan to build trust between africanamericans and Police Across the country. That plan includes overseeing the u. S. Mill military equipment by local police, creating a task force to establish accountability and trust and funding for police body cameras. Ed lavandera live in ferguson to tell us more. Good morning, ed. Reporter good morning, carol. This faceoff wean the st. Louis Rams Football Team and various Police Associations here in the st. Louis area kind of overshadowing what is some good news. It was yet another quiet night here in the city of ferguson. While the grand jury proceeding in st. Louis county has concluded, i can report this evening that the justice departments investigation into the shooting death of Michael Brown as well as our investigation into allegations of unconstitutional policing patterns and practices by the ferguson Police Department remain on going and remain active. [ cheers and applause ] reporter inside the historic Ebenezer Baptist church, attorney general eric holder gave a speech. The attorney general paused to ensure protesters voices could be heard. What we saw there was a genuine expression of concern and involvement. Let me be clear, i aint mad at you, all right . [ cheers and applause ] reporter late monday night, the st. Louis rams addressed the controversy by five of its players, their hands up dent shoot message. A local Police Association said it implied while Michael Brown was shot while attempting to surrender. The rams head called the Police Officers and said in part we expressed our respect for the concerns surrounding yesterdays game. The rams will continue to build on what have always been strong and valued relationships with local Law Enforcement as we come together to heal our region. But the rams spokesman followed up making clear they did not apologize. The nfl is not apologizing its Spokesman Says we respect and understand the concerns of all individuals who have expressed views on this tragic situation. Back in missouri at the First Community meeting of the ferguson commission, more frustration. We understand that were getting killed out here. For his part, president obama promised to follow through. Part of the reason this time will be different is because the president of the United States is deeply invested in making sure this this time its different. Reporter nationwide, demonstrators simply walked out on monday. Walk out of school. Walk out of work. Reporter encouraged by the movement to flood the streets in protest. And, carol, i want to pass along national is just coming in to us now. We have learned that the ferguson Police Department is launching a formal investigation now into, if you remember back last monday night, Michael Browns stepfather louis head in that video that came out, many people had basically accused him of inciting the riot that launched afterwards that night that weve elevened from the ferguson Police Department that they are investigating that matter as a possible inclimate of riot with the Police Department tells us they have interviewed several people that were with louis head that night but they have not spoken with him yet. No charges have been filed yet, not clear if they will be filed but weve learned that they are at least formally investigating that situation and looking into whether or not he incited a riot last monday night here in the video youre seeing now. Carol . When he said this [ bleep ] down. Ed lavandera reporting live from ferguson. I want to take you to pontiac, michigan. The sometimes tense relationship between police and communities they serve was on full display on thanksgiving day. A local store owner called 911 to report a man walking outside of the store who made him nervous. Theres a lightskinned guy that passes by five six times back and forth looking at us, looking inside. He looks suspicious. Are you or anyone else in immediate danger . No. I mean, im assuming yes because he keeps moving back and forth looking at us. The store owner was concerned because the man has his hands in his pocket. Now, the store owner had been robbed multiple times, thats why he called 911. But heres what happened when that young man walking in front of that mans store with his hands in his pocket was stopped by police. Doing what . Walking by okay. You were making people nervous. By walking by. They said you had your hands in the pockets. Wow. That makes people nervous to call the police when its snowing outside. It does. So are you okay . Im fine, how about you . Im good. What are you up to today . Walking with my hands in my pockets. Walking. Are you upset . The police situation, this is outrageous that you would let somebody tell you theres people with their hands in their pockets, theres 10,000 people with their hands in their pockets. Youre right, we have a lot of robberies. You say youre fine, youre good. Im fine. Make sure i get this on camera. Me, too. For my safety and yours. Im being respectable, youre being respectable, the whole situation im mad at the situation of whoever called. Thats crazy. We have to check it out. If you were feeling nervous, wed check on you. For sure, i would just never call. Do we have a picture of the young man. . The young man was a light skinned africanamerican man. He was a young man, probably around 30, 35. You can sort of feel for everybody involved in that story. I want to introduce you to tom manger, the chief of police for montgomery county, maryland. Welcome, sir. Good morning. And i would guess this is the sort of thing that was talked about yesterday in that big meeting with president obama. Yes, these kind of interactions happen every single day. We get calls from folks who s see we encourage people if you see something suspicious call 911. So we get these calls everyday and we have these kinds of interactions. Folks its not a pleasant thing being stopped by police but i think its important for the public to understand that often times were responding to someones complaint and but its incumbent on the officers to be respectful and not escalate the situation in terms of their interaction with somebody. Just having a casual conversation. Got a call, what are you doing, everything okay . I think the officer handled that appropriately. And even the young man said that the officer was respectful toward him. He was more upset at the store owner who called 911 simply because he was walking outside with his hands in his pockets. Whats the answer to easing tensions between police and communities . First of all, its conversation. If anything positive has come out of ferguson it is that every police chief in this country has had i guess a some encouragement and its been a catalyst for more conversations in the community. I know in my community weve been doing outreach relentlessly for many, many years to all segments of the community. We have a very diverse community. But since august there have been people who called us and said come out to our meeting, come out to our event. Its been great. Instead of folks initiating the outreach weve had folks inviting us. And to have these conversations about the relationship between the police and the minority community, to have the conversations about the militarization of police, to have conversations about use of force, those are conversations that we need to have with the community everyday. Its obvious since the community reached out to your Police Department that the Community Trusts the police in montgomery county. Whats your tse zplet. Its not a secret. Its just a relentless effort. Let me be clear, i think we have Great Community support, we do a lot of surveys and have Excellent Community support but believe me not everyone trusts the police in montgomery county. Not everyone trusts the police anywhere. Its those communities, for us its more the new immigrant community, we have a large number of new immigrants that live in our jurisdiction. Our outreach to them has to be just everyday trying to get the message across about what our policies are toward immigration and the fact that we have unreported crime in those communities. So just doing the outreach to make sure that people know that we are their police, too. Its also in who you hire, isnt it . Exactly. One of the biggest responsibilities that any police chief has is to make sure were hiring the right people and, you know, theres some thought that a certain type of person is wants to become a police officer. The fact is that we are as diverse in terms of personality, in terms of every aspect as the community is. And you want to hire people that have compassion, you want to hire people in have good interpersonal skills, that display empathy. We can train people to do police work and deescalate situations. We can train people in how to interact with people, but you cant train people how to be compassionate or how to be empathetic. Those are things that i think you want to hire people that have those qualities already. And you know, just going forward, we often hear about how you have to obey Police Officers, do exactly what they say no matter how tough they are, but police work is more than that, because you sometimes accomplish more through compassion than you do through where have had a doe. Absolutely. When you get to a point where the only way youre getting compliance and cooperation from the community is to force it under threat of law, i think youre really coming from a position that is not optimum. The fact is that you can walk into a situation, diffuse it by demonstrating respect to the people that youre dealing with, explaining why youre there, explaining what youre trying to accomplish. Those often times when you have that kind of approach you get so much more cooperation. You get and thats the way you build trust with each one of our interactions. Let me be clear as well. There are many times when officers are thrust into situations where its already at a point where theres a lot of danger involved, where theyre the officers need to take control of the situation. So its not ease so easy its easy when you walk into a situation where you can sort of control how things go in terms of a conversation and how it begins. When you get there and youve already got some sort of dangerous situation in progress, its not quite as easy to deescalate it sometimes. We train our officers to do that. But it does we have to react to whats going on in front of us as well. Police chief tom manger of montgomery county, maryland. Thank you so much for your insight. I appreciate it. Sure. Still to come, former supermodel Janice Dickinson breaks down as she tells cnn in graphic detail what she says bill cosby did to her. Its affecting me in my house, its affecting me its really affected these women. But im strong. But cosbys attorney is firing back calling dickinson a liar. 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Former supermodel Janice Dickinson is among the accusers. She says cosby drugged her and rained her after they had dinner together in lake tahoe in 1982. Dickinson sat down with cnns Frederica Whitfield and described in graphic detail what she says cosby did to her. What has held you back all these years from telling this story in detail until now. I remember being humiliated, disgusted. I had revulsion towards cosby and cosby was a very powerful man and probably still is, you know . I trusted this man and i stuffed it. I compartmentalized it because i was embarrassed. At what point did you find yourself alone with mr. Cosby, you trusted him but then things went in a different direction, in your view. Mr. Gardner, stu gardner left the dinner table. I was alone with him and i had menstrual cramps. I had you know, stomach cramps. He said oh, ive got something for that. And he gave me a pill. Did you ask what it was . I dont remember that. I dont remember. But if hes giving me a pill, i trust the guy. I trusted bill cosby. Why do you feel like you trusted him. Because of his demeanor and the promise of a career and i trusted him and i wanted a television career. I always had i had had a successful career for commercials. I wanted to take it to the next level. How do you move from . How do you prove that when its your word against his. I should have gone to the police but once again i was too embarrassed and i was too disgusted and i was afraid for my career soy moved out. Can i prove it . I cant produce a stain on my pajamas and i cant produce the semen that was actually or i didnt go in for an examination of of my woman hood down there. I didnt do rain counseling or any of that. Had i known, i would have. But the repercussions from all of this look how its blown up now on me. Im being slandered and called that i lie. Bull [ bleep ] attorneys, i am not lying. You werent there. I can prove it with polaroids. Put a lie detector ters on me and put a Lie Detector Test on the attorneys and put a Lie Detector Test on mr. Bill monster cosby. Wow. Frederica joins us now from cnns headquarters in atlanta. Dickinson didnt hold back. She didnt hold back and she says, you know, for 30 years she did. At first she said she was afraid, she was afraid for her career, she remained silent. But then she said in recent weeks she felt empowered by the women who have come forward. She says quite the opposite has happened to her versus what Barbara Bowman talked about this morning. Barbara bowman says she has received lots of accolades and support. Her voice mail is full and Janice Dickinson says the opposite. Now there is silence, there are scowls when she goes out in public. She says it used to be she would go out and public and people would say hey, girl. You go, girl. But quite the opposite. She says she is fearful no more. Shes been empowered by the other women and she says she is there for them just as she knows the other women who alleged sexual abuse by bill cosby are there for her. And she believes that while the statute of limitations may have run out, she can not press criminal charges against bill cosby she and her attorneys are exploring whether slander or libel are a possibility because bill cosbys attorney martin singer has called her a liar. We have to talk about this, though. Dickinson and her ghost write and her book no lifeguard on duty did not include allegations about alleged ra ed. You talked with the ghostwriter, what did he say . I talked to the goes writer, pablo fenvez and he says yes, indeed, janice did tell her the story back in 2001 but he also discourag discouraged her from even thinking that story would make the book and this is why. Did you ever write a draft based on her story and send that draft to Harper Collins . No. I do not. Did she know you hadnt done that . Well, i think based on our conversation i said to her this is basically going to be impossible to get past the lawyers at Harper Collins. But she also read the draft that i did turn in and she saw that the bill cosby material was not part of it. So you see, carol, the conversation took place according to pablo and janice, they do corroborate that, the discussion did take place but he never wrote the draft to send to Harper Collins. And so Harper Collins, he says, never learned of it by way of a draft. He may have conveyed it to the publisher, he says, but his memory is a little scattered on that in terms of verbally but he knows indeed he never sent the draft so the draft was never denied or lawyered by Harper Collins. Interesting. Frederica whitfield, many thanks. Still to come in the newsroom, will jeb bush run for the white house . He says hes thinking about it. 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The House Foreign Affairs joint subcommittee 1 holding a hearing. Chilling words from the chairman, ileana ros lehtinen. Fighters are joining isis by the tens of thousands and an r an unprecedented threat for security. Well continue to monitor this and keep you posted. On to 2016 and the race for president. Yes, we have to talk about it. Will jeb bush run . He says hes thinking about a run for the white house, even plans to decide soon. While he mulls over the move, hes considering strategy. I dont know if id be a good candidate or a bad one. I know i kind of know how a republican can win, whether its me or somebody else. And it has to be much more much more willing to be itive, practical now in washington, lose the primary to win the general without violating your principles. Its not an easy task to be honest. An honest man, i like that. Jeb bush is not the only big name gop voters would like to see on a president ial ballot. Cnns john king is here with a cast of thousands. Good morning. Almost, carol. Youd have to consider jeb bush if he runs and hes getting more serious about phone calls to lay the ground work. If he runs he would be formidable but look at these numbers. Theres no frontrunner. You cant give anybody the frontrunner except maybe mitt romney. If mitt romney were to run again and he says no, no, no, he would be at 20 . Dr. Ben carson 10 . Then you see jeb bush, Chris Christie, mike huckabee, then you have to governors and senators in the 6s, 5s, 4s, 2s. Usually we mow whos next. We dont this time and romney says he wont run. If he doesnt, then jeb bush comes on top. Dr. Carson at 11 and christie and paul ryan, all familiar names. The thing most interesting about this is, number one, bush is formidable but not a frontrunner and number two the ben carson factor. He had a platform as a commentator on fox news. His books are very popular in evangelical bookstores. Were seeing hes not a politician and republicans are disgusted with washington so theyre looking at him as an outsider who could run. But if you look at this, ive been doing this for 30 years, never have you seen a republican field so wide open. Interesting. So what about the democratic side . Thats a very different calculation. No frontrunner on the republican side . Look at the numbers on the democratic side. Hillary clinton 65 . Wow thats jeb bush would look at those and be envious. Elizabeth warren at 10 . If clinton doesnt run that gets interesting. Joe biden at 9 . Bernie sanders at 5 . If clinton doesnt run, carol, and we all expect she will run and we expect well hear from her in a month or two, the loyalty to joe biden, loyalty to joe biden kicks in there. But if youre Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton doesnt run, youre looking at that number and smiling because you think the liberal base wants you to run. Again, remember, we should be clear, she has been Crystal Clear she is not running. Again, that is an answer based on Hillary Clinton running. So we wait the big decisions. These polls in some ways are meaningless. The election is so far away. But as the candidates have to make these decisions, you have to build the staff, you have to raise a boat load of money. Some candidates have to make decisions quicker than others. When they see these polling numbers, thats what starts the conversations and the competition and the domino effect. Once we hear from jeb bush, well hear from Chris Christie and rick perry and so on and so forth. Rob portman, the ohio senator saying hes not going to run in 2016, hell run for reelection. So some voters might think its silly to talk about this but if you want to run because its so hard and takes so much, the candidates have to be thinking about this right now. All right, john king, thanks so much. I want to take our viewers to capitol hill right now because john boehner, the Republican House speaker, is holding his weekly meeting and we expect him to talk about funding the government and a government shutdown. Lets listen. This week well pass important legislation to help families with special needs and prevent tax hikes on millions of families and Small Businesses the president , on the other hand, has ignored the will of the American People and has refused to listen. He himself or his decision to take unilateral action on immigration, action he himself said exceeded his authority makes it harder for the American People and their elected rem representatives to trust his word on any issue. I said before thanksgiving republicans would fight his unilateral actions, were looking at a variety of options both for right now and when republicans control both houses of the Congress Next year. Well continue to discuss with our members a number of options in terms of how we will deal with this in consultation, again, with the members. But no decisions have been made at this point. Welcome back, i hope you had a great thanksgiving. Ill start with something i never thought id do or never done before. I agree with chuck schumer. And i want to quote senator schumer. When he talked about obamacare he quoted it wasnt the change we were hired to make. All right, well jump out of this and talk more about what the House Speaker was intimating in his remarks. Dana bash is covering this. Ill take a break and dana will join us on the other side. Well be right back. In this accident. Because there was no accident. Volvos most advanced accident avoidance systems ever. The future of safety, from the company that has always brought you the future of safety. Give the gift of volvo this season and well give you your first months payment on us. My name is karen and i have diabetic nerve pain. 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Domestic violence in sports will take center stage on capitol hill as yet another panel holds a hearing, this time if the senate. This morning, the man whose name and face have come to associate with sports and Domestic Violence opened up about the infamous elevator video that showed him knocking out the woman he later married. Now ray rice is asking for a Second Chance to play in the nfl. Hes been cleared to return but no team has picked him up. Not yet. Heres what he told the today sho show. What do you think it would take for another owner and another group of fans to put the images of that video behind and say well take a chance on ray rice . One thing i think that they would have to be willing to look deeper into who i am and realize that me and my wife had one bad night and i took full responsibility for it and one thing about my punishment and everything going along with anything that happened is that ive accepted it, i went fully forward with it, i never complained or did anything like that. I took full responsibility for everything i did and the only thing i can wish for is a second chan chance. Joining me now is a brand strategist and the president and ceo of the britto agency. Welcome. Thank you, carol. Thank you, carol. Marvette and i were talking in the break, jan if this was a onetime event, does that constitute Domestic Violence . It does. The assault, theres no question that the assault happened. But most violent relationships are not isolated incidents. We find there is a cycle of behavior where there is tension that builds, an assault that happens but a honeymoon period that follows. A period of promises and hope that there will be change. What that means, however, is that it will cycle back through the tension building, the assault, the honeymoon again and again and again. Where there is no accountability, we see where there has been abuse, it will happen again, it will increase in frequency and often in severity. Some might say that ray rice, hes paid a price. Some might think it wasnt a high enough price but hes probably not going to play football this year, right . Maybe he wont next year. But he wants to be reinstated in your line of work because youve met many Domestic Abusers, do most of them return to their careers . Absolutely. Very few abusive people lose their jobs. What we find is that there are some companies, there are some corporations like maury kay, inc. Or verizon that have a corporate zero tolerance policy but most businesses, most employers do not hold accountable perpetrators of violence. What we do find, however, is that the majority of those who lose their jobs are the victims themselves because of absenteeism or lost productivity or the dangerous environment thats created around the abuse by the abuser that its actually the victims that lose their jobs permanently. Look, jan, in your mind, should ray rice get his football career back . You know i want to hope this wont happen again in that family. I want to hope this is not just a honeymoon period for them. We see, however, that many times the first reported incident of violence, the first public incident, is not the first incident. My hope for that family is that there is healing but only they can tell. Just the last question because marvette and i were discussing this. We had a long conversation in, like, 60 seconds. In ja nay rices own words, what started this terrible fight that night was they were arguing over something stupid, both were drunk and ray rice spit on her and she slapped him. Now, ive never been spit on by anyone so its hard to believe that this is a one time event. Just because of that in my mind. Well, again, i cant speak to this couple but i have to say that normal people dont spit on other people. And when you if he had been a victim of the abuse, he could walk away. He could walk away. That elevator punch never had to happen and thats what the message is, is the accountability for perpetrators of Domestic Violence. Weve started some great conversations in this country because of this particular case. But were not through. Okay, on to you, marvette. Youre a pr and brand strategist and ray rice appears it appears hes sorry and wants to set a new example for people and you see the interview took place in the kitchen and janays parents were beside the couple. So in your mind as people watch him on the today show, are they receptive to what hes saying . I believe that they are. I believe he struck a common chord in that interview. It was sincere, heart felt, and we have to remember the today are redemption for many people is rooted in the fact that we are all one bad decision away from a lifechanging mistake. I think that Common Ground is what allows the public to forgive. And i do believe that we saw a very humble, a very sincere ray rice. We also saw her family stand with ray rice. I think that was important for us to see. I do believe that fans will look past this infraction. They wont forget it but i believe he has a right to earn a living and i do believe this is a teachable moment i think his wife will emerge. What i liked most about the interview. What i respected about them is they didnt immediately stand to become the poster child for Domestic Violence. They said we want to take time, we want to heal, we want our wellness to be first then we can emerge and be advocates and champions. In other words, it wouldnt be a good idea for him to jump in and say im going to be supportive of Domestic Violence shelters and work with battered women or anything like that. It would seem insincere. His interview was not scripted, it was genuine. It was a genuine apology. He also spoke to being prepped for his Baltimore Ravens press conference which we all know working in the field that that happens. The interview with matt lauer was not prepped, it was a sincere interview. And i think he should be given an opportunity to come back. What he did was not right and disrespectful and what he did should never happen to any woman or human being but i believe we all make mistake and we need to remember that we are imperfect people. So i think if we all really realize that basis we can allow this young man the road to redemption like we would all hope we would be granted. Im so torn about this. Honestly i dont know what to think. Its zbliflt it is difficult. Thanks to you both for your insight. It was fabulous to hear from both of you. Multifaith leaders united in the fight against modern slavery. Anglican, orthodox, jewish, muslim and hindu leaders joining pope francis at the vatican. They signed an agreement aimed to eliminate modern slavery and Human Trafficking by the year 2020. Cnns Christiane Amanpour was able to ask the pope a question on why this issue so important to him. Christiane joins us flnow from rome to tell us more. Hi, christiane. I couldnt help listen to your previous conversation . Do you know what we heard hear from antislavery activists . One of the leading causes for people to be so battered is to be susceptible to traffic and slavery is Domestic Abuse and violence. I find that extraordinary in light of the conversation youve just had. One of the most alarmingly fast rising ways of sexual of slavery is sexual trafficking. The pope here hosted an unprecedented number of major world religious leaders to make an unprecedented signing to try to end this scourge. And i moderated the panel and i asked him what it was that motivated this passion on his part. Holy father, you played a key role in establishing the Global Freedom network. You were the first person to call modern slavery and human traffic ago crime against humanity. As you appeal for this scourge to be eradicated once and for all, tell us what exactly motivated your passion about this particular scourge . Translator on behalf of all of us and our believes, we declare that human slavery in terms of prostitution organ exploitation and also Human Trafficking is a crime against humanity. The victims from from all walks of life but most times they are the poorest and the most vulnerable of our brothers and sisters. This situation is unfortunately becoming worse and worse everyday. I call upon all people in faith and their leaders and the governments and the companies, i call all men and women of good will to provide their strong support and join this movement against modern slavery in all its forms. Now, according to the organization that put this on, there are Something Like 36 million slaves around the world. And not just in the ordinary usual suspect corners of the world but also in the United States, in england, ear here in italy and around europe. There are tens of thousands of them. Most are in china and india, but its something now that World Leaders say they have to tackle and to wit there are a lot of conferences sort of spreading from the popes desire to really make this summit ripple and have some effect. Carol . Christiane amanpour reporting live from rome this morning. Thanks so much, christiane. I want to take you back to capitol hill now because, oh, just about 10 or 15 minutes ago House Speaker john boehner held his weekly press conference. He talked about immigration and he talked about, you know, funding for the government for another year and he talked about how the president should not have instituted that executive order on immigration. Dana bash was covering that presser. She joins us now with more. Hi, dana. Hi, carol. And all of those things that you just mentioned, they dont sound like they should interact with one another and that they should depend on the other but they actually do and heres why. The government runs out of money in just nine days. On december 11, unless Congress Passes legislation to keep the government running. And there has been a lot of pressure from some of the more conservative groups, outside groups, really, on republicans here in congress to use their power of the purse to try to choke funding for the departments and the government that will be responsible for implementing the president S Immigration executive order. However, what you heard this House Speaker say in a way that wasnt necessarily intended to give us all a soundbite but it was very clear from the reporting about what happened in a meeting that he just had this morning is that he made clear to his rankandfile republicans that they are not going to go along with that strategy because he didnt use these words, im told, but they all know, it could lead to another government shutdown. That really appears to be off the table even from some of the most conservative members of the House Republican caucus, carol, who we talked to in these hallways. Just real briefly, what their plan seems to be is to fund entire government for a year except for the department of Homeland Security and just have kind of a stopgap for a few months on that to give them time to figure out if they can do anything with regard to funding to beat back the president S Immigration executive order. 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As you can see, he said burn this bitch down. Thats what he said during the tensionfilled gathering in the city of ferguson after this garage decision was read publicly. I want to bring in our legal analyst paul callan now. So police are investigating this. If the stepfather is charged with inciting a riot, what could the penalty be . Well, you know, it would depend upon pow it was charged, carol. And this is a very unusual charge, i have to tell you, in modern times. While the Supreme Court has upheld inclimate to riot charges, there are conflict issues with the first amendment. In previous years, 20, 30, 40 years ago you would see charges like this. In recent times, modern times, its a very rarely used charge. Depending upon how its charged it could either be a misdemeanor, up to a year if prison. There are certain theories here that could turn it also into a felony which could be more than a year in prison. Im not finding under missouri law the use of that this statute in a very, very long time so it would really surprise me if you saw criminal charges brought. Ultimately this decision would have to be made by the prosecutor, mccullough, who was the subject of great controversy of the original case and he would have to make a decision about whether to charge or present it to a grand jury and that, of course, was a very controversial decision. So i suspect, though, in the end that nothing will come of it. It seems to me a lot of people would think maybe its overreaching under the circumstances. Why go there, paul . If i could interrupt you for just a second. If you were representing mr. Head, how would you represent him . Was what he said enough to incite a riot . Well, having watched the film, its its very provocatively said and, you know, its very hard to prove this charge because the law says that the words you have to intend through the use of the words to incite a riot or criminal behavior of some kind and secondly that usually you have to see that it actually did incite the crowd to do something. Now, of course, after he made these comments there were riots and there seemed to have been immediate activity by the crowd in question. So if youre going to try to put together a fact pattern here that makes that a criminal case, this comes pretty close to making out the criminal case. Now, on the other hand, because hes the stepfather of Michael Brown, i think if i were defending him what i would say is he had no intent to trigger this activity in the crowd. He was just responding emotionally to this what he considered to be horrible news that the grand jury had decided not to indict and he truly wasnt trying to incite a riot, he was just being overemotional. And i suspect that that defense might resonate and might be a reasonably good defense. Of course, there might be those who say, well, you know, theres probable cause, you have to charge it and let it be decided at trial later on and i think cooler heads would prevail in this situation and probably say this is a charge that shouldnt be blocked given the overall facts and circumstances and thats what prosecutorial discretion is all about. Paul callan, thank you very much. I want to bring in nick keisha lewis, shes with girls for gender equity, a felon throp thropic philanthropic activist. I dont want to put you on the spot. Just your reaction to this. Well, i think theres this outrage across the country, right . And so from new york city to Ferguson Young people especially are really feeling this. Really in the midst of the moment and i think that this country has reached a Tipping Point in which young people feel they arent safe walking down the street they arent safe in the housing projects. We have a case of a young man just killed in the new york city housing projects. So thats just the moment that were in. We find ourselves the in a moment of rage and fear and young people are really scared. We at n my organization that works with young people, were a community of adult allies, mentors, healers, social workers and lovers and so we feel it deeply with them. And youve described how deeply people are feeling this tension. You say were at a Tipping Point. To Ferguson Police are going to go after Michael Browns stepfather for inciting a riot the night after the very night the grand jury decision was read. If your mind should they be doing that . I have absolutely no legal background, like i said, im a youth advocate, im a philanthropic strategist so i want to play my role in recognizing that my work in this moment is not only to support the young people and to stand with them as they seek systemic and lasting change, recognizing that all black lives are at stake here not just the black lives of young men but also young women. Is this a Tipping Point or will this sort of go away after a few weeks . Well, from meeting with young people just this friday, the day after thanksgiving, young people from across new york city met and i absolutely do not think this will go away. Like i said, theyre in the moment where they need something to shift. They really need something to shift. And they are working tirelessly day in and day out for lasting systemic change. What would do that . What would push the shift . What do they need to hear and who do they need to hear it from . I think it takes work from all of us. It takes the great work of young people meeting with the president yesterday. So president obama sit and meeting with them. It also takes on the local level City Council Acting so theres a role for legislation here where we can shift policies and procedures and stop doing business as usual, right . So the demilitarization of communities, really supporting young people in terms of bringing about quality education reform. Making sure that theres jobs for folks in communities. So all of those pieces for years and years, we can see systemic change and weve had that support happen. Thank you for being with me. I appreciate it. Sorry to put you on the spot. Thank you for joining me today. Im carol costello. this hour with berman and michaela starts now. Good morning, im michaela pereira. And im john berman. We begin with breaking news out of ferguson, missouri, Michael Browns stepfather is being investigated by the ferguson Police Department for possibly inciting a riot. Lets look at the video at the center of this latest