Im Natalie Allen, newsroom starts right now. Iran is now offering a new explanation about why it seized a british flagged oil tanker in the strait of horm muuz. Iran claims it was involved in an accident with an iranian fishing boat so the iranian navy captured the tanker. An Iranian News Agency says the ship is in port and all 22 are to remain on board during the investigation. Advising all uk ships to avoid the strait of hormuz. It says it did stop a second ship briefly but it was released. The ships owner confirms it is no longer in iranian waters, the foreign secretary tweeted this, yesterdays action in gulf shows worrying signs that iran may be choosing a dangerous path of illegal behavior at the gibraltar legal detention of oil bound for veeria. As i said yesterday, our reaction will be considered but robust. We have been trying to find a way to resolve grace 1 issue but will ensure the safety of our shipping. All of this coming after gibraltar said an iranian shipping tanker seized a week ago will be held another 30 days. Snrchs Jomana Karadsheh is following the events. Iran is racheting up these dangerous incidents. Well, natalie, as you mentioned there, we had a couple of incidents taking place, yesterday, within a span of a couple hours. You have this incident with a british operated tanker that u. S. And uk officials were saying have been seized by iran. The iranians denied that they seized it. They said that they stopped it briefly for some sort of a Maritime Security briefing, then they let it go. Then you have this very serious ongoing issue with stena, a british flagged tanker, and this is a serious situation that were seeing in the strait of hormuz. The situation with the iranians is it sounds like theyre trying to deescalate with a collision with a fishing boat and this tanker was not sponsored, so, of course to the law, it had to be taken to the port for an investigation, this investigation is ongoing. And they said while this is happening for safety reasons, then they have to keep the crew on board. 23 of them, 18 indian and others from different nationalities, including from the philippines and russia. Now, what could be an encouraging sign at this point is the British Foreign secretary, following, you know, weve seen National Security meetings. A covert meeting taking place in the United Kingdom yesterday. Theyre saying right now, at this point, the military option are not on the table. Theyre not looking at that. Theyre trying to go through the diplomatic route. Jeremy hunt saying he tried to reach the foreign minister of iran javad zarif, but also saying that the British Ambassador to tehran is speaking to the foreign ministry. You know, if you look at this specific incident while the iranians are saying its a fishing incident, an accident that took place, you look at several other incidents that have been taking place, and definitely, were seeing this sort of escalation that is taking place in that very Narrow Strait of hormuz. And a lot of concern of that. And this specific incident, natalie, may be seen as retaliation that the iranians promised for the navy british marines and the Gibraltar Authorities taking into custody that Iranian Oil Tanker on the 4th of july that they say was in violation of sanctions taking oil to syria. So, ill have to wait and see what happens. But all indications at this point is that theyre trying to resolve this diplomatically. Right. Because no one wants to see this continue to escalate. Jomana karachi, thank you so much. That message from iran and mixed messages, conflicting signals with how to deal with iran. Including the president sounding optimistic only to change his tone. On thursday, he authorized a u. S. Senator to initiate talks with iranian officials. The next day, he reversed course and said rand paul had been given permission to reach out to tehran. Even so, the president is sounding doubtful it will do any good. This only goes to show what im saying about iran. Trouble, nothing but trouble. I think was right about iran. And lets see what happens. Are you concerned about a broader financial situation in the strait of hormuhormuz. No, we have the greatest people in the world. We have the greatest equipment in the world. We have the most deadly ships we dont want to use them, but theyre the most deadly ships ever conceived. We hope for their sake they dont do anything foolish, if they do, theyll pay a price nobody has. Lets put it into focus with Natasha Lindstaedt from england. Good to have you. Thanks for having me. The president giving mixed messages, taking a more hawkish tone on iran. Saying iran better be careful. A great deal of volatility. Neither country really wanting a fullon war. What do you make of where things stand right now . Its really interesting. But i think all of this illustrates that trump didnt have a plan in place for what he was going to do after he decided he was going to back out of the nuclear deal. Id like to say first had he never backed out of the nuclear deal, i really wouldnt have much to criticize because iran has really been behaving badly. Sabotaging ships, seizing ships and just creating general havoc in the region. But thats a big thing to have to look at. He stepped out of this deal, and it was a deal that had been working. It was finally a time that iran was adhering and complying to regulations. And now, he doesnt really have a plan. Were just seeing a lot of back and forth both on the u. S. Side and the iranian side. With the iranians you see the Security Guard taking bold ricks and backtracking to actually say it was more of an accident. We also say the u. S. Is doing the same thing. Fully unprepared with how to deal with iran. At the same time, iran was conciliatory, and at other times he was threatened. The message that sends to the iranians that hes all talk, that hes not going to back it up with any kind of attack and that then making the iranians even bolder. Natasha, im curious, youre saying iran behaving badly. Certainly, iran was involved in proxy wars according to u. S. Officials. When the u. S. Backed out of the iran nuclear deal, do you believe had he not done that, we would not be seeing what were seeing now, iran taking a nor assertive approach at the strait of hormuz . Thats exactly what i believe. I think iran had everything to gain by dealing with the deal. They had 15 inflation, 13 unemployment rate. They were pretty desperate. Though theyre not on their knees yet, i think thats the problem, they still have a ways to go before theyre actually brought to their knees but they were hoping this deal would work and theyd get sanction relief and they would adhere to the deal because it was in their interest to do so. By backing out of iran, iran had nothing to lose, amping up their proxy activities, sabotaging ships and detaining tankers, pretending that they didnt do it and then they did do it. Iran basically with chaos in the region again. The uk saying they will retaliate, but theyre looking more towards diplomacy, that military force. What does that say about the state of iran, the nuclear deal that the u. S. Backed out of . And others trying to manage their relationships with a more assertive iran . I think the nuclear deal is in trouble here. Because the authorities already tried to offer iran some innocecentive to stick to the d. I know that france sent an envoy over to iran. And thats why none of this has really worked. They said, you know, this is really not enough for us. And that puts countries like the uk, which the uk is obviously close to the u. S. , but desperately wants to go back to the 2015 deal in a difficult situation. Because iran is really pushing things and really trying to push things to the brink because they think that this will then force europe to defy the uss. Right. I dont think thats going to happen. The uk is going to do what the u. S. Wants it to. Natasha lindstaedt, thank you. A day after distancing himself from racist chants at an audience, President Trump is calling his rally patriots. Abby phillip explains. Do you take that tweet back . You know what im happy with . Im unhappy with the fact that a congresswoman can hate our country. Reporter just one day after distancing himself from the supporters send her back channel, now President Trump im happy with the fact that a congresswoman can say antisemitic things. Reporter the president starts a week, after telling the congresswomen to come back from where they came. This is the agenda of White National lifts. Reporter the president was emboldened. Two days after that came out, Mitch Mcconnell offering tepid criticism. I think everybody ought to tone their their rhetoric. Reporter by wednesday, trump had turned the attacks on a scripted campaign strategy. She looks down on the contempt of the hard working american saying ignorance is pervasive in many parts of this country. And obviously and importantly omar has a history of launching vicious antisemitic screeds. Reporter his supporters responding with a chant from his own words. Send her back. Reporter that crossing a line for republican lawmakers on capitol hill who voiced their discomfort with chants to Vice President mike pence. And sources say his daughter ivanka trump expressed her concerns to the president. By thursday trump disavowed the chants by claiming he tried to stop it. But it started up rather fast. Reporter 24 hours later, the president now attempting to move the debate to more comfortable territory. Crowd size. Those people in north carolina. That stadium was packed. It was a record crowd. And i could have filled ten times, as you know. Those are incredible people. Those are incredible patriots. Reporter after congresswoman omar did go back to her home state of minnesota, trump falsely about cushion her of staging the event. President trump also seemed to deny that his daughter ivanka trump and First Lady Melania Trump advised him on whether or not those chants at that rally this week were acceptable. He said they didnt advise him, but they did speak to him about it. He does ask whether it could be acceptable for Melania Trump to face chants of send her back given that melania is not from the United States. He didnt answer the questions saying the first lady like he does disguises the comments that hes been trying to raise attention to all week. American voters are listening to President Trump ahead of the 2020 election. And some people who cast their ballots for him in 2016 may be reconsidering their choice. Thats coming up. And for those of you watching in the United States it is hot. You want to be close to the air conditioner this weekend. Well look at the heat wave that is blanketing much of the country. Er questions the tasks at hand. But this year, theres a more thrilling path to follow. father kids. Change of plans vo defy the laws of human nature. 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This government has been left to run wild with our economy, with the money, with all of the funds of the federal government is spending here, now, this guy, after everything hes done, after everything hes said, after how everything has made public about how he feels about us, he makes fun of the people who died. He lied about the quantity of people who died. After he lied about so much about i mean, its insufferable. Still, he holds on to power. Governor rossello refuses to step down, but several members of his staff including his press secretary has resigned. Here in the United States, a heat wave, it is bad, but without power, even even worse. Thats what more than 280,000 people in the city of detroit are dealing with at this very hour. A storm moved through sending trees into power lines, this in a city already under an excessive heat advisory, as is new york which had its subway system stop running on friday. Thousands of hot, frustrated commuters waited hours for the system to come back online. Faring slightly better the animals at zoo new england in boston, they beat the heat with ice there. Lets bring in our meteorologist ivan cabrera. I hope you have good news, ivan . What would you like to hear . We dont have to wait that long. And theyre probably wondering what is this block of ice doing here. In new york, its very uncomfortable. Lets take you outside, in fact, i want to take you much higher. Look at that dawn in midtown manhattan where the temperatures right now are 82. It feels like 89 because of the humidity. Keep in mind that 89, thats the first time weve gone below 90 degrees since 10 00 a. M. Yesterday. Were talking about oppressive heat that does not let go since overnight. Look at the states. The pink you see 105 to 115, when you factor in the humidity. Thats what its going to feel like this afternoon. Surrounding areas will feel like 100, to 105, still bad but not as bad as the warning states are. Take a look at minneapolis. Are you ready for 60s and 70s . Im not forecasting that for the mideast, but eventually thats going to move through. 106, 108 tomorrow. Look at new york and boston brutal stuff for the next couple of days. But a front is on the move here thats going to potential for severe weather. Level 2 of 5 there with damaging wind, large hail and isolated tornadoes. Look what happens, columbus goes from 90s to 70s. Chicago, 90s to 70s. Thats the case as well more of a transition from philly into washington. But look at that 100 saturday, 100 on sunday. This isnt feels like. This is the actual temperature that will likely see triple digits in d. C. , as temperatures will begin to bottom out. 91 own monday. Then the relief arrives with 70s and 80s. And conditions similar in new york. Very hot. Then well have temperatures that are much cooler. Ill leave you with safety tips here. Some are common sense. And the others are not. Drink a lot of water, the clothes, check on anybodies, the elderly. And in the midatlantic, a lot of folks dont have central ac, make sure the windows are working. Look before you lock. Dont leave people or pets in the cars. Really important. Thank you. You bet. All right. The lineups are set for the next pair of u. S. Democratic president ial debates. You can only see them on cnn. The first night features progressive senators Bernie Sanders and elizabeth warren. Theyll be joined on tuesday, july 30th by south bend indiana mayor Pete Buttigieg and amy klobuchar. And the second day, wednesday, july 31st. Joining them cory booker and julian castro. Its been 2 1 2 years of the trump presidency, and the United States is in a much different place than it was in 2016. So, how do trump voters feel about their choice now . Randi kaye speaks with two work colleagues who have surprising answers. Reporter Wisconsin Voter dave saverovic voted for trump in 2016. What are you thinking for 2020, are you planning to support President Trump again . Absolutely not. Reporter why not . Because i dont want another four years of embarrassment going on. Reporter and what weve seen this past vehicle, another example of that. That tweet that everybody is talking about. I would not define it as a racist tweet. But its a hatred tweet for sure. Reporter his coworker at this Plumbing Company also voted for trump in 2016 and she sees it differently. If you dont like this country, get out, leave. Thats all he said. He didnt use any names. They stood up. And so, thats all they did. They made themselves look like idiots. Reporter unlike her coworker dave, yekerri has no regrets about voting for trump. He takes no crap from anybody. Thats why i love them. Hes followed through on the promises he made to american people. Reporter like what give me one. Taxes. Were back in charge again. Were not taking guff. Hes working with north korea like no other president has in the world before. Reporter unlike kerri, dave really regrets his vote. I didnt know he was going to act this way. Im embarrassed by him. Reporter what dont you like about the president . He doesnt act like a president should in my eyes. He, in a way, i think, spreads hatred. Its like a little kid having a temper tantrum. The way he talks about, blah, blah, blah, however he says, to me, its childish. Reporter he said trump should stop taking credit for things like the economy. You dont think hes good for business . I cant say that he alone is the reason why everything is booming at this time. It didnt happen as soon as he took office. It was already starting to improve. Reporter kerri sees it differently. I had thought this country needs to be run like a business. It was ran into the ground for eight years. And its time to bring it back. And hes done it. Reporter kerri also thinks its right to build a wall and limit immigration. Dave argues this country needs immigrants. Dairy products would be so much more expensive. Vegetables grown around here, or anywhere in the United States, everything would be much more expensive if it wasnt for the immigrants. Reporter but he ran on that pretty much when you voted for him in 2016, right . Once again, i thought he was a better option than hillary. Reporter so it wasnt necessarily a vote for trump in went 16, it was against Hillary Clinton . Exactly. Reporter is there anything that trump can do to change your mind or youre dug in . Im dug in. Im behind him 100 . Reporter youre an out trump train . Im on the trump train. Im in the front car with him pulling the whistle. All right. Coming up here, the latest on the iranian threat to commercial shipping. Why iran said it captured a british oil tanker. 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In a recent message that showed the governor making racist and even homophobic comments now the house of representatives is investigating impeachment process. U. S. Lawmakers are preparing questions for robert mueller. On wednesday, the former special counsel will testify before two house committees. Democrats plan to focus on showing President Trump obstructed justice. And how the russians meddled in the 2016 election. Lets bring you up to date on the top story, the seizure of a british oil flagged tanker by iran. It now says it captured the vessel after it was involved in an accident with iranian fishing boat and it ignored a distress signal from it. But this comes after gibraltar said an iranian super tanker seized by the uk a couple weeks ago is to be held for another 30 days. Just a few minutes ago, jeremy hunt tweeted, yesterdays action in golf shows worrying signs that iran may be choosing a dangerous path of illegal and destabilizing behavior after gibraltars legal detention of oil bound for syria. As i said yesterday, our reaction will be considered but robust. We have been trying to find a way to resolve grace 1 issue but will ensure the safe of the issue. And following the story for us, what more are you hearing from why the ship was stopped . Reporter what i can hear is that the escalation of this started and they are just referring to the technical problems and damage inflicted to a fishing vessel. And polluting the sea by dumping crude oil residue and wrong pattern to enter the hormuz strait. That is the technical part of it. And the escalation also started but the problem is deescalation process is one step forward and twisted backward. The director of the shipping operations announced that the crew must be interrogated. And tells you if the office deems it necessary. So, it can be i mean, contributing to the increasing again desperation of intentions. If the interrogation happens, and if the crew are forced to leave their boat and be intervi interviewed in banda abbas. But it depends what happens in the coming hours but so far deescalated and twisted back to escalating intentions by interrogating the crew of the british vessel. And well see if this back and forth continues. Certainly, the volatility is there. We appreciate your time and perspective on this today, thank you. Well talk more about it with the chair of the contemporary middle east studies at the London School of economics joining us from lon n london. And a foremost expert on iran. Always glad to have you with us. First up, britain warned friday there would be serious consequences if iran does not release that flagged tanker. Is iran wanting to push things here to the break. Iran is engaged in what i call a calculated escalation. Iran is trying to increase the costs, the socalled maximum pressure policy by the Trump Administration. So in this particular sense, iran is engaged in major risks. But the context for the seizure of the british flagged vessel is very important. This is a direct retaliation by the iranians against what they perceive to be an illegal act by britain on the fourth of july. One britain seized the iranian supertanker grace 1. The iranian leaders including the Supreme Leader khamenei made it clear that the seizure of the ships on fourth of july will not go unpunished. So my take on the question, to summarize my answer, is that iran sends a clear message that it has the will and the means to retaliate. My take on it is that iran will use the seizure of the british flagged vessel in order to free its own super tanker which has more than 2 Million Barrels of oil and its confinement has been extended it was extended by 30 days yesterday. This was the last straw that broke the camels back. Will. For, fawaz, what could deescalate the situation, as it seems to turn more dangerous . Well, the irony is that the european powers including brit, germany and france are engaged in a very desperate effort to escalate. They are squeezed between a hot rock. The Trump Administration, and a hard place, that is iran, which is engaged in a very rink risk escalation in order to get outside of the squeeze of which it finds itself. The problem here, to answer the question directly is the Trump Administration is very coherent. On one hand, the Trump Administration says it does not want a military confrontation with iran. On the other hand, the Trump Administration is waging Economic Warfare towards iran. The iranians are hurting. Price of basic food dmcommoditi, eggs, milk, has skyrocketed. And iran does not have the time. While the president does not really want war, the hardliner, the team around President Trump keep escalating and really pushing iran. So we are really stuck in this particular position. The United States is trying to basically squeeze. And the iranian economy and the iranians are pushing back. And it would take a it will take, basically, a spark to trigger a bigger fire in that particular strategic region, in particular in the gulf and the straight of hormuz. Yes, many have said this is the most dangerous theyve seen this region in some while. But both sides, iran and the u. S. Have given indication they would be willing to negotiate, but theyre not, because theyre not on the same page. President trump, though, says he wants a better deal. What chance would iran concede to that if talks were to somehow owe occur through some side channel . Well, i mean, we do not really know what President Trump wants. He keeps saying we want iran not to have a nuclear weapon. Thats fine. But the nuclear deal that was signed by six the six great powers including president barack obama had frozen the Iranian Nuclear deal for 15 years. So, iran was not engaged in Nuclear Activities when President Trump decided to unilaterally bankly exit the nuclear deal. There are some legitimate concerns by the european powers and the United States. In particular, iranian activities in the neighborhood. Irans intervention in syria, in iraq, in other places. And also there are legitimate activities around irans ballistic missile. But why exit the deal . Why not basically try to engage iran and threaten iran with consequences before you unfreeze the Iranian Nuclear deal . At the end of the day, i think the stakes are very high. And given the fact that neither side wants war, both sides are positioning themselves for negotiation. That means, compromise and concessions by both sides. The question for me, will President Trump use the economic sanctions as a bargaining card in order to really get iran to the negotiating table with releasing, by allowing iran to export some of its oil, to the international community, just to give your viewers a glimpse of what were talking about. Last year, iran was exporting about 3 Million Barrels of oil. Iran today exports less than 250 barrels a day. Huge, huge decline in oil exports. And thats why, i mean, i think if the sanctions are reduced a bit, youre going to see iran coming to the table. And this is how the escalation might happen. And this is what the european powers are trying to do. My fear is iran risks driving the european powers into trumps embrace if it takes the action of the past few weeks. It all seems like an unnecessary conflict created by President Trump. We always appreciate your insights. Thank you so much. Thanks. Well be right back, after this. 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Hes the author of the book i was a teenage space reporter from Paolo U Apollo 11 to our f space. He joins us live from illinois. So wonderful to have you you david. Thank you. Thanks for having me. You were the only collegiate journalist with official nasa credentials to cover the launch for the teenage press. You were 19. How was that experience, just, first of all, getting selected, and knowing you would be able to write the story for a big College Press service . Well, it was really a lifechanging experience. I was an eyewitness to history 50 years ago. And the memories were so vivid, that it seems like it was last week instead of five decades ago. Thats a wonderful thing to say. Were looking at pictures from your book, i believe. And the news conferences there. And you got to sit there among all of these adult journalists. As i understand, you had access to most everything. Launchpads, rocket, including the astronauts. Did you get to interview them . Well, i didnt get to interview the apollo 11 crew because he was in isolation. But i was at the site of a press conference before the launch, in which the astronauts were interviewed remotely by a group of five journalists including cbs Walter Cronkite at the time. How about that one. Thats fascinating. And what were you thinking at this time when you were down there and seeing this entire process . And what was the most fascinating part of it, if you could give us some examples just being there experiencing and writing about it . Well, it was amazing for someone who is 19 years old to see the incredible infrastructure that had been built by nasa. The Vehicle Assembly building to stack and get ready the rocket which was one of the biggest buildings in the world. The Launch Control center which has the best of 1969 technology, which was very impressive then, although it seems quite primitive now. One of the surprising things to me, in retrospect, was how we were able to get to the moon with relatively primitive technology. Right. I was going to ask you about that. Because looking back, and you think of that achievement, no one probably in 2019 would recognize the technology and the computers that they used to do this feat. Right. Well, one of the positive benefits of the Space Program has been that it spawned the whole computer industry. The smallest computers then, before project apollo were the size of three or four refrigerators. And they had to develop a small computer to guide the lunar module to land on the moon. So they developed something equaled the apollo guidance computer. Which was this small kind of a small shoe box size. And all of us have that on this computer but to get them to successfully land on the moon. And they did it. I was a reporter for Cape Canaveral many years ago covering the hubble space scope. And the vehicle you that mention said so gigantic. The shuttles are relatively small in the building compared to being built for the saturn 5 rocket. When the actual blast happened, where were you standing in the press area with other News Reporters . Well, thats where we started out. But a friend and i, we took a special bus to whats called the vip area. Nasa had invited over 5,000 guests from all different walks of life to dot launch. Ranging from former president Lyndon Johnson and his wife lady bird, to entertains like Johnny Carson and ed mcmahon. So i watched the launch from there. It was a little bit over three miles in the launchpad. Everybody had to stay at least three miles away because if there was any problem with the rocket booster that explodes, if you were closer than three miles, you faced almost certain injury and or death. Yes, one last question, when it blasted off, how loud was it even three miles away . Well, it was the most overwhelming physical sensation. The sound waves from it lilt really pounded my chest. There was vibration on the ground. The ground shook. We could feel actually the heat from the rocket boosters. And the sound was so loud and crackling its been compared to 100 locomotives. Its something that 50 years later, i can just feel the sensation still. What a wonderful experience for you. And thank you for sharing some of your moments with that experience. David chudwin and the author of the book i was a teenage space reporter from apollo 11 to our future in space. Ive been reading the excerpts. Everyone loves the book. Im going to go get it. David thank you so much. Youre quite welcome. Sweet man. I love the vintage video. Cant get enough of it. Thank you for joining us, im Natalie Allen. And im george howell. The news continues here on cnn after the break. So bob, what do you take for back pain . Before i take anything, i apply topical pain relievers first. Salonpas lidocaine patch blocks pain receptors for effective, nonaddictive relief. Salonpas lidocaine. 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