Coronavir head of the Coronavirus Task force, even as the virus surges across the country. There he was, making his way to North Carolina. On top of that we have learned that mark meadows tried to keep the news of the outbreak under wraps. This morning, when asked about the surge in case numbers nationwide, here was mideadows response. Were not going to control the pandemic. We are going to control the fact that we get vaccines, therapeutics. Why arent we getting control of the pandemic . Because its a contagious virus like the flu. Why not make efforts to contain it . We are making efforts. By running all over the country not wearing maskses . We cant get into the back and forth 678 let me say this. We need to have the proper mitigating factors to make sure people dont die from this. Joe biden is now pointing to that comment as proof that the white house has given up. Just moments ago President Trump campaigning in maine without a mask, getting up close to voters to sign hats, give phi bumps. It was just over three weeks ago he was hospitalized with coronavirus. Joining us is dr. Jonathan reiner, a professor of medicine at George Washington university, also advised the Bush White House medical unit for eight years. Doctor, good to see you. Lets start with this new outbreak in the Vice President s office, and we saw pictures moments ago boarding a flight on the way to North Carolina to campaign. Whats the message this administration is sending . Its a perplexing message. Someone whos had the level of exposure that the Vice President almost certainly has had with five very close aides, including his bod counter man, that exposure should be followed by a 14day quarantine. The only other possible explanation for not quarantining would be if the Vice President has already had the virus. If he has not already had the virus, and certainly weve never been doled hes had the virus, he should be in quarantine, pitched. Hes considered a essential worker, if you listen to the chief of staff mark meadows. He says he should be out there, no problem. Yeah, what is essential about a Campaign Trip . When i think about an essential worker, i think about the last person able to work in a Nuclear Power plant control room. Yeah, thats an essential worker, but theres nothing critical to Public Safety for the Vice President campaigning. If we were in a time of war and the Vice President needed to be in the command spaces, okay, but this is a campaign. He risks infecting everyone around him. So the cdc recommendations are 14 days that you quarantine if someone in your circle tests positive. Were told that pence tested negative today, so what would be the window of consideration for the Vice President if were learning that five people in his circle have tested positive . Is there a window, like a safety window for him, to be able to bypass those cdc recommendations . No, the window is 14 days. Testing does not get you out of the window. First of all, most people will test positive or develop symptoms somewhere in the 4 to 7, 5 to 7 day range after exposure, but it can be wider than that. Testing negative today doesnt mean hell that he wont test positive tomorrow. In the meantime, hes shedding virus. He could be quarantining. So youre talking about the risk now for everyone who may be on board that flight or anyone who comes into contact with the Vice President as he makes his ways to kingston, North Carolina . Right. Its a Community Health hazard. Anyone who comes into contact with the Vice President , if he indeed is infected, runs the risk of acquiring the virus. President trump made a campaign top . Maine today. You can see him. He is just inching away from nonmasked people, his secret service just as close. You see the president even knuckle bumping some, signing heats. What are your concerns . He has had coronavirus, hes the one who says hes immune. What are your continued concerns about the medical community and sometimes the coronavirus seems to be conveying, but exemplified very differently here. I feel like every time he i see the president , hes pulling the rug underneath my feet. Every time i talk to patients not just about their heart health, but i talk about viral safety, masking up everywhere you go, social distancing, lowering your viral footprint, and then i look at the leader of this country completely undermining that effort. Bringing thousands together, most of them without masks, 180 degrees counter to the message that every Health Professional in the United States gives their patients. Its a menace to society. Chief of staff mark meadows said today to our jake tapper, we are not going to control the pandemic. So those words, and that imagery, i mean, is he is saying were simply throwing in the towel . Yeah, i hear a lot of scott atlas in that statement. Thats a lot of herd immunity in that statement. Thats horrifying. We can control this pandemic. Think about the district of column bia columbia, despite thes apparent epps centering in the white house, d. C. With the highest rate of mask wearing in the country, im proud to say, has a 1. 3 positivity rates, some of the lowest rates in the country. Thats how we contain the pandemic. Thats what we do. We get everyone to marv up. What the chief of staff is saying is surrender. No, no, no, we get everyone to mask up, thats how we get the rates down. Jonathan reiner, thank you so much. I appreciate it. My pleasure. All right. Earlier, bidens running mate. Kamala harris was pulled off the campaign trail for several days out of an abundance of caution after her communication director tested positive. She now says Vice President mike pence should do the same. Jessica dean is following all of this for us. Jessica, what more are we hearing from the biden hairs campaign . Well, fred, as you mentioned, a similar situation happened to Kamala Harris, though she was never in close contact with her Communications Director after she tested positive, but out of an abundance of caution, they did pull her off the campaign trail for several days. Shes back on the campaign trail. Heres what she had to say about it earlier. He should be following the guidelines. Were doing it. I think we have modeled the right and good behavior, and they should take our lead. Reporter this has been a stark contrast that the Biden Campaign has wanted to draw between President Trump and his administration up and down what a biden hairs administration would do. They have centered so much of their Campaign Around the coronavirus pandemic, what they would do to get it under control, what they would be doing with masks, et cetera, et cetera. You can imagine, fred, theyre all about following the guidelines, listening to the scientists. We have heard that again and again from this campaign. It is echos what harris said today. We also got a statement from joe biden earlier today in which he said mark meadows was essential giving up, the Trump Administration is waving the white flag when it comes to the coronavirus pandemic. Fred, we can expect to hear more as they giving Closing Argument leading up to the election. A president trailing in the polls with just nine days to go . So what is his strategy in the final stretch . Carl bernstein joins us live with his new reporting, next. Also next, ana cabrera. Tech every customer has their own safelite story. This couple was on a camping trip. When their windshield got a chip. 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We have pence saying he intends to be in the Senate Chamber tomorrow night for the vote to confirm Amy Coney Barrett for that ninth spot on the Supreme Court. Plainly whats happening is the head of the Coronavirus Task force is giving the coronavirus battle less priority than his other goals, trying to come from behind and win an election and cement a majority on the Supreme Court. That attitude has some allying of the president concerned. The president could presumably anywhere, but today he was in maine. Why maine . Theres one electoral voight that he could win that he won four years ago. Hes been trailing joe biden by a narrow margin there. As he sweeps around the country trying to defend turf from a bunch of places from arizona, florida, North Carolina he making a stop in maine to try to defend that electric troll vote. Hes going to need every one of those on election day. John harwood, thank you. Joining us now is john avalon and margaret hoover. Good to see you, as always, guys. This idea that its just nine days before the election, a little over a week, theres a second White House Coronavirus outbreak, one that the chief of staff tried to keep hush hush about the leader of the task force continues with his campaign rallying s john, doesnt that scream we dont care about peoples safety . This is the do as we say, not as we do. This administration doesnt care about transparency. The fact that its five people in the Vice President s office, that hes the head of the task force, one includes his body man as well as his chief of staff, who to some reports has been somewhat skeptic about the mitigation efforts, and the chief of staff today said theres nothing we can do to control the virus. This is on the ballot on election today as america hits new highs. We arent seeing frankly responsible leadership. We heard from Kamala Harris, she was pulled off the trail. Even Chris Christie said he was surprised pence wasnt quarantining. What are the optics here . Ana, lets be very clear. Kamala harris was not pulled off the trail. She chose to stay off the trail, because she felt that was the better, more responsible approach to having been exposed to coronavirus. Theres a fundamental ate different approach and philosophy about how to handle coronavirus from the chair of the White House Coronavirus staffing force, which undermines all the gripes they have put out. Heres the problem, for pence and trump and all, is that as long as coronavirus is in the news, greating the narratives, theyre losing the election. When the story is everyone around them has coronavirus, it high dpp lights how poorly theyve handled the coronavirus. That is every single poll, every single crosstab, almost every sector believes that. The best thing they could do from a political perspective is pretend its not happening and just keeping going. Keep campaigning, keep getting out there. Thats why youre seeing them still hitting three states. This is what they need to do in their view, and probably political in order to shift the narrative. Doesnt help. It shows the fundamental problem an ostrit ostrichit approach. Theyre expected to speak next hour to this crowd. I cant tell if theyre socially distancing, or just typically fewer people than what we see at trumps rallies, but clearly people arent worry here about pence it coming and potentially exposing him. He tested negative this morning, but we know theres still a possibility he contracted the virus but just havent tested positive yet. There are pockets of this country that still dont believe this it virus is real. We know the nature of this virus. What seems to be missing is the sense of personal responsibility to the common good, in order to mask up and take precautions to help other people. They dont need to be losing if they would just change the way they handle it, which is to following the task force guidelines. John, you mentioned earlier the president would like to be talking about anything other than the coronavirus. He made it clear yesterday. Listen. Were rounding the turn. Were doing great. Our numbers are incredible. Thats all i hear about now. You turn on the television, covid, covid, a plane goes down, 500 people dead, they dont talk about it. Covid, covid. By the way, on november 4th, you wont hear any more about it. Covid, covid the thing is, john, i spoke to a previously undecided voter, he told me he made up his mind to vote for joe biden. When he was sick and he went to the hospital and came back and just marched up the steps right there and took his mask off, im thinking to myself, no, that cant happen. We have to protect people. We have to do the right thing. We have to be smart and we have to get ahead of this thing. Hes not making any strides to do that. John, are you surprised the president hasnt changed his behavior or strategy here . No, because donald trump is not going to change. Im surprised to some extent it was the covita episode that would be an evita reference. It actually impacted many trump voters, who thought that was a moment that really but the Covid Response has been a real problem with folks who have been wanting to stay with him for various reasons, but i want to go back where he says covid, covid, covid. Thats an insult to the every single one of more than 200,000 people who have died. Theyre not distractions. Im sorry its getting in the way of the narrative the president would like to say, but we are in the middle of a pandemic. We are not turning the corner. It is getting worse. Friday we hit a new alltime high. Its not that mike pence will give those folks in the audience covid necessarily. We have a problem with the president spreading misinformation and disinformation when we cannot agree on common facts. Thats a failure of leadership expressing itself in a real, historic up impact. Just to bring the temperature down a bit im sorry. I appreciate it is a very serious matter, but from a purely political matter, ana, the other piece of this is that the president s campaign has significantly left cash on hand than donald trump, so the reason you have to see mike pence in North Carolina and donald trump in maine, and donald trump in michigan where hes going repeatedly over the next nine days, is the only way they can be on tv is with earned media. The only way hes doing to get media attention, his earned media is going to track with joe bidens paid media. They cant afford to take precautions, in their view. Meantime you have biden planning to campaign in georgia, a state that hasnt got blue since 1992. Theyre sending Kamala Harris to texas. What does that tell you . You see the democrats trying to play in states that donald trump has won last round or democrats havent won in a long time, because the polling shows them close or slightly ahead. While donald trump is busy defending the areas he won the time around. You want to find the truth in politics, follow the money. Trump is playing defense, democrats are playing offense. Thats just what the map tells you right now. Do you think its interesting, margaret, that the president is in maine . Trying to pick up one vote . Is that how close he thinking the race will be . I think its evidence that its close. I think it also helps with the senate. You know, there is no Susan Collins race in maine, there is no bandy senator from maine that has ever lost their seat. Some of the recent polls, which my husband is laughing about no, no. Demonstrate shes closing the gap. I dont blame trump for going if he hands to hold the senate. Normally i give agreed credit for my wifes psychic abilities, but the democrats have been putting up signs that say trump collins. Shes trying to establish her independence. To be fair, to your very good point, he is trying to rack up electoral votes, about you it doesnt hurt with that solid base of enthusiastic trump supporters. It may be uncomfortable seeing how close he was to they voters. He wasnt wearing a mask. There are multiple people around him without masks. While he already had the coronavirus, theres so much we dont know. There have been cases. You want to mask up. John, margaret, thank you so much. I cant believe were a week away. Well see you next weekend for the big push. All right. A president trailing in the polls with just nine days to go, what is his strategy . Legendary Journalist Carl Bernstein joins us with his new reporting, next. 9 1. In the final sprint toe election day, President Trump held a rally in New Hampshire before he headed to maine, and he cast doubt again on the election process. I was really impressed yesterday in florida, because there was no way there could be any cheating. No way. These people were great, the system is great. There was no way youre voting twice. But the ballots are not that way. The ballots get handled by many, many people by the time they even get there. It shouldnt be allowed. The democrats know its a hoax and its going to cause problem. Ive said it before and ill say it again, there is no evidence to support the president s continued claim of widespread voter fraud with mailin ballots. I want to bring in carl bernstein. This is a claim we ahead from the evidence over and over again what are you hearing . That hes intention a waging a scorched Earth Campaign in the final days, the likes of which we have never seen, and it could ben unthinkable. It undermines and cast doubt, so he can claim if he seems to be losing but also Kamala Harris, her family, others, as well as attempts to get the attorney general of the United Statesia initiate arrest literally arrest members of the biden family, perhaps Obama Administration official. Hes also in a rage about all of this, just barking out orders to people around him to accomplish some of these outrageous things i dont think hes been wishywashy about it. Ther the republican senators on the hill would have to go to trump and tell him you cannot challenge this election. You cannot challenge these results, because he is setting up an apparatus and methodology in which he intends to prolounge the count thats part of his strategy so there might not be a majority going for joe biden, and then the election would go toed house. But everything he is looking at. I get some of this from republicans on the hill who are terribly, terribly concerned about what they regard as the president s brush with unconstitutional and unthinkable acts to undermine the electoral process. They are very, very worried about it. Many republicans in this senate who are trying to come tole to try to make the plan that if the apt trying to invoke a election crisis, they will try to let law, order and the constitution prevail. If he does, what theres about 6, 8, 10 members in the senate, republicans in the senate, who are talking with each other about how to restrain who they regard as an outofcontrol, almost madman, to use the term of one of those senators, who is determined to do anyone to hold on to office, regardless of the legality, regardless of how far it crosses lines that are unthinkable, in terms of authoritarian itch. That include people who talk to mitch mcconnell. They know his worried, too because the Republican Party can be held respond for his actions if they dont do something about his provocative acts to undermine the constitution, if he goes as far in the scorchedEarth Campaign as they fear he will, some of these senators. You mentioned the president urging the attorney general and the Justice Department to open an investigation into his political opponents. I want to play something else. He is lucky that we have a wonderful human being and the most fair attorney general of the funds i know people who would have had him locked up five weeks ago. Bill barr is a wonderful human big and very fair person. I say it and i say it once. Just remember it. I get angry, too. Hes still hoping and trying to get barr to do his bidding and come up with a way to indict Obama Administration officials that the Justice Department is in any kind of smear that might make it possible to tar the Biden Campaign, to tar joe biden, his family, the Vice President ial nomineeing in possible he can to doing them to do that would smear these people at the last moment, he is trying to accomplish. Once again, the misuse of classified information has some National Security deputies worked that it will be selectively used to attack people in a way that is not true. Going from whats on social media and particularly the rightwing social media, and getting members of his administration to continue to repeat it, repeat it, repeat it during the Campaign IncludingVice President pence. This is about smears. This is about unidermining the electoral process at the same time the smearing is going on, and creating again a scorchedEarth Campaign, and wise honestly what ive been told is you dont know what youre going to see yet, because its going to be the likes of something we have never seen. When i heard that, i took it as a real threat to our democratic process here in this country. There are those even around the president who are worried about his actions. Carl bernstein, thank you very much for joining us. 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All of this is happening with just nine days to go. Lets get to capitol hill and our congressional reporters lauren fox. What are you hearing from key republican senators . Reporter today we have two republican senators vote against the nomination. However, we expect that lisa murkowski, one of those republicans who voted today, will actually vote yes tomorrow to confirm Amy Coney Barrett. Essential what she said was how close this was all happening to the election. However, she did not want to penalize the nominee, and therefore shes going to support her tomorrow during this nomination. We expect that Susan Collins will be the lone republican voting against her tomorrow. We should note shes up for reelection in the state of maine. Ana . Theres another curveball. At least five members of Vice President pences circle have tested positive. So is he still planning to attend tomorrow . Reporter i asked the majority whip john thune about this. He said its really up to mike pence. Remember, they dont need pence to be presiding over this vote. They have the votes that they need. Like i said, they only have one republican defection, but democrats are furious about the prospect of pence coming to capitol hill. Here is what Chuck Schumer said just a few hours ago. The Vice President , whos been exposed to five people with covid19 will ignore cdc guidelines to be here tomorrow, putting the health of everyone who works in this building at risk. It sets a terrible, terrible example for the american people. And nothing could be a more apt metaphor for whats going on here. The Republican Party is willing to ignore the pandemic to rush this Supreme Court nomination forward. Reporter we asked again thune whether or not he thought that mike pence should be coming to capitol hill. One point he made that i think is important tounder score, the Vice President is tested regularly for coronavirus. He did test negative this morning. We expect he would be tested against tomorrow, but that, of course, is a Sticking Point going into the vote tomorrow evening, whether or not the Vice President will actually attend that vote in person. Ana . Lauren fox, keep us posted. Thanks. Thanks to the founding fathers,ist not how many votes, but where they come from. Harry enten breaks down the mustwin states. When being a fan on a budget gets tough. Our agents do the legwork,. So saving on Auto Insurance is. Easy usaa. What youre made of, were made for. A livcustomizeper iquickbooks for me. Easy okay, youre all set up. Thanks that was my business gi, this ones casual. Get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks. We knew that this was really, really bad. We had ample forewarning. But we did almost no testing, almost no contact tracing. Completely ignored the science, completely ignored the warning signs. There were things that could have been done. 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The forecast is for democrats to get up to 51 seats, which would give them a bare majority. I should point out this race does remain in the margin of error. You can see that with individual races. What you see now is on the democratic side there are five seats where democrats look like they are favored at this point to pick up seats. Arizona, colorado, iowa, maine, North Carolina. But look at both North Carolina and iowa. Those races are really, really tight. At this point it looks like the republicans are going to pick up one seat in alabama. Thats Douglas Jones seat obviously that flipped in the 2017 special election. Right now democrats are favored but it is a close race. Lets turn to president ial race. Who has easier path to 270 electoral votes. Right now, look, its former Vice President joe biden. Can you see that best in the seven closest contests from the 2016 election that trump won, and you can see that biden does lead in all of those contests but in florida and North Carolina its well inthe margin of error. I would point out perhaps the race was a little closer than it was a week ago. In places like wisconsin, pennsylvania, nebraska second congressional and michigan its pretty sure biden has the advantage. Lets drill down. What are some of bidens easiest paths. This sort of gets at it. The easiest path by far is to essentially win the Clinton States and add in the states which biden holds a fivepoint lead even if trump won them. Were talking about places like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. That nebraska Second District i mentioned. This even affords biden the potential to lose in places like florida, North Carolina, and arizona where he does hold a polling lead. The second best path for biden at this point is lets just say he loses in a place like pennsylvania but then he holds onto the states where he holds a fourpoint lead in the polls in both september and october, that gets biden to exactly 270 electoral votes because he wins in arizona, nebraskas second congressional district, wisconsin and michigan. In this path he loses in florida and North Carolina. Im up against the end of the hour here, so in 30 seconds, give us trumps path . Yeah. Trumps best path is pretty simple. Hes got to win florida, North Carolina, arizona, and then hes got to win a mid we were state in which joe biden is leading right now, a place like pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin. If trump doesnt break through in the midwest, theres no way he can get through to 270 votes. Thanks so much. Harry, good to see you. Show you live images right now biden expected pence spe after another outbreak. Hes not going into quarantine. His plane touched down ahead of his rally there. 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Live in the cnn newsroom, im ana cabrera in new york. With nine days until the election nothing can keep Vice President mike pence off the campaign trail, not even a coronavirus outbreak in his inner circle. Were looking at live images of the rally in North Carolina. Lets listen in. Im telling you what, you could tell last night in lumberton but you can especially tell tonight, North Carolina is trump country. Thank you all for coming out. Thanks so much for coming out