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Got jake tapper off the top here. Our cnn chief washington correspondent and host of the lead and host of state of the union. Jake, good to see you. Listen, obviously, i want to get into some of your reporting on this tale of two dinners or really two versions of one dinner. But first, i want your response to the whole, i have nothing to add, you know, noncomment comment from the press secretary. I dont no what he could possibly say that would make that tweet seem like anything other than a threat to the fbi director to not talk to the press. Its an odd statement. And then, as youve noted earlier in the show today, sean spicer declined to answer the question several times, when asked if the president is recording his conversations. Which is a stunning turn of events, given that, obviously, any such recordings could theoretically be suspected if need be, one. And two, obviously, there are, you know, the question of recording your conversations against people you know, without people youre meeting with knowing about it, is, almost the definition of nixonian. So theres that. Then there is the center of a lot of this is this dinner that happened, you know, seven days after the president is inaugurated and you have this great detail tweet, essentially, with the opposing views of what, you know, the president has said would happen at the dinner. And what this comey source said happened at the dinner. Yeah, two days ago i reported that this source close to comey told me that there were two reasons that the fbi director was fired. One was his refusal to pledge personal loyalty to President Trump. And two, the fact that the investigation into the possible collusion with russia was not only still going, it was accelerating. And now we have some more information about the first part of that conversation. The first part of the reason. That we reported and also the new york times, Michael Schmidt reported, which is, comey was call eed by the president to co to the white house to have dinner. He went. This is shortly after President Trump took office. At that dinner, President Trump specifically asked comey to pledge his loyalty to him. Comey, according to this account, said that he couldnt do that. He could pledge that he could always be honest with the president , but that he couldnt pledge loyalty to him, and just as an aside, fbi agents pledged their loyalty to the u. S. Constitution, not to any individual, obviously, as john adams noted in the massachusetts constitution, that were a government of laws, not of men. In any case, President Trump said to comey, well, could you pledge me your honest loyalty . And the source said, he doesnt know what that means. Its almost oxymoronic, because you can pledge your honesty or you can pledge your loyalty, but sometimes theyre going to come at odds. But in any case, director comey did agree to that, i guess assuming that it was an emphasis on the honest part of it. But that in the views of this individual close to the former fbi director is one of the reasons why he was fired. And then, we have President Trumps comments to lester holt yesterday saying that russia was foremost on his mind when he made the decision to fire comey. And its just a remarkable turn of events and it is stunning how quiet republicans on capitol hill are being today, given what the president has admitted to and why he has admitted to having fired the fbi director. Talking to ana navarro a little bit, and shes basically saying the republicans, to last your last point, its time to wake up. Wake up. Last question for you, tapper. And that is, just stepping back for a second amid this crazy week in washington, thats been. I mean, the utter chaos in the white house and just how it seems no one can save the president from himself. Well, sure they can. Because if republican lawmakers dont do anything about this, you know, i dont see any repercussions, necessarily. I mean, the reason we have a legislative branch is to serve, among other reasons, is to serve as a check on the executive branch and the same thing with the judicial branch. But if one of those branches declines to do its job, i dont know that President Trump being his own worst enemy, necessarily, means anything, certainly there have been republicans trying to talk to President Trump since he took office about better ways to govern and better ways to manage his white house. Certainly, there are people on capitol hill and in his own white house who want to focus on the legislative agenda, the reasons why people voted for President Trump. People didnt vote we havent been talking about that because of what hes right, no, i get it. I get it. Im just saying, people didnt vote for President Trump so that he would fire the fbi director who was leading a probe into his campaign. They voted for him for a number of issues. And he cant do it, because of all of this other stuff and its going to get in the way of his agenda. But if republicans on capitol hill dont stand up for whats right, of course he could get away with whatever he does. And leaving for this overseas trip and what oufl this swirling around him and taking it with him. Jake tapper, i appreciate you, as always, coming on. Well see you on the lead at the top of the hours. Thank you very, very much. A lot to talk over with my next couple of guests. Ive got bill gavin, who was the assistant director of the fbis new york office during the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. And also with us, trump biographer, michael dantonio, he wrote the truth about trump, and sabrina siddiqui, reporter for the guardian. Wonderful to see all of you. So much to get to. Lets start with this press briefing and the trump tweet this morning and the threat, lets just call it what it was, to james comey and hearing sean spicer saying that it wasnt a threat, and you know, refused to didnt answer the question when he was asked three or four different times on, you know, tapes or recording devices in the oval office. Your thoughts . My thought is this you cant interpret that tweet and its not just a statement that he made in private, its a tweet that he made a little bit more than a veiled threat, he better make sure that theres no tapes. This is just another example of opening your mouth to change feet sometimes. And he put sean spicer in a horrible position, once again, as the press secretary, where sean keeps answering, we have nothing further to say to that. Now, already, weve come out and say it was ant threat. Therell be another change in the story. I just wish we had some president ial actions in this with mr. Trump. Its been horrible, so far. Okay, so you all watching havent seen the tweet, this is one of the tweets from this morning from the president. James comey better hope that there are no tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. Sabrina, what do you think . Well, look, i think that its remarkable that when asked repeatedly if the president is secretly taping conversations in the oval office, sean spicer wouldnt respond and he was very sensitive to this idea that the press is parsing these briefings and the words that he projects from that podium, but this is not the First White House press shop that is contending with a president who keeps a busy schedule. Whats unusual about sean spicers role is that he has to answer for a president who frequently traffics in conspiracy theories and often shows a disregard for the separation of powers. And so theyre trying to answer for his behavior towards james comey, and there really is no way for them to try and ratio l rationalize or justify trumps tweets or his flip of the script yesterday, when he conceded that, yes, russia was, in fact, part of his decision making, when it came to firing james comey. And in doing so, they just invite more scrutiny on themselves and raise more questions than they answer. Michael, to you. And i know we have you on and well get to how you likened the president in the cnn independent piece to a 6yearold child. But first, this nugget from tapper and his reporting of this dinner between comey and the president , where, again, this is a he said he said thing. Where comey says, the president asked him to, you know, this loyalty pledge, right . You know trump, the man. What do you make of that . Im sure he did ask him to be loyal. Despite what the white house is saying . Absolutely. The thing for President Trump going back 40 years is personal loyalty. This idea of the constitution or the separation of powers or pledging loyalty to a system of laws, not men. Thats foreign to him. What matters to him is that he has the power. Youre supposed to be loyal to him, and if youre not, hell fire you. And no one should be surprised by this. This is the person hes always been. Did businessman trump do this . Absolutely, he did. He demanded loyalty. He actually actually asking it of people . Oh, yes. And he hired people who didnt have options. This was an interesting thing about donald trump, is that he sought very brought people, but who would not have had access to this kind of income, this kind of power, this kind of glamour, but for donald trump. So then they become very attached to him. You know, you see this in this fellow keith shiller, whos his his body guy. His body guy. He attached hills to trump around 1990. And has been there ever since, like a barnacle on the hull of a boat. You know, he just you called him a human blanket or a baby blanket. Yes, hes a security blanket for donald trump. You saw him push jorge ramos out of a press conference, physically looming over him and shoving him out of the room. This is the kind of thing trump expects of the people who work for him. Its why the white house is struggling. They dont know theyre to adhere to real protocol and common sense and reality as everyone sees it or to follow the president s lead. Bill thank you. Bill, back to you on, we have this other piece of information. This is from pamela brown in her reporting about how shes talked to this source close to comey and back on this tape, or were there tapes of this conversation and the threat to the president. This source says that comey, quote, is not worried about any tapes and the source says, quote, it is absolutely untrue that jim asked to have dinner or that he asked to have his job, which is what the president told nbc. That is a complete fabrication. So this is essentially a comey source saying the president is lying. Its, again, we get into a he said she said situation here. This need to stop. Im sure the president has gathered around him some people who have some good common sense and offered him some advice. The problem is, the advice isnt being accepted to and adhered to. With this latest tweet that he did, theres no way around this thing. Im sure that was when the people in the white house heard that, that was an oh, my god, he didnt say that, moment. It happens frequently. And its got to stop, if he wants credibility among the citizens of the United States of america. Well, how about, file this under oh, my god, did he tweet this, moment. Sabrina, this was for you. He tweeted, as a very active president with lots of things happening, it is not possible for my surrogates to stand at the podium with perfect accuracy. Sean spicer was basically bemoaning the coverage from the press this week, and meantime, the press is bemoaning the white house for the shifting stories. And why dont the american, you know, why doesnt the American Public deserve accuracy from surrogates of the president . Well, its theres just no sense in saying that they should be held to the same standard as previous administrations when it comes to telling the truth while theyre standing by that podium. Sean spicer and Sarah Huckabee sanders are speaking on behalf of the most powerful office in the nation and their words matter. And i think that on the one hand, sean spicer was complaining that the Media Coverage is unfair, and then, moments later, he made a false claim that the allegations of collusion between trump and russia had been debunked. When, in fact, what James Clapper had really said is he had he did not know if there was collusion and thats the same thing that congressional leaders who are investigating this russia issue have said, as well, that at the time, they had not seen any evidence of collusion. But the question is still openended. You cant, on the one hand, say that youre being held to some sort of unfair standard, and then moments later, continue and misstate the information that you have. And willingly do so to try to protect the narrative that the white house is trying to put out there. Last question to you, michael. That being your piece. You point out that some of the words that the president has used, crying Chuck Schumer or crying like a baby blumenthal and others. Well, its shocking that we have a president who speaks this way, who thinks this way. If you go back to lester holts interview with the president , the moment he said that comey asked to have dinner with him, i knew the opposite was true. How . Because hes setting up an expectation. Because the next thing he said was that comey wanted to keep his job. This is inconsistent with james comeys lifelong reputation for integrity and independence. So, what he does is he tries to create reality, use name calling in the way that a 6yearold boy would do. Youre a baby because youre disagreeing with me. Or youre immature. Or its almost crazy talk, to listen to the president step by step set out claims that cant be supported. Then when they get caught, like on this issue of is there a tape or not . There is evidence of whether theres a tape or not. You cant wiggle out of this. Well, now to members of congress, two democratic members of congress have already written a letter, saying, if there are tapes, we want to see them or hear them. Michael deantonio, thank you very much. And bill and sabrina, thank you both of you, as well. Thank you. Another big question here. Did the president obstruct justice with regard to his actions involving comey . Former Nixon White House council, john dean, joins me live, and well ask him about this threat over tapes. Also, once again, President Trump praises his fired National Security adviser. Why he says he waited 18 days to fire him. And you know who this is. Its not exactly the guy we saw today behind the podium. Surprising new yorkers today, this is just outside of cnn. Whats going on with Melissa Mccarthy and saturday night live this weekend. Well be right back. Im dr. Kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. Energy lives here. I was always tpeople dont stare anymore. I never joined in. That wasnt fair to any of us. I was covered. I tried lots of things over the years. But i didnt give up. I kept on fighting. I found something that worked. That still works. Now . See me. See me. I found clear skin that lasts. 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First the president changed his story about why he fired fbi director, james comey, and now according to his twitter page, he is threatening him. During an angry tweet storm this morning, the president tweeted this, and i quote, james comey better hope there are no, quote, tapes of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press. Now, the white house, as we just heard in the briefing a bit ago says that was not a threat. But in the backdrop of all of this are questions about the president s intent and whether an admission during an nbc interview constitutes an obstruction of justice. And, in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a madeup story. Its an excuse by the dls femoc for having lost an election that they should have won. And the reason they should have won it is, the Electoral College is almost impossible for a republican to win, very hard, because you start off at such a disadvantage. So everyone was thinking, they should have won the election. This was an excuse for having lost an election. Joining me now, former White House Council to president nixon, john dean, welcome. Thank you. You are someone who knows a thing or two about tapes in the white house. What do you make of this threat . In this day and age, im sure its not a tape. Im sure hes referring to a listening device. Today it would be digital and not a magnetic tape. So just to eliminate that technical problem. But did he record or did someone record . No idea. But today it would be very easy. He could have a smartphone in his pocket and probably pick up a room conversation with some ease. So i dont think comey would do that. Thats certainly contrary to all the fbi protocols. So thats just not going to happen. But what i suspect comey did is report it to his colleagues what had happened and made a record of what had happened during the conversation. Well, apparently, i should just put a footnote on that, that comey is, according to his source and cnn reporting is, quote, not worried about any tapes and if there is a tape, theres nothing, he says, hays worried about. Let me ask you about this. Weve just received word in the last hour that these two members of congress, democrats, have sent a letter to the white house asking for any tapes or digital youre right, im sure thats what it is, between President Trump and comey. And in the letter they write under this section of u. S. Code, it is a crime to intimidate or threaten any potential witness with the attempt to influence, delay, or prevent their official testimony. Do you see anything funny about this . Well, i think thats a reach at this point. You do . When comey was there, he certainly wasnt a witness. Hes made himself hes become a witness, if this comes into some sort of impeachment proceeding or even later, a legal proceeding, when trump isnt president. It could well be that hes going to be a key witness. And but i dont think there was any effort to intimidate him as a witness, with the threat of the tape or in taping him. Is what about just in this threat, period. And again, the white house saying it wasnt a threat, but well, its selfevident. You be the judge on that one. Is there any sort of legal ramification whatsoever for this type of threat in 140 characters or less . Not really. Its a pretty loose ly phrased statement. So i think hes more playing to the media and trying to brace this is a standard as your other guest said earlier, its kind of its just the way he acts. Its the way he tries to anticipate things, tries to cut people off before they take action and here, its a threat to, oh, ive got a record of this, so dont say anything if youre not sure. What about any sort of obstruction of justice, based upon anything that weve known thats come into the public . Well, what is a potential obstruction of justice is his mental state when he fired comey. And what he told lester holt. That is right on the border line. And stits certainly in the are of an endeavor. And that statute, if you get into the statute, even an endeavor to if you dont accomplish an obstruction, youre in trouble. Okay. John dean, thank you so much. Thank you, brooke. Next, more on our breaking news. The president threatening james comey with possible take place of their conversations, as we were just discussing. Plus, he just gave another interview. Hear what he says about sean spicers future. We asked people to write down the things they love to do most on these balloons. Travel with my daughter. Roller derby. Now give up half of em. Do i have to . This is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. But, if we start saving even just 1 more of our annual income. We could keep doing all the things we love. Prudential. Bring your challenges. The shlike a bald penguin. How do i look . [ laughing ] show me the Billboard Music awards. Show me top artist. Show me the top hot 100 artist. They give awards for being hot and 100 years old . Well take 2 [ laughing ] xfinity x1 gives you exclusive access to the best of the Billboard Music awards just by using your voice. The Billboard Music awards. Sunday, may 21st eight seven central only on abc. Are you moving so quickly th that your Communications Department cannot keep up with you . Yes, thats true. So what do we do about that . We dont have press conferences you dont mean that . Just dont have them. Unless i have them every two weeks and i do it myself. We dont have them. I think its a good idea. First of all, you have a level of hostility thats incredible. And its very unfair. Sarah huckabee is a lovely young woman. I you know sean spicer. Hes a wonderful human being. Hes a nice man. Is he your press secretary and today and tomorrow . Will he be tomorrow . Hes doing a good job, but he gets beat up. Will he be there tomorrow . Well, hes been there from the beginning. That was President Trump moments ago on fox news addressing the contradicting statements on the reasons for firing fbi director james comey and on the Current Press secretary, sean spicer. So i get to talk to David Axelrod today. Hes our cnn senior political commentator in chicago. Nice to see you, sir. Before we get into how are you doing, brooke . Anything going on . Oh, slow news day. Nothing, really. Before we get to your ax files special tomorrow night. On this conversation about tapes and the questions to sean spicer today, are there any tapes . You know, conversation recorded between docomey and the preside, we know that any kind of secret recordings in any white house has been offlimits since the nixon administration. So when you listen to sean spicers response, the nonresponse wh nonresponse, what did you think . Well, i think that he, as he often is, was in a really difficult spot. And was instructed not to say anything beyond what was in the tweet. The interesting thing was him trying to convince people it wasnt a threat. It was just helpful advice to a departing employee, you know . A little legal advice for mr. Comey. Obviously, it was a threat. And you know, the problem is not with the spokespeople, but theyre in a constant game of twister, trying to contort themselves to explain the latest tweet or comment. He sent the Vice President out there to tell a story and cut him off at the knees the next day himself. So if donald trump has communications issues, he should start by looking in the mirror. Threw the whole white house under the bus, as Chris Cillizza wrote so well on cnn. Com. Lets talk about you and your axe files special. You ask california governor enginejerry brown about the sto the week, of the year, the james comey firing. Heres part of your conversation. I do think that comeys public statements about the emails and hillary was a very bad and unprofessional and he never even acknowledged it. So i think comey has real serious problems. What about the timing of it . But thats the other point, that he asked for resources to investigate the russia trump connection. So, yeah, that smells. No question. And where do you think this all goes now . Is this going to hang over trump . Well, its hanging over washington, thats all they can think about. I would like to see the senate restore some of its earlier luster, thinking of the great giants in the senate in the past, and with truly bipartisan, democrat and republican. Let them investigate. I think that maybe you bring the house in, too. But watergate was a lot the investigation there was driven by the house of representatives and by the committees. So i think theyre capable if they can get off this circus of partisanship and polarization, which they seem addicted to, tragically. Circus of partisanship, david. Is it a circus of partisanship, or just the circus . Well, i think theres an element of both. But, obviously, youve seen for the most part, there have been some outliers, but youve seen a lot of people kind of retreating the partisan sidelines. And you know, the most notable was mitch mcconnell, who basically stonewalled on the issue of whether there should be a special council or a special committee to look into this, as some democrats and a few republicans, john mccain, has suggested. And he was very stalwart in opposition to that. And i suspect he will be, unless the politics changes. But ill tell you an interesting thing about jerry brown. Theres a guy who was once about the youngest governor in america, 1970s. Hes now the oldest governor in america. And his father was dwmpb govern california. And hes got an enormous sweep of history in his lifetime. It was interesting to hear him talk about how things have changed. And hes clearly a little wistful about days gone by, when republicans and democrats could work together. And he prides himself on that in california. Mmhmm. David axelrod, thank you so much. Well be watching your full interview with governor brown. The axe files, a cnn special, airing tomorrow night, 9 00 p. M. Eastern. We continue with the firing of james comey, apparently not a massive topic of conversation right now at a big meeting of Republican Leaders in california. What one member of their own party says they need to wake up. She joins me next. Travel with m. Roller derby. Now give up half of em. Do i have to . This is a tough financial choice we could face when we retire. But, if we start saving even just 1 more of our annual income. We could keep doing all the things we love. Prudential. Bring your challenges. At Holiday Inn Express, we dont just get you ready, we get you the readiest. To prove it, we took dennis, whos here for a convention and put him in a nationally televised dance competition. cheering ha Holiday Inn Express, be the readiest. Just into cnn, a massive coordinated cyber attack has targeted at least 74 countries in the last ten hours. This attack has instantly installed ransomware on computers across the globe. The program is demanding users pay hundreds of dollars in order to regain control of their computers. Of those affected, at least 16 National Health services in the united kingdom. One expert tells cnn the rans ransomware could likely spread to u. S. Firms, as well. As we get more information, well keep you posted. Meantime, obstruction of justice. A coverup. Just as the president is facing extremely serious allegations on why he fired fbi director james comey, many in his own party are shrugging it off. Hundreds of Republican National Committee Members are gathering for their Spring Meeting this week, where they say james comeys firing has barely been mentioned. So is the issue being avoided . Is this apathy . Should more be discussed . With me now, cnn political commentators, ana navarro and paris dennard. So ana navarro, first you. You know, youre calling out your party, right now, youre saying to republicans, wake up mmhmm. Look, i think republicans have been asleep. I think they need to remember, especially elected republicans, that their loyalty is to this country. Its to america. Its to the constitution. And im very troubled by the escalation of Donald Trumps behavior of President Trumps tweets. You know, look, if you want to go out there and billion an enabler and defend him when hes lying about inaugural crowds, when hes tweeting against rosie odonnell, when hes tweeting against meryl streep or against nordstroms. If you want to go defend him when hes lying about 3 to 5 million undocumented having voted. Okay, go ahead and do that. But this transcends that. This is so much more serious. In a matter of one week, in a matter of four days, on one day, he was tweeting out an intimidation of sally yates, the day she was to testify in front of the senate. And today he sent out a veiled threat, another intimidation of former fbi director, james comey. We owe it to the professionals at the fbi, at the Intelligence Community to stand up and not allow this. Republicans cannot continue lacking the other way and enabling this. History is going to judge them oh, so harshly, oh, so harshly if more comes out. We need to stand up and defend the search for the truth above everything else. We cannot we cannot hand in a Blind Loyalty to a president , even if its the president of our own party. That is not the duty of elected republicans. Paris, as a republican and someone whos been very loyal stot president , how would you respond . Well, i think ana is 100 wrong. And as someone who has worked at the Republican National committee with the members of the 168, who are our Party Faithful, listen, i spoke to one of the members, National Committee women who is there right now, and she said, we are unanimously excited, optimistic, and focused, celebrating our victories and focused on 2018, because we understand full force that the history of firstterm, midterm elections are for president s. And so they are laying the groundwork and the foundation and the infrastructure to continue to be successful, just as we were in 2016. So i would say to ana, no, were not asleep, were wide awake. Thats why we won this election. Thats how we won the presidency, the house, and the senate. We are awake and we are excited, motivated, and we believe wholeheartedly and members of the 168 believe that this president acted responsibly in the removal of comey, because he lost faith in his ability to lead the fbi. He lost faith in him. A lot of americans lost faith in him. Many senators did. And even there are democrats who lost faith in james in mr. Comeys ability to lead the fbi. So were not members of the 168 are not asleep. Theyre awake, they understand whats going on, but they dont care about the punditry of ana navarro. They care about the people who sent them there. The Party Faithful will come out to vote in 2018 to give us more electoral victories for the gop. Ana, do you want to respond to that . No, i really dont. You know, first of all, i dont respond to personal attacks from colleagues. Second of all there was no personal attack. You know, what am i that was not a personal attack. Okay, youve said your piece. Its now my time. What am i going to say to somebody who refuses to hear whats going on in our country . Do you think that Donald Trumps Approval Ratings are at 36 because people are not bothered by this . Do you think the credibility of the president is where it is and of the presidency because people are not bothered by this . Have you stepped outside to have the beltway . Im not in washington, im in miami, florida, im traveling around the country and i can tell you people are very worried and so Many Americans feel that this government is in crisis. That this president thinks he is above the law. And republicans need to send a clear message that that is not the case. We need to push for the search for the truth. We need to push for a resolution for this, for the good of the country. We cant continue living with ybw, you know, in this society, where half the people, if not more, think this is an illegitimate president who got to power through collusion with the russians. If thats not true, lets get it out. And you know, lets all be able to have some faith stored ed ie presidency of the United States. Got to go, with ana and paris. Thank you both very much for that. Not on the same page, but thats why we wanted to hear from both of you. Coming up next, Melissa Mccarthy taking sean spicer out for a ride today on this moving podium outside the cnn offices here in new york. A comedy writer joins me live to tell me whats in store this weekend on snl. Im dr. Kelsey mcneely and some day you might be calling me an energy farmer. Energy lives here. The shlike a bald penguin. How do i look . [ laughing ] show me the Billboard Music awards. Show me top artist. Show me the top hot 100 artist. They give awards for being hot and 100 years old . Well take 2 [ laughing ] xfinity x1 gives you exclusive access to the best of the Billboard Music awards just by using your voice. The Billboard Music awards. Sunday, may 21st eight seven central only on abc. Press Secretary Sean Spicer back on the job as was his alter ego, actress Melissa Mccarthy who is hosting saturday night live. Check this out. This is melissa outside of our cnn headquarters here in new york just this morning. Motorized podium. You know, youve seen the sketches. They are upping it and then some apparently for this upcoming saturday night. I have the peendabody awardwing comedian. Apparently shes just been spotted thanks to our contact over at 30 rock. Shes the best. On the motorized podium. Shes the best. Gave me an idea to incorporate. Ill start a fleet of sean spicer pedi cabs and get a whole bunch of lookalikes and the slogan will be well get you there on time and angry. Like a game of frogger, jumping out from bushes. Its the best. Just writes itself. We dont know what they have up their sleeves for this saturday. She eats one hosted, but its incredible to me how ill never forget where i was when i first saw her, you know, as sean spitzer and do you sometimes look at sean spicer and think Melissa Mccart . Melissa mccarthy does a better sean spicer than sean spicer. And we were looking at Bernie Sanders and how well larry david pulled that off. Exactly. This is the video that snl has released, the hair and makeup. I love her dimples. The forehead is exaggerated. Not even a forehead. Last question, sean spicer was back at the podium. On Navy Reservist duty. Sarah Huckabee Sanders has stood in his place. Not giving enough material to latenight writers. Opposite end of the spectrum, that southern charm. Yeah. You know, when i hearings i want to have a mint julep and bet on horse racing. You know, that saying, its not what you say but how you say it. She could say anything and it could be fine. Like i do declare were at war with north korea. All right. Lets play croquet. Its all good. Listen, the bushes thing is the best, that he was in the bushes. Is he a press secretary or a cub scout leader . What are we doing . This is the only press conference in the history of the white house where reporters walked away with poison ivy. Well have a press conference. You bring the bug spray and ill bring the smores. Jay is laughing at you. Thats good. We got a laugh. Always a pleasure. Thank you so very much. Yeah. Coming up next, nba hall of famer and personal friend Charles Barkley talked to me about his new series on race in america, and we also talked about President Trump and why he says he respects the president but says, my goodness, every day is a wild ride. Also this. A moment to honor two cnn heros who joined forces to help women in greek refugee camps. Their project uses the life vests that refugees wore on their journey. 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A lot of people were hurt from burning down the cvs, but it brought all of middle eastia down on pennsylvania avenue. Sometimes you have to take that narrative by the neck. Im saying it was negative that it had to burn down. That served no purpose whatsover how, if it didnt burn down. It brought the media, thats all it did because everybody that was affected by that was the people you said that you felt bad for. So i talked to Charles Reece entally. We talked a lot about those conversations he had. Talked a lot about undocumented immigrants, muslims. It was fascinating, his take, and the people he talked, to so were going to post that. Mean phil, of course, i also asked him about the president. I didnt vote for the president , but i respect him for being the president. I respect the office, but this notion that everybody voted for donald trump is a racist or they are all full of evil, they have the right, thats what makes this country great. We have to demand more of our leaders. How would you grade President Trump these first couple of months in office . I think the thing that bothers me the most is just waking up every day and the democrats and republicans are arguing, like little kids. I mean, that drives me crazy. They disagree on every subject. The only people who really get hurt is the actual people. Were a little over 100 days in, and its like turmoil every single day. I dont remember with any president that i can remember, like i say im living in the moment, but i dont remember something happening every single day like it does now. Well make sure to post entire conversation i had with Charles Barkley. Well put it on cnn. Com, my twitter brookecnn. His show american race tonight on tnt at 9 00 eastern. Thanks for being with me. The lead starts right now. Thanks, brooke. Is President Trump recording conversations in his white house . The lead starts right now. President trump now seeming to threaten the man he just fired as fbi director telling james comey not to talk to the press and alluding to tapes of their conversations. The former director of National Intelligence shutting down the trump talking point. What James Clapper said about the trump team and possible collusion with russia. Plus, more russian laughter. The day after the kremlin troll the the white house was video of the foreign minister giggling about the comey firing, a putin Spokesman Says america is

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