Malaysia said this flaperon came from the plane because a serial number matched that of mh370. They also say the paint work was a direct match as well. This is the details were learning just today. This is invigorating the hunt. This is animation and this may be the best tool yet. They are using wind and waves and ocean currents and what it shows, all of the particles in the middle of your screen this shows where it may have originated from. Is malaysia telling the world, you know the where and when these possible seat cushions and windows were found . Reporter no they are not. They are remaining tightlipped about that. Thats the question that we all asked immediately when they told cnn first thing this morning, that they had found this debris confirming that they believe, and ill quote, that debris like a window pane and seat cushions have been found on reunion island. Its being tested in the south of france and of course since the flaperon was found, all eyes have been on that island. We have teams there searching to see if they could find more debris. We have been told today that nothing significant was found but this is a new revelation from the ministry of transport in malaysia telling us this information now. Of course they are trying to remain as transparent as possible and thats why every piece of information that they get they give to us. This is from an aircraft, according to them. They are not saying that its linked to mh370. To get that link the debris would have to be flown to france to continue to be tested in the laboratory. But these are all small pieces of this puzzle that is the mystery of the disappearance of flight mh370. These are internal parts of the plane and the flaperon is the ex tesh external. Saima, thank you so much. I now am joined by richard quest. Weve now learned its the paint, the serial number from this piece. All right. Im confused because the Prime Minister of malaysia you and i were there yesterday at this time. We watched the whole thing live. He used the word exclusively. And then they said there were parts recognizable to the plane. Its the serial number the paint and a maintenance seal. That was all here. Yes. If there are all these things on here why cant the prosecutor also use the word conclusive . Thats my problem here. Okay. The Prime Minister says conclusive. The prosecutor and we know what they are talking about. The paint and maintenance seal. Of course the question is did the maintenance seal relate to the mh370 . What about these other pieces washing ashore . When you look at the investigation, ive talked to the pm before not always showing competence through this whole thing. Yeah. How trusting should the families be that what they are saying about the cushions belongs to the plane . They cant take it further than and im surprised what he said what he said. Im surprised he didnt simply say there has been further debris which needs to be identified. But we are sinking, once again, into this marass that we thought we had avoided. Last year it was easy to be charitable or i found it easy to be charitable and now im finding it less easy to be. How on earth with this flaperon we have such difficulties and now people are saying is it a seat cushion . Is it not a seat cushion . The australians are involved the malaysians are involved americans are involved. No wonder the families are wondering what on earth are we to believe . They want 100 certainty and thus farther not getting it. Richard quest, thank you so much. Now to this backlash erupting over the president s harsh words over the deal with iran. I want you to listen to this harsh warning. Objection to this deal leaves any u. S. Administration that is absolutely committed to preventing iran from getting a Nuclear Weapon with one option. Another war in the middle east. I say this not to be provocative. I am stating a fact. Without this deal iran will be in a position however tough our rhetoric may be to steadily advance its capabilities. The president s tough talk came at a speech at an american university. Mitch mcconnell calling the comments today absurd. I want to bring in josh rogin. Great to see you brooke. The president is essentially threatening there will be a war if they dont agree to this deal. Im wondering, is that what you see as well . I think there are two things going on here. One, the president is raising the stakes against his critics. Hes going after them directly in a sort of characteristic way of his recent speeches hes being unabashed about his opinions and trying to paint his critics as war mongers and nobody wants to be painted as war ponders. What im saying that the majority of people with criticisms to the deal do not believe that they are promoting a path that leads us towards war. The second thing youre seeing is the president is pretty confident that he will be able to defend the deal. Hes feeling the fact that it will be very hard for congress to seal the deal and hes confident in being aggressive and even provocative even though he says hes not doing that. In the end, it puts those people in the middle mostly democrats, mostly democrats who are really taking a hard deal at this deal in an impossible position. They are the ones being squeezed. The republicans are going to be against it. The administration is going to be for it. The democrats want to make a decision without all of this rhetoric or being put to the test of being a war monger or not. Weve heard from this democratic pollster who is a consultant who is saying the more people learning about the deal the more they are likely to disapprove of it. You talk about the people making up their minds who are in the middle. What are you hearing . Its so interesting because behind the scenes its putting pressure on democrats to not announce their decisions. They believe over the next coming weeks, when they have a chance to make their arguments, that democrats will be persuaded to agree to the deal. On the other hand as we learn more about these side deals, as we get more testimony and facts, the democrats will be convinced to vote against the deal. They both cant be right. Well find out what democrats are going to say. They are keeping their powder dry. The details are going to have to come out sooner or later. Josh rogin, thank you so much. Anytime. Just ahead, bill cosby has refused to respond to rape allegations but one judge is now forcing him to do so. Hear how this ruling can change all of the cases piling up against him. Also another attack inside a Movie Theater. What needs to change . Should theaters malls, should soft targets have more security . And the republican candidates reveal their predebate rituals. 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Donald trump is going to be arriving here in about an hour. Hes the guy that everyone has their eye on. Like you said the big question is whether he will go on the attack tonight. Other campaigns say they dont want to engage with him. The other camp to watch is jeb bush bush. He has not been on the debate stage since 2002. Hes going to be coming into this debate stage a little nervous and they are expecting to get a little incoming fire. Other candidates think it will be easier to take on jeb bush than donald trump. So the bush force is preparing for that. As for scott walker the goal for him is to get out of this without committing big flubs on the stage. I think everyone is trying to get in the right head space to be ready for their big moment. Meantime the democrats announcing their debate schedules today. What do we know . Reporter the democrats announced their roster of debates. They are going to do six of them. As you can imagine, there are already people not very happy about it. Martin omalley in particular has been complaining that there are not enough debates and isnt very happy with the schedule. A number of these debates come after voting in iowa and doesnt think that will give all of the candidates an equal chance to get their messages out. Were seeing a backlash against the dnc for their schedule. Thank you very much. Staying on debate here someone who just four years ago was standing where those candidates will be standing tonight, i have governor tim pawlenty. Good to be with you, brooke. We have this from our friend at the independent journal review, take a look. Before a debate i say a little prayer and drink a diet snapple iced tea. I like to be relaxed so i play solitaire. I listen to motown to mellow me out. Governor what were you doing right around this time a couple years ago . Before the debate i would either go bowling or go out for a run or both. Each candidate has a find a way to get ready for what is a very big event. Bowling. Interesting. In 2011 you had what some people called a campaign ending moment. Sorry to bring this back up but i have a point to this. You chose not to attack romney after health care and going after obama instead. Here it was. Your rival is standing right there. If it was president obama is the person i quoted in saying he looked to massachusetts for designing his program. Hes the one who said its a blueprint and he merged the two programs so using the term obomney care. Thinking in half a second do you wish you would have handled it differently . Yeah. I think john king just wanted me to say obomney care but he and i got up in an exchange. The real problem after that was, we had to continue. Almost everybody else had a chance to get their month in the sun. We were out of money at that point. Out of money combined with that moment was a difficult chapter in our campaign for sure. The back and forth was john king and experiencing standing there and knowing what you know now, what advice would you give these candidates tonight . Well each candidate has a different strategy. Other than donald trump, the basic question for everybody else is this. How do you wrestle a tornado and the tornado is in the form of donald trump. So for some people that means try to make sure a tornado passes and have running room in the future and other people may say, look maybe i should take them on as a strategy. Well see how that unfolds. If you take on donald trump, that could boomerranang. Donald trump is the central figure in this debate, obviously. Lets take the tornado, your word a step further. They are all mindful of the candidate not there, Hillary Clinton, but donald trump front and Center Understanding everybodys strategy is different, what would you do . Take him on . For somebody with not a lot of money and not in the race much longer if they dont catch fire taking on donald trump may be a good play. Thats going to get the attention and look tough and strong and i think that would be a good strategy for some candidates. Keep in mind hes a very seasoned counterattacker and it could boomerang. We found out there was a phone call between donald trump and bill clinton in may after we officially knew Hillary Clinton was in the race and he had to know that donald trump was going to get in for 2016. We know they go way back and that donald trump has donated money to the clinton foundation. Im curious, what do you think about that phone call . I think, who cares . Really who cares . Yeah. Old news . I think with bill clinton its a little demerit in the eyes of the conservative so it will be fodder at the margins but its not going to fundamentally affect the race or the discussion. As for donald trump and the stuff that hes done thats a little odd, thats very minor. Okay. Final question and ill put you on the spot and i am curious, if you were asked to be Vice President , looking at all of those candidates the top ten on the primetime stage, who would you say yes to . Well i think the leading candidates in the race in my view before the donald trump phenomena were Scott Walker Marco Rubio and jeb bush. Okay. Pick one, sir. I dont think id want to pick one today. Its a Long Campaign and theres time for that. Dont underestimate Donald Trumps abilities here. If he gets a little more measured it could be a lot more serious and competitive than anybody ever imagined. Hang on. Is what youre not saying is you would ponder the donald trump being on that ticket . In terms of im not going to be a vp obviously. Im talking about were still playing the hypothetical game. The likely nominees are going to be Jeb Bush Mario Rubio and scott walker and i couldntdonald trump. Coming up its a timeless tradition but is it a safe one . After Movie Theater attacks in aurora colorado lafayette, louisiana, two weeks ago and now nashville, tennessee. Well discuss softer targets ahead. Also a Huge Development involving bill cosby and the allegations of Sexual Assault at the playboy mansion from decades ago. A judge now forcing bill cosby to testify under oath. What could he say . Thats coming up. Yes, we are twins. When i went on to ancestry i just put in the name of my parents and my grandparents. I was getting all these leaves and i was going back generation after generation. You start to see documents and you see signatures of people that youve never met. I mean, you dont know these people, but you feel like you do. You get connected to them. I wish that i could get into a time machine and go back 100 years, 200 years and just meet these people. Being on ancestry just made me feel like i belonged somewhere. Discover your story. 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The bad news is once Something Like that goes down most people are like sheep being led to the slaughter. They will go to the trouble, not away from that and thats the problem. Fortunately, hopefully, most of us dont have experience sitting in a theater when somebody has a hatchet or a gun. At the same time i love going to the movies. To think that we have to or the mall or sporting events to walk through a metal detector its tough. For many years i was a bod gee guard. Its called Situational Awareness and critical thinking. When i go to a Movie Theater, guess what god forbid someone yells fire or you hear gunshots. There are two exits to the left or right of the screen. Every once in a while ill go to those exits to see where it leads. You really take the time to figure out and walk to see where the exit is and where it would lead to. Brooke i know where there are three exits right here. If something went down ill grab you by the wrist and were out of dodge. I work here and im thinking where would i get out. You set it and forget it have it in your mind and go on about your day. Its not about being paranoid. Its about being prepared. Nor should you be. I dont want to be paranoid. For you to stop going to the movies then they accomplish their job. Do not worry. Just be more aware. Okay. Bill stanton, thank you. 104. Coming up guest host of the view, Kelly Osbourne getting blasted online for an offensive comment she made about hispanics. Thats ahead. But next a judge has ordered bill cosby to answer questions under oath in a lawsuit that alleges that bill cosby sexually assaulted a playboy bunny at the mansion years ago. Thank you. Ladies your belts all snugged up . Why do we have to buckle up . The pick up stinks with diesel. [ding] youve got to be kidding oh please ah this is the end oh my god [brakes screech] we need resuscitation. Mouthtomouth resuscitation. Hurry up [laughing] mum. Just tap it. I did Yo Gabba Gabba we are just past the bottom of the hour. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. A court order and mounting pressure getting bill cosby to respond to a lawsuit. A judge has just ruled that the legendary comedian will be deposed in two months. Her suit says in 1974 cosby knew she was just 15 15 when he molested her at the playboy mansion. What this means, cosby will be under oath first. We had a battle over who was going to go first and thats why i went to court last week. Mr. Cosby must submit to his deposition first on october 9th and after will be our clients deposition. In general, we dont want a defendant to have an opportunity to try to tailor his testimony or be after the plaintiffs testimony, whatever shes testified to. With me now, defense attorney and former prosecutor randy zellen. Randy, what are the possibilities . What could one hear from bill cosby because were especially mindful because of all of these stories as gel because that judge in pennsylvania released the deposition just last month from 2005 when we heard all about the quaaludes and wanting to seduce women. What you could expect to hear from mr. Cosby, i would imagine, is going to be a lot of i dont know and a lot more of i dont remember. From miss allred. Remember you have two fabulous lawyers, marty singer representing cosby. And gloria allred. They dont need to watch us to get a tip. The point is youll be getting the i dont remembers because everybody thinks what good is a i dont remember answer . Number one, if youre lying and you do remember thats perjury. How can they tell . How can they prove it . In a deposition youre not looking to impress anyone with your questions on crossexamination. I dont remember would there be any documents to help you refresh your recollection . You ask about surrounding circumstances, other things in that time that would establish, well you remember this. So you can call the bluff . Exactly. Youre blocking any escape exits for mr. Cosby where he suddenly will remember something favorable to i am had. You want that witness to talk because youre looking to generate whats called prior inconsistencies at the trial and you dont want any surprises. Is it possible that he takes it beyond the i dont remember and pleading the fifth, absolutely zip . The problem about that is you can only take five when first of all, you have a genuine apprehension that your answer could subject you to a criminal prosecution. In all likelihood here, the statutes of limitations have long since expired. If he were to take that position by the way, at a deposition you must answer the question. Youre turn cannot direct you not to ina the question unless it goes to a privilege. Got it. If he were objecting based it on fifth amendment grounds, miss allred would get an order and say, try again. Can we totally switch gears and talk about what happened in dallas because its kind of fun. President george w. Bush was juror number 45 at the dallas courthouse yesterday. Theres all kinds of pictures. He seemed like an amazing sport taking pictures with people such as this one. Can you imagine . He wasnt selected. Shock face. I cant imagine the president of the United States ever serving on a jury but what about celebrities . How often does that really happen where they are selected . Being a president is not a basis for disqualification. Its not . Maybe a sitting president but not one who is no longer sitting. But the point is this is so cool. It is so cool. It should send a message to everyone the jury service is important and if he can do it you should be doing it. That to me is the biggest message of all. But just remember its all about, can you be fair . Yes. Can you be impartial . So he goes and im sure lawyers are going to be intimidated but the truth of the matter is if you get him in the panel, jury selection is all about, can i get this juror or all of these jurors to dig me . Because if they dig me theyll dig my client. And if i feel that celebrity is going to like my case i want him because hes going to run, shes going to run that jury room. Right. I wish i had been selected last year. I think it would be fascinating to sit on a jury. Randy zellen, thank you. Thank you. Next, Kelly Osbourne is under fire about this offensive comment she made about his span hispanics. Her cohosts are willing to forgive and forget must many are saying, no, no. Stay right here. We danced in a german dance group. I wore lederhosen. When i first got on ancestry i was really surprised that i wasnt finding all of these germans in my tree. I decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. 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Kelly osbourne of course, from the Osborne Family and Fashion Police is getting blasted for comments she made on tuesday. She was trying to call out donald trump onduring a discussion on tuesday but said this. If you kick every latino out of this country, who is going to be cleaning your toilet donald trump, in a sense that no. Theres more jobs to be. In a way, they always latinos are not the only people i didnt mean it like that. Come on. I would never mean it like that. All right. So she apologized on facebook. This is part of what she said. I always take responsibility for my actions. In this particular case i will take responsibility for my poor choice of words but will not apologize for being a racist as i am not. She went on, i learned a very valuable lesson. It is my hope that this situation will open up a conversation about immigration and the Latin Community as a whole. Rachel has filled in 25 times or more on the view and shes a spokesman for a nonprofit that advocates for the Economic Empowerment of hispanics. Also here in new york, shawn regis. Rachel when you heard what Kelly Osbourne said what was your first reaction . Well, the first reaction was obviously she stepped in it and quickly realized it and to her advantage, she was quickly forgiven by Rosie Odonnell because they share very similar rosie perez . Im not sure if that kind of forgiveness would have been extended to a conservative who had said that. Whats interesting, it brings up she says she wants to bring up other topics from her faux pas and she referred to people who work for Donald Trumps organization and all over the country as toilet cleaners. I think its very degrading. They are working hard to give their children a better life. If you look what is happening tonight at the Republican Debate we have two hispanics that are going to be taking the stage as well as an africanamerican on the gop side. One of those, marco rubio, is the product of a housekeeper who worked for a hotel. So i think that this is a conversation about the american dream. We should not degrade hired work and definitely not refer to those people as toilet cleaners or also forget about the other jobs that latinos have in our country. I want to jump back for a reaction from rosie perez which is a separate conversation in itself. Kelly osbournes role in sort of leading the charge against Fashion Police cohost julianna ransick a couple of months ago, what happened . Exactly. Months ago her exless cohost made a comments about dreadlocks in her hair and said she looked like she had just smoked weed. People said youre a racist how dare you say that and she said i dont condone racism and dont want to be part of this show anymore. She threw guiliana under the bus. Shes leaving now. To see Kelly Osbourne say Something Like this and be taken to task you have to ask, did you have it coming . Okay. I guess im out of time. Im sure well have another discussion at some point. Thank you both so much. Quick break and well be right back. Wish your skin could bounce back like it used to . New neutrogena hydro boost water gel. With hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. For supple, hydrated skin. Hydro boost. From neutrogena. Bennys the oldest dog in the shelter. He needed help all day so i adopted him. When my back pain flared up, we both felt it. I tried tylenol but it was 6 pills a day. With aleve its just two pills, all day. Now im back aleve. All day strong. Big day . Ah, the usual. Moved some new cars. Hauled a bunch of steel. Kept the supermarket shelves stocked. Made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. Whats up for the next shift . Ah, nothing much. 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One artist stepped into the music scene long before she topped the charts in the early 70s. Carol king. In order to tell her story, i went backstage on broadway to talk to the star of one of my favorite musicals here in new york and its clear that carole kings music resonates for decades. Reporter songwriter carole king has been hitting all the right notes. You make me feel making her mark in the 70s with tapestry the 1972 album of the year and ultimately one of the bestselling albums of all time. But becoming carole king on broadway is no easy task. I went backstage who kennedy who transforms into her almost nightly. Evolution of carole king in that decade is what . Well so much of it is about her jourpney from being the 16yearold who is incredibly brave and fearless like marching into the office he and saying i have a song if you want to listen to me. Reporter uhhuh. And being a girl and saying i dont care im just as good of a songwriter as anybody else so im going to show it to them. Reporter but Carole King Penned hit after hit in the 1960s with then husband jerry goftin. What i learned in that era, how much she wrote, how much of the music that we know that in our dna, not a lot of people realize when they walk in they will be singing every word. She is truly prolific. Just the sheer amount of number one hits that she wrote is just spectacular. Reporter do you have a favorite . Oh my gosh. Reporter i know. Thats like asking to pick a favorite child. But i feel that youve got a friend to me is one of my favorite songs of all time and i think because of the generosity behind it and how she gave that to james taylor and let him have that as his song and ill be there yes i will be there youve got a friend theres a moment in the show which is my favorite which is will you still love me tomorrow. Reporter beautiful. Tonight youre mine completely you give your love so sweetly tonight love is in your eyes but will you love me tomorrow they wrote so many of these great love songs and so many great hits together and had so much love between them. Yeah you know things happened and they had their troubles but at the end of it all, you know the love stayed between them. Reporter so what mark did carole king leave on the decade remembered for it is musics . A little bit of the 70s, you and i lived it. Yes. And not just carol kings music but how do you think that music influences bands today . Theres so much perfected in the studio. Back in the 70s you would sit with guitars and a piano. Its raw. You do your take and thats the end of it. Back in tapestry time, it was very much a we a collaborative music scene and carole talks about this in her book in terms of jamming with people. Theres always a time to stop and listen and then theres a time to play. Aint it good to know youve got a friend reporter and no pressure about shalina and Jesse Mueller who won the tony have met the woman whose life they portray on stage. Tell me about the moment when you first met carole king. She met with me after the show sat me down and showed me how she plays her stuff. And so to sit next to her and watch her play just incredible. I mean i have no words. It was amazing. It was amazing. I feel the earth move i will shatter glass. Can you give me one line of something . Looking out on the morning rainy used to feel uninspired you make me feel like a natural woman oh so good. Make sure you watch backtoback episodes of the cnns series the seventies tonight at 9 00. Rolling on hour two here youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. In just two hours, outcome the candidates. Seven of them. They are starting with the happy hour debate with the seven lowest polling candidates and then on to the main event, the top ten. Donald trump and the nine other guys who will be trying to get out of trump shadow and into the spotlight hes been so enjoying. Tonight voters will be watching for substantial and style and missed opportunities. One man watching it all, steve depree. Thank you for being with me. Yes. Here we go. Look at the numbers. Ten candidates two hours, 60 seconds to answer 30 seconds to respond if called out. Just given all of those constraints, realistically, do you expect any substance to come out of tonights debate . Well this is the first of 9 to 12 debates so i think its really an introduction to america for a lot of the candidates. So the goal is not to have a really bad moment and hope to make a good impression. I think the toughest part will be moderating the debates and keeping the flow of the conversation going and keeping candidates to the timed limits. I know you point out there are many more debates but this is the first, which makes it a biggy in and of itself. Yes. How concerned are you that the candidates will be going after each other or attacking someone not on stage, Hillary Clinton, instead of answering questions and deliver specifics. I hear you laugh but its an honest question. Its a risk. No its a real risk. I think the moderators will try and get them to answer the questions but i wouldnt be a bit surprised if some of our candidates decided to mix it up. We have 17 candidates. You have to start to draw distinctions. I think you have to do it earlier in this race because there are so many candidates. It should be exciting. You say 17 with a smile, steve. Well when we first made a list and started this committee two years ago, we had 23 people on the list and we really thought that 8 or 9 would end up filing. But two our surprise there are 17 and, who knows, there may be more. Final question back in your state, in new hampshire, we know donald trump was a noshow at the forum on monday night. Im sure youve been talking to voters. Do they care that he didnt appear on that stage or will that mean that that will be more eyes on him tonight . Well, i dont think who are offended that he didnt show up. I dont think people took much umbrage to it. Donald trump is a legitimate candidate and anybody who thinks not is badly underestimating him. He will do well. It will be interesting to see the play between mr. Trump and the other candidates. Steve deprey there in cleveland, with only a couple hours to go. Here with some of the predebate rituals. Before a debate, i say a little silent prayer and drink a diet snapple. I like to be relaxed so i play solitaire. I take my phone and listen to motown to mellow me out. I go for a run. Its a great way to relax. Youre not taking phone calls, youre just out running and that clears your mind. Before the debate i normally call my mom to get advice. Hey, mom i cant say that on television. I got a video from my very trusted political advisers. Let me check on that. Hundreds of pieces of paper because they have all of the advice that people have given me about what to say during the debate and light them on fire. Im going to be me. So whatever coming out, its me. So snapple and motown aside here ought to be inside the last minute preps. Does this one even really matter . Lets talk about it with the director of debate welcome to both of you. Todd youre up first here as we call you our resident debate coach. You wrote this piece for cnn. Com. I want to begin with the happy hour debate so to speak. In a sense you could say they have no speaking time no donald trump to deal with the advantage of being perceived as an underdog. What ive read from you, youre calling this a loser scenario. Well it is sort of a loser scenario in a couple of ways. The first is, youve got a new one, brooke. Youve called it the happy hour debate. That doesnt seem president ial. One of the things i talked about in my piece is that their language matters and were calling this the jv debate the secondtier debate were calling it other sort of derogatory names and its not good to be associated with that if you want to be president and the history of debates in the country, if youre left off the main event, you have no chance of becoming president. It was Lindsey Graham who i grabbed that from. Thats what he called it on twitter. I agree with you, language absolutely matters. Mercedes Carly Fiorina, im wondering when we talk about the big debate the top ten, why isnt there a woman up there . I would have loved to have seen Carly Fiorina in the top ten. I think shes an incredible voice for conservative women in particular and shes also made a case against what would be the political establishment on the republican side. Again, this is a first debate. I think what youre going to see, even in the happy hour debate you might be able to see some new pieces coming out, some headlines from the candidates especially from an individual like carly. We cant brush up the 5 00 debate. We have so many debates to look forward to in the upcoming months its just the beginning. It is just the beginning. Americans are getting really introduced to a lot of these folks this evening and todd to you, when you look at the sheer time constraints of answering responses, how much is going to be substance. With ten people in the debate you need to make a statement about the debate that people remember. Four years ago, herman cain gained in the poll because he had the catchy 999. It wasnt necessarily getting him getting out zingers against the frontrunners, he set himself apart from the other candidates. Thats what they need to do in the main event. I hate to disagree with your other guests but if youre not in the main debate i dont think the campaign is just beginning, i think the campaign is just ending. Mercedes to you. Thats a great point about the introductions. Recently we watched the Hillary Clinton jeb bush back and forth. Shes honing in on him, so quick to react to what he said tuesday afternoon. Im curious, just your perspective on why she hasnt really taken on trump. Do you think perhaps its just a sign that shes not taking him seriously . Shes probably wise not to take on trump because god only knows he would take on hillary. Look shes being aggressive. She knows that jeb bush could be that frontrunner that she is focusing on jeb bush again. Shes not necessarily ignoring trump or Governor Scott walker or even senator marco rubio. But at this point, governor jeb bush he has the money and most of the endorsements. Of course he still needs to convince the conservative base of the Republican Party to support him. So its still a long haul but i think shes going to go and punch him where she can early on to see if she can make inroads there. Shes probably wise to stay away from donald trump because i think donald trump would quickly attack. Todd ive spoke to a lot of supporters of donald trump and one reason why they like him is because hes not a washington insider. Im wondering how he strad geldles that but also acts president ial on the stage this evening. You know what it always plays to be the outsider early on in a debate. I think somebody like trump is going to be fine for a long time. If he says the word loser in the debate thats a shock for sure. That goes over well in the beginning, in the early season. But later on when we widddecrease the field, hell be fine. One thing to remember anybody who attacks trump takes time away from thems receives because one of the things that happens in these debates, when you attack someone, they get to answer you. I think its unwise to attack trump, not because he will attack you back but because it gives more time to the frontrunner and thats something you dont want to do. That gave people a lot of great ideas. Todd graham, mercedes thank you so much to both of you. Next well talk about what they found from this plane. New debris now, a window and seat cushion have washed up in the same area where a possible piece of mh370 was recently discovered. Could hightech mapping of the ocean currents reveal where this debris originated . Thats next. Also, the dash cam video in the case of a Police Officer charged for killing an unarmed driver. He just wanted help after a car accident. Could it help or hurt the prosecutions case . Well show you the video and discuss that. Also another company increasing its paid leave for new parents. Stay here. Imagine she wont have to remember passwords. Or obsess about security. Shell log in with her smile. Hell have his very own personal assistant. 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It certainly is possible. 8 million tons of debris has washed ashore. Theres a lot of debris out there beyond the wreckage potentially from mh370. Each debris item based on where it sits on the surface or below the surface, is vulnerable to different energies from the wind the waves and the current. So if it happened to be sitting at the surface at the water, its possible. The particles sort of move around and this chart shows the debris in western and eastern directions. Why do you think we havent seen debris then wash up on the shores of australia . Yeah its hard to say. But certainly the current operate in a fairly distant way based on where the plane may have hit the water may very well indicate where the debris quickly drifted. Again, much of the debris from the plane likely sank because it is very dense. However, these lighterweight objects that may be in the windage may have moved northward and caught very quickly into the westerly moving currents. On the notion that Something Else that has perplexed me we dont know if a large chunk of this airplane is still sort of together and on the bottom of the ocean, we dont know how many pieces it could be. But im wondering and who knows when they will find all of that right, but how long could that remain under water and sustain the salt water damage in especially thinking about the black boxes . Its difficult to say but debris persists for very long periods of time in the ocean. Upwards of decades and particularly when they sink to the deep ocean in some of the areas where the search is its thousands and thousands of feet deep you have very very cold waters and so they can be preserved for long periods of time. That doesnt jeopardize the integrity of the plane if in fact its largely in tact. Nick mallos thank you so much. Thank you. 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We have seen how crucial video really can be in killings by police. In charlotte now North Carolina its the focus on this Police Officer on trial for involuntary manslaughter. For the first time dashcam video was shown from that night just moments before ferrel was shot and killed. He had crashed his car so he walked to a nearby neighborhood and knocked on the door of a home wanted help. The woman who answered was frightened and called 911 thinking thinking ferrel was trying to break in. Thats what police were told when they got to the scene and the dashcams were rolling. We are going to show this to you. Just a warning, youre about to hear this young man lose his life. 12 shots were fired and ten of them hit the 24yearold man. Get on the ground get on the ground get on the ground [ gunfire ] lets talk about this with cnn legal analyst sunny hostin and joey jackson. Weve seen the video. We were anticipating the video. I want to walk through how either side could see it differently beginning with you, the prosecution. The family said it would show the officer raising his arms saying wait before he shot. Thats not on the video. Maybe it happened off video. But i will tell you, what struck me and were talking a lot about the victims actions as opposed to the officers actions. Lets talk about both. Thats where the focus need to be because the officer is the professional and trained to respond in a crisis. And tasers were drawn when he was approaching and perhaps that is why the prosecution is saying he didnt run towards them, he was running away from the case tasers and thats the prosecutions theory. But i think its shocking that an officer would resort to deadly force. That doesnt make sense to me. I suspect it doesnt make sense to the prosecutors trying this case. This officer was responding to a call from a woman who sounded terrified on the phone. We played the 911 call the other day, thinking it was a potentially violent intruder. What strikes you about this . Theres a few things that are going to happen. Each side is going to use this video to bolster the argument that they are making. For the prosecution, hes clearly not armed at all. You see both of his arms and theres no weapon whatsoever. Number two, if you do the countdown, its three, max four seconds between the time he says to stop and shots are fired. So how reasonable could that be . Number three the sheer quantity of shots. There are 12 shots fired. The defense point is there is not compliance. He was not complying to stop number one, he was running towards us, number three, i had each side in that courtroom slow the tape up. Walk the witnesses through the tape. On crossexamination, the defense pointed out those two points noncompliant imminent fear prosecution saying unreasonableness of your action. You clearly didnt need to shoot. I think what is fascinating, though youre talking about the reasonableness of his actions. The officer is the trained professional not this young man in a car accident. Other officers similarly trained, similarly situated did not shoot him ten times. They did not act that way. I think that is a very, very strong part of this for the prosecution. Critical. Because thats the legal standard. Because im right. You are right. And im going to tell you why. The Supreme Court has said that you measure these things by what an objective officer would do a reasonable officer in that officers position. You have three officers there, two are not shooting and i think the prosecution is going to i want to show you something from today. He did what he could to show that other officer who responded who did not use this gun. To your point. Watch this. When you ran around to the end of the defendants car and saw observed the defendant shooting him, you never pulled your firearm, correct . Correct. And when he ran past you, you call what you told what you were going to do . Yes, sir. What was that . Possibly put him in a sleeper hold. A sleeper hold like a chokehold. To your point, not pulling a weapon. Looking potentially, as equally as important, how the other officers responded. This is something i talk about all the time. I talk about officers being trained to deescalate. Deadly force is your last option. When youre talking about a case where three other officers are experiencing the same thing in realtime rather than pull their weapon and shoot 12 times, these other officers were looking at the scale of escalation and they were saying i maybe would have put him in a chokehold which we can talk about that with the eric garner case. Im not sure thats the appropriate method but he chose not to act as this officer did and i think thats going to be so critical to the prosecution and perhaps to the jury. Absolutely. But very important to note and this is the Supreme Court says officers have seconds to act. Thats also why it hasnt been indicted in 30 years, absent potentially that video there would have been an indictment here and weve spoken about the first grand jury not even indicted. Times are changing. They certainly are. And the communities are demanding accountability. And i think thats what is taking place here. Sunny hostin and we have video surveillance. Dashcam, et cetera. Talk about it forever. Thank you both. Next is giving new parents more time off the start of a new trend . Sunny says thumbs up as a mom. Netflix did it and another company is following their path. How much time they are getting and will people really take it . Well discuss. Also bounty hunters searching for a fugitive banging on the door of the police chief. Whoops. How that could have happened. Straight ahead. Im caridee. Ive had moderate to Severe Plaque Psoriasis most of my life. But that hasnt stopped me from modeling. My doctor told me about stelara® it helps keep my skin clearer. With only 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses. Stelara® helps me be in season. Stelara® may lower your ability to fight infections and increase your risk of infections. Some serious infections require hospitalization. Before starting stelara® your doctor should test for tuberculosis. Stelara® may increase your risk of cancer. Always tell your doctor if you have any sign of infection have had cancer, or if you develop any new skin growths. Do not take stelara® if you are allergic to stelara® or any of its ingredients. Alert your doctor of new or worsening problems including headaches, seizures, confusion and vision problems. These may be signs of a rare potentially fatal brain condition. Serious allergic reactions can occur. Tell your doctor if you or anyone in your house needs or has recently received a vaccine. 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Will people really say, okay give me the year i want off . I believe if you build it it will come when it comes to paternity and maternity leave. There is an issue because people have been saying that a lot of the Tech Companies have been offering unlimited vacation and people arent taking a lot of vacation time. They are confused about what unlimited means. They wonder if they take six weeks vacation, are they sending a bad message to the boss. Theres a concern there. But i believe for this one, women and men and i think this is very different in the sense that i have my own personal experience cht i was a federal prosecutor working for the federal government. I had a problem pregnancy, a torn placenta. I had to borrow leave. Other prosecutors had to donate time for me so i could spend time off. Thats insane. And i had to cobble together medical leave, shortterm disability and all of this and i only got three months off. I can tell you that with my daughter and i was at a private firm as a partner, i got less time. You cant get that time back. You cant get the bonding time back. Youre a nursing mother. You are still irked over this. Im still upset about it because i really feel in terms of having a healthy relationship with your child and a healthy relationship with yourself. Right. The mothers guilt that comes from having to leave your infant home with another caregiver or a Daycare Center when you would love to be there is its a feeling unlike anything else. And i dont know what it is about the Tech Companies, the googles and facebook and ive been to these workplaces where you roll in its sort of show up wherever you want but they get their work done. They get their work done. They believe in if it you have good work life balance, youre going to come to the table and innovate and have better ideas. I feel like these companies are setting the stage. Hello, rest of corporate america. And hello america. Were way behind European Countries in this. I think its disgusting quite frankly, that in our country today women who make up so much of the workforce have to sacrifice their bonding experience with their child to be a productive person in our society. I think its disgusting and i still think what the federal government did to me when i was a young thriving prosecutor is despicable. Its despicable. There is an issue about women. Companies want to attract women. Other Companies Want to as well. There you go. This is the way to do it. Get them back in the workforce when they want to be there anyway. You mentioned briefly, culturally in europe australia or wherever else they take vacation and its like hey, i didnt take my vacation time. Its perceived differently. Because we think as women well be penlized and put on the thats not just a women and male thing. I think its changing. I think these Tech Companies will be innovating and coming up with something great, you need time away from your laptop. Sunny and kelly, thank you. We have to stop and pause and go to nashville. There was a shooting at the Movie Theater about this time yesterday. She was told at that time at 6 00 monday evening, that montano was not there and that the mission had lost contact with him in may. On wednesday, yesterday, montano was seen in the area of the hickory 8 Movie Theater on foot. We have found no vehicle in that area linked to him nor is there any information that has come to the Police Departments attention that he was driving a vehicle yesterday or in the recent past. In fact montano does not have a tennessee drivers license. Our investigation shows that he arrived at the theater 20 to 25 minutes before the film began. He actually made a stop in the dollar store before walking over to the theater. He purchased a ticket to the mad max film requested a cup of water and went into the auditorium. In the minutes that followed there were two women also seated in the auditorium. According to those women, montano was staring them down. He was carrying a backpack duffle bag as well as a backpack. At one point, he stood up put the backpack on the duffle bag on went toward the women, suddenly put the bags down and sat back down. Ultimately he gets back up goes to the row where those two women are and abruptly and suddenly without any provocation, begins dousing them with chemical spray. The man seated with those women, who you all met yesterday, steven who spoke outside the theater, attempted to intervene on behalf of his family members. It was then that montano used his ax hatchet to cause a laceration to the mans shoulder. Those persons then fled the Movie Theater. Montano actually blocked one of the doors forcing those inside to go out the opposite door as they ran out. As you know officers were working at a crash nearby. The sergeant will talk about that in a moment. Individuals ran to those officers Police Officers rushed to the scene. Well talk about that in a moment as well. After officer fritzs encounter and he backed out, members of our s. W. A. T. Team entered the theater. At that point, the movie had been stopped by a member of the Police Department. The film had actually begun when officer frith was in the theater but the film had been stopped by a member of the Police Department. The theater at that point was dimly lit. The s. W. A. T. Officers responded that montano moved to a position of recover. They gave him repeated instructions to he directed himself and his arm up towards the officer prompting and the officer at that point believed montano had fired at him. The officers reported the s. W. A. T. Officers reported that montano was also hurling objects at them including canisters. Canisters of pepper spray. There was he was also carrying a canister of propane. Our close examination of that canister of propane shows that it was gashed probably by the ax hatchet. He also had lighter fluid and a lighter. Theres a great possibility that he intended on using this propane canister as some type of an explosive. However, when he gashed it with the cutting instrument with the hatchet, all of the propane escaped, essentially rendering that propane tank useless as far as an explosive is concerned. The s. W. A. T. Team members continued to try to bring him into custody. Again, he refused all of their commands. Ultimately he decided montano decided to go to the rear door of the theater. Before he actually exited he threw the gun he was carrying. It is possible that gunfire from s. W. A. T. Team members damaged that gun. As you have seen a photograph of it it looks like its a state of disrepair. Its possible that the gunfire from the s. W. A. T. Team members as they were shooting back at his arm that he kept reaching around toward them actually damaged the gun. When montano came out the theater, out the rear door he had a hand up underneath the duffle bag that he was wearing over his chest. The officers at that point perceived that he could have an explosive in that duffle bag. He was also carrying his hatchet or ax in the other hand. The officers deemed him to be an imminent threat and at that point opened fire on montano and he was fatally wounded. The investigation is continuing. The officers involved remain on routine administrative assignment as is practice in the department while the investigation continues. Throughout this matter we have talked to a number of people, a number of witnesses. We have yet to find anyone who had any dialogue with montano other than the simple purchase of the movie ticket and the request for a cup of water when he entered the theater. We have yet to find anyone who engaged him in any dialogue. His motive for all this is yet to be determined although we know and you all know he has mental issues he has been diagnosed as a schizophrenic in the past. My understanding he was committed at least three times and has a commit tal in another state. Hes been in a number of states in the eastern u. S. Over the past several years. At this point, im going to ask officer frith to explain to you his arrival, what he encountered and what he saw and what he did. I want to remind you that the Police Department is making an exception to our policy officers involved in Critical Incidents are not subjected to media interaction or involvement while the investigation is taking place. Were going to make an exception today but questions, if any, will be very limited. And the same goes for the sergeant. Officer frith . Good morning. Yesterday i was working in the area of the hickory mall around 1 13 i heard over the radio that there was an armed suspect in the theater. I was in close proximity with another officer and we immediately responded. Myself and three other officers responded. We all arrived pretty much at the exact same time. At that point, i noticed there was two citizens that were possibly wounded immediately called for an ambulance and knowing that again, the information that he would be a suspect was still inside immediately proceeded into the theater to actively engage him. We were directed to the theater where he was at which was theater four. I directed two officers to hold security on that on those two doors, and myself and another officer went upstairs into the projection booth where we tried to clear the theater as we could. We were unable to identify any civilians or shooter at that point. At that point we went back down to the entrance of the theater and just by pure chance i went to the left and immediately upon entering the theater, i was engaged with what i perceived to be small arms fire from the small caliber handgun to my right i heard three audible pops from what i can recall and i felt what felt like a discharge from a weapon the pressure hit me on the right side of my face. At that point, i turned to my right and immediately engaged the figure because, as mr. Aaron stated the movie was still playing and all i could see was the silhouette of the figure. I engaged that silhouette with my rifle and waited for the other officers to come and sergeant you can take it from there. I had worked the accident just down the street and had just left that scene when i heard officer arnett call for a man with a hatchet and a gun at the theater. So i started backing out and when i arrived in minutes, i encountered the two females and a male the same victim that officer frith had encountered on the front sidewalk. The females were covered in a dye that covered their shirt down. It was a redcolored dye and thats common in some sprays and the man told me he had been hit with a hatchet and i said where and he showed me the gash. From that point, within seconds of talking to them i heard a gunshot inside. I knew they were inside clearing the building. I moved to the front door and could see them up the hallway, moved into the front door and encountered officer frith with his patrol rifle covering a doorway and i had asked him what happened. He said the guy came to the door he pointed a pistol at me and pulled the trigger. He said i stepped back and shot. I asked officer frith, did you hit him . He said i dont know. I shot center mass. From that point, i directed them into a hallway other officers into a hallway of cover. Other officers were arriving. We didnt know whether there were still folks in other theaters so we took up positions to cover them both sides of the hallway. Tactically cleared that made it safe. Went into the theaters actually two people had come out and tried to get out. We held them in place until we made it safe. We pulled them out and took them out under the cover of officers. When we had that secured, we held what we had and checked on the eta from our srt or spot team. When s. W. A. T. Arrived, they immediately came in with their patrol rifles. The decision was made to enter the theater. This theater is set up i dont know if youve been giving maps but the theater is set up with doors that face each other and open out. A brief plan was made for use a flash bang. That was relayed to the officers in the hallway. When they opened that door the flash bang was deployed the s. W. A. T. Officers went in and got behind the rightmost outer seats, rear seats, and took up a position there. Within seconds, they encountered the subject at the far end of the theater and shots were fired. There were i would be afraid to say how many shots were fired, but severity. There were two other three s. W. A. T. Officers behind the seats and one standing. What we also encountered was tear gas that was so dense that he had put into the air, i guess, with the canisters, and it made it nearly impossible to breathe. When you encountered it, it was real heavy, too. When that happened i had taken up a position in the doorway where i could see what was going on with s. W. A. T. And could see the officers in the hallway. We radioed for a gas mask. All the patrol officers have gas masks. We didnt realize it was going to be that heavy. When they brought us masks, i saw the officers with masks, ran, got them brought them back to the s. W. A. T. Officers who were still in the theater engaged with the suspect. When i say engaged, there were multiple engagements there was one, stop see what hes doing, he shoots at them some more and he engages them again. I dont know you may be able to tell me how many times that occurred but gave the gas masks to the s. W. A. T. Members, they suited up with those and were better equipped then to deal with the problem from that point, that continued, i embarked out and watched the outer perimeter until the suspect exited out the door where the officers on the outside dealt with the threat. All right. Youve been listening to quite the details from they two nashville Police Officers what really unfolded this time yesterday, the active shoot speaker, in the national area. Its noteworthy they said essentially breaking protocol and talking to members of the media, talking to the public to explain what happened. I i think one of the takeaways one of the bags they were really worried because of the propane and gases there could have been a planned explosion. Again that suspect David Montano is dead. Next bounty hunters surround a home where they think a fugitive is hiding. When that door opens, its the police chief. That story is next. Instead of busting a criminal, a bouty hunter became one. This was the home of the police chief, the cell phone video shows the attempted raid at this Police Chiefs house. 11 bail bondsmen were part of the operation, and the owner is charged with trespassing and disorderly conduct. Phoenix investigators say the bondsmen were working off a tip from social media. With me now the Vice President of empire bail bonds here in new york. She has been in the bail bonds business since she was 17 so great to see you. Thank you so much for swinging by cnn. Thank you. When you first heard about this, and from what ive read when you first hear about this, all these people swarm into this home theres a big oops moment everybody realizes this is the police chief and they had to sort of pull the guy away and tell him where he was. Whats your reaction . My first reaction is these are cowboys from the wild wild west. We would never do that. We have licensed and bonded insured investigators who check every lead that we have. They wouldnt go off of some sort of social media and break into a house looking for, you know a criminal. Thats what i was left wondering. Apparently this tip came from social media. I imagine you get a lot of tips. How do you vet them . We investigate them do title searches, we investigator the person giving the tip s you know, we use all of on you resources. We have a lot of retired Police Officers working for us all our guys are bonded insured, so they have a lot of information that they have access to that the general public doesnt. What is a bail bondsman . And how do you make money . Basically bail is set by a judge. People cant afford to pay cash so theyll hire a bondsman pay us a premium, which is a nonrefundable fee, theyll pledge collateral. When the case is over the collateral runs. If the defendant does not show up in court Phoenix Police point out several of the people who tried to raid the home they had handguns and the job has serious responsibilities but when you look at the laws and the policies you say this would never happened here in new york you know but its different arizona compared to new york. Basically in arizona all you have to do is present year fingerprints to the state, and you become licensed. In new york city you have to have training you have to take classes, coalses, you have to be fingerprinted, background checks done on you. So its an expensive process to get a license in new york. Youve been doing this since you have been 17. Yes. What is it in the 30 seconds i have with you, what it is about it that this line of work you so enjoy . It basically is what we do as a family. Its all i know what ive ever done. Its a familyrun business weve been doing it for 25 years, and were the best at it. Were the elite. So you all would say you would never go off something off of social media. Absolutely, never. Wendy fordin thank you for swinging by. Thats does it for me here in new york im brooke baldwin. I hope you wake up nice and early. Ill be filling in tomorrow morning at 5 00 eastern, weep be postgaming tonights big debate in cleveland. In the meantime lets go to washington, d. C. The lead with jake tapper starts right now\s wondering if rubio or walker might have downloaded the past five seasons of the apresentition. Better known as debate prep. This is the lead. In the red corner donald trump, and then theres the other red corner where the other nine candidates are trying to steal the spot. Who will come out punting in tonights first Republican Debate . And who might leave stumbling . The National Lead a hero Police Officer speaking just moments ago about how he took down a transient who terrorized moviegoers, and why the suspects mother went to the police about him