Know about, which i know of none, but if there is, i certainly would testify, obviously. I would also testify honestly about any other matter including any communications with the president. Its true that we spoke on the phone but those communications are political in nature, theyre benign and theres certainly no conspiracy with russia. Stone will appear in Court Tuesday on charges that include lying to congress about his efforts to get dirt on Hillary Clinton from russia wikileaks. Also President Trump tweeting roger stone didnt work for me anywhere near the election. Is he actually putting distance between himself and roger stone . Ana, with this president its probably actually both, the media and putting distance. But the president , as he has with previous people in his orbit who have been indicted by the special counsel, hes trying to create as much distance as possible from roger stone. The truth is that the president is partially right. Roger stone was fired from the campaign very early on, a few months after President Trump announced his candidacy in 2015. On the flip side, stone has always been the political operative who has taken credit for donald trump running for president , since he has been pushing him for years and years. On the other side as well, this indictment is really damaging, potentially, for the president himself since in that indictment it references those Senior Trump Campaign officials that stone was in contact with and then the fact that one of those Senior Trump Campaign officials was actually directed to ask roger stone about any future releases. So, of course, ana, that has been raising all these questions, who was this person who directed the Senior Member of the campaign to actually talk to stone and direct him to, you know, inquiry with wikileaks about when Additional Information would be coming. The president tries to assistance himself as much as he can in that tweet from roger stone. The Trump Administration formally lifted the sanctions on some russian companies, which are tied to a man who has a very close relationship with russian president putin. Whats going on and why are members of congress so upset about this . The man, oleg , ill get to him. They attempted to stop these sanctions on these companies from being lifted. It was a 36253 vote. A majority of republicans voted for this resolution but the republicancontrolled senate, it didnt get to that 60vote threshold to move the resolution to stop these sanctions to a full vote. Here we are, sunday night, the administration formally lifting these sanctions. There are three russian firms. They have links to oleg, a russian oligarch, closely tied to the kremlin as well as vladimir putin. The treasury department, for the past month or so, says now that he has given up majority ownership of these three firms, one of which is the worlds second largest aluminum producer that its pert nant and okay and necessary to lift these sanctions. But, of course, many members of congress some republicans included, theyve had major doubts about lifting these sanctions on these companies and, ana, how this all plays into the administration and whether, perhaps, the administration is going too easy on these companies that have this link to him and therefore the kremlin. And there have been questions as to whether he has sufficiently removed himself from controlling these companies. A lot of questions still lingering on capitol hill but the sanctions going away effectively tonight. Jessica schneider, thank you for that reporting. Two legal analysts, paul callan and Robert Muellers special assistant at the Justice Department. You wrote a piece entitled roger stone must have made mueller really angry. Thats your takeaway from the way the arrest went down on that Early Morning raid. Why do you see it that way . Why do you think the message was that mueller was trying to send . The raid itself was unusually aggressive in a white collar criminal case. Usually when the lawyers are speaking to the prosecutor, they arrange for a voluntary surrender when a decision is made to prosecute. Here you had flap jacketed agents raided his house in a predawn raid. I think it was because mueller was fed up with stone threatening a witness, randy cedico who suffered repeated threats from stone in rather graphic terms saying plead the fifth, invoking richard nixon, threatening even to take his dog, fluffy the dog, away. Maybe that pushed mueller over the edge. I dont know. But he wont tolerate tampering with a witness. And i think that might have been a motive for the aggressive tactics. Michael, do you share that perspective . Is that how you see it . Of course i agree with paul. Who wouldnt . I would add to it that he was also executing a search warrant. So it was not simply the arrest of stone but also the acquisition of additional evidence. And maybe they thought given how uncooperative stone has been that if they had if he had a lastminute chance to destroy something, he might. So they went in thats aggressive, as paul suggests, but not completely out of the ordinary. You heard that sound bite with roger stone this morning, suggesting he will cooperate with robert mueller. Is stone, michael, the kind of person mueller will can consider giving a deal . Does he have any credibility . He doesnt have much credibility with me because he keeps saying things like i didnt lie when the indictment alleges pretty transparent lies. But you dont know what it is that he actually knows that may be of interest to mueller. In his tv appearances this morning, which are in themselves baffling, why he would be on tv or why his lawyer would let him be on tv, he didnt say anything that seemed to say that he had knowledge about anything that would be of interest to mueller. He said repeatedly, sure, i would talk about things but i didnt know anything. Nobody i know did anything bad so they want to hear that, ill tell them that. They dont need him to appear in a grand jury to say that. He has already said that in public. Im not sure what he has got to offer. Ana, he also hedges and says but i would never say anything damaging to the president. So hes holding the card, hoping that the president will pardon him. Trying to have it both ways . Yes, he is. And i dont think mueller will want to put somebody in front of a jury under oath who is trying to play both sides of the truth question and in the end a jury would view stone as not believable, whatever he says. Not a good witness for the special prosecutor. New reporting tonight, New York Times now reporting stunning details from Chris Christies new book. It says as mr. Kushner tucked into his typical salad, mr. Christie wrote, the president said to him the russia thing is all over now because i fired flynn. He started laughing and the president asked why. Sir, i said, the russia thing is far from over, christie wrote. Mr. Trump responded what do you mean . Flynn met with the russians. That was the problem. I fired him. Its over. Mr. Kushner added, thats right, firing flynn ends the whole russia thing. Paul . The whole set of interviews with christie is another thing. He is a former u. S. Attorney and knew that the Justice Department was actively investigating the russian connection to the election and it was foolish and naive to think that firing flynn would put an end to the entire investigation. Matter of fact, we all know, of course, that he told comey later on theres some dispute about it on the president s side to go easy on flynn. So flynn being cast off as the evil villain of the russian connection was never going to be an end to the russia probe and, of course, that was something that christie knew. But this is a conversation that christie was a part of, these comments, they would have been made, right, before the special counsel was appointed and prior to firing former fbi director james comey. Comey said he was asked if he could see his way to letting the flynn issue go. What does it say to you, michael, that Chris Christie is saying that the president thought firing flynn ends the whole russia thing . Its a level of ignorance, of the way the criminal justice process works or its wishful thinking, but the notion that firing comey or firing flynn or firing anybody in the runup to the appointment of mueller was going to do anything other than add a log to the fire is baffling. And i think christie is laughing at the observations of kushner and the president speak to that incredulity, that they could believe that was the outcome of this firing. Do you think Chris Christie is now a witness in Robert Muellers probe . Well, you know, im not sure what he if that statement its already written down. I dont know what mueller needs more from him. But im not sure what that speaks to in terms of the president s culpability or jareds culpability. I think it speaks more to their naivety rather than their criminal nature. Thanks for your expertise. Senator Kamala Harris formally kicks off her campaign for 2020. With a crowded democratic field what does she need to do to stand out . And keeping the door open, new reporting that Hillary Clinton may have her eye on a third president ial run. To be nobody but yourself in a world which is doing its best to make you everybody else. Means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. 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Joining us to discuss, cnn political analyst and chief Political Correspondent for esquire, ryan lizza and the chicago sun times, lynn sweet. Can she stand out in such a crowd field . Its going to be hard to. She has to shes been getting away with publicity in the runup and certainly shes going to be on cnn and all that helps, but she is not all that well known throughout the nation. We focus on it because, well, frankly, were paid to pay attention. We could go, you know, downtown chicago, indianapolis, more important des moines or any city in new hampshire, people have to get to know the many people. And i think theres so many people there, its hard to differentiate yourself. Theyre all democrats. Their policy proposals are not going to be all that different, if they ever evolved to reality in congress. Thats why right now the introductions, the biographies, her role as a prosecutor is something that will be looked at closely. These are people who are to the electorate and the whole personality has to be filled in. Lets talk about somebody, ryan, the nation already knows well. We have new reporting that Hillary Clinton is telling people shes not closing the doors on this idea of running again in 2020. Ryan, do you think this is all talk or do you think she really may get into this race . This is a little bit of a head scratcher because the last two times she ran, she was extremely deliberate. She kind of froze the whole field in place before she made her decision. And she sent a lot of signals to potential competitors, to donors, to activists to wait on her decision before you sign up with another candidate. She has not done that at all this time. In fact, some of the best talents from her previous two teams have already signed up with other candidates. Shes not done any of the signaling to let people know they should wait. So i would be very, very surprised if she jumped in. The last two times, in 08 and 16, everyone waited for her. Nobody is doing that this time and she hasnt done any of the prep work to do it. So i would be surprised. Lets switch gears. Lets switch gears here, lynn. You were among a group of journalists at a lunch Briefing Held by Speaker Nancy Pelosi and you write this. Since pelosi took the gflt avel on january 3rd, she has demonstrated she is trumps first effective candidate, the leader who simply said no to him. He is skeptical of accepting a deal of a temporary agreement on this shutdown to reopen government before that expires february 15th, saying he personally gives it less than a 50 50 chance. Is his skepticism a public response to being publicly declared to have lost to nancy pelosi . It keeps him in play. One other thing Speaker Pelosi said at this gathering. She said it as she was leaving. There were flowers on the table and she said President Trump could look at these flowers and he would say this is a wall. And that is an insight into the president. She doesnt want to do anything to embarrass trump. She wants a deal that does not include a wall and probably will add protections for dreamers. Democrats want more Border Security. They want to reinforce barriers where they exist. He wants to call it a wall, fine. Let him say it. Lynn, why dont you take a breath . Drink some water. I think lynn is exactly right about this, ana. One of the curious parts of this kind of crazy debate over the wall is that through all the drama of the shutdown and through all the drama of trump trying in repeated failed negotiations to get his wall, he no longer really wants a wall. If you listen to the last few things he said, it is a lot closer to the traditional deal that democrats and republicans have talked about. That is, Border Security. That is defined in a sort of package, right . Its fencing in some places and you can quibble about what the fence looks like. Its drones. Its beefedup security. Its a whole package of security measures. He is pretty close to that right now, even though whatever he gets he will call a wall. We dont really know on the other side, how far are democrats what are democrats really looking for . Right. What are they reaching for . Yeah. And so and lynn brought up the idea maybe its protection for dreamers. He addressed that. The president addressed that in this new wall street journal interview, if he would agree to citizenship for dreamers in exchange for border wall funding and the president said, quote, i doubt it. So if hes not prepared to make a big bigg deal and cant possibly allow another shutdown with his declining poll numbers, is this just an indication that its either his way or a National Emergency . I would think he changes his mind so much, you just dont know. The other thing that may happen as part of this committee, this Conference Committee is they may write into law that you cant do shutdowns anymore so hes going to lose this leverage one way or another, at least as long as hes president. They would say if we dont have a deal, we just continue with the budget and the spending that we have. You know, im glad the wall street journal got the interview. Its interesting he said it. Does anyone really think theres any credibility as to whatever marker President Trump puts down at this point . He has agreed to stuff on this deal, then he yanks it. Who knows what to think until. Thats why he lost so much leverage. He may have to agree to something and call it a wall, call it a day and move on. Or call it peaches, as they said in the past. Ryan, quickly. Still threatening to use an emergency declaration. If he does that, absent a deal, that will be challenged in the courts and the courts will have the last word on that. Its not over yet. 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You know, so yeah, were happy its over but at what cost . Both me and my wife are federal employees. I was furloughed. She was working without pay. So we went a month without any sort of income or any sort of knowing whats going to happen next, which kind of puts your life on hold. The plight of workers left unpaid during the Government Shutdown has shed light on a painful truth here in america that goes well beyond any shortterm battle between President Trump and house Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Its the reality playing out through these government workers who are one missed paycheck away from financial disaster. When you look at wall street stock prices are soaring, dow, nasd nasdaq, s p 500 showing growth, going up, up, up in recent years and the job market appears upbeat, u. S. Hiring surged in december and the Unemployment Rate remains low but here is whats not headed in the right direction, your wages. When compared to inflation, real wages have actually been flat or going down. The point is very simple. You dont need an mba to grasp it. This should be a great, strong, robust economy and yet so many middle class americans are struggling. Weve seen minimum wage workers trying to get 15 per hour. Youve been told to accept the reality of the socalled reality but the Government Shutdown has let us see the plight of even those with government jobs that come with benefits and thats where i began my conversation earlier with robert reich, adviser to a number of democratic president s. He is also the author of saving capitalism for the many, not the few. Robert, thanks for being with us. For just a minute, lets forget pelosi, forget about President Trump. What does the situation tell us about americas middle class, even the government workers are one missed paycheck away from disaster at a time when the numbers say so many people should be prospering. Well, it tells us that prosperity is not broadly shared in this country, even though the economy on paper looks very good and also it looks like the United States overall in terms of the economy is doing gang busters. Actually, averageworking people are not doing so well. Job security is a thing of the past and 78 of American Workers, ana, 78 , are living paycheck to paycheck. They dont have any savings. They certainly dont have even 500 for an emergency. This kind of thin ice that American Workers are skating on is a big, big social problem. Its a political problem. Most of all its a moral problem. Why should so many people in the richest economy in the world be so close to poverty . Let me read a tweet from earlier this week. I urged federal workers who continue to toil without pay to stop working and those who are furloughed to picket their workplaces. Trumps disregard for all of you and the Public Welfare must end. Does this threeweek threat deadline change their mind or should those federal workers dig in and demand more . The federal workers should not only have our appreciation for working for five weeks without pay, 420,000 of them, and the rest of them furloughed and not given any pay. Yes, we owe them a great death debt of service and gratitude. I would not be surprised if this starts again if a lot of federal workers said im not going to take it anymore. Im either going to leave the federal Civil Service or i am going to call in sick. I think a lot of air Traffic Controllers did that. And that actually shut down the shutdown. That ended the shutdown when that started. Hours after air Traffic Controllers in broad numbers and not in an organized way. Im not suggesting that the union organized them to do this but they called in sick. Many of them didnt have much choice and i think that brought the shutdown to an end. I want to switch gears quickly in the time that i have left. The issue of a wealth tax thats come up with a number of democrats. Alexandria ocasiacortez, to fund a Climate Change plan and senator Elizabeth Warren campaigning for 2020, shes throwing out this proposal, new tax on those whose net worth is 50 million or more. Do you want to see your party get firmly behind these significant tax increases for the very rich to reverse the widening wealth gap . Absolutely. Under dwight d. Eisenhower, republican dwight d. Eisenhower, president , the marginal tax on the very wealthy was 91 . And even with all of the tax credits and deductions are figured in, the very wealthy were paying at least at the margin in terms of their very highest incomes, over 50 . And that is fair. We have lost sight of that degree of fairness. And we cant afford social security, medicare, the military. We cant afford any of the things we are doing for much longer without some sort of a recognition that the very rich, who have never been as rich, since at least the 1890s relative to the rest of the country, pay their fair share. What kind of infusion would that mean for the economy if people making more than 50 million or had a net worth of more than 50 million were taxed at 2 , as shes proposing and people making over 1 billion taxed an additional 1 . That would probably be in the range to 6 to 9 billion a year. Some estimates put it 12 to 15 billion a year. Whatever it is, it does mean a huge amount of money to bring down the federal debt and also to do the kind of investments in infrastructure, education, basic research that we need to do to make sure the American Workforce does actually prosper in this new world economy. And were not making them. And worry living off investments made in the 1950s and 60s. Robert reich, good to have you with us. Thank you so much. Thanks. Good to see you. The power of the hispanic vote, a new comment from veteran anchor tom brokaw today is causing fresh hurt. I also happen to believe that the hispanics should work harder to assimilation. Thats one thing ive been saying a long time. They ought not to be codified in their communities but make sure all their kids are learning to speak english and that they feel comfortable in the communities and thats going to take outreach on both sides, frankly. Tom brokaw is responding again tonight to the backlash from those comments. Well have that for you next live in the cnn newsroom. A rig and shakin me up so applebees all you can eat is back. Now with shrimp. Now thats eatin good in the neighborhood. Woman 1 i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. Man 1 mine. Caused liver damage. Vo epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. Vo whatever your type, ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. Woman 2 i had the common type. Man 2 mine was rare. 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Ive been saying that for a long time, that they ought not to be just codified in their communities, but making sure their kids are learn iing to spk english and they feel can comfortable in the communities and thats going to take outreach on both sides, frankly. I played those comments for Maria Cardona and keith boykin. Here is marias reaction. My reaction is that hes a little out of touch. I love him and i will give him a pass because hes probably not up to speed as to where things are today and age especially with young latinos in this country and i think both keith and you and, ana, know very well that latinos assimilate incredibly well. In fact, most latino children speak english better than a lot of nativeborn americans and as an immigrant from colombia myself and as somebody who is raising two latino children, we speak spanish at home predominantly, but they speak better english than a lot of my englishspeaking friends and so what hes saying is absolutely not true. Latinos absolutely assimilate. There might be some out there, meaning grandmothers, latino grandmothers who dont speak english but that is because of their age and because they came here probably older and just did not have either the interest or the need to really learn how to speak english. But what tom brokaw said is just not true. A lot of lattenos, most latinos do assimilate incredibly well. Second generation, a lot of them predominantly speak english, predominantly get their news from english language sources but what i love about them as well is they are incredibly proud of their heritage and they want to if they dont know spanish, they want to learn it. If they are bilingual, they want to continue to be bilingual and consume news in spanish. It is a beautiful diverse latinos that is assimilating into a beautiful country called america. Brokaw is following up in a series of tweets. He says this, quote, i feel terrible that part of my comment s on hispanics offended members of that culture. To documenting the many contributions of hispanics in all parts of our culture i worked hard to knock down false stereotypes. In my final comment in meet the press i said all sides have to work harder to finding common ground, which i strongly believe. Dialogue, not division. The government is open for business again but the president still wants his border wall. So, is it worth it . Cnn goes deep underground to see how drug smugglers are getting creative. World which is doingt to make you everybody else. Means to fight the hardest battle, which any human being can fight and never stop. Does this sound dismal . It isnt. Its the most wonderful life on earth. Ensure max protein. To give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you dont. straining ill take that. cheers 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. Ensure max protein. 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This wall is the International Borderline. This black patch you see is an old tunnel that was used by smugglers. Mexican authorities have sealed it off. This is what it looks like under ground here. In the last month, mexican authorities have discovered three new tunnels in this border city, all designed to reach underneath the border wall that already exists here and pop up north of the border. The most recent tunnel discovered here in nogales emptied out into this area you see behind me but it actually started deeper inside the city, threequarters a mile away from where were standing right now. There were two drug tunnels right here. Reporter theyve spent decades patroling the borderlands of Santa Cruz County and have seen organized crime cartels adapt to every new evolution of Border Security. We have the worlds record as far as tunnels are concerned. More than 00 tunnels have been discovered in nogales. No buffer zone. The more difficult you make it for them, the more creative theyre going to be. Thats a lot of tunnels. That is a lot of tunnels. At some point you wonder if theres going to be a huge sink hole this side of the border. As the Trump Administration pushes to expand the existing border walls, border authorities predict this will force cartels to expand their underground operations. Were talking about tunnels, its linked to the dynamics and economics of the drug trade. Were going to continue to see drug traffickers using tunnels, corruption, drones, catapults, anything else to get contraband across that border as long as theres that money to be made there. Detecting tunnel construction is you could be looking into mexico and never know that someone is building a tunnel right under your feet. Yes. Border patrol Operations Officer took us inside a border tunnel in california. Hes part of a team known as the item rats. By hand . Its basically almost exclusively by hand. In a new york courtroom in the trial of the former kingpin, they have detiletailed how cocaine and weapons have been smuggled through tunnels. But always more than one way to get through a border wall. Lieutenant cast tee owe says a wall alone wont stop it. Its a cat and mouse game. We would think that we were on top of the game and all of a sudden Something Else popped up. It never ends. According to customs here in the United States, since 1991990 1990 203 border tunnels have been discovered. This really speaks to one of the things that we have heard repeatedly inside that trial of el chapo in new york were the place close to him described how the cartels continue b to adapt to whatever Border Security changes are made on the northern side of this u. S. mexico border and they will continue to do that. They have used trains, ports of entry and continue to adapt to whatever changes are made on this side. Coming up, the tongue twisting names of the 2020 race. Kamala harris. 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