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Moment but first of all, let me tell you where i am. This is the very landing area in order to get to Ketron Island where the 29yearold crashed that plane. Now, to give you an idea of how sparsely populated that is, the last census said theres only 17 residents living there. We now know theres dozens of investigators at that site. They would have left from here in order to get there. It is about a 10 minute ferry ride. The first as well as the data recorder. Ultimately, what evidence they could yield . We dont know. Of course, we do have a lot of conversation between air Traffic Control and the horizon employee. As for the pilot himself, obviously, he went through extensive needs means to get that. He had to taxi it and take off. Here, theres a lot of questions how this person who seemingly had no fliying experience was able to get that aircraft airborne. He played a lot of video games. Maybe that gave him the wherewithal to do this but still, so many questions as to how he got that airplane in the sky. Well try to get those answers. Experts to understand more about this bizarre and ultimately tragic plane crash. Cnns david soucie and Lieutenant Colonel rick francona. Dave soucie, how was this guy able to get into the commercial airliner . It was not a small prop plane and able to just take off. Heres the thing thats odd to me, ana, the ceo said, yes, it was his job and authorized to be there but way out of protocol in that you never ever tow an aircraft unless theres two people involved. So the fact he was able to get the tow hooked up, aircraft out there and move it out there because he has to call and ask for clearance and thats usually what the second person does. So they need to really look at their process and procedures and see what fell through the crack here because this should not have happened. This is in the top ten busiest airports in the country at the very least. Colonel francona, this we now know ended with one person who died. The person who was in the plane. It could have been so much worse. Absolutely. Thats why it was so critical to get the fighters into the area as fast as possible. They came from portland international. There was an International Guard base there and they scrambled these two fighters. They went on to get up to the area. Its 100 miles away. They closed that in a few minutes and once in the area, they had to assess just how potentially dangerous this was. No one knew what this flyer had in mind. Was he going to turn that aircraft toward Downtown Seattle . Was he going to go after a Sports Stadium . The space needle . A whole lot of things these guys didnt know. So they had to get up there quickly and assess the situation. Fortunately, it didnt require any action on the part of the military. They just kept him away from Populated Areas and it appears that he either had an accident or took his own life. We do know he was in communication because we played some of the audio from the air Traffic Control radio signal. Did this guy have any chance of landing this plane safely . Do you think they would have been able to talk him through it . Everybody said were surprised he was able to take it off. Its a twin engine aircraft. You have to coordinate the engines through signal line thrust. So, and he was able to fly a barrel roll, recover from that loop and do a turn. I think some of the audio said he was having one problem with an engine. I think he may have run out of gas. He might have been able to get it down on the ground. He did more than anybody thought he could do. David, who is responsible for securing these planes and typically, how secure are they . Oddly enough, its the Ground Service agent himself thats responsible for securing the airplane and so thats where the breakdown is here, but once again, even that Ground Service agent has to have two people present at all times so the fact he was out there by himself, towing the aircraft by himself and disconnecting the tow bar and then moving the tractor out of the way to get it and move, the fact it happened without even being noticed by anyone on the ground, service crew, its phenomenal to me. Thats such an oversight and i think somebody got very complacent about their jobs if they werent watching him do that and raising the right questions. Based on what we heard at that press conference, it sounds like he wasnt necessarily out of place. And so there Wasnt An Automatic red flag per se. However, i wonder, are there alarm systems set up inside these aircraft. Is there a key he would have had to use in order to turn it on . How did he know where to begin when it comes to controls and would there have been barriers in place for somebody like him wanting to get behind the controls . No, there really isnt. Theres no key. Other than to the door. And it can be secured there but during an operation, the aircraft on the live tarmac, it would not be locked. It would be open. So anyone with the Ground Clearance could get on board that aircraft and move it and even fly it. But theres many, many layers that still go on that we dont really have time to get into, but there had to be three different layers of security that were breached here and listening to the ceo, hes not mentioning those. He is saying he had the right to be there. Sure, he had the right to be there but the fact what he was doing there, theres two other levels of security of people watching and checking and seeing where his id is and where he is and Whats Going On in the tarmac. All of that should have been noticed from air Traffic Control all the way down to the ground operators themselves. When we talk about the response, colonel, you mention the f15 jets that were scrambles. We know they were armed but didnt interfere in that way. They let things play out. Why do you think that was the case . Nobody wants to shoot down an unarmed civilian airliner. You want to solve these problems with as little violence or damage as possible. As long as he was not presenting a risk to other people, they were willing to give him the time he needed or the air Traffic Controllers time they needed to get him to comply with their direction. So the two pilots, the two f15 pilots were there as a safety measure. Had things gone worse though, they were prepared to use those weapons. The next step would have been to get in front of him and deploy some flares to get him to comply. Do you think, colonel, that radio what we heard in terms of their communication made a big difference, at least the slight idea. Maybe his motive that it wasnt a terrorist behind the controls . I. I listened to the air Traffic Control tapes and these controllers did a good job. Trying to talk this guy down and reason him rather than threatening him and let him make the decision. I think they handled that rather well and assessed he wasnt a threat to civilian areas. If you listen to the conversation, he said, no, i dont want to go to mccord field. Kro i dont want to get involved in that and said, move you away from the airport so you dont disrupt our operations. He said, i dont want to destroy everybodys day. He did exhibit some rationale that he wasnt going to threaten anyone except himself. Rick francona and david soucie, thank you both for being with us. Thank you, ana. Unbelievable moment, dramatic Dash Cam Video. Nearly loses his life. Got much more to show you, how this unfolded, plus, change in charlottesville. How last years violence changed the National Conversation on race. And the giuliani factor. The president s attorney making a slew of tv and radio appearances this week. Whats his strategy . Mark geragos joins us to discuss. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. The latest news and information from around the world with host Ana Cabrera. Include temporary numbness, discomfort,and swelling. Ask your doctor if coolsculpting is right for you and visit coolsculpting. Com today for your chance to win a free treatment. Anncr as you grow older, your brain naturally begins to change which may cause trouble with recall. Learning from him is great. When i can keep up anncr thankfully, prevagen helps your brain and improves memory. Dads got all the answers. Anncr prevagen is now the numberoneselling brain Health Supplement in drug stores nationwide. She outsmarts me every single time. Checkmate you wanna play again . 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Big developments rocking the political world today. Congressman Chris Collins now pulling out of his race for reelection as he fights Insider Trading charges. The new york republican initially said he would maintain his campaign but today, a change of heart. Hes announced hes suspending it in, quote, the best interest of his constituents, party and President Trumps agenda. The first member of congress, by the way, to endorse President Trump for presidency. If convicted on all charges for allegedly tipping off his son about a biotech firm, could face up to 150 years in prison. Far right Conspiracy Theorists alex jones is banned from facebook and youtube. Twitter defends him even though he broke the rules. Live in the cnn newsroom. Of course i have ever since i started renting from national. Because national lets me lose the wait at the counter. And choose any car in the aisle. And i dont wait when i return, thanks to drop go. At national, i can lose the wait. And keep it off. Looking good, patrick. I know. vo go national. Go like a pro. Our new, hot, fresh breakfast will get you the readiest. buzzer sound holiday inn express. Tweeted. He writes, quote, The Big Story that the Fake News Media refuses to report is kristofer steels meeting with bruce and his beautiful wife nelly. It was fusion gps that hired steel to write the dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the dnc. Do you believe Word Profusion and never seen anything so rigged in my life. Missing in action and all starting to be revealed, not pretty. Ig reports soon, witch hunt. There are a number of claims in these tweets to be fact checked. Notably, that bruce orr does continue to work at the Attorney Generals office, however, hes been devoted with the department of justice. Further, the president continues and his surrogates continue to argue this dossier, not fully discredited, some parts have been substantiated, he argues that that dossier was the basis of the Russian Investigation and we know because of the release of dod doj documents it was this told british officials the Trump Campaign promised dirt on hillary clinton. And again, plenty to fact check in these tweets but of course, the president wants the drive up the base as he has in the past to draw into session the legitimacy of the russia investigation. Facts, facts, facts. Boris sanchez, thank you. The president also tweeting about charlottesville. Its one Year Anniversary of the deadly violence that erupted. The riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to all americans. Right now, the entire state of virginia is under a state of emergency because of this anniversary. Lets get right to correspondent Kaylee Hartung in charlottesville. We know there are events planned there. Kaylee, how are Police Planning to keep the peace . Reporter well, ana, so much of the violence that we saw in charlottesville last year right here in these downtown streets, the Downtown Mall Area now secured by a perimeter. Metal and concrete barricades stopping any vehicles from crossing the downtown streets. Entry points for pedestrians just two of them, just like this one behind me where bags are surged and the implements of riot are taken. Weve been told that a couple of cans of Aerosol Spray and Brass Knuckles have been taken but no one denied entry on to the downtown mall. Everyone i have spoken with today said their purpose for coming down here is to heal. Last summer, charlottesville became a battleground. Erupted between white supremacist and protesters. Terror in virginia. One person is dead. One year later, a new team of officials are vowing not to let history repeat itself. We have to start owning that we did not live up to our training. We didnt live up to our oath but we have the opportunity to recover and get it right. Reporter after a sharply critical report placed blame on the Charlottesville Police department, failed to contain the violence and protect the public. This is not a Law Enforcement event. This is a Public Safety endeavor. Chief al thomas retired. Michelle bracny took over two months ago. I did walk in with my eyes wide open, but i didnt really the extent and the breadth and width of what the responsibilities would be because i had not really had the opportunity to hear how hurt this community was and still hadnt healed. The first images of hate saw in charlottesville came from here. The night before the planned and permitted altright rally. Went to the University Of Virginia Campus Wielding tiki torches. The visual was startling but not the worst wed see. Violence in this intersection adds police looked on just outside the park where general robert e. Lees statue stands. Socalled Alt Right Activists chanting racist slogans with confederate flags with antiracist counterprotesters and the day turned deadly. This street where James Alex Fields Junior allegedly barrelled into a group of counterprotesters. Heather hire killed in the attack. 35 others injured. The driver, a nazi sympathizer, tried for murder and federal hate crimes. There was anger and outrage in reaction not only to the violence but the hateful rhetoric that was openly on display here. I have a message to all the white supremacists and nazis who came into charlottesville today. Our message is plain and simple. You are not wanted in this great commonwealth. Shame on you. And then, very fine both, sides. The refusal to condemn in the immediate aftermath further inflamed the National Conversation. When you think about the flash point that charlottesville was in this country for the dialogue around race relations, where do you think we are one year later . So, i dont know if we as a city or even as a nation has had that real honest dialogue about equities and in terms of really moving the needle forward, im not sure that weve actually instituted policies, procedures or even support that could help move the conversation beyond a conversation. And so the conversation continues this weekend. As the second Unite The Right rally organizes in the nations capital. Here in charlottesville, the focus will be on continued healing and chief bracny said theres an all encompassing plan for whatever and whoever the weekend may bring. Reporter this Law Enforcement presence in Downtown Charlottesville as well as this secure perimeter will be in place until monday morning and its being met with mixed reaction from members of this community, ana. Some say they feel its an overcorrection from the failures of a year ago, others say they welcome it and they welcome the inconvenience to feel the safety they do here. Better safe than sorry. Chilling to remember those events a year ago. Kaylee hartung, thank you so much. Far right conspiracy theorist alex jones now banned on facebook, youtube, apple and spotify for breaking the rules. But jones can keep tweeting for now. The founder of infowars used Social Media Platforms to spread fake conspiracy theories. Twitter finally admitted jones and info wars have violated the look on his twitter account and kind of look at it and compare it to the Terms Of Service and we found multiple violations in the Terms Of Service from alex jones and infowars, content that degraded muslims, degraded members of the gay and transgender community, engaging harassments of individuals, so on, so forth. A lot of violations. And so yesterday, finally twitter got back to us and they now admit contrary to what jack dorsey, the ceo said on tuesday, alex jones has violated their Terms Of Service, but theyre not going to take any action. At least for the time being. Did they explain why . I mean, theyre just letting this go . I think thats the question many people are confused about, right . They promised action earlier in the week if there were violations and now admit there are violations, but theyre not taking any meaningful action. I think theyre waiting for more violations possibly but the Company Wont Say exactly how many violations it would take for them to suspend or move alex jones accounts from the platform. In the meantime, you did see that the videos, you had flagged that had violations, those were removed . Immediately after we published our story, all the tweets that were included in our report suddenly vanished from twitter. Twitter spokesperson said they didnt remove the content but later found it removed because of violations but alex jones said on friday he had instructed his staff to remove it preemptively. I think hes really worried, ana, that hes going to lose twitter and its his last portal into the main conversation because hes been suspended from apple, youtube, and facebook. So really, i think, is worried hes going to lose twitter. He told the staff to immediately delete the tweets and they did. He took action on twitter, not so much. Well see where this goes. Oliver dar see, thank you. Rudy giulianis september deadline isnt a priority for him. So what was giulianis strategy there . Well discuss next. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. Ozempic® vo people with Type 2 Diabetes are excited about the potential of onceweekly ozempic®. In a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. 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There is no rule or custom that requires mueller to end the investigation before Midterm Elections in november and other investigations similar to muellers have taken place during both midterm and president ial elections. Both the iran contra and whitewater investigations lasted nearly 7 years. Muellers investigation lasted over a year at this point. So what exactly is giuliani doing by setting arbitrary deadlines In The Name Of Doj rules that dont exist . To help answer that question, i want to bring in high Profile Defense attorney mark geragos. Always good to see you. Extra treat to have you here in new york with me. Long pants. Shorts. You get that if you follow mark on twitter. What do you think giuliani is doing here . Is he really trying to give a deadline to mueller . Yes, he is. I think what hes trying to do is theres a lot of fencing going on. People have to understand, theres a political component but a criminal Defense Component and they know that mueller is closing in on them. Not only in your setup piece talking about credico but miller, one of the chiefs of staff. They know roger stone is literally in the cross hairs, is about to get, if not, if they havent already done it under seal, some kind of an indictment. They want to end this thing. Why do they care if roger stone gets indicted . The president said, i dont have anything to do with it. Hes friends with roger stone, but it doesnt impact him. A selfproclaimed dirty trickster. Theyve got the Manafort Trial Going On and hope to convict manafort. They, meaning mueller. Hell be facing the rest of his life in a federal prison. They want, at the same time, but ill tell you, if manafort is acquitted, its very likely that at that point, trump will use that as kind of the backdrop for, im ending this investigation. Im done with this investigation. Theres nothing there. Yeah. Hes going to, exactly, and i think thats why theyre just waiting for this to unfold. They had been, theyve gotten more brave as the judge in that case, in manaforts trial has made increasingly skeptical comments about the prosecution in that case. I mean, its been a battle. Theyre not exactly waiting for the trial to unfold though. Because just today, in fact, within the last hour, this is what trump tweets. Hes calling the Attorney General Jeff Sessions scared stiff and missing in action. It doesnt sound like somebody whos being patient. That sounds like hes applying pressure. I think if he feels like a verdict comes in this week, hell take action. Thats my, i think trump will do something. I dont think theyre going to wait, sit back and let them indict more people and try to get somebody to roll. I also dont think, given everything going on con currently with this investigation with the meeting at trump tower, i dont think theyre going to wait and see if don jr. Gets indicted either. I think he understands at this point, this is a Death Grip Type War and hes not going to let them win it. Theres been all the talk about a perjury trap, right . And whether the president will Sit Down With Mueller and Rudy Giuliani said, well, we will as long as its not a perjury trap. Listen to this. The reality is he doesnt need to ask a single question on obstruction. He has all the answers. Theyre not going to change. The president not going to change his testimony. So stop the nonsense. You are trying to trap him into perjury because you dont have a case. Mark, quickly, is there a such thing as a perjury trap . There is, thats a real deal. Thats something you have to worry about. Im one of the few people whos ever had not one but two clients who have gone to federal prison rather than testify. Susan mcdougal in the Whitewater Case because they both feared they were going to get charged with perjury. They felt like the prosecution had a script and if you didnt sing along with that or if you didnt read from their script that you were going to get into a perjury trap. As a criminal defense lawyer, thats something to be concerned about. Why put your client in harms way . It almost is the situation where you find somebody like rick gates who was manaforts partner who pled to a false statements. It wasnt the original crime. It was trying to cover it up and lying after. It could be false statements, a perjury. Its never something you would let your client go in willingly and especially risk. Thank you, mark geragos, good to see you. According to female vote, we traveled to pennsylvania to talk a crucial block of swing state voters. Well bring you their interview live in the cnn newsroom. This is not a screensaver. This is the destruction of a cancer cell by the bodys own immune system, thanks to medicine that didnt exist until now. And today can save your life. For me, chantix worked. 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Listen to whats on their minds as they talk about what issues are important to them with the Midterm Elections right around the corner. A show of hands, who plans to vote in the Midterm Election . Show of hands if youre voting for republican candidates. Show of hands if youre voting for democratic candidates. You still are making up your mind . There has been a huge focus in this years election on courting the suburban female vote. What do you make of that . I dont think theyre actually doing it. I dont think so either. What is important to you . Safety of children. Gun safety, i dont believe its a gun issue. I believe its a safety of our children and a safety of our schools issue. Infrastructure. I look around at the crumbling roads that i drive on every day. I see you nodding your head and i know politically affiliated on different sides. Right, but theyre all common issues. We all want our kids to be safe in their schools. We all Want Colleges to prepare our students to get jobs when they graduate. Danielle, youre a college student. What is the single Biggest Issue thats influencing your vote . For me, as a business student, definitely the economy. Need less regulations, less unnecessary spending from the government, lower taxes on, you know, the middle class. What speaks to, you june . I think the economy. I think if we could get a strong economy, and one way of doing that would be the infrastructure. My main issue is prevention of gun violence. My oldest little girl is 4. 5, going into prek. I feel i should not be receiving emails regarding my schools, you know, active shooter policies. I think thats atrocious. Its not okay. On a scale of 1 to 10, one being barely and 10 being its everything, how big is trump weighing into the i like many of his policies. And i hope that people in congress can help him to push those policies through, so ill say a nine. Yeah, i definitely dont want to vote for someone who campaigns on being of an obstructionist and i wont let the president do anything he wants. To probably an eight. I like trump very much. So i would probably aa nine. Im on the other side of the spectrum where i despise him. Everything he has done to date i am ifbl completely morally and ethically opposed to me it is motivating me ten to vote but because of opposite reasons. I heartily agree with that statement. I would say nine. Actually back in 2016 i was registered a republican. And i voted in the primary for john kasich. And i believe trump dont represent i believe at the core a republican party. What is it that bothers you the most. His behavior. I could talk about it for a very long time. I have probably quite the laundry list. Mocking the disabled. Calling people racist. Its everything. Whether what you say matters. Dwror words and actions matter. Does this president s rhetoric bother you as trump voters as republicans . Well we dont have to call people names and stuff. I mean that to me is bullying and stuff on a playground. So is it okay for this president , the current president to use the kind of language that he does, whether its on twitter or on tv . I am not here to defend some of the tweets the president has made. I think he shouldnt tweet. But i think fls a big difference between what the president says and what he does. What do you make of his twitter attacks against foreign leaders, against people of color, against athletes, against the media, against the Justice Department . I mean, i think all the tweets should be looked at on a case by case basis. You know, he did say he did put comments towards kim jong un. But then they had a meeting. And that was a bigger deal than the tweets. So youre willing to overlook those. I think thats not, you know, whats hurting america the most right now are his tweets. Im really concerned he dont represent americans. You know, he is out there. He is on the international circuit. And people are looking at him and thinking is this what america is about . Is this what america is becoming . Its awful abusive behavior. He may have been popular in the election but he wasnt the most popular. We also forget that. He did win in this state. Do you hear what they are saying and you disagree. I disagree. I think there is a big difference between what one says and what one does. But do the words matter. I guess it depends on the situation. But the words we dont know what words are said between President Trump and kim jong un individually. But publicly he has insulted our alis. And praised people like putin. I think its. Or kim jong un. I think its tactical. Youre okay with that. Umhum. Thoughts danielle, do words matter. I think actions matter too. You know our economy is looking really good. Unemployment is at one of the lowest its been in decades. And i think that Stuff Matters too. 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