Thank you. The president s comments come a day after obama sharply criticized how the Trump Administration has handled the pandemic. More than anything, this pandemic is fully, finally torn back the curtain on the idea that so many of the folks in charge know what theyre doing. A lot of them arent even pretending to be in charge. Lets get right to cnns jeremy diamond, at the white house. Jeremy, weve got a rising death toll, and historic unemployment, and what we are seeing is now the president reverting to an old strategy of attacking obama. He certainly is. And what we have seen from President Trump in this last week, as we have heard those criticisms from the former president barack obama, is that weve seen President Trump attempt to, you know, lay all of these claims about the former president , including conspiracy theories, suggesting that president obama was leading a conspiracy to undermine his presidency, essentially, from the start. President obama also, you saw him today responding to that latest criticism from president obama, not on the substance, but simply firing back and saying that president obama was grossly incompetent as president. What we do know is that President Trump, of course, has been unwilling to look at any potential failures within his own administration as far as the response to the coronavirus. But we are, this morning, ana, hearing from one of the president s top advisers, Peter Navarro, who is casting some blame inside the Trump Administration. Certainly not inside the white house, but looking at the cdc. Liste listen. Early on in this crisis, the c cdc, which really had the most trusted brand around the world in this space, really let the country down with the testing. Because not only did they keep the testing within the bureaucracy, they had a bad test. And that did set us back. Reporter we do know, of course, ana, that there had been significant issues with the cdcs attempts to develop a coronavirus test early in this response, which delayed the response to coronavirus for several weeks. Dr. Anthony fauci has called it a failure. This morning, secretary alex azar, the secretary of health and human services, he acknowledged that there had been an issue with testing at cdc, but he insisted that cdc was not to blame for this administrations response to coronavirus. So certainly Peter Navarro there expressing a view that is not uniformly held within this administration. Meantime, were also seeing the president this weekend continuing to shake up the entities that are responsible for oversight of his administration. Just yesterday, we were reporting on the president firing the state Department Inspector general, as he was reportedly in the middle of an investigation of secretary of state mike pompeo. And now were just learning of another staff change over at the department of transportation . Thats right. And what this appears to be, ana, is more efforts by the white house to exert control over who these inspectors generals are and who these official are really who are going to hold these different agencies accountable. This time, though, the move is not to fire someone, its not to remove someone from a position, but it is to replace who is there as the acting Inspector General. The department of transportations senateconfirmed Inspector General resigned from that position back in january. That individuals deputy had been in there as the acting Inspector General over the last several months, but now the white house actually moved to put in place a new acting Inspector General at the department of transportation, as it also named and nominated a new, permanent replacement for that position. But this is, again, as you said, ana, the fifth move to either replace or fire an Inspector General in just the last six weeks. So certainly, again, the white house trying to exert some more control over those inspectors general, a critical position, of course. Ana . Jeremy diamond at the white house, thank you. Reporter the coronavirus pandemic is far from over, as most states across the nation forge ahead with phased reopenings. By midnight tonight, 48 states will have eased at least some restrictions. This comes as eleven states see a rising number of confirmed cases. The state of texas on saturday reporting its highest oneday spike since the pandemic began, with more than 1,800 new cases. Still, Texas Governor greg abbott is allowing more businesses to reopen tomorrow, including some gyms and offices. Lets get right out to cnns ed lavendera in dallas. Ed, how are people there in texas reacting to this latest surge in cases . Well, look, its a Beautiful Day here in dallas and throughout much of the state, after a long, rainy day yesterday, and quarantine fatigue has set in. A lot of places you go, you see many more people out and about than we have seen in recent weeks. And this comes as the state continues to reopen, another recordsetting day in the number of new cases. More than 1,800 reported by the state of texas yesterday. State Health Officials attribute the large spike in the numbers yesterday to focused testing in the texas panhandle area around amarillo, texas. And because of meat packing plants there, more than 730 cases coming from that specific testing with workers at meat packing plants. And thats what state Health Officials attribute the large spike in cases. This also comes as the overall number of tests have gone up dramatically. In three of the last four days, weve seen more than 30,000 tests each day. Those are some of the highest numbers weve seen. Texas is still far behind per capita in terms of how many people are testing across the country. But, that is the most weve seen here in this state so far. But because of these numbers, there are still many big city leaders here who are urging caution and still urging people to socially distance themselves and to take a closer look at these numbers and to take them seriously. This is the mayor of austin. It makes me take pause. It makes everyone i know take pause. I think because everyone is watching this to see what this grand experiment is going to result in. But we know for an absolute certainty that as you increase physical interactions between people, you are going to increase the number of new cases. It just happens. Thats why everybody is staying at home shut this thing down. The question is, are those new cases going to come at such a rate and such a pace that were put on a path to overload our hospitals . Thats what we cant let happen. And thats why we have to watch these numbers daily. Reporter and ana, with these latest numbers, the governor of texas has continued to maintain that his plan to reopen the texas economy is a great plan that continues tomorrow, as exercise and workout facilities will be allowed to reopen, as well. Ana . Ed lavendera in dallas. Now to new york where effective and efficient testing was the focus of governor Andrew Cuomos briefing this morning. He said the state of new york is conducting about 40,000 tests per day and is testing more per capita than some countries. And in an attempt to show fellow new yorkers how easy it is, the governor got tested for coronavirus live on the spot. We dont know the results of that test just yet. Lets get out to cnns Evan Mcmorris santoro live in new york. Evan, weve heard from Health Experts that testing is key to reopening communities. Is new york still on the right track to begin to reopen . Well, ana, its certainly good for people in new york that testing is available and rising. And in some areas of the state, some lesspopulous areas have seen some reopening. But in new york city, where im standing, the lockdown remains. The same one thats been going on for the last two months. Theres been some clamoring for beaches and things to open. Summers here, people want to get out and start doing things, but the mayor of new york city, bill de blasio said in a press conference this morning, thats not happening yet. Ive side before and im going to say again, we are not opening our beaches on memorial day. We are not opening our beaches in the nearterm. It is not safe. It is not the right thing to do in the epicenter of this crisis. The mayor and the governor are still talking about new york city as a place where social distancing is incredibly important and its very carefully and closely watched. Where i am right now in domino park in brooklyn, which is a very popular park in a populous area. And its only five acres in size. So, there are reports early on that people were coming here, because theyre supposed to get out of their house and it was so dense and it was getting overwhelmed, so theres a solution put into place today or last week, rather, that were seeing in place today, which is that the authorities came, painted circles on the ground, 6 feet apart. You sit in the circle and youre 6 feet from the other people in the circle six feet away from you. And theres a Huge Police Presence enforcing the social distancing. So even though we see those testing numbers and see some conversations about reopening, new york is still a place where social distancing is being enforced and people are being told to try to stay at home as much as they think. Interesting to see those circles in the grass. Thank you, evan. Coming up, mysterious symptoms. Doctors baffled by other unusual illnesses that may be connected to the coronavirus. Dr. Sanjay gupta looks into that, next. Want to brain better . Unlike ordinary memory supplements neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. Memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. Try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. In the months since the coronavirus came into our lives, one thing has remained constant. We dont know everything about it. Doctors are still baffled by some of the symptoms they are seeing in patients, symptoms that attack the entire body. And if proven fatal, including in children. Heres dr. Sanjay gupta. Now im ready to go out into the er. I dont know quite what to expect yet. Dont know what to expect. In so many ways. The coronavirus has challenged e. R. Doctors like matt buy since it hit, baffling doctors with its mysterious symptoms. Coronavirus is a respiratory virus. It can spread through droplets with each cough or each breath. You have a droplet that then goes into your nose, maybe down to your throat, and eventually down into your lungs. Reporter but some people have critically low oxygen levels, yet still appear like you and me. Almost unimaginable, how people could be awake and alert and have oxygen levels that are half normal. Reporter and it gets even more confusing. A respiratory virus doesnt typically cause isolated loss of smell or bumps and lesions on the feet. From nose to toes, and nearly every organ in between. How does a microscopic strand of rna wreak so much and such varied destruction. So when they come in, they can be to the extreme where they have no pulse already or theyre coming in breathing really fast and high pypoxic and cold and b. Reporter it could have to do with how the virus enters our body in the first place. See how the spikes on the coronavirus bind to the surface of the cell . This particular receptor is known to be in lung tissue, but its also known to be in the heart and other parts of the body. It seems that this ace 2 receptor is expressed more potentially with age. Reporter higher levels of ace 2 are often present in men, which could also explain why they are most likely to be affected more severely. Patients like 33yearold lauren al vega who had a lifethreatening blood clot in his lungs. Next thing i know, i was on the floor. Reporter then theres the mystery of what its doing to some children. At least three dead now in new york, with an illness with symptoms similar to kawasaki disease, a condition where the blood vessels become inflamed. We have about 100 cases of an inflammatory disease in Young Children that seems to be created by the covid virus. The children that are having these signs of inflammatory conditions, they already had the infection over two weeks ago. So this is not like another virus that ive seen. Reporter this tiny little virus, which cannot even be killed, because truth is, its not even alive. Our thanks to sanjay for that report. Lets turn to our experts now, dr. Jane phillip is a cnn medical analyst and a physician at George WashingtonUniversity Hospital joins us, as well as ann rimoin, a professor in the department of epidemiology at ucla. So dr. Phillips, can you think of another virus that has been linked to this many different symptoms . Not in particular. You know, we know with sars and with mers, sort of the cousins of this particular coronavirus, that about one third of patients had some chronic medical problems stemming from it. Particularly lung scarring. There were some other minor systemic effects, but this virus is very peculiar in its ability to affect multiple different organ symptoms, and the big question are what are going to be the longterm sequele of this disease . We can see easily right now what the shortterm effects are, from mild symptoms to intense Critical Care requiring illness to death. But in the coming months and even over the next year, were going to really see what this does to the human body on a longterm basis. And thats a really scary thought when you think about the impact on other organs on the body and the cdc director said the u. S. Can see 100,000 deaths by june 1st. As you see 48 states now relaxing restrictions, whats your biggest fear . My biggest fear is that were going to see the resurgence that dr. Fauci suggested in his testimony in front of congress. I think that, you know, we worry that we will start seeing people mixing. We do not have good restrictions or good guidelines in place for people, how to reopen. Its going to become very confusing for people. Were going to see more and more cases and well see the exact same thing that we saw in march, which was spikes in cases, clusters that will expand, our Health Systems potentially becoming overwhelmed again. So, you know, the risk of the virus has not been reduced. The risk to humanity has not been reduced. The risk of contracting the virus has not been reduced. So were still in the same place. And so my biggest fear is, of course, were going to be seeing more cases and having the psychological impact that dr. Fauci also suggested of going back into major lockdowns. On the other hand, dr. Phillips, theres a new study that was just published, confirming that social distancing works. In fact, it says social distancing measures actually cut the daily growth of this virus in the u. S. By 9 , after two to three weeks. And the researchers estimate that without social distancing, the cases in the u. S. Could have been 35 times higher. Given this information, concrete evidence that social distancing works, do you think that reopening, as long as people continue to do the social distancing, could be successful . So, its good to see data that confirms that we as doctors and scientists have known for decades. That nonpharmaceutical interventions, meaning hand hygiene, cough hygiene, and social distancing actually does reduce viral transmission. So this isnt a surprise to those of us who have been providing this advice to the general public. What we can hope is that by seeing scientific papers that show this, that the public will continue to Pay Attention and perhaps some of those who are disregarding those important instructions will change their minds. You know, it reopening is important. Its taking dramatic tolls on not only the economy, but also the psychological wellbeing of our populous. And its important that we start to reopen. There will have to be some bit of experimentation, as different communities try to reopen. But the important thing is that people do it with good evidencebased medical guidance. And whether or not thats going to come from the White House Task force, the cdc, or just physicians and private entities providing that sort of consultation to businesses remains to be seen, but hopefully people will Pay Attention to the science and the evidence. You know, let me just follow up on that point, dr. Phillips. Because you talk about reopening happening in different ways, different jurisdictions. Just take a listen to hhs secretary alex azar today. There should not be onesizefitsall approaches to reopening, but reopen we must, because its not health versus the economy. Its actually health versus health. I want to take a look at whats happening in states that reopened earlier on. In texas right now, as ed lavendera reported, new cases are surging, while were seeing in georgia and florida, theres more of a downward trend. Dr. Phillips, do you think thats due to how they report numbers or Something Else . Theres a lot of variables there. Whether those results are secondary to the way people behave, the amount of personal responsibility theyre taking in continuing to socially distance and isolate the vulnerable members of the population, or if there is some skewing of the numbers, you know, we have seen that states like virginia and arizona have i wont say manipulated, but theyve padded the number of tests that they do by includinger seralogical datn order to drive down the number of positive cases. So if we can exclude that stuff, my hope is that people are taking that personal responsibility and as we reopen, theyre maintaining their distance and preventing going in public if theyre having symptoms of illness. Were going to see different cities and different communities have different results as we go forward. But theres so many variables, its difficult to pin one down. Ann, i want to ask you about the role of the cdc in all of this. Weve heard from other Health Experts that the cdc typically leads the nation and even the world in some cases, with guidance and with information and yet, theyve had a lessprominent role in communicating with the public throughout this pandemic. Do you think the cdcs role has been diminished during this pandemic . Absolutely. This cdc has been a leader in epidemic response, you know, for a very long time, since its inception. And the cdc has an incredible history of taking the lead, not only in the United States, but on a global stage. You know, weve seen in the last several ebola outbreaks in drc, the cdc taking a backseat. And this has really been an unfortunate situation. There is an incredible amount of expertise, an incredible amount of knowledge, real, practical, on the ground experience. And we are not benefiting from that experience here in the United States or globally right now. The cdc should be front and center. This is what they do. This is what theyre really good at. And i think it has been a major disservice to the United States and to the United States population not to have the cdc leading the charge. Ann rimoin and dr. James phillips, i really appreciate both of you. Thank you for being here. My pleasure. Policing during a pandemic. How tensions over masks and social distancing are leading to violent confrontations around the country, next. [horns honking] birthdays arent cancelled. Hope isnt quarantined. First words arent delayed. Caring isnt postponed. Courage isnt on hold. And love hasnt stopped. U. S. Bank thanks you for keeping all of our spirits strong. 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Joining us now is the former Boston Police commissioner, ed davis, as well as the former president of the National Organization of black Law Enforcement executives, cedric alexander. Commissioner davis, what are your thoughts on seeing how that arrest went down . Hi, ana, its always troubling to see a use of force, no matter how slight it is. And this one was fairly intense. So its a tough thing to watch, but i know that those Police Officers were told to enforce this rule. Im sure they would be very happy if they didnt have this responsibility, but it is their responsibility. And i also know that a small percentage of the population in your daytoday interactions as a Police Officer, will resist or challenge your authority. Sometimes its due to their reading of the constitution, sometimes its due to alcohol or Mental Health issues, but the problem is that the acts that the Police Officer have to resort to are always predicated upon the actions of the individual and i think thats what youre seeing here. Scedric, in response to that video, the mayor of new york announced a reset to the enforcement of the pandemic, and said the nypd will not take enforcement action for people failing to wear face covering. Is that the right call absolutely. Actually, that should have been the call right from the beginning, ana. You know, in a situation like this, where you have a city, like many cities across america, in particular new york, youre asking police to go out and do a very difficult task and putting them in a very difficult position. And i truly dont believe the mayor or any leadership should have asked them to go out and affect arrests, if they did or even allude to it in any type of way. This is a Community Police response in which, if anything, the police just should ask people to cooperate. Were here to help you save your life and save your familys life. But you want to avoid confrontation, because there is no way were going to arrest ourselves out of this pandemic. Well, we also know in new york, africanamericans and latinos have been disproportionately ticketed for social distancing violations. What sort of take a listraining officers be getting to correct that . One of the things thats clearly important, they have the training. They have been doing a lot of training over the last several years. Thats the nypd and other departments across the country. But this is very unprecedented. Of course, as we all know what were dealing with right now. So, i think it becomes incumbent upon the leadership in that city or any city in america to be able to say to the Police Officers, go out, ask people to cooperate with us, to help them help us help them, talk to your Community Leaders to help you be a part of that strategy. But then to go out and put hands on people because they dont social distance and wear a mask, because heres whats simply going to happen, ana. I ask someone to social distance. Yeah, okay, whatever, and they blow me off, and they may social distance, but as soon as the officer gets around the corner, theyre back talking again it, becomes a personal responsibility. And i think it becomes incumbent keep our Police Officers away from that kind of thing and allow them to go out and be good ambassadors for us and if you need to, give them masks to pass out to people who may not have masks. Lets take this as an opportunity to build relationships. Because here again, were not going to arrests ourselves out of this pandemic. Whats going to have to happen is going to take complete community cooperation. Im glad to see the mayor go in another direction. Were also hearing stories of people being stopped when doing the right thing, by wearing a mask. Take for instance what happened in illinois. A state rep says he was wearing a mask, he was wearing gloves while shopping when an officer came up to him and asked to see his receipt and i. D. Take a listen. He asked me some questions and eventually asked to see my receipt. He said, you know, people are using the covid virus to do a lot of bad things and to get away with them. Youve got a mask on, man, i cant see your face. It looks like you may be up to something. Commissioner, whats your reaction to that . I think thats rather ridiculous, actually. Theres not reports of largescale numbers of people who are committing robberies or larcenies who are masked. I think that theres a system in place to deal with that kind of behavior that occurs in police departments. And it really needs to be to kick in when you see this kind of issue. This is all new to everybody. Its its a tough thing to deal with. But a Police Officer that does Something Like that sthont get a pass, they should be held accountable for it. Gentlemen, thank you both. Really great to have you, cedric alexander, commissioner ed davis. Thank you, ana. Well be right back. Thank you. These are real people, not actors, whove got their eczema under control. With less eczema, you can show more skin. So roll up those sleeves. And help heal your skin from within with dupixent. Dupixent is the first treatment of its kind that continuously treats moderatetosevere eczema, or atopic dermatitis, even between flare ups. Dupixent is a biologic, and not a cream or steroid. Many people taking dupixent saw clear or almost clear skin, and, had significantly less itch. 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They are really trying to deal with what has been a spike in cases, even over the weekend, they had more than a dozen more people who died of covid19, more infections, but they make clear, they understand that they have one of the highest infection rates per capita in the country. But that is partly, ana, due to the fact that they have been testing more than anywhere else in america. Theyve tested about 11 of their population. So theyre being very aggressive with testing. They also are being very aggressive with stayathome measures. This im wearing a mask here, because if youre out in public, even if youre not around a ton of people, youre required to wear a mask in this nation, and also in the state of new mexico. We talked also to the president of the Navajo Nation, jonathan nas, and he said at one point he made an allcall for help. Who showed up . The university of california and doctors without borders. And so since we got hit hard here on the Navajo Nation, we did a callout to doctors and nurses. We dont have the best Health Care System here in the Navajo Nation. And i think were finding out that we dont have the best health care throughout the country because of this pandemic. But more so here in tribal communities. Reporter now, with an area of 27,000 square miles, people are spread out across three states, arizona, new mexico, and utah. You would think that it would be able, easy to selfdistance, to isolate, and a lot of people are very isolated. It takes them two or three hours to get, for example, to a Grocery Store or even a hospital. But what has happened here is 30 to 40 of the population does not have Running Water and many families live in generational housing, so they have several generations in one home. So if someone does get the virus, as someone that we met, they also spread it to their family members, because there is nowhere to isolate. And so, that is one of the reasons why this virus has spread so vigorously across this nation. They are trying to get it under control with very strict measures. And for the most part, their citizens are complying. Ana . Wow, that is really interesting, sara sidner, thank you for providing that insight into the community in the Navajo Nation. Thank you. Coming up, hitting the long drive for coronavirus relief. Golf legend, gregg norman, aka, the shark, joins us live to talk about his allin challenge after the break. Hold my pouch. Trust us. Us kids are ready to take things into our own hands. Dont think so . Hold my pouch. Unlike ordinary wmemory supplementsr . Neuriva has clinically proven ingredients that fuel 5 indicators of brain performance. Memory, focus, accuracy, learning, and concentration. Try neuriva for 30 days and see the difference. All right. Its time for our checkin on the allin challenge. Weve talked to kevin hart, dj khaled, meek mill and robert kraft about their fabulous prizes auctions off as part of this big charity auction, raising millions for coronavirus relief. And this week, we have a new special guest. Golf legend, greg norman, who joins us now along with michael ruben, the creator of this allin challenge and a partner for the philadelphia 76ers. So first, i just love this. Thank you, both, for what youre doing. Greg, tell us about your challenge and what inspired you to get involved. Well, first of all, what inspired me was people suffering through this covid19. And ana, thank you for having me on. Michael, how are you doing . Second of all, people like michael ruben, ive traveled the world, every corner of the globe and ive never seen a country as philanthropic as what the United States is. And any country that has a chance to give back, were all fortunate to a lot of degree, were healthy and successful. And mine was simple, just go play golf and introduce and have people come and join me to play a round of golf with me. Well shoot the gift of the gab, give lessons on the golf course and well have lunch at my favorite little restaurant after a round of golf. Its really an easy giveback to me and i congratulate michael on kicking this thing off and getting close to 43 million i think michael right now. In fact, lets get the update. Because this is becoming our sunday tradition here at cnn. What are the latest fundraising numbers and how do you not hit a ceiling . So were up to 44 million already. Weve had over 800,000 individuals that have donated for a chance to win so many incredible experiences. And one of the things thats been amazing is people like greg who originally took the challenge several weeks ago, and he did an auction that raised 75,000. And then there was a second person who said, i want to do that. A second time who said, uhl play a second round of golf. And a couple of days ago, he called back and said, you know what, not only did we raise 150,000 from two different people, i want to do a sweepstakes where someone can enter as little as 10 to play a round of golf and get lunch with me after. Greg, thank you so much for what youve done. Well raise hundreds of thousands of dollars from you. Other people have got in multiple times. Peyton manning got in twice and raised over 1 million. Bob mennery, a successful sports comedian went in three times to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars. Its been great for us to see. People want to say we want to help in whatever way possible. Thats what the allin challenge is about, go in and donate an incredible item or a once in a lifetime experience. Nothing is greater than playing a round of golf with greg, and thank you for doing it not once, not, twice, but three times. Thank you for what youre doing and offering there, and your generosity and time and money, of course. Golf courses are now starting to reopen a little bit, as states are loosening some of these stayathome restrictions. So im just curious, are there any modifications that you would like to see to make sure you stay safe while playing, as well as others who want to enjoy the game . Ana, i think the industry has done a phenomenal job by putting foam in cups and not touching the flag or not touching rakes. Im a big believer of not having rakes in bunkers anyway, because bunkers are hazards. But across the board, the golf industry have done a phenomenal job of managing this process. People want to get out and walk anyway. Whether they want to walk their dog or walk with a set of golf clubs. Its gate to see whats happening with the other pga players carry their bags and doing charitable events coming up this week and next week. So i think golf should be golf is leading the way around the world, in many ways. And im proud of our industry and im proud of what we can do to get people back out in a safe way. Absolutely. And michael, i want to ask you about the return to basketball, because this week, steph curry of the Golden State Warriors made an interesting point on yimmy kimmel live, which is that if there arent any spectators, fans might witness something they have never seen or heard before on television. Lets listen. This would take it to a whole another level. Just pure insanity of what we say on the court, what, you know, that trash talk that happens, even myself, taking part in it, but i think everybody from whether youre on the court, on the bench, all the nonsense, like, that might be something thats really appealing from a fan perspective to get real up close and personal, what we do on the court. Im curious, i want to tune in and see what that experience is like. Michael, what do you think that experience of this sport without spectators could mean in terms of what it would change in terms of how it would change the experience for fans. Look, first and foremost, were seeing that americans and people everywhere in the world are dying for sports to come back. And theyre so excited to have something that just gives them great entertainment. I think so many athletes are so excited about being able to play their sport again. And i think people need to do it as soon as they can do it in a safe way. And i think the reality is, its most likely going to start without fans in the stadiums first. And i think thats what many of the leagues are working toward. And i think thats going to be the right way to get this going. And i think youll have fans return when it can be safe. Everything is about keeping your players safe and the fans safe. And it is likely again that well start with the players without fans in the beginning. As far as the trash talking goes, theres always good trash talking that goes in any sport. Thats part of what makes it fun, and thats just guys who are the best at their craft and really just, you know, having fun with what they do. And the testosterone and the all of that going on. Real quick, if you will, feel free, greg. Jump in. Look, i think as an athlete myself, many, many years ago, i wanted to be miked up on the golf course. Its not a basketball course, of course. But i think with todays social media, to actually hear the players do the trash talking and talking to each other and setting up plays, i think with the social media we have today, with live stream, realtime connection, i think this is the way sports should go in the future. Imagine if youre listening to a nascar race car driver talking all the time or a formula one driver or a golfer speaking to his caddie from the first tee to the 14th. I think it would be a phenomenal connection for the viewer to be able to listen to exactly what the player is doing. A real intimate experience, i think. Greg norman, michael ruben, great to talk with you both. Thank you for what youre doing and well check back in next week. Look forward to it. Thanks so much. During this pandemic, people of all ages are finding ways to give back and make a difference. Heres Anderson Cooper with a look at two inspiring kids. In the wake of covid19 thank you. Reporter these boys realize that Senior Citizens in their communities could use a helping hand. This 12yearold expanded his nonprofits efforts, providing hundreds of bags filled with essential items to a local senior home. Im doing my part in helping. And i think like its everyones duty to help out where they can. I need your help to help others. Reporter this 7yearold used his 600 in savings to purchase food and supplies for seniors. 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