Aide. The white house says that any suggestion mulvaney is working against trump, theres any distance between the two men is absolutely incorrect. What can you tell us. Were hearing from the white house now the judge will decide this hearing at 5 00 p. M. Can Mick Mulvaney join this already on going lawsuit. Were learning the person who brought this lawsuit doesnt even want mulvaney added on. Charles copper man, the original plaintiff here who asked the court to decide whose orders he should be following, the white house who claimed he had absolute immunity and did not have to testify or House Democrats who requested his testimony and eventually subpoenaed him for it, if mulvaney wants to ask the court to decide the same question, he should file his own separate lawsuit. Hes referencing the fact that he said a few weeks ago that there was in fact a quid pro quo when it came to ukraine. His attorneys say, since he has never disclosed any information relating to its officials duties at the white house, he should not be lumped into the same suit as Mick Mulvaney. House am dids have already said they do not want to prolong this fight in court. Thats why they with drew a subpoena for him last week, and if mulvaney is not allowed to join this lieutenant, its possible he could file his own, but brooke. This could be an effort at stall tactics, since these lawsuits are being fast tracked, theyre not fast enough. At this point the judge in the original lawsuit says he wont be likely to hear arguments on this case until december 10th, and with all these hearings moving fast and furiously, been wrapped up by christmas, that could be too late to force mulvaney anyway. Well see that hearing today at 5 00 p. M. Brooke . I want to analyze precisely what you reported now. We have dana bash joining us. Cnns chief correspondent. A cnn legal and National Security analyst. Ladies, lets go. The official working on the impeachment inquiry says if Mick Mulvaney has nothing to hide. His dual rolls both as acting chief of staff and director put him in a unique roll, should that be considered . The argument that hes trying to join this lawsuit to delay the inevitable is probably right. This lawsuit is really a separation of powers lawsuit. Its saying this claim of immunity, how does it balance out. Absolute immunity is broader than executive privilege. Thats about advice between people and the president. Absolute immunity is saying, Certain Senior officials cannot be called in front of congress at all. Basically, what cupper man and bolton have said, you already weighed any kind of absolute immunity that there was a quid proquo. I think the absolute immunity argument has not fared well in court. I dont think Mick Mulvaney is going to succeed on it. If there were any such privilege, hes waived it he does not work in any kind of sensitive area like specific issue. Go ahead, were obviously talking about. Were all so polite. The you were talking about a lot of lot of legal terms. My nonlegal term for what hes doing is cya. He understands where the train is heading on a couple different tracks. First of all, on the question of a fall guy. If it is determined as a lot of these witnesses, all of these witnesses have suggested in deposition that there was a kids pro quo. But the president didnt really know about it, it was the people on his staff. Well, he is, was the director of office of management and budget, he wasnt just chief of staff, but in charge of this kind of thing from the white house perspective thats number one and number two, he also as a former member of congress and somebody who is in the executive branch now understands as we were hearing the real constitutional separation of powers. As much as he wants to listen to his boss and say, im not going to testify, he may not have a choice. But i love that your point about cya does anyone know about the relationship between Mick Mulvaney and charlie cupperman and john bolton . Theyre not exactly buddies. The notion that mulvaney wants to get in on this no, exactly. Its an interesting piece of color those two Ukrainian Associates who have been indict ed. Giuliani directed his client to issue this ult merit um regarding the military aid to a representative of president zielinski over in ukraine. Giuliani denies that. Others who attended the meeting said the issue of aid was not brought up. All of these guys lack credibility. How do you decide who is telling the truth . I think at this point it is hard to parse this out. But lets just take the if true scenario, if this is true, were getting further and further away from the claim that this is some kind of official foreign policy, one of the defenses thats been floated by the president. Obviously giulianis private lawyer was engaging in this. But also an associate of giuliani doing a shakedown on the side. Its hard to see anything other than a personal interest being facilitated here. The other important thing here, this is extending the time line even wider than we previously knew. I think this is part of the arent president is trying to keep the focus on just the phone call, as if there was nothing happening before or after. That takes away a lot of the context. Where this is rel varnt, is that it adds one more potential data point if credited, if its true, to this pattern of events unfolding over time, and points to this abuse of power by the president. And then looking ahead, just to wednesday, lets take three steps back and talk about where we are for the third time in modern u. S. History, the house hatds vo has voted to begin a formal impeachment quality. Do you think this is must see v tv . Will americans stop to watch. The import and the consequences we dont know yet, but its absolutely crucial. It is crucial depending on what the witnesses say, and perhaps more importantly, how the members of congress draw them out. It is so interesting that the way that adam schiff designed this is that were not going to have a typical congressional hearing where you watch every member of congress start to either pontiff indicate and barely get a question in before their time is up. Theres 45 minute chunks for the democratic chairman and were also going to hear from their counsel who are really steeped in the details of this, to be able to draw them out. Okay. That starts wednesday, well be all over it. 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Another raw glimpse into the white house. Nikki haley details how two senators tried to get her to joining them in ousting President Trump. They confided in me when they resisted the president , they werent being insubordinate, they were trying to save the country. It was their decisions and not the president s that were in the best interest of america. The president didnt know what he was doing. Haley talked about this on cbs with both kelly and tillerson. You. Memorialized that conversation, it definitely happened in. It absolutely happened. And instead of saying that to me, they should have been saying that to the president. Not asking me to join them on their sidebar plan, it should have been, go tell the president what your differences are, and quit if you dont like what hes doing, to undermine a president is really a very dangerous thing. It goes against the constitution and what the American People want. It was offensive. . Response to all of this, Rex Tillerson did not give a comment to the washington post. As for john kelly, he declined to comment in detail, he did say, if providing the president with the most staffing advice from across the government is considered working against trump, then guilty as charged. Matt lewis is a senior columnist from the daily beast. Matt, welcome back. With this book, what do you think nikki haley is getting at, and why do you think shes writing about all of this now . I mean, i think part of it is, she is planning her future i see this as i know she doesnt like the word ambitious. Shes trying to frame herself, have her cake and eat it too, she wants to be seen as a smart conservative. But also loyal to trump. And i think part of this is an audience of one, she wants donald trump to like her, and at work he sent out a tweet recommending her book. Well come back to the having cake and eating it too. She did make news when she talking about the president s quid pro quo with ukraine, its not an impeachable offense. You say that is b. S. And you thought nikki haley was better than that, why . I felt nikki haley was a real bright shining light in the conservative movement and a future leader. This shows you how donald trump has compromised so many of the bright conservative leaders, people we thought might carry that mantle. Theyre all sort of complicit in Donald Trumps sins. And i think nikki haley is among them. The argument shes making is the exact same argument that Kellyanne Conway made on state of the union last week and Fox News Sunday last week. Its a bogus, b. S. Argument, because, yes, the aid didnt flow, and that is because after holding the money up all summer long, donald trump finally released the money after the Inspector General alerted the house intel committee, so they were covering their tracks, trying to prevent what happened from happening, and the ukrainian president zielinski was actually prepared to go and hold a do an interview and announce he was investigating biden. Basically what nikki haley is saying, we cant impeach him because it was attempted extortion or attempted bribery. Well, weve been which is what weve been hearing from a number of republicans. And i mean, you know, making so much sense, she can be like, its politics baby, and back to your cake and eating it too, im sure shes sharpening up her elbows, maybe for 2024. What do you think of the trump 2020 running mate rumors . I think i might have been the first person to float the idea at the dale when i beal ldaily trump may look to replace pence with haley. It makes sense, if youve noticed, the suburbs are a real problem for donald trump. I dont know if nikki haley can deliver them, but she would seem to be a pretty good choice if you were that desperate. Well remember this conversation, and maybe right around the rnc, well replay it, and you can say, i told you so. Matt lewis, thank you very much. Were moments away from a live cnn president ial tongue hall. Plus, senator Amy Klobuchar goes after Pete Buttigieg on his record, why she thinks a female with his resume would not be doing as well. Mp even hotter . You bring back Nashville Hot oh yeah its back. Crispy shrimp. Tossed in a spicy rub. And drizzled with sweet amber honey. More shrimp more ways. Endless shrimps fifteen ninety nine. Hurry, it ends november 17th but he wanted snow for thelace holidays. So we built a snow globe. Ill get that later. Dylan but the one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with homeowners insurance. What . 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A recent poll shows him in fourth place behind warren, buttigieg and sanders. Nationally, biden is neck and neck with senator warren. Lets go to the town hall site, jessica dean is there, set us up for what were going to be seeing tonight. Well have an auditorium full of voters that will want to talk about health care. Thats an issue that comes up number one for people in the democratic primary, its also an issue that biden and his campaign feel they are ver right on. They feel like they can continue to build a coalition behind that. He want to try out calling his public option biden care, that maybe he wants to create biden care. This is an issue weve seen come out forcefully. This is where we see him start to drive that criticism of Elizabeth Warren and medicare for all, calling it gymnastics in terms of her saying that she could pay for all this without raising any facts in the middle class. That brings up a second point we should look out for as well. Its a tight race in iowa, a very top tier of those candidates. Will we see joe biden criticize his fellow democrats. Will we see him talk about Elizabeth Warren. Is there room for on electability and an experience argument that joe biden might make. Buttigieg has been soaring in the polls, is that something that biden will want to rah dress tonight. More than anything, he wants to connect with people in this room and sway their support. Thank you, again. The live president ial town hall, moderated by erin burnett starts at 9 00 eastern. Joe biden is doing a messy cleanup, the former Vice President lashed out at his rival he wrote in part, these kinds of attacks are a serious problem. Warren responded swiftly in a fund raising email to her supporters, this is what she said. Over and over, were told women are not allowed to be angry, it makes us unattractive to powerful men. I am angry, im angry by everyone who has been hurt by trumps government. Biden said his comments had nothing to do with gender. Women in my life are angry, that has nothing to do with it, what i was responding to was, her saying that, if you disagree because i disagree with her, medicare for all proposal, and didnt think it was forthrightly stated, im running the wrong primary. Thats not angry, thats just misleading. Shes taking it and making it about how women are referred to. I think thats misguided . No, its totally its not anything that i did or intended to do, it had nothing to do with that. Head of Communications Outreach with the Hillary Clinton campaign was the Vice President of communications for emilys list. Did i see a laugh out of the corner of my eye when i said he said this has nothing to do with gender . Are you not buying that from the former Vice President . If this were the first offense of this kind, perhaps we could say all right. I didnt hear it with elitism. That gets thrown around to men and women equally. When you call a woman angry, its obvious how people are going to take that, joe biden has had a number of issues in using some engendered language when talking about his rivals. He told Elizabeth Warren he got votes for her when she was talking about her work. You did a good job at your job, every woman watching saw that and recognized that moment from their own workplace. This is not unfamiliar to us, thats why its a problem for joe biden. Were in an unprecedented moment right now, in terms of opportunity and dull threats to women. We really need to see a nominee who gets it, and continue comments like this over and over again, really make us nervous. On to another woman who would like to be president , Amy Klobuchar. I want you to list ing what she told jake tapper. Recent comments suggest that you dont believe mayor buttigieg is qualified too be the president , am i reading that wrong . Yes. I dont think i want to dwell on various press articles, but ill say this, i think any of the candidates that were on that debate stage were more qualified than the president of the United States right now. More qualified than trump . Mayor pete do you think buttigieg is qualified, period . Yes. Okay. But let me explain why i think im the better candidate. Im the one from the midwest thats won in a statewide race over and over again, and thats not true of mayor pete, thats just a fact. Focusing here on my fellow women senators, senator harris, senator warren and myself. Do i think that we would be standing on that stage if we had the experience that he had . No, i dont. Maybe were held to a different standard. Again, to be clear, she says mayor buttigieg is qualified, but she also says given his resume, if he were a woman that she wouldnt be anywhere near the debate stage. How does that comment land . That interview right there showed the challenges that women have to overcome when theyre trying to point out a double standard. No one is saying Pete Buttigieg should not be on the debate stage. What shes saying, is sexism prevents us from recognizing the same potential and talent in a woman. Thats all. Men get to show up with potential and we reward them for it. Sometimes that is a wonderful thing. President obama showed up with enormous potential and not a ton of experience. I think president obama was unequivocally a good thing. Women have to show up with the receipts. They cant show up and say, i know i can do something great. Think have to have the math done. They have to have their aagain dwas line itemed. They have to have Key Stakeholders bought in, they have to be ready to go on day negative one. Men arent treated that way, especially when were talking about running for president. I want to point out were talking about mayor Pete Buttigieg. That was unfortunate timing. 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Fast forward to 2019 and the trump inquiry in the digital age, and this time may be different. Along with nicole himmer, associated research scholar. Specializing in media, conservatism and the far right. Im fascinated by this. I was merely a twinkle in my mothers eye during watergate, not quite around. You said you remember it was referred to as the hottest daytime soap opera, tens of millions of people tuned in. What was that like . It was must see tv. You were fascinated by the process, because no one had seen that before. And also, there was new things every day, these characters would emerge, and you didnt know who they were. Sort of obscure, howard bake irwas not a well known senator, but he became well known. Fred thompson for the conservatives became an actor, because he looked so stately and he performed so well, it was really there was drama and unexpected development. There are tapes. You had to watch it, i think Something Like 80 of the population times have changed. The way people get their news has changed. And people tune in, everyones in their own corner. Look at this. If it wasnt your show, they would destroy him absolutely, youre the difference between donald trump and richard nixon. How will this be different . That is exactly how its going to be different. Yeah. Theres going to be this ongoing spin machine thats rolling around impeachment. We havent really had an impeachment in this kind of environment, it also means thats going to be happening on fox and other places, its going to be happening in the hearing as well, because republican congressmen are reflecting the things that are being said on fox. The president will be tweeting about his own impeachment inquiry, there are bits and pieces that will be on twitter, people will cherry pick. And im wondering, how you think americans will sort through it all and find the facts. Heres the thing, the americans arent interested in the facts theyll try to listen and hear whats going on. People now go too their own teams sports bar. So true. Thats whats going to happen. Youre going to be stuck in the silo of information that im getting, and thats all i huang the to hear. I dont want to hear the other side. The way the problems are going to be approached. There are diversions and distractions. They dont have to talk about what the testimony was. To your point i just had john dean on tv with me last week saying, i come off hey, thanks for the show, hes like, this isnt a show, this is real 4r50i life, but now he appreciates how it will be perceived. We talk about these household names, but with having human faces, personalizing whats happening, how much weight do you think that will carry . I think it matters a lot. There will be people tuning in, because they want to understand this better, weve seen the past few months the numbers on impeachment move. And theyre moving in response to things people are learning, having someone sit down and tell you exactly what happened, thats going to be something that has some power, its not going to affect what republicans in the senate do, but it is going to affect how people under what happened and what they believe should happen. You dont think i read this quote who said, if if only 10 are negatively affected by the testimony, his removal number jumps from 50 to 60 percent, it could leave some republican senators to consider a vote to impeach the president. You dont think this is going to sway i think people are in their corners, i dont think republicans will risk the wrath of fox news and the base going against them. I dont think theyll risk that. People will look at these witnesses and see their personality. I think the character assassination aspect. 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This comes as were hearing for the first time from the 13yearold boy who not only witnessed the murder of his mother and two of his Little Brothers he also hid other siblings, some of whom were injured, and walked 14 miles to find help and here is how he recounts the horror he experienced firsthand. It felt scary and felt like a lot of bullets. Afterwards i got us out of the car and got us on the floor and drove off so i started walking because every one of them were bleeding really bad. So i was trying to get in a rush to get there. Matt rivers is live in mexico city. And matt, so much exposure and bravery for someone so young. What what else are we hearing from this family . Reporter that is what i was going to say. Just the composure and the way that young man is able to talk about just a situation that none of us could really ever imagine being in and hearing from him is one of the first times that weve heard firsthand testimony about an event that we really dont know much about. That investigators continue to look into to determine how things happened and why. But in terms of that young man being able to shed light on what happened, we know hell speak to investigators and his father will speak to investigators. But one of the things they might ask him about is what he heard inside of the car and here is what he told abc this morning about what happened in the moments when the bullets started hitting their car. She was trying to pray to the lord and shes trying to start the car up to get out of there. She was a nice person and a brave woman. I tried to save her kids. Reporter hes talking about his mothers final moments there. Her trying desperately to save her children. Ultimately she was able to do at least for some of those kids. Now that young mans father spoke about the other children and some of whom had passed. Hear what he had to say. I lost a wife and two children. Im having to move the rest of my family with really no place to go at this point. To be honest with you, my boy is a hero simply because he gave his life for his brothers and sisters. Reporter so this family is part of a community as you mentioned off the top that lived in this area for decades and only now after this have they decided things are so untenable and so unsafe, they have to leave. And now the investigators wonder why this happened, a week later investigators still have not said what a possible motive could be behind these attacks. Awful. Thank you for sharing that brave little boy and his father had to say, matt rivers in mexico for us. Just a short time from now, a federal judge will hear arguments in a case that is critical to the impeachment investigation. It may decide whether the key members of trumps inner circle including the chief of staff could be forced to testify. And were live in chicago where hundreds of flights have been canceled because of well, youre looking at it, icy, snowy weather and one plane skidded off the runway. 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