That wont happen. Well get to that in a second. A couple of hours ago in the rose garden the president made it Crystal Clear that the Affordable Care act is here to stay. This is not an abstract thing anymore. This is not a set of political talking points. This is reality. We can see how it is working. This law is working exactly as its supposed to. In many ways this law is working better than its expected to. For all of the doomsday predictions, talk of death panels for all of the repeal attempts, this law is now helping tens of millions of americans. The fight is not over far from it. Nevertheless its a huge win for the president. Pamela brown is on the steps of the u. S. Supreme court. Lets begin with the fact that this is a 63 ruling. Break it down for me. Reporter and led by chief Justice Roberts. Once again hes stepping in and taking the lead and essentially saving obamacare. With this ruling today, millions of americans who are receiving subsidies to help them pay for their Health Insurance can continue to keep the subsidies. The Obama Administration has said that the subsidies are the linchpin to the law. Without them people would lose their Health Insurance and it would create a big mess. Challengers to this law say there are four words that make it clear that only people in states with staterun exchanges can have subsidies. Those four words, established by the state. Heres what chief Justice Roberts said in response to the challengers. He said petitioners arguments about the plain meaning of the act are strong. But while the meaning of the phrase an exchange established by the state under the act may seem plain when viewed in isolation such a reading turns out to be untenable in light of the statute as a whole. Chief Justice Scalia said look the law makes tax credits available everywhere. We should start calling this law scotuscare. There was a chuckle in the room at that moment. Chief Justice Roberts came out and said he was going to read the opinion. Of course a few years ago he stumped conservatives by upholding the constitutionality of the Affordable Care act. And death spirals that were going to get with the politics and personalities with all of the different justices its fascinating when a decision like this comes down. Let me move on because todays decision could have a major impact on the 2016 president ial election next november is potentially the next big chance voter also have to give their chance on the health care law. Lincoln chaffe is a president ial candidate and on the phone with me. Thank you for calling in. Good afternoon. Glad to join you. Could you put this day in perspective for all of us . When were looking back as far as president obamas legacy is concerned, would it be fair to say this is one of the biggest days of his presidency . I would say the last couple of days with the fair trade bill passing and now having the Supreme Court rule on the Affordable Care act, its a great day for the president. I support both the trade and Affordable Care act. In kentucky and rhode island they had the highest percentage of citizens sign up. So its good news. Great news for americans to have insurance in the future. Since its a great victory for your party, is that something that fellow democrats will use to run on . Absolutely. How . Because the republicans are trying to repeal the Affordable Care act. Its a great talking point to go out into various states in states and saying you dont have to worry about your primary care as you used to have to. Its a great bill and its going to be great for our american citizens. Were going dof ato have a Healthy America as a result. Governor chafee, you were a member of the Republican Party years ago and now because you know both parties so well in your opinion, in these last couple of years, what do you think has really changed in the conservative movement in this country . Well its known that the Republican Party drifted southward as fewer and fewer democrats were elected in the south. So priorities changed it and became more social issues and cared less about fiscal issues that used to be bedrock of the republican take care of the books. That was number one. The Republican Party fought back the deficits and tried to focus on social issues repealing the Affordable Care act. Americans want to have Health Insurance and were going to make this work. Even better. They would take a look at congress and well be talking to republicans coming up later. Their perspective and of course how this pertains to president ial politics. Governor chafee thank you for calling in. I appreciate it. And from a legal perspective, let me bring in a legal contributor, a law professor at the college of law, an expert on constitutional law and federal jurisdiction. Steven welcome. This is an exciting day for you. As i mentioned with pamela brown, its significant because this is time number two now that this bush appointee, this conservative chief justice, john roberts, has saved obamacare. Whats your reaction to that . Well i think thats right. Pam had it exactly right, that this was bit of a surprise. We knew all along, once the court decided to take this case that it was going to come down to chief roberts and Justice Kennedy. Now we both know that they are siding with the Obama Administration. This is a good sign that every once in a while a case comes along where they say, yes, this is loaded with political baggage but my job is to interpret the law and thats what im doing here. You mentioned Justice Kennedy. I want to get to him in a second. For those of you watching along, weve got sort of your justice baseball cards in the middle of the screen. Whats interesting to me here when you look back three years ago when the Supreme Court held up the constitutionality of the Affordable Care act, Justice Kennedy found it unconstitutional but today he agreed with the majority opinion. What happened . Three years ago there was a question about the scope of the federal governments power, visavis the state. Justice kennedy has been very concerned about the relationship between the federal government and the states. The question the Supreme Court answered this morning was not about federalism but what did those four words mean. The interpret teags over the four words . Thats right. From Justice Kennedys perspective, this was not the fraught stage driven case that led to dissent three years ago. Justice scalia pam mentioned the chuckle that we should be calling obamacare scotuscare. And one more quote that jumped out at me is where is the apple sauce quote . Otherwise the court says there would be no qualified individuals on federal exchanges contradicting for example the Provision Requiring every exchange to take the interests of qualified individuals into account when selecting health plans. Pure applesauce. Its clear to the average person and he says it is and nothing else matters. What we see in this opinion today is exactly the fight between textualists who say its more about text. You cannot retext divorce from context. And if you actually look at the Affordable Care act as a whole, its pretty clear that congress did not mean for this particular test to be read literally the way that justice skalycalia wants to read it. Do these justices get together and have lunch . Just curious . They are very cordial with each other. They are going to have to see each other for another 5, 10 15 years. But at the end of his dissent, Justice Scalia did not usually put in his respectful dissent. He just said i dissent. On monday we may see similar fireworks on both sides of the issue. That will be huge. Steve vladeck thank you. Bizarre developments in the prison escape in new york. The second prison worker this time a guard has been charged in this plot. Here what hear what hes accused of doing. Plus well speak live with a former female prison worker who not only helped an inmate escape but she spent days on the run with him. Shes injoing me live, next. When you got married . When you had kids . When did you first fight to be considered a family . When you fell in love . When you got married . When you had kids . Family isnt defined by who you love, but how. Tylenol®. You total your brand new car. Nobodys hurt,but there will still be pain. It comes when your Insurance Company says theyll only pay threequarters of what it takes to replace it. 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Matt turns 49 today while on the run from the police who say these men are likely armed and becoming increasingly desperate. This is a man right here. This is the latest puzzle piece in the prison break. He is gene palmer and was a guard at the prison for nearly 30 years. Hes facing court later this afternoon. Hes charged with giving the two convicts a screwdriver and needlenose pliers and supervising. Remember those hacksaw blades hidden in the hamburger meat he delivered them both to matt and sweat. His lawyer saying his client swindled into it by the prison seamstress Joyce Mitchell. He had no knowledge before that there were any tools inside beforehand. The only mistake he made was trusting Joyce Mitchell. He did not run it through the metal detector. Hes regretful and apologizes for that. But Miss Mitchell was just asthma nipas ma nip manipulating as the Prison Inmates were. My next guest knows what it is like to get swept up in a prison romance. She was working as a prison dog trainer when she fell in love with an inmate serving time for murder. Eventually she smuggled her lover out in a dog cage. In a dog cage. For 12 days they were hiding out before their run ended in a highspeed car chase here. She served two years behind bars and joins me now. Tobi welcome. Thank you. I know you want to talk to me today and help other women, potentially. You were married, a cancer survivors, wife mom of two. The question on everyones minds right now is how did you fall for a murderer . Well i think it has a lot to do with a particular place that i was at in my life. I had been a perfectionist, a hard worker, i tried to live up to the role that everybody else set for me. I had a pretty high bar that i set for myself too. At some point, all of that pressure and all of that responsibility you have a breaking point. And, unfortunately, i had a breaking point at a time when someone was able to capitalize on that. I think women have a choice. They can if they need to make a change in their life they can make a change from a position of strength and courage. They can evaluate their options. And do something to make their life better whether its to work on the problems they have or go in a different direction. But when you dont when you ignore your problems you become in a state of desperation where the silliest stupidest ideas seem like a great idea. Hindsight is 20 20. Youve been thinking about it now. But at the time how were you swept up . Did he seduce you . Were you a willing seducee . Well you know it was just refreshing to have somebody Pay Attention to you. And talk about how you were feeling and notice how you looked and for me that was a breath of fresh air. It was like pouring water on a dying plant and i soaked it up. Had i been a stronger person at that point in my life it would have washed right off and not had any effect. Did you know about his criminal past . I did, yes. Weve been hearing from this former inmate who told cnn that in this current situation, the seamstress that she and one of these murderers would escape off into closets and spend time in there doing, you know who knows what. I mean did you have opportunities to be with this man at this jail . No not really. I mean we spent a lot of time talking. He was one of my dog handlers and he was a person who escorted me around inside the prison while i was there so i would be safe from any other inmate that you know had ill intentions. So we spent quite a lot of time talking. But i hear you on the lack of opportunities but obviously you created an opportunity by helping him escape. How did he was this his idea and how did you pull this off . Well it was his idea and i by the time he mentioned it to me it was pretty well worked out. He pretty well had it worked out. I didnt this it was going to happen. It was kind of a fantasy game what if wouldnt this be cool . And i found myself taking one step and then another step and another step until it was that day and i was driving through the gate. And even at the time i still didnt think hed be in the van. I was surprised that the whole thing worked out. And what did it let me ask you, before you get ahead, when you were in this cabin, was there a sense of excitement that you were on the run or did you realize the second you did it that it was a bad move . Well there was a moment of panic that i had once we were outside the prison and i realized he was in the van because all these thoughts run through my mind and whats going to happen and, wow, im going to really be in trouble now. That was a moment of shock. But during the time that we were on the run, i tried not to think about it. So i which was common for me back then. I tried to put anything negative out of my mind and just pretend like anything was fine. So that was kind of par for the course. And then it wasnt fine and you all got caught. No. Right. Right. And i went to prison. And i can remember being right where joyce is now. You know being in jail for the first time and i had never even had a speeding ticket. Or even pulled over. Wow. And so i was just stunned at the place i found myself and i can remember telling my attorney when he asked for a continuance for two weeks, i can remember saying i cant stay in jail for two weeks. That cant happen. I cant do this. Well you know 2 1 2 years later, i walked out. So i learned you can do things that you dont think you can do. But the funny thing is that for me i used that time in prison to really learn who i was. And to learn who i wanted to be. And what i needed to do with my life to become a better person to become the person i knew i could be. And so and that hasnt stopped either for the last six years since ive been out of prison. I continually look for opportunities to grow to, help other people to be stronger in my falthith, in my emotions in my mental state. But im a much stronger person today for having gone to prison. Final question with this renewed sense of strength and this knowledge and sense of self, if you had Joyce Mitchell sitting right next to you, knowing what we think we know about her and how perhaps she was involved what would you say to her . I would say to her, dont listen to what the world is saying about you right now because nobody is saying anything very nice. But, instead, look at yourself and vision the person you want to be and spend all of your time and energy focusing on yourself. Because until you fix yourself and you become the strong person that youre capable of being, you arent of use of anyone else to your family and friends. You need to put that strength and character out to the rest of the world and its in her. I believe she can do it. And i would tell her, dont give up. Dont lose sight of that. Dont let this action become who you are for the rest of your life. Rise above it and be something else. Toby dorr what a story you have to tell. I admire your strength. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Bye. Next my next guest spent six years in a highsecurity prison. Why she says that escaping from miss prison was the worst mistake they could have ever made. Hear what will happen to them, next. Defiance is in our bones. New citracal pearls. Delicious berries and cream. Soft, chewable, calcium plus vitamin d. Only from citracal. [dad]i wear a dozen different hats doing small gigs,side gigs. Gig gigs. Quickbooks selfemployed helps me get ready for tax time. To separate expenses,i just swipe. Its one hat i dont mind wearing. [passenger] i work for me. And so does quickbooks. It estimates my taxes,so i know how much stays in my pocket. And thats how i own it. [announcer]stay in the flow with quickbooks selfemployed. Start your free,thirtyday trial today at joinselfemployeddotcom. 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As you can imagine, the mothers who were expecting to see their kids before they returned to school the next day were very upset that they couldnt see their children. The second escape was less problematic. It happened in early april. And it was resolved very quickly. Not that much more quickly but quickly so that not that many things got shot down. The lockdown did not last very long. The timing of it was bad for the inmates. What about this current situation, the two current escapees. They were on the honor block. They were able to cook in their own cells. Life didnt seem too terrible for two convicted killers. What will it be like when they return . Im also certain that matt and sweat will die in seg. Not to be too much of a pessimist on this but die in what . In seg. In segregation. From orange is the new black, we call it shoe. How will the inmates feel towards them now that the privileges would be revoked . Would that even matter that the folks would be in seg . I dont think anyone in the general population would have much access to them. Clinton is off lockdown status now but i dont know what the the conditions have changed, things are not allowed anymore, if theres Restricted Movement throughout the facility. Without knowing that i cant really say. All i know is they were locked down for a while. Usually it requires no inmate leaves their cell to eat, shower to do anything. So it can be a very uncomfortable time for those in the lockdown. Im sure they are angry at them. Whether they will have access to them to say anything or do anything to them probably not. But it will be this will be a highfiving atta boy many middle fingers if they were to see these inmates when they return. Yes . Yes. When the escapees return they went right into segregated status. No one had any access to them. Im sure if they had been out in general population there would have been incidents and accidents and other situations. Okay. My find question is in your piece you do show compassion for her, assuming that this is a big assumption that she was innocent in this whole crime. Knowing what we know and speaking with a fascinating conversation with a woman who is sort of lulled into this relationship with the killer behind bars and helped them escape you know how im having a hard time wrapping my head around how that even happens. You mean how an inmate convinces a staff to do something that extreme . Yes. It would have to be in a work situation inside a prison where someone would have enough time and enough face time with a staff member to convince them to do something this extreme. I had work assignments like every other inmate while i was at york ci and extended periods of time with my supervisors in close contact doing work but i never had that kind of extended period of time with a regular guard or any of the if anything like that is going to happen its probably going to happen in a private situation. 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He had a bond set of 25,000. He bonded out. We under he used a credit card. But that complaint, brooke of what youre saying is very rich in details because it really says that on four different occasions, not just once but he brought in a screw drier and pliers from the outside and brought it to an inmate between november 2014 and the day of escape. It also goes on to say that after the escape happened, that he took paintings from matt and sweat and burned them on his property and then also subsequently buried different paintings at a separate location close to his home. They executed a search warrant and found the tools at his home, brooke. Boris, i hear authorities are warning folks in the area really truly, these men may be armed. What kind of intelligence do they have to lead them to believe that . Brooke, authorities are, working under the assumption that these men are armed because of the seasonal hunting cabins in this area. There are so many cabins that they are not sure how many weapons might be around. They dont have an inventory. Its impossible to tell whether or not they are armed and that its possible that there were weapons inside that cabin that was broken into over the weekend. Brooke . Okay. Boris, thank you. Randy, you heard gene three felonies. Were talking about helping allegedly with the screwdriver and the paintings. Could his what will his defense attorney say . He didnt know what he was doing, he was just bringing this stuff in he didnt ask any questions . Heres the good news and bad news. The good news is the lawyer will walk in and say, as you just said my client had absolutely no idea there was anything inside of the meat zero. And theres no evidence to support that. Bad news is the prosecutor will Start Talking about what you did after. And so oftentimes its not what someone does that really screws them up no pun intended its what they do afterwards. Such as . Burning the proof. That detail. Oops. Its like the old bugs bunny thing. Do i put him in the oven . So the point is but heres the other thing that kind of blows my mind with this whole thing. The prosecutor will have a tool saying i didnt know what was inside of the briefcase, what was in the bag. What conscience avoidance is the prosecutors way of proving knowledge which is you close your eyes to the high probability that what is in that meat aint just meat. Why wouldnt you put it through the metal detector . So how did he this guard who took a polygraph test asked all of these tough questions, he passed it. They are not admissible. They are not real reliable. And this is one of the occasions where i will argue in favor of the prosecution and say, they are not real reliable. Okay. Randy zelin, thank you very much. Jean casarez, thank you. As we enter day 20 of the escaped killers, we talk to an escaped inmate who hid out in the woods of north carolina. Keep it here. 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According to sources, palmer loaned tools to the inmates while they were on catwalks behind their cells and since matt and sweat busted out, they have celebrated birthdays, in case you wanted to know david sweat turned 35 on june 14 and richard matt turned 49 today. Investigators say they are armed and dangerous and expect the manhunt to come to a violent end. I would point out to you, those of you not familiar with the area, the cabins in the area have shotguns and we believe that they are armed and they are extremely dangerous and cunning. Why wouldnt they try to arm themselves immediately upon escape . As police are searching for these two, cnns rosa flores looks back at eric rudolph and how he managed to evade capture for five years. Whoa. Reporter he killed three people, injured dozens and terrorized the nation in the 1990s. Eric rudolph, better known as the olympic park bomber made the fbis top ten wanted list during the summer olympics. And later bombing two abortion clinics and a lesbian bar. This man followed every step of the manhunt. He was smart. He was sly. Reporter rudolph a known loner and survivalist managed to avoid authorities for five years in the thick appalachian wilderness of north carolina. Early on Authorities Say he never stayed in a camp for too long always on the move and one step ahead of search teams. Everybody is watching their houses. Reporter nearby residents were on alert while hundreds of agents combed the woods and inside caves. But the trail ended cold year after year. Eric rudolph had home field advantage. He had been playing in these woods since he was a kid. He camped in them when he was a teenager. He knew shes woods inmately. Reporter rudolph was spotted in july 1998. He turned up at the home of an owner of a Health Food Store trying to buy food. The owner recognized him and refused. But when the owner returned two days later, he found that 75 pounds of food and his truck were missing. On the table, five 100 bills. Rudolph killed and ate turkeys, deer bears, salamanders and corn from a giant cornfield. To stay warm during bitter cold winters, he would break into cabins and bundle himself up in piles of leaves. Eric rudolph was living off the grid before he actually had to go off the grid. It was as if he had been preparing for this. Reporter despite years of searching for rudolph deep in the woods, he was finally arrested dumpster diving in the back of a Grocery Store looking for fruits and vegetables to freeze for the winter. It was luck. They had given up the hunt. They had given up the chase and he fell into their laps. Reporter after his arrest rudolph described his chase with police as a long camping trip that of the laedsted five years. The authorities hunting for richard matt and david sweat hopes it takes significantly less than half a decade to catch these two wanted fugitives. Rosa flores cnn new york. And here we go hour two. Youre watching cnn. Im brooke baldwin. The big story today, the United States Supreme Court has once again saved obamacare and gave president obama the biggest win of his presidency. Bottom line, this is what you need to take away today. In this 63 decision the court said that yes, federal tax credits are valid in states that dont offer their own health exchange. These are the states in the color of blue. Were talking about 6. 4 million americans. Without those credits, Health Insurance would have gotten a lot more expensive and even unaffordable for many of those people. Heres the president of the United States today reacting to the news. Today, after more than 50 votes in congress to repeal or weaken this law, after a president ial election based in part on preserving or repealing this law, after multiple challenges to this law before the Supreme Court, the Affordable Care act is here to stay. Well perhaps if it was here to
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