The secret service Julia Pearson faced a grilling. A fence jumper and white house shooter in november of 2011. Director pearson admitted to the House Oversight committee that a white house intruder with a knife, follow the red dots with me, got all the way to the east room where the president has given multiple major public statements. Pearson was also questioned about a story the Washington Post broke wide open this past sunday about that 2011 case. This man, Oscar Ortega Hernandez shot multiple times at the white house. And it took multiple days for the secret service to realize bullets had hit the white house where sasha, the president s youngest daughter was home. Is that true . Did a housekeeper find evidence of the shooting and your agents did not . The housekeeper was able to locate fragments of glass on the truman balcony, not an area frequented by security i didnt ask you about who was frequent. I asked you there was a spontaneous conclusion that shots were fired . There were officers who believed they smelled gun powder. There were your officers drew their weapons, director. Thats how seriously they took it. All right. So joining me now, joe johns. So, joe, tell me about these offduty, i dont know if they were agents or the officers protecting the actual building in front of what youre speaking. And this intruder. Right. Right. The information weve gotten from ted barrett, our senate producer on capitol hill. Hes been told by a member of congress who is actually in a closed door briefing that there were, in fact, two secret Service Agents who had just gone offduty. They were downstairs, heard a commotion, went upstairs and assisted other members of the secret service in making the arrest. So that fills in a little bit more of the picture than we had when we started this day, especially because the White House Briefing just ended here with josh earnest, the press secretary. And he was not able to confirm the fact that even one secret Service Agent offduty actually participated in the arrest. Just a little bit more information there on what happened when this fence jumper was taken into custody, brooke. So, here we have this week thanks to the Washington Post reporting on what happened in 2011 and those bullets hitting the white house. And this fence jumper who got all the way into the residence, how is the president responding to all of this and the testimony today . Well, i can tell you the white house is responding by staying. They do have full confidence in the secret service as well as full confidence in the director of the secret service even though she certainly took some hits in that hearing on capitol hill today. They do say they believe she took responsibility for what has happened. Shes promised it will not happen again. She did not give as much information as a lot of people would like to have. But her excuse was that there is an ongoing investigation. And after they find out the extent of the problem, theyll start working towards some solutions, brooke. All right. Joe johns, thank you, sir. Also following some breaking news in this battle against isis, potentially major move in this war. Weve asked the question before, the world has asked the question, the president of the United States has asked the question, where is turkey . Why hasnt turkey with isis poised right there at the southern border, why hasnt turkey a powerful member of nato really joined this fight . Well, within the past two hours, we have received word that the government is submitting a motion to parliament to quote, unquote, extend the scope of potential action against isis. Let me read those words for you again here. Turkeys government now looking to extend its scope of potential action against isis. Keep in mind, turkey has isis knocking at the door of that border town kobani and the towns res accidents say they fear for their lives at the prospect of isis breaking through. Also keep in mind that turkey joining the coalition could change the picture, as well, especially if turkey sends in ground troops. With me now from washington, former commander of combined forces command afghanistan. Phil, first to you. Just tell me about the situation right now in and around kobani. I understand its a fluid situation. And is whats happening now really forcing turkeys hand as far as involvement . Reporter well, the situation is still pretty dire, brooke. For the kurdish fighters that are still there trying to hold off against that isis attack. Weve seen some Coalition Air strikes in the region. And it would appear that it has made some difference to the dynamic in them and the momentum of the fighting on the ground, the kurdish fighters taking back some territory. But they still believe that unless more air strikes come and unless they do receive some assistance, then, yes, that city will eventually fall. And those that remain, well, their fate is anything but certain. What it will do, it will expand turkeys ability to take action in syria. It already has the ability to do so against Syrian Government forces. Theres already legislation authorizing that. What this will do, well update the situation on the ground to include isis, which is obviously vital, because as were talking about, isis now controls and is occupying a vast chunk of syrian territory right along the turkish border, brooke. Phil, stay with me, and let me bring you in. Heres the if. If turkey and as phil pointed out, they have the power to do so. If they decided to send in Ground Forces, how would that change the balance in this fight against isis . Well, it could have a huge effect on the fight. I think one of the things we dont appreciate sometimes is that air power in this particular region is going to have periodic effects. Its there two or three or four or six times a day. But Ground Forces are there all the time. And to push back isis, weve seen this in iraq, and going to see the same thing in syria, going to require ground troops. Capable forces on the ground, supported by air power to push them back. When i so let me talk to you, both of you, i was talking to bobby this past hour, he was telling me about reporting theres this isis advancement upon the shrine. It sits in syria and how this is significant. This could be an excuse or maybe even a justification for turks for Turkish Military to get involved, phil. What do you know about that . Yes, this is a turkish shrine in the middle of syria that is considered to be turkish territory guarded by turkish forces. And theres a feeling that isis is moving pretty close to it. And theres been a lot of talk in turkey about whether or not isis action against that particular shrine and the soldiers guarding it could be cause for war. To be honest here in turkey, there is the view among many that the cause for war is already pretty well established. But this is something that is potentially yet another hot spot for the turkish government to be dealing with shortly. We know, general, that turkey and the president have been criticized. They havent joined this coalition. Here you have this major nato nation. But here you have possibly sending in these troops to syria. You mentioned exactly what their role would be. But what about their role geographically as a nation as far as stemming the flow of foreign fighters . The turks are worried about that. The borders have been relatively porous to these foreign fighters leaving syria and potentially heading for western europe. Done a lot to control this particular threat. I think this is a whole different dimension, especially if they go into syria. Thats a huge threshold event if turkey decides to do that. Theres a big vote today, both to potentially authorize intervention but also to authorize the use of turkish bases, i believe, for other forces to attack isis and perhaps iraq and syria. Okay. Along the border there in turkey. I appreciate both of you very much. Coming up here on cnn, police say the suspect in Hannah Grahams disappearance in the university of virginia, her case may be linked to another area case. Plus, charges filed against the man accused of beheading his coworker and the District Attorney discusses whether he will seek the Death Penalty. Were learning much more about what the suspect is saying during the actual attack. Nancy grace weighs in on the case next. If you dont think beat con mewhen you think aarp, you dont know aarp. 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Prosecutors in oklahoma say they will probably pursue the Death Penalty against a 30yearold man who is accused of beheading a female coworker and attacking another woman. Charged with firstdegree murder and attempted murder. He allegedly went after this 54yearold former coworker after losing his job at this Food Processing plant and then beheaded her. He apparently tried to behead a second woman but did not succeed. She is in the hospital. Shes in stable condition. So joining me now, hlns nancy grace. Nancy, were learning a little bit about this guy, nolan. He was a recent convert to islam, he changed his name, do you think that will be relevant in the case . Well, lets start under the umbrella of the fact that under the law the state does not have to prove motive when it comes to murder or any other felony crime. The state is not required to be able to crawl into the mind of a defendant and figure out and make sense of it all. However, practically speaking, a jury will want to hear motive. Now, we know that he had just changed his name to jakeem. We know he was trying to convert coworkers to islam. We know that he had been atte attending a mosque where he got in trouble and the worshippers there thought he was odd. He got in trouble for placing his prayer book on the ground. He also has islam, arabic tattooed on his stomach. But hold on. He also has jesus christ tattooed on his chest. He has pray hands on one arm and he has juda on the other. Hes got basically a popery of radicalism. Thats the most recent into spirituality. Lets get to the brass tacks. Well, if you look at facebook and social media, you see a bizarre interest in isis. Not only that, he celebrates osama bin laden. We know he was screaming out arabic when he killed the first of his first two female victims, that would have been colleen hufford. Before he got to the second victim who he tried to behead, tracy. Then his boss who owns the company, mark vaughn takes a shot at him. Thats the only thing that stopped him. Back to the Death Penalty issue, though, nancy, we know the d. A. Says its highly likely he will ask for the Death Penalty but wants to consult with the victims families first. Is that unusual . No, it is not unusual. I always consulted with the victims family if i could find them. In this case, back to the issue, islam, the reason, the motivation. Islam is not the reason for killing the radicalization those types of beliefs. Not only in that, but in every religion that you look at. Somehow get twisted and contorted, end up so far diametrically opposed to the message of love to the message of hate. Correct. It may very well be his motive and his twisted mind here. Its sick. Its absolutely sick. Nancy grace, thank you so much. We watch you every night, hln, 8 00 eastern. Thank you very much. Coming up, apple pie and video games. Two items, the terror group isis is using to recruit young westerners. Next, where theyre targeting these kids and how theyre using apple pie to lure people to their cause. Next, were talking also to the family of Alexis Murphy, she was murdered in virginia. Her remains never found. They have reached out to the family in this latest case out of charlottesville. This uva second year Hannah Graham. Hear what message they would like to pass along. How much money do you have in your pocket right now . I have 40, 21. Could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement . I dont think so. Well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to thirty years, that retirement challenge might not seem so big after all. Cnn has many more details here. This twist involving the suspect in this months disappearance of university of virginia student Hannah Graham. A Law Enforcement source tells us here at cnn that dna evidence links the suspect here Jesse Matthew to the case of Morgan Harrington, the Virginia Tech student who disappeared back in 2009. Harrington was 20 years of age when she disappeared after attending a metallica concert in charlottesville where Hannah Graham just recently disappeared. Harringtons remains were found on a farm. Jesse matthew right now is being held in isolation in a jail in virginia. Hes charged with abduction with intent to defile in the Hannah Graham case. A bond hearing is set for thursday. But theres one more potential twist to this story. Four years ago, police linked the Morgan Harrington case to the kidnapping and Sexual Assault of a woman in fairfax, virginia. But so far, police have not connected the dots between the graham case, the harrington case and the assault case in fairfax. Cases similar to those of Hannah Graham and Morgan Harrington have struck the same region of virginia, actually, in recent years. There are at least three other missing persons cases in the area. Look at all these pictures. And not too far apart from one another. 19yearold smith vanished in charlottesville november 20th, 2012. Alexis murphy last seen at a gas station in lovingston. Then there was Samantha Clark who disappeared in september of 2010. Randi kaye has more on two of those cases and how they may be linked to each other with a different killer. Just this month, another search for Samantha Ann Clark in orange county, virginia, four years after she vanished. The 19yearold disappeared in 2010 slipping out after midnight from her townhouse, telling her 14yearold brother she was going out with friends. She never returned. She was with me all the time everywhere i went. She was with me. Law enforcement spent hours scouring this lake. They came up empty handed. Even though weve been at this light numerous times, our experts in this matter have determined that the lake has not yet been 100 cleared. Samanthas cousin believed she always planned to return home. The only thing she took was her house key. And she said she would be back before morning. On samanthas myspace page, a mysterious clue, she posted i hate life, i need help, i dont know what to do. Samanthas mother believes she knows who took her daughter. This man, randy allen taylor. Came and picked her up. He called here six times. And i mean, why would you call my daughter six times if you aint trying to lead her on or trying to talk her into coming out the house or trying to talk her to do something. Taylor was once looked at in samanthas case. But years later, in a bizarre twist, he was actually convicted in the disappearance and murder of another girl. 17yearold Alexis Murphy. Both girls were last seen along the same stretch of highway 29. Samantha was last seen in orange, virginia. Alexis disappeared in lovingston, virginia, about 60 miles away. Alexis family thought they might find her after police found her cell phone. But alexis body was never discovered. Alexis, if youre out there, and you can hear us, just know that your family loves you. We will never stop until you are home. Our Family Circle is broken right now. Police have Surveillance Video showing alexis at a lovingston gas station in august last year. Randy taylor also seen on the video. Hes always maintained his innocence saying that he and alexis and another man went back to his camper to smoke marijuana. Then, he said, alexis and the then unidentified black man left. Taylors attorney also argued his client wasnt the last person to see Alexis Murphy alive. That, instead, police should have been focused on a black male, mid to late 20s with corn rows driving a, quote, 20yearold burgundy caprice with 20inch wheels. Officials say theres no evidence linking the disappearance of Alexis Murphy to Hannah Graham. The black man later identified and implicated by randi taylor was not Jesse Matthew. He also said that man had an alibi and was later cleared. Randi kaye, cnn, new york. Thank you so much. But all these young women missing. Let me be clear again, the case has not been linked to the graham or harrington cases recently in that very same part of virginia. But the family of Alexis Murphy knows all too well what the other families are going through. So joining me now is trina murp murphy. Shes the great aunt of Alexis Murphy. Welcome. Thank you so much for taking the time. Thank you for having me. And just seeing you a couple of years ago in the piece, you pulled out the archive. We said we will never stop until youre home. Take me back to that time. Describe the emotional toll that took on your family. I mean, honestly, i still to this day dont think there are words to describe what its like to have someone missing. The missing phase is really horrible. Its a roller coaster of emotions, you know, one day you think, okay, this is the day we find her, and that day comes to a close and still no resolutions. So its a very difficult place to be, you know, and were still in that place. Shes never been found. No. How, you know, weve been seeing the pictures and hearing from chief tim lago there, talking about the Hannah Graham case and the Community Members coming out and combing areas. How important, or how touching was it for Community Members to do the same for your niece . Reporter well, i remember back then, it was just so humbling to see so many people. A lot of them we knew, a lot of them we had never met before in our lives. Strangers came from all over as far as north carolina, tennessee, other states, just to help us look for alexis. And it was very humbling and very touching and im sure the grahams feel the same way. I know that you and your family are close to Morgan Harringtons family, the young woman who disappeared and later found her body, the one from Virginia Tech. And i just want you to listen to the mother. This is Jill Harrington recently talking about this new forensic link, this dna evidence between the suspect in this hannah gram case and that of her own daughter. Theres a suspect and possibility of a link to morgans murder. And i am so pleased that has happened. But it doesnt change a lot for us. In some ways. You know. Our bedroom is still empty upstairs. Were still not going to have the grandchildren, the wedding, those things. Just to think of that bedroom still, you know, unchanged five years later. And people talk about this notion of closure which i actually take issue with. Just the notion. Youve been in your familys been in contact with the harringtons. How does one prepare for this . Its impossible, i have to imagine. Its impossible to prepare for it. And its impossible to live through it without a lot of support and a lot of help from family and community. And jill and i have become very close over the last year. And i spoke to her yesterday and, you know, her words are so profound because even if we find alexis tomorrow, it changes some things, but doesnt change much. You know, shes she still wont be with us. And you grieve what would have been. Where would she have went to college . Who would she have married . How many children would she have had . You grieve what would have been. And thats, you know, thats a hard place to be. Im sorry that you and your family have had to go through this. Still go through this. But i really do appreciate your strength and your time that youve taken with me today. And just raising awareness that all these young women have gone missing in the same part of virginia. Just a quick programming note, tune into ac 360 tonight, 8 00 eastern here on cnn. Coming up next, though, here a message from an isis recruiter to people in the west. Quote, i am just like you. Were learning more about tactics the terror group is using to try to convince people in the u. S. To join their fight. Plus, we are getting breaking news in the threeweek manhunt that alleged Police Officer killer. There is now word crews have spotted eric frein in the past 24 hours and two pipe bombs have been found. Thats next. Just past the bottom of the hour. Breaking news i want to pass along to you. Police in pennsylvania finding two fully functional pipe bombs in the man hunt for the suspected cop killer. It has been three weeks now since eric frein disappeared after he allegedly shot and killed that officer during an ambush. And, listen to this, we have also learned investigators have spotted frein in the past 24 hours in the wooded area theyve been searching in for quite a while. Keep in mind, police have also said several times they were either closing in on the suspects or getting close to finding him. Two fully functional pipe bombs found in the manhunt. Updates as we get them. All right. Happening right now. Listening to the fierce battle as isis militants close in on the Syrian Border city. Kurdish troops trying to hold them back. And essentially with terrorists knocking on turkeys door, a country which has been pretty quiet so far may now have no choice but to join the u. S. Led war against isis. We are also hearing this. Turkey is submitting a motion to its parliament to, quote, extend its scope of potential action against isis. Thats whats happening with regard to turkeys parliament. But now this quote. I want you to think about this. Put down the chicken wings and come to jihad. Thats a direct quote from an isis recruiter. And thats just the beginning of the recruitment tactics. Cnn moneys laura seagal is here with more. Bro . Bro. I mean, its unbelievable to see how these guys are targeting westerners in particular. And weve heard about isis using facebook, using twitter. But whats scary, theyve moved beyond social networks to one specifically focused on teenagers. Take a look. Question, favorite dessert . Answer, ice cream on top of a hot apple pie. Mow do you maintain your beard . Shampoo scented oils and a comb. Have you ever fallen in love . The day i embraced islam. These are the questions posed to an alleged isis recruiter on ask. Fm, a site thats popular among teens. Approachable to the curious, accessible to the masses, his tag line, im just like you. Cnn cannot independently verify the mans identity. But terrorism analyst confirmed this man is likely an isis recruiter based on the social media presence. Hes a recruiter putting himself out there to some kid who might be trolling, looking to see if he can cash in. Also on this little jihadi adventure that they all think theyre on. He would know. Hes a former recruiter for over the last few years, hes been tracking isis tactics on social networks from a variety of recruiters collecting instagram pictures like this one before it was removed. Likened the isis fight to the video game call of duty. Propaganda posters full of heavy arms. Tweets telling readers to put down the chicken wings and come to jihad, bro. Pictures of what they ate for dinner, on ask. Fm, curious readers inquire about how theyre paid. Another asks if he could join even if he doesnt speak arabic. In some of those answers, youll see a user name encouraging users to message on a private app. As the process continues, some users are directed to more secure sites, like this Password Protected jihadi web form. Ask. Fm says its focused on being able to understand and catch threats. Instagram says they dont allow terrorist groups like isis to promote their causes on the site. But says the western world is playing catchup. Recruitments been going on for a long time. It will be on the decline. But it might be a little too late because now the individuals are already there, theyre part of the group, theyre part of the threat and theyre welcome to bring the threat back. What is so terrifying is that these guys seem so accessible. And, you know, the ask. Fm site, that is still up. That hasnt been taken down. And brooke, took me me about ten minutes to find that online. Simple, unbelievable. I was just asking how you find this stuff in the first place. What about the state department . Theres actually a group called digital operators at the state department. There are about 50 of them and they go on some of these forums and they publish antiislamic state messages. They have a hash tag. Theyre trying to counterthis. That being said, there are 50 of them doing this. Its a massive game of catchup and a lot of the damage has been done. Just cant believe the mac cheese, the bro. They seem so approachable. Its unbelievable. Thank you very much. Great report. And coming up on cnn, a look at the scenes here playing out in hong kong, over there, its already wednesday, and crowds are expected to get even bigger because it is a national holiday. Why are they gathering . One of the directors spoke to cnn directly. Did a College Football coach put winning a game above the safety of one of his players . The coach had harsh words for his critics. Well explain coming up here on cnn. When folks think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Engineering and innovation jobs. Advanced Safety Systems technology. Shipping and manufacturing. Across the United States, bp supports more than a quarter million jobs. When we set up operation in one part of the country, people in other parts go to work. Thats not a coincidence. Its one more part of our commitment to america. Would let me take you home. The power of allegra relieves your toughest indoor and outdoor symptoms fast and stays strong for 24 hours. Stop suffering. Start living. Tonight in ferguson, missouri, the first in a series of town Hall Meetings to address communication between city leadership and those who live there. Ferguson has been in turmoil ever since the shooting of a local black man by a white Police Officer darren wilson. Long simmering racial tensions flared sparking violent protests. Tensions had started to calm down a bit earlier this month but escalated after a memorial. For 18yearold Michael Brown was destroyed by a fire last tuesday. And it is almost 4 00 in the morning in china, start of a new day, and possibly critical day of pro democracy protesters in hong kong. But if all these leaders in beijing are worried, they sure arent showing it. As they attended ceremonies just a short time ago marking the start of a national holiday. This is the 65th anniversary of the founding of communist china. You can bet they are watching events in hong kong very closely. Most Chinese Workers do have the day off. And that means this prodemocracy crowd. This massive crowd here in hong kong, it is expected to grow even larger in the coming hours. And my colleague and host of the lead jake tapper is all over this. Who do you have on today . Were going to be talking to a protester on the ground there because obviously theres a lot of tension and the executive in charge of hong kong has said that the protesters need to disperse, that they promised they would do so if things got out of control, things have gotten out of control. Of course, a lot of people blame the police in hong kong for firing tear gas. We spoke specifically with one young protester named edward choi about what is it like to be in the thick of this protest . Its a bit terrifying. Because its according to my memory, its the first time for the Hong Kong Police to actually launch tear gas on his own people. So we are terrified. We dont know what the government will do next. We have tried different means and different have tried to talk to the central government, it didnt work. We have tried peaceful demonstration. Just for one day, it didnt work. We have to do this movement to try to force the government to hear what we are really talking about. And as you have covered before, brooke, the chinese promised that by 2017, the people of hong kong would be able to democratically elect their own rulers. Theyre attempting to renege on that promise. Thats what has so many people in hong kong so nervous. And these big crowds were going to see likely today because of the Chinese National day will likely only inflame matters. Were going to keep an eye on hong kong, of course, brooke. Right, its like beijing is saying pro democracy, you get to choose your leaders, but were going to choose the pool of leaders for you first. Jake tapper, well be watching for that interview coming up. Thank you, sir at the top of the hour. The lead. Meantime, the most decorated olympian ever arrested for drunk driving. And a statement from Michael Phelps, what he is saying next. Well share that with you. Plus, controversy over how a College Football coach handled an injury to one of his players. Critics say the quarterback should never have been in the game. Why did he continue to play . What the coach is now saying next. To help entertain some friends at the beach. Before earning 1 cash back everywhere, every time. And 2 back at the grocery store. Even before he got 3 back on gas. All with no hoops to jump through. Rafael was inspired to use his bankamericard cash rewards credit card to spend a night watching the stars, under the stars. Thats the beauty of rewarding connections. Apply online or at a bank of america near you. Narrator these are the skater kid whoa narrator that got torture tested by teenagers and cried out for help. From the surprised designers. Who came to the rescue with a brilliant fix male designer i love it narrator which created thousands of new customers for the tennis shoes that got torture tested by teenagers. The internet of everything is changing manufacturing. Is your Network Ready . E financial noise financial noise financial noise financial noise. Just in to cnn, olympic swimmer Michael Phelps reacting to his arrest in baltimore. Police say he was going 84 in a 45. Among issues on twitter, phelps said, earlier this morning i was arrested and charged with dui, excessive speeding and crossing double lines. I understand and take the responsibility. I know these words may not mean much right now but i am deeply sorry to everyone that i have letdown. Keep in mind, this is not phelps first dui. University of michigans Football Program under fire. The star quarterback, shane morris, took a huge hit that left him staggering and needing the help of his teammates just to get up. He stumbled after the hit, came off the field but was back in the game mere minutes later. That decision has put the head coach of this team on the defensive when it comes to players safety and the wellbeing of his team. Your interest in the wellbeing of these two athletes, is that paramount . Thats why you coach. Thats why i got into coaching, to help kids. Well, hoping kids is also their welfare and their health. I mean, we would never, ever, if we thought a guy had a concussion, keep him in the game, and never have. Michigans Athletic Director released a statement in part this morning, as of sunday, shane was diagnosed with a probable mild concussion and a high ankle sprain. That probable concussion diagnosis was not at all clear during the game on saturday or in the examination conducted postgame. Joining me now, chief medical correspondent dr. Sanjay gupta. I mean, you have done documentaries and talked so much about football concussions. Your response to this . This, i think, is a mistake. Im a michigan guy. I went to michigan. I was watching the game on saturday. Thats right. And i saw that hit and it was a pretty significant hit. Its not an exact science to diagnose a concussion but anybody watching that probably knows that it was a big hit. He was down on the ground for a long time and then a neurologist saw that i was stumbling around. Wasnt entirely sure, obviously, if he had suffered a concussion. He was brought out of of the game. What i understand, i read the same statement from the neurologist that you did. He was examined before being put back in and that didnt happen and this player who had taken this big hit was put back in the game. They make a big point of saying, look, the concussion wasnt clear. It wasnt even clear postgame. Thats fine. This is not an exact science. But one of the mantras people have talked about for some time is, when in doubt, you sit it out. Right. This is not the sort of thing you want to take a chance with. If somebody takes a second hit after suffering a concussion, well, youre not talking about just being out for a few seconds. Were talking about having a catastrophic brain injury. Thats exactly what youre trying to prevent. I think they fell down on the job when it came to this particular player. Heres what i dont get. As many times as you have been on the television explaining the dangers, these hits, explaining when in doubt, sit it out, something is being lost in translation that this is still happening at the College Level and perhaps beyond. Yeah. And its a little bit befuddling given how important this is. You saw coach brady hoke there talking about the welfare of the players is his concern. I think thats true. I think that hes also not the guy in a position to be able to say, does this player have a concussion . Are we worried about him to bench him or not . There was significant miscommunication on the sideline. You had a neurologist there who said, look, im concerned. Lets fool this player. He does come out apparently when a neurologist is coming down to examine him to make a decision and hes put back in before that examination takes place. That just is not right. Just because im a football fan, the other quarterback that went in got his helmet knocked off. By ncaa rules, hes got to sit out the next play when you get your helmet knocked off. They put shane morris in again, the guy that just got a significant blow to the head. And i think that was the mistake, brooke. Little did they know a a neurosurgeon would be watching the game himself and saying it was a mistake. Thank you. Appreciate it. Theres a threeweek manhunt for this alleged police killer. Police have spotted eric frein in the last 24 hours and have found not just one but two fully functional pipe bombs in this search. Thats next. When i had my first, i was lucky. That sounds crazy, i know. 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Breaking news here to us at cnn, police in pennsylvania fighting two fully functional pipe bombs. See this picture, in the manhunt for a suspected cop killer. Its been three weeks since eric frein disappeared after he allegedly shot and killed a Police Officer during an ambush. We have learned that investigators have spotted frein in the last 24 hours in this wooded area they have been searching for quite a while but then again police said several times they were closing in on the suspect. And finally, a massachusetts judge is hearing motions today in the murder trial against aaron hernandez. The defense is trying to convince the judge to suppress some evidence. Aaron hernandez is accused of killing three people, including a semiprofessional Football Player named oden lloyd. Hes pleaded not guilty. Watch tonight, downward spiral inside the case against aaron hernandez. 9 00 eastern tonight on cnn. Thats it for me. Ill see you tomorrow. Im brooke baldwin. The lead with jake tapper starts right now. Good thing for the president this guy was there on his day off. Im jake tapper. This is the lead. The national lead. Come right on in, the secret service grilled all day on capitol hill. Now were learning new details about the man who got deep into the white house. It took an offduty agent to stop him. The world lead. We have millions of people on the streets. I dont think they can shoot that many people. But today could be the tipping point. A day off