Oversee the plan says that the cost to you wont where wildly different. I guarantee that nobody will be worse off financially in the proce process weier going through, understandi ining they can have choi choices about their plan, not what the government tells them to buy. One person who got closest to the white houses theory about how quickly this bill is moving. This bill is so outrageous, that not only are the republicans moving forward in the house without the cbo score, they want to move forward in the Senate Without any hearings whatsoev whatsoever. If you realize this bill is goingtime pact tens and tens sand millions of people, to my knowledge they want to bring it right to the floor of the senate. Im a member of the house education committee, when obamacare was being debated we had hearing after hearing. The House Intelligence Committee gave the white house, the department of justice a dead line to show proof, that deadline is tomorrow. Cnns athena jones is here with more on that, any indication yet on whats going to happen tomorrow . Hi, anna, no, no indication that this white house is prepared to produce any proof that backs up the president s unsubstantiated allegation against his predecessor, this is the question that the white house and the president have been dodging and ducking since the president made this allegation last saturday morning. Earlier this week, a reporter was standing just a few feet from the president and asked them three times about proof of this wiretapping claim and that reporter was ignored. Vice president mike pence was asked a direct question about whether he think this is happened 57 hi declined to say that he did, instead pointing to these investigations of these constitutional intelligence committees. These are questions that are not just being asked by reporters and not just being asked by democrats. Heres what senator john mccain had to say about all of this on state of the union. Listen. President trump has to provide the American People, not just the intelligence community, but the American People with evidence that his predecessor, the former president of the United States was accused of breaking the law, because our National Intelligence advisor said there was no truth to that allegation. I think the president has one of two choices, either retract or provide the information that the American People deserve because if his predecessor, if president primary violated the law, we have a serious issue here, to say the least. It would have a serious issue if it had happened. Former president obama denied he had any role in the wiretapping of donald trump tower and has told cnn that it did not happen. And we should mention that its the department of justicea has been asked to provide these documents, the House Intelligence Committee sent a message to trump on friday requesting that they turn over any relevant documents or evidence. The fbi director about this time last week called on Justice Department officials to publicly refute the president s baseless claims because they were erroneo erroneous, because it would have been illegal. Noteworthy that this is the same agency thats being asked to provide evidence that several Officials Say just doesnt exist. And were given a schedule on whats going to happen in the days events, anything on there that signals they will be addressing this issue . No indications yet of any plans to address this tomorrow, but well have to wait and see, if there is a brifing, it is sure to come up. Reporter joining me now, a. Scott bolden, a democratic strategist, and ellis stewart, former Communications Director for senator ted cruz. Tom price said this today, i firmly believe that nobody will be worse off financially in the process, at the end of this bill proposal by the republicans. After those comments, breitbart posted the headline, the upcoming lie of the year, about prices comments. So alic alice, do you think those words will come back to haunt President Trump . When the Obama Administration when they said obamacare would lead to lower cost and hooirer choices, and that has not been the case. The reason were hire is because with the obama care, we were promised lower costs and hooirer choices and it has led to higher costs and fewer choices and that is what President Trump and republicans across the board campaigned on, is repealing and replacing obama care, and thats what theyre doing, theyre keeping their promise. They knew it would be a heavy lift, they have a plan on the table thats passed two house committees, but theyre listening to both sides, and listening to republicans who have come concerns about Medicaid Expansion. And so were on a long road to preside putting a bill together that will satisfy everyone. And this death spiral the republicans keep talking about, you know, 80 of everyone that has obama care says that they would rather have obama care or something that would replace it on an equal basis. The other thing is, obama care is more popular now than its everybody been. I think its up like 3 over the last six months or the last year. So obama care is working. Its not perfect, dont get me wrong, and it needs some work, but the republican alternative after six to eight years, where as the party of no, even their own Party Members in the senate and house cant get together on the bill and the democrats quite frankly just dont believe in the bill. Its a bad bill, because theyre going to end the Medicaid Expansion, theyre going to limit medicaid itself. People arent going to be able to afford to put money into the health care bank account. And more importantly, if they get a gap, if working class and poor people get a gap in services, theyre going to charge them a 30 penalty or increase just to get back on insurance. That may sound like a choice, but a mandate sounds a lot better, because at least they have some form of insurance versus being on the public payroll. I would imagine that obamacare is not popular with the people who were promised that their costs would be 2,500 les per year when in fact theyre on average 3,000 more per year. And many counties in this country only have one Insurance Company in which to choose from, thats not higher choices, and as secretary price had mentioned earlier this week, a lot of people might have a car, they might have coverage, but that is not Affordable Health care. Hold your thought for just a moment there, scott. Lets do a fact check here, because as scott mentioned, it is true that public support for obamacare is at an alltime high right now, according to all across the board, the latest polling. On that flip side, scott, it is also true that a lot of people are seeing their premiums go up under obamacare, in fact 116 up for people in arizona, for example. So as you point out, the bill obamacare is not perfect, white not give Something Else a try, scott . Well, because, well give something a try and work on the premiums going up. But this bill is about tax breaks and this bill is not equivalent and this bill is not going to cover everyone. Every stake holder in this country, hospitals, doctors, beyond democrats, believe that this bill is a bad bill because it wont do what its promising to do, it cant cover all of those people, all of the people who need it, while limiting medicare or ending Medicaid Expansion and taking away medicaid. You just cant do it. I got to tell you, the real watch is the cbo report. Because you can hear the republicans walking away and trying to say bad things, if your will, about the cbo report. Thats a data point that its going to be the best data point, and i can promise, i wish i could promise you, but that cbo report is going to be hung around the republican bill like a lead weight because its going to show how many people are going to lose coverage and how expensive its going to be, and republicans are not going to be able to run from it. So tomorrows a big day and were going to see how well this republican bill is going to help the American People, its not. Alex, the expect tairgs is that that cbo report is going to show millions of people who will not have Health Insurance anymore. I grir with scott on the fact that the cbo report will be critical. And thats a component on any discussion that were having about this new Health Care Bill and it may change the conversation. Look, we also have to factor in, that when the cbo report came out with obamacare, they were dramatically off on the numbers, and the estimates they had were way off. So we have to take that into consideration, but its a good frame work and its a good gairj to start the conversation on how many people will be covered and the cost. Also keeping in mind, conservative republicans are really pushing back and really going to have some input in this and there was some conversation this is week, we know that members of congress are going to have pizza and some conversations about health care this week at the white house, which is important because they didnt have the opportunity to do so with obamacare, so were going to have a lot of the things that scott mentioned are important. And members of congress are going to have the opportunity to present that and thats part of the discussion. And i do think that many factors will be brought to the tashl that havent been introduced in the bill right now. And theres going to be a compromise that takes in all of these concerns and will make a bill that will lead to quality Affordable Health care. Its not just politicians who have been unhappy with this on both sides of the aisle, but it has been doctors, hospitals, insurers who have been spoken out against it. Why do you think everybody across the board, not everybody, thats still too much to say, but why so many people are unhappy with it . Theres conservative republicans who are unhappy with it. Why is nobody happy . There are a lot of people that are happy. Certainly, ask paul ryan, hes thrilled with it. And secretary price is happy with it. President donald trump is happy with it. A lot of people think this is a good option and a good solution to the unaffordable obamacare which was promised to be affordable, it is not affordsab affordsable, it is not sustainable. And a lot of people have ideas on how to make it better and how to make its more asfordable and how to cover more people. And those conservative republicans that are out there want to have their voices heard and they will and that includes conversations about Medicaid Expansion, they want that sooner rather than later, and some of these tax credits, they see as subsidies, they want to do away with that. So a lot still needs to be done and i am enkurjed that President Trump is going to listen to people on both sides. Got to go. Scott bolden and alice stewart. Thank you both. Coming up live in the cnn newsroom, the other side of the health care debate, a woman who has Health Insurance for the first time in her life thanks to the Affordable Care act. What sort of ailments do you have now . High Blood Pressure, diabetes, i have a torn rotator cuff and i have a bad knee. avo did you know two areas of your brain can make it hard to lose weight . 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And that includes groups that backed President Trump in the electi election. Enrolling in medicaid, the health care drama in washington, d. C. Playing ought right here in oweningsville, kentucky. I feel like i was put in a position where it was either accepted or go into debt and i was not wanting to be in debt. Especially for me and my son. Tribute works for a Health Program and has a 3yearold, she could get insurance through her employer, but the cost prohibitive. If i was to get that insurance, i would only come home with 100 a week. Reporter today 1. 34 million kentuckians are on medicaid, if the current house bill becomes law, 440,000 of those insured thanks to the Medicaid Expansion would likely see their coverage vanish. How many people have your signed up in owenss aboborough. The population here is hard working but pour. There are people who will make about 32,000 in household income. Reporter mary lou adams, a Nurse Practitioner says since obamacare kicked in, shes seen the health of her community improve. We are seeing people that didnt come before with chronic diseases that felt like they did no have access. Reporter 63yearold paula murphy never had insurance until obamacare helped her get medicaid. What sort of ailments do you have right now . High Blood Pressure, di diabetes, i have a torn rotator cuff and a bad knee. Reporter her message to President Trump, followthrough on your promise to make health care better. At the moment im gravely concerned. If he does what he says he can do, i might be okay with it. Two powerful republicans, senator paul said this this morning referring to it as ob a obamacarelite. I think thats the negotiation period, i think were in the prenegotiation period. We will get obamacareobamacare they brir down the rule, if they stop him in the tracks, then true negotiation begins. No negotiation right now counts until they determine they have enough votes to stop obamacarel blooirn ite. Joining me now, director for politics at the university of virginia. The white house has said dont call this trump care, even though donald trump has been cheer leading this legislation. But candidate trump ran largely on the promise of repealing and replacing obamacare, and hes put his name on lots of projects, why doesnt he want his name on this . Because he will lose if its a disaster. If they cant get a repeal of obamacare in some fashion passed, they will have violated the pledges they made in the elections of 2012, 2014, 2016 and conservative republicans will remember this and maybe challenge some of the incumbents in republican primaries in 2018. On the other hand if they do pass Something Like paul ryans proposed bill, then millions of people are going to lose their Health Insurance. I think thats obvious. But what isnt obvious is a very large majority of the people who will probably Lose Health Care are trump voters. Its rare that you vote for someone and you end up suffering on account of it so quickly. Now of course Vice President mike pence has been trying to rally support around the health care ro reform, he was on the r this weekend, he was in kentucky, where of course our colleague was just reporting from. Do you think hes the most effective person to deliver this message, whereas trump was an effective messenger at rallies . Its all hands on deck. Before its over if trump is really serious about getting some bill passed, hes going to have the hit the road and get people to pressure their republican members of the house and the senate to vote for this. It always tells you something when there is division in the Majority Party about a proposal made by the Majority Partys president. Thats never a good sign, and it means theres going to be a terrible, a very serious struggle ahead, just to get anything passed. Trump won kentucky by 30 Percentage Points back in november, and as you pointed out, many Trump Supporters rely on obamacare, what would the political fallout look like if obamacare is taken away and is replaced with what were seeing right now with republicans . Its bound to hurt republicans in some future elections. Trumps is four years off, but some members of the senate and all members of the house are up in 2018. Its impossible to evade responsibility for Something Like this, if use are the Majority Party in the house and the senate and you control the white house and you ran on the idea of abolishing the problems in health care and creating a perfect system four times. Exactly. Thank you very much. Good to have you was. And tune in this wednesday night, well dive deeper, wolf blitzer, dana bash will have a town hall with health and Human Services secretary tom price about the new health care proposal, thats wednesday night at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on cnn. A very low profile secretary of state, Rex Tillerson heading overseas but with no prison, and leaving behind questions about how much influence he has in the white house. No corn, wheat or soy. Support your active dogs whole body health with purina one. Today, unlimited gets the network it deserves. Verizon. mic thuds uh, sorry. Its unlimited without compromising reliability, on the largest, most advanced 4g lte network in america. thud uh. Sorry, last thing. Its just 45 per line. Forty. Five. cheering and applause and that is all the microphones that i have. vo unlimited on verizon. 4 lines, just 45 per line. Announcer get on your feet for the nastiest bull in the state of texas. Secretary of state Rex Tillerson makes one of his first trips overseas when he visitsiza. Theres a growing friction between the u. S. And china. The trip is going to be low key by secretary of state standards. Tillerson is bringing little in the way of staff and media. I spoke to Global Affairs correspondent elise labbot about tillersons low profile in the trump administration. Reporter we know that as the ceo of exxonmobil, tillerson kept a notoriously low profile. Hes kind of the explainer in chief of communicating u. S. Foreign policy, and getting the u. S. Message which not only helps educate the American People and the world, but also kind of helps the u. S. With its influence oversees, you know, Rex Tillerson since hes come to office has kept a very low profile, but certainly as he goes to asia, in this very tense time, not only between north korea and the region, but also between the u. S. And china. I think people are really looking for more of a vision of how he sees himself and u. S. Foreign policy. So it may be unusual to have a low profile, does that necessarily mean its ineffective . I mean, look, its still early, we dont know how effective hes going to be ultimately. He certainly has a lot of access to President Trump, the two meet several times a week, theyll have lunch, theyll have dinner, theyre talking on the phone all the time. But if you look at some of the world leaders, theyre gravitating toward Jared Kushner, the president s soninlaw and foreign advisor. The saudi deputy crown prince was in town a few weeks ago, he gravitated toward the white house. I think a lot of times, Jared Kushner who also is taking on the mid east peace file, is seen as someone whos very close to President Trump, i think people might feel they might have more of an in at the white house, if you combine that with the fact that Rex Tillerson has kept a very low profile, i think this could affect his leadership on the world stage, that raises a lot of questions, but again, its very early to know what his vision s and i think people are really hungry for more information about who he is, what hes doing on behalf of President Trump for u. S. Foreign policy, theyre really looking for that chief u. S. Diplomat to play more of a visible role. All right, thanks to elise labbot tonight. Tillerson finds its hard for a ceo to become secretary. The next senate race in california just got less interesting. Former governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has decided hes not running for that seat. In a statement out today, he says in part, i am deeply flattered about all of the people who have approached me about running for senate, but my mission now is to bring sanity to washington through redistricting reform. Last Night Saturday night live opened with jokes about president donald trump, shocking, right . But the show saved its toughest shot for his daughter ivanka, did the show go too far in targeting trumps family . Thats next live in the cnn newsroom. Kblk woman on the gulf coast, new exxonmobil projects are expected to create over 45,000 jobs. And each job created by the Energy Industry supports two others in the community. Altogether, the industry supports over 9 million jobs nationwide. These are jobs that natural gas is helping make happen, all while reducing americas emissions. Energy lives here. As usual, saturday night live going after President Trump, but it saved its most brutal shot for ivanka. Every man knows her name, every woman knows her face. When she walks into a room, all eyes are on her. Shes ivanka. And a woman like her deserves a fragrance all her own, a scent made just for her, because shes beautiful, shes powerful, shes complicit. For the woman who knows what she wants and knows what shes doing. Complicit. She doesnt crave the spotlight, but we see her. Oh, how we see her. Here to discuss dino dabudala, also formerly of snl and a cnn commentator and republican strategist alice stewart, whos back with us as well. Youre a comedian, there has to be a line somewhere and shouldnt the president s family be the line. There is a line and thats going to be with the children, if you made fun of barron, a 10yearold kid. Ivanka trump is not beyond making fun of her. Shes met with the president of canada, shes spoken with the japanese prime minister. A little comedy, the best thing is punching up, thats what this is, its going after people with power. I think it hit a home run, because already 400,000 views on youtube, people sharing it all over twitter. Donald trump should appreciate this, this is an administration that hates being p. C. , theyre going after the daughter by saying youre complicit in this, youre going after sexist issues and your do you have is the sexist hall of fame. Should ivanka be fair game . Let me just say this, watching that clip, i have met ivanka many times on the campaign trail, and i have to say shes just as glamorous in real life as she was in that. Even when she was 10 months pregnant on the campaign trail in iowa on caucus night, she was glamorous and dignified and classify. And thats just the person she is. And i strongly believe and always have believed, that family members and especially family mechanical members of e officials are offlimits, but she is not just the normal daughter of an elected official, shes an advisor, she helps him with policy, she helps him with speeches and she is an important member of the trump administration, and i think it is fair game for her to be made fun of just as they do with sean spice er and they have done wit kellyanne conway. Its not fun and it hurts and its part of the game and thats politics, its a blood sport. And certainly snl is getting a lot of attention by making fun of this administration, but as difficult as it is, shes fair game, but shes tough person and i think shes going to let this roll off her back like a lot of other things have. The show sort of described her as the woman who could stop all of this, some of the chaos and some of what were seeing in the administration, but isnt that what the voters elected . First of all, can i savor the moment, alice and i agree on something . A conservative and a progressive agreeing, this is a beautiful moment. I think that he won, but he lost 3 million of the popular vote. Even the rasmussen poll, hes under water right there. Hes having trouble, im hoping ivanka trump can stop everything that President Trump is doing is a little out there, but she has his ear, he arents her views. He still would like President Trump to be the president of all americans, as a muslim, its hard for me to embrace President Trump with the muslim ban, maybe ivanka could be that olive branch between the Muslim Community between President Trump and the Muslim Community. Should she feel the need to try to be the olive branch . No one can stop trump from being trump, that is why hes the president of the United States. The person he is today is the person he was throughout the campaign, his language is the same as it was during the campaign and thats why people voted for him. We knew exactly what we were getting. Im not convinced that 41 hshe hasnt reeled him in quite a bit. His tweets have reeled in, and his speech has reeled n i think he has become much more president ial in the last 50 days and i think she has had a tremendous impact on that and i think shes doing a lot with the absence of melania in the white house shes doing a great job to be someone who gives him comfort and be by his side and gives him something thats critical in this administration and i think shes doing a great job. Lets hope that snl has had their fun and will go pick on someone else the next time. Snl is going to pick on donald trump a lot. What i think about this comedy was so good because the cold open went after donald trump as this kind of buffoon type of person. But i think its pretty daring to talk about ivanka trump. I think it was daring and it resonates with a lot of people on the left, that everyone in this adminitration is visible, is complicit with trump, at least thats the way we see them on the left, the right might disagree. She needs to speak out and say hes wrong. Shes a feminist. I honestly think he should apologize, apologize to carly fiorina, for making fun of her face. I think that he needs to be a bigger trump. And maybe she can help in that role. Skiff youre not speaking out against some of the things that the president is doing, does that make somebody like ivanka complicit . I think to deans point, the president has said that he regrets some comments that hes made that have been harmful to people. I worked for ted cruz, no one was hit harder than ted cruz during the campaign and his wife. To the extent that donald trump has issue an apoll injure, he has done so to people who he feels may have been hurt. Ivanka is his daughter and shes going to support him to the edge and thats part of their relationship and thats what makes him unique and thats part of what makes donald trump who he is. You can disgrooir with his politics, you can disagree with his policies, but also everyone can agree, hes got tremendous kids, they all love each other and they certainly respect each other and hes been a great father and theres certainly no denying or disputing that fact. Still ahead, iraqi forces, theyre not letting up in their battle to liberate western mosul, ill take you inside a running street battle in the besieged city. [ gun fire ] you wto progress. Move. To not just accept what you see, but imagine something new. At invisalign®, we use the most advanced teeth straightening technology to help you find the next amazing version of yourself. Its time to unleash your secret weapon. Its there, right under your nose. Get to your best smile up to 50 faster. Visit invisalign. 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Then an isis suicide car bomb explodes nearby, pieces of metal and concrete raining down. Isis sets an iraqi humvee on fire, killing three and wounding others. This video is a raw glimpse of the intensity of the battle for western mosul. Iraqi officials arent putting out casualty figures, but its clear Government Forces are paying a high price. Isis fighters continue to put up stiff resistance, car bombs the weapon of their choice, they have used dozens since the push for western mosul began two and a half weeks ago. More than 75,000 civilians have fled this part of the city, but this older woman and her granddaughter had no choice but to stick it out. Hundreds of thousands remain inside hanging white flags on their doors in the hopes theyll be spared. In western mosul far heavier where it took iraqi forces three months to gain control. The phrase war is hell here becomes reality. Ben weedaman, northern iraq. Thank you, ben. Expunge, an all new episode of cnns bloefr. A selfproclaimed doomsday prophet says the world is coming to an end. Well take you inside his cult. Thats next live in the cnn newsroom. Reinvented new dream cushion liquid foundation. From Maybelline New York complete, luminous coverage for freshfaced perfection. Maybellines new dream cushion. Complete luminous coverage in a compact. Make it happen Maybelline New York nobody does unlimited like tmobile. While the other guys gouge for unlimited data. Tmobile one save you hundreds a year. Right now get two lines of data for 100 dollars. With taxes and fees included. Thats right 2 unlimited lines for just 100 bucks. All in. And right now, pair up those two lines with two free Samsung Galaxy s7 when you switch. Yup free. So switch and save hundreds when you go all unlimited with tmobile. Whfight back fastts, with tums smoothies. It starts dissolving the instant it touches your tongue. And neutralizes stomach acid at the source. Tum tum tum tum smoothies only from tums i wanted him to eat healthy. , so i feed jake purina cat chow naturals indoor, a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors. Made specifically for indoor cats. Purina cat chow. Nutrition to build better lives. On an all new episode of of the cnn series, believer, reza aslan heads to hawaii to sit down with the doomsday cult leader who goes by jesus with a z, and they talk struggles and spojts that come with being a selfproclaimed prophet. Heres a preview. Ever thought about what would happen if something happened to you . Before the prophesy gets fulfilled. What happens to all of this . Whos going to succeed you . Ive been busy recruiting. Disciples, the most important, apostles. They go and preach and come back. Yeah, they always come back. Tell me about the stress thats involved in having to keep all of this together. All of these people who rely on you, what kind of responsibility do you feel about that . Its hard. Its really hard. You know, i have the responsibility to provide for them. Food, water, safety, shelter, but you also have to provide spiritually. I feel responsible for their soul. Theyre there because they believe in my vision. And theres fear that im going to let them down, you know, its hard being a prophet. The host of cnn believer, reza aslan. Tell us more about this group. I it looked like youre really listening to what he was saying. Thats actually the second meeting that i had with jesuz. He was quite manic. Very what i like to call prophet mode. He was giving me his prophesies and working himself up into a frenzy. It was quite frightening, giving serious thought to getting back on a plane and coming home, but after spending about a week with his group and finding out what these people believed and why they were there. Why they had a abandoned everything to come to this secret hideaway on the big island, prepare for the end times, to follow this man. I had a different view of who he was. And that second conversation is a result of a much calmer jesuz with a z. Did you find him convincing or infectious in some way . I mean, hes definitely charismatic. There is no question about that. Theres something about him that draws people from all over the world to him. But i will say thats important to understand that people are there far whole host of different reasons. And thats why it was important for me to really spend some deep time there. Some of them are true believers. Devout believers, they will follow him until the end of the earth. Some of them, certainly believe that we are headed for some kind of catastrophic climactic disaster, but whether they actually accept his prophesy and whether they believe in his plan to build an arc to save it, thats a whole other thing. You say you accidentally convinced jesuz with a z that he was in fact the messiah. How did that happen . Well, it shouldnt come as a surprise to find out that doomsday groups like this are kind of secretive. So when we first reached out to him to see if it would be possible for us to come with our camera crew and live with them for a while, we thought it would be difficult to convince him. It was very easy. He immediately said yes. And only later that i find out that apparently a few years ago, he had a bit of a crisis of faith. He started doubting whether he actually was the messiah, and then he heard me on npr talking about my book zealot which is a book about other jesus. The one with the s. The one that were going to see on finding jesus in a moment. And somehow what i wrote convinced him that he was right. That he actually is the messiah. All his doubts went away, and he redoubled his efforts. I dont know what to think about that. Hey, i want to ask you about something, something serious. Something about faith and culture. We know at least five Jewish Community centers received bomb threats just today. Thats the latest in a very recent and large spike of incidents coming about religious intolerance. What do you think can be done to stop this from happening. And indeed mosques have been attacked. A number of indians have been attacked. Look, we are at a point right now where because of a lot of of the rhetoric thats coming out of the white house and in the halls of power, there are groups of americans who feel as though their very identity is under threat by the diversity that is america. And i understand where that fear comes from, but we need to do everything in our power to lower the temperature on this divisiveness. And unfortunately, its hard to convince the white house that while it may be politically expedient to continue with some of this divisive polarizing rhetoric about mexicans and muslims and people who dont look like everyone else, unfortunately we are seeing now the results of that kind of rhetoric. And its dangerous, and it has to stop. Reza aslan thanks for joining us. Dont miss the all new episode at 10 00 eastern tonight here on cnn. Great night of television ahead for you. Up next, all new finding jesus episode, raisie inine ining laz. Have a great week. In the state of texas. An unlimited data plan is only as good as the network its on. And verizon has been ranked number one for the 7th time in a row by rootmetrics. man hey, uh, whats rootmetrics