To an end as he stated many times. We look forward to that happening. The president is not obstructing, hes fighting back. The president is stating his opinion. Hes stating it clearly. Hes certainly expressing the frustration he has with the level of corruption that weve seen from people like jim comey, peter strzok, andrew mccabe, theres a reason the president is angry. Frankly, most of america is angry as well. Theres no reason he shouldnt be able to voice that opinion. Once again as i stated earlier, the president stating his opinion. Its not an order. Hes been Crystal Clear how he feels about this investigation from the beginning. You said a moment ago the investigation itself is corrupt. The mueller investigation, you mentioned comey and strzok. The entire investigation based off dirty, discredited dossier that was paid for by an opposing campaign. The latest news from around the world with host Brooke Baldwin. At a public rally and yet people trying to yell over and defending them from doing their jobs and yelling their network sucks on live tv. Do you support that or not. We certainly support free will do of the press, we also support Freedom Of Speech and we think those things go hand in hand. Whats she saying there, kaitlan . She took an interesting tactic, brooke, blaming the media saying they report too much on National Security interest and reveal too much intelligence sometimes, which is an interesting approach that had nothing to do with what was happening at that rally last night. I think the reason the white house was asked this question was not simply because the crowd at the president s rally was championing this, it happened when the president was a candidate. Of course sarah is right, they do have free speech to say whatever they want. The point of this is the president himself retweeted a video of those supporters of his chanting at jim acosta saying that. Thats why the white house is getting the questions. Its not simply that it happened but the president retweeted it and seemed to endorse it happened on his own twitter feed where the white house says hes expressing his opinions. Jeff, you were in the room. When that happened, what was the reaction in the room . The reaction, Sarah Sanders said on the one hand, yes, the white house does not endorse any of that. As kaitlan said, thats not actually true. Actually the defense of this, going back to how she says the press needs to act responsibly. No question that is accurate. But then she brought up a debunked, absolutely false statement really from more than a decade ago about a Cell Phone Conversation of Osama Bin Laden being reported on. It was reported at the time, that was debunked literally a decade ago. Sarah sanders was reading that from the podium as a fact using it as an example of how she says the press is not responsible
with National Security measures. That was their prepared response to something that happened last night, going back decades ago to something that has been debunked. The reality is the white house has done very little to push back on the violence atri ralli and conversations atriali s at. The majority of people are interesting, kind and courteous. There are always a number of people who are chanting slogans like this. That certainly gets attention. But the white house drew itself into this, as kaitlan said, because the president endorsed it. Brooke. Jeff and kaitlan, thank you very much. Back to the president s tweet this morning on sessions and questions of obstruction, with me harry litman, former u. S. Attorney, Deputy Assistant attorney and cnn National Security analyst and former fbi special agent. Great to have both of you on. Harry, let me start with you,
youve got it, on this tweet where you essentially have the president ordering his own Attorney General to end the investigation into himself and campaign and russian interference that already clearly produced dozens of Concrete Results not to mention the New York Times last week broke the story that the personal counsel is looking into trumps tweets into their wide ranging obstruction inquiry. Do you think, sir, on the face of it, is the tweet Obstruction Of Justice . You know, on the face is one thing, but the basic question about whether its strong evidence of obstruction, is it a command or kind of suggestion. Man, its a mighty thin distinction. He uses the word should. But he says right now it is staining our country. Its a rigged witch hunt. I think if i were in the oval office and hearing the president of the United States use these words, i would take it as an order. By the way, order or not, its
still solid evidence of obstruction. The big we is going to be, is he trying to shut down the probe and why. Yeah, it certainly doesnt help him. The times does report it. But he should have known this from his lawyers months ago. Each and every one of these tweets is totally admissible. Its not simply the individual ones. As you put them all up against one another and follow the sequence, it really spells out someone who is ordering this probe to be shut down. Asha, you heard Sarah Sanders say, no, no, no, this wasnt an order. This was trumps opinion. Hes simply expressing his frustration. You have the president s attorney then soon after, Rudy Giuliani, saying, no, this was his First Amendment right of free speech. To harrys point he said should, didnt say must. But arent these tweets Official Samts from the white house . How do you read this. Yes, they have been construed as official tweets. We know, for example, Travel Ban Litigation his tweets were used as evidence of what could have been his intent in promulgating that. Brooke, i just want to point out the irony, when hes stating these things and Freedom Of Speech but i think it was only a week ago he started to strip high National Security officials of Security Clearances for expressing their opinions. Right. One thing i just want what i see in addition to what harry said about the pattern of obstruction, hes clearly feeling heat. It could be for the manafort trial and what hes afraid will come out. Lets remember mueller that indicted 25 russian nationals and 3 russian companies. That cant make putin very happy. This is starting to uncover, embarrass and expose their
operations here. I have to wonder in that private meeting oneonone, whether he has pressure coming from another direction that we dont know about to try to get rid of this investigation. Harry, just going along with this tweet and i want to move onto manafort, if trump made this request in private, this order or whatever you want to call it in private, Wouldnt Mueller then be like green light, interview witnesses, who was in the room just as he has for comey and conversations around michael flynn. Wouldnt that be similar . Completely. So thats right. You would go through and ask how would a reasonable person have construed this kind of eruption from the president and especially the giuliani statement its just First Amendment is a real nons. E. S r sequitur. Its just speed. How would you take it, et cetera. Its right flat out in front of us. I dont think it takes much of a strong inference to say trump is trying to issue an order here. The point you make is good, sessions is recused to either a bizarre order to try to carry out. Rod rosenstein, leads you to wonder, does he understand that. The other piece you didnt hear from russia today, not only did russia attack and interfere in the u. S. Elections in 2016, they are still doing so into the midterms this november. So asha, even if this wasnt an order, why would this president why would the white house want this whole investigation to be shut down because of russia currently . Thats the question. Once again, these are going mueller is equally going after russians as much as links
potentially between the campaign. If the president was being sincere when he stood walked back his walk. I cant remember where we are in the walk backs to the walk back, he believes the assessment that russia interfered in our election, this cannot be a witch hunt. This is finding the people responsible for that Election Interference and that cyber attack. So you know, its trying to have it both ways and very puzzling. Asha and harry, thank you so much. Great, great point. Thank you both on that. Coming up next, we want to get to Paul Manafort and the trial at the courthouse in virginia. Day two of the form Early Campaign chairman. Details on why one of the star witnesses may not testify. Gut wrenching video of aeromexico plane crash and its aftermath. Amazingly every Single Person on board that plane survived. In just a couple minutes well talk to the teenager who shot
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says, hey, thats a person who knows how much money they have. Hes not being duped by his assistant, rick gates. Apparently they arent allowed to say the word oligarch. Its a hard one to pronounce. Rich, rich russians. Last question. Do you think in the end Paul Manafort will testify, take the stand. Very unlikely. Most Defense Attorneys caution against that at every turn. Its very risky, very hard not to get caught in some type of inconsistency and really not necessarily sure theres much upside. Sarah coyne, thanks. Thanks for having me. A girl that survived the plane crash and pulled out her phone and started rolling. This is her video of the aftermath. Well talk to her and an expert about what went wrong but how 103 people survived it. Him and believe he may be suicidal. The doctor was shot while cycling to work on july 20th. And now to this story here out of mexico where its being called a kind of miracle. Aeromexico jet crashes and burns near the airport. When you look at these pictures, somehow all 103 people on board managed to survive. Watch as a passengers records the moment. This is strong wind gusts, brought down this twinengine jet moments after takeoff. Can we say how extraordinary this is, when you see this plane make this nosedive, crash, full fire and everyone on board survived. You know, its actually getting to be more typical, more the rule than the exception. There have been many recent plane crashes, for example air france in toronto, singapore, in taiw taiwan, asiana, more survived than not. Crasheses improved to help people survive the crash. Before then you think no one survived a crash. Not so anymore. Federal Aviation Association said over 80 of accidents no one dies. Incredible. Its incredible. What happened . Well, i think if given this
tape, often passenger Cell Phone Recordings can be extremely helpful in investigations, and it will be on the black box but the weather played a role. So many have wind shear, detection, these microbursts are so powerful they can literally drive a plane into the ground. A lot of the study stemmed from Delta Air Lines flight 191 which crashed in dallas. Tomorrow will be the 33rd anniversary of it, august 2nd, 1985. There aind shear, microburst, drove a plane into the ground. Its important to know this, not only can it put a plane in the ground. Excuse me were going to trumps personal attorney Rudy Giuliani. I said it just yesterday on fox that we believe that the
investigation should be brought to a close. We think they are at the end of it. They should render their report, put up i guess if we were playing poker, were not, Put Up Or Shut up. We have everything to believe they dont have anything. The president has done anything wrong. They dont have any evidence he did anything wrong. They have evidence up this alley and that alley, chasing things about cohen. We found out t scl. Week before that T Horo Report Cast Doubt on the legitimacy of the Clinton Investigation and in particular this one. Although in the Clintonvestig Hy were biased but no effects of bias. In this investigation they ren. Thats still investigated. They had such a severe bias they shouldnt hav been involved in it. I dont know what the
consequences lawyer, one of the consequences would be youre going to attack the legitimacy of the investigation. The Attorney General see this as a directive . No, it isnt at all. As we said immediately, its an opinion. He used a medium he uses for opinions, twitter. One of the good things about using that, hes established a clear sort of practice now that he expresses his opinions on twitter. He used the word should, he didnt use the word must. There was no president ial directive to follow it. He didnt direct him to do it and hes not going to direct him to do it. Is he still interested in meeting with mueller . Hes always been interested in testifying. Its us, meaning the team of lawyers, including me, that have the most reservations about that. As lawyers, i dont know, you all watch television. I dont know if you find a lawyer on television that ever thinks their client should testify. Why should we believe that, though . Everything he says indicates the
opposite, he doesnt want to . Really . I havent heard him say that. Ive heard him say i want to be interviewed if my lawyers can reach an agreement on what the ground rules will be. Weve had a hard time doing that. Were still im not going to give you a lot of hope its going to happen. Were still negotiating. We havent stopped negotiating. The most recent letter, they sent us a proposal. We responded to their proposal. They took about 10 days. Yesterday we got a letter back for them. Were in the process of responding to their proposal. Why doesnt he fire rosenstein. He wants the investigation to come to a conclusion and not interfere. Whats why this whole Obstruction Of Justice is nonsense. If he wanted to obstruct it, he could end it. Then you could battle whether he has the legal right to do that, which i think he does. Hes not going to do that. He has made it clear he wants it to run its course. On the other hand hes a person with a First Amendment right to
defend himself, First Amendment right to express his opinion. As a president its more important to express his opinion. These kind of allegations can do damage to the country, not just the particular president. If he believes hes innocent and he is innocent, he should speak out. You said the other Day Conclusion is not a crime. Some people said youre moving the goalpost. No, no, no. I said that from the very beginning. You know, jeff, its like an alternative argument, which is a little too subtle, i guess. He did not collude. There is no evidence he colluded. In the alternative, conclusion is not a crime. So if you wrote a brief, youd say throw it out on the wall, no conclusion. If you dont want to throw it on the wall, throw it on the facts. Do you think obstructing is a crime . Of course its a crime. You said the president under article 2 of the constitution, im not fog to tell you my opinion of it because i havent gotten to the conclusion of researching it. Under our conclusion if the
president is acting within his capacity as president and he fires someone, that cant be questioned. Now, is there a narrow area where you could question him . I dont know. We dont have to deal with that. He had legitimate reasons for firing comey. Just look at the horowitz report about his investigation of hillary. Look how he started the investigation. Look how he ended the investigation of hillary, rather. The whole who areal in the bureau was under serious questioning while he was there. A host of reasons. He wrote memo. A Legal Defense under article 2 and factual defense. If he didnt have article 2 he didnt obstruct anything. The cases say this, not all of them but many, the best proof is
in the pudding. He didnt obstruct the investigation. Its been going on for a year and a half. They talk to every witness they want to. They havent asserted an executive privilege. They have every single document. Unlike other president s, who had every right to do it, but we didnt assert executive privilege. Thank you. Thank you. I didnt witch it. I understand there was a Big Development but i dont know. Okay. So this is obviously Rudy Giuliani, this is the president s attorney. Hes at this Campaign Event in New Hampshire and he was caught by reporterses. Hes made news, he was on cnn with Allison Cammarata this week. The latest thing this week was conclusion isnt a crime. Lets read from headlines we heard from Rudy Giuliani now. Talking about a lot coming from the tweet the president sent out earlier this morning essentially saying his own Attorney General should end this, in his words,
witch hunt, this entire investigation where mueller was appointed not, by the way, by the ag but rod rosenstein, Deputy Attorney general. Saying the mueller team, they dont have anything. Saying this whole investigation needs to end, we heard from Sarah Sanders in the briefing. Reiterating about what the president said in a tweet, it wasnt a directive, it was an opinion. No, they dont want to fire rod rosenstein. So lets go to harry litman, former u. S. Attorney who is back with us. Ive got to tell you, the point in the end, harry, where you heard Rudy Giuliani say he did not collude. On the other hand conclusion isnt a crime. Im getting lost or confused in all the spin. Yeah, i think that is the country. They backed away from no conclusion, to, well, maybe
conclusion isnt a crime. I think here its a misnomer. They havent been talking conspiracy. The bigger point is his assertion about the legal and factual defense, the notion that under article 2 the president cant violate, be guilty of obstruction of just, something the Supreme Court has announced. On the facts, it doesnt really matter where the investigation has the president when he was speaking with comey was trying to shut it down for socalled corrupt motives basically to keep it coming home to roost in the white house. So i think both its factual and Legal Defenses dont really hold up. It has been a series of statements, restatements and
revisions from Rudy Giuliani in the last few weeks who seems at peace with it. Another statement from Rudy Giuliani, harry, stay with me, julia, he have you standing by as well. Giuliani on this whole will the president Sit With Mueller for the interview, he said the mueller team counteroffered on this trump interview, might that be a reason why the president seems so rattled today . We dont know yet. It seems a big hint. Were reporting im trying to report right now about what this letter from mueller actually said. We dont know. We know they had not heard from mueller. It was Radio Silence for a while. Perhaps they heard Something Back that could have agitated him, although i into with a source earlier that said that wasnt the case. It is an important piece of
information rudy let out there. We need to unravel this. Otherwise his arguments are the same that the president said should and not must. I dont know about you, if the president of the United States said to me, you should do something and i worked for him, i dont think theres a lot of difference between those two. But i think they are trying to slice the salami, because an order could be interpreted as more obstructive than just a kind of a suggestion that, you know, i hate this investigation and you ought to make it end. As you knowr brooke, sessions has recused himself. So he cant actually fire mueller. He would have to ask rosenstein to do it, if he could ask him at all. Which he just said they dont want to. Right. They dont want to. Look, the president has wanted all these people gone. We know that. Hes tweeted about sessions,
hes tweeted about mueller, hes tweeted about rosenstein. This is not new. The president doesnt like any of these people even though, by the way, as you know, he has appointed each and every one of them except for mueller whom rosenstein appointed. Harry litman, if youre robert mueller, the special counsel here and youre obviously looking at the president s tweets, taking in what the president s attorney is saying on television, what are you thinking right now . First im thinking this is all admissible. Much of these might be designed to play to the base or whatever but each and every tweet is going to be a piece of evidence thats going to go to the critical issue in obstruction. We know for sure he tried to shut down the probe. The question will be did he have
socalled corrupt intent. Was he basically trying to keep protect his own skin and that of his family. Each of these is going to be significant. I think they are also significant in the aggregate, brooke, because the more the president sort of waffles and says Different Things and back pedals and changes the narrative, the more it looks like the truth is, in fact, something he knows he has guilty knowledge about, which is hes trying to shut it down for selfish reasons. Let me jeff toobin is joining us. Im told hes at there he is. Jeff, youre there in New Hampshire. Were you there when giuliani was talking to reporters . Did you just hear what he said . Yeah. Thats why im here is im following mayor giuliani around. I thought he said Something Interesting i had never heard him say before. He said, well, this was on twitter where he gives his
opinion, and its not the statements on twitter are known to be opinions as opposed to president ial directives. I dont know what exactly to make of that. Official white house statements. Well, thats the other thiet. I believe Sarah Sanders in the past said these were official white house statements. That distinct was something new i hadnt heard before. I dont think if its legally significant but its an attempt to draw a line between what he says on twitter and official orders that he gives. I dont know if that would hold up legally. I dont know how you would test that. That distinct that distinction the mayor drew is one i hadnt heard before. Saying the mueller team reaching out and counteroffer
for interview between the president and mueller team. Tell me more about what the president said and your interpretation of that. One thing he has been saying all week, ive been with him much of the week, ten days ago we responded to their latest proposal for the interview but we hadnt heard back from them. Today we just heard back from the Mueller Office in terms of their latest counterproposal. This has been going on for months this drama about will he testify, will he not testify, these negotiations. Based on everything ive heard from the mayor, notwithstanding the president s professed desire to do this. It certainly seems like no interview is happening. That then raises the question of Whether Mueller will issue a subpoena and are we off to a multimonth legal battle that could wind up in the Supreme Court. Just in terms of a voluntary agreement to testify, that sure looks unlikely based on everything ive seen. Just lastly back to giuliani regard to this tweet, it wasnt a directive to the Attorney General, it was the president s own opinion. He was the one who said he didnt say we have the tweet highlighted, he said Attorney GeneralJeff Sessions should stop this rigged witch hunt. Its not like he said must, which sounds mighty reminiscent to me, jeff, who said on the would, wouldnt think. Yeah. You know, again, when the president of the United States says to a cabinet member, you should do something, that skhur sounds like an ordered to me, whether its on twitter or not. The interesting distinction the mayor was attempting to draw moments ago, oh, well, it was on twitter so its more of an opinion rather than a directive. People can evaluate as they choose to. Okay. All right, jeff toobin, thank
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