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Full senate vote, but he also has a spending bill to pass, and hes pressuring democrats to fall into line. He tweeted this. After north korea Missile Launch, its more important than ever to fund our government and military. Democrats shouldnt hold troop funding hostage for amnesty and illegal immigration. Well, north koreas latest missile appears to be its most advanced yet, and they proudly declared just that on state media. The u. S. Defense secretary voiced his concerns with their step forward. It went higher, frankly, than any previous shot theyve taken. Its a research and Development Effort on their part to continue building Ballistic Missiles that can threaten everywhere in the world basically. But the bottom line is its a continued effort to build a threat, a Ballistic Missile threat that endangers world peace, regional peace, and certainly United States. And to be more specific on the height, the missile went through multiple layers of the earths atmosphere, soaring well beyond the common line, which is generally considered the start of outer space. South korea launched a precision missile strike drill in response just minutes afterwards, and the u. N. Security council is set to hold an emergency meeting on wednesday. Our paula newton joins us live now from seoul, south korea, with more on this. Paula, the International Community is on edge understandably. What more do we know about pyongyangs latest intercontinental Ballistic Missile, and what more are you learning about its capabilities . Reporter well, its capability is quite menacing. Whats key here is that it has in a very short span of time basically improved on its last icbm test. And as you just noted, i mean this thing was in the air longer than the last one. And as you pointed out, it went for a great distance. What does this mean . It means that even the United States agrees it can hit almost anywhere in the world now. What is interesting, though, is that north korea chose to underscore the fact that it was a heavy payload on it, that this would mean that they feel as if they would now be capable of putting a nucleartipped missile into the air. Now, they are not there yet although south korean officials here have been intimating for a few days now that they believe that north korea gets ever closer to, in its words, completing its nuclear phase, and that would really be a gamechanger, rosemary. It would mean that north korea would come to the table in any negotiation as a nuclear state. Yeah, and i wanted to talk to you about that because north korean officials have told cnn that theyre not interested in diplomacy with the United States. Is that just bluster, or is there still that possibility that once pyongyang does reach its Nuclear Capability, then it may very well come to the table and talk diplomacy . Reporter we should absolutely take them at their word in terms of what they feel that they are able to do in the next few months when it comes to those nuclear tests. You know our will ripley continues to talk to officials in that government. He believes that is the end goal and that they are capable of it now. In fact, it may be a matter of timing of when they feel it will give them the most political leverage. I think whats key here is that for one of the first times, the roadmap for north korea seems quite clear. What does not seem so clear is what the United States and its allies in the region are going to do now. We of course had that muted response, as you say, from donald trump. And yet south korea certainly is feeling uneasy and feels as if the International Community should be moving towards some kind of dialogue with north korea at the very least. And, paula, apparently north korea is talking about its next test. What are you learning about that . Reporter well, theyre saying that they will do what they have done before, which is have a nuclear test, and that would be quite a provocation. Again, the point is here not only will the missile be able to reach parts of the of the u. S. Mainland and beyond, but to have it nucleartipped. They havent mastered what they call the reentry phase to make sure that once the missile is in the air, that it can again come down. What were discussing here is plainly apocalyptic, rosemary. We have to make that clear. Obviously an absolutely worst case scenario. The point is they want to prove they have that tnechnology, tha they can successfully test that technology because they believe that will put them in a sure footing when it comes to negotiating with the United States and other countries in asia. Again, to be clear, the kim regime has its survival at its very heart and they believe if they are not nuclear armed, that the regime will fall. Yeah, it has those in south korea uneasy. It has the rest of the world incredibly uneasy. Just after 5 00 there in seoul. Many thanks to our paula newton for that live report. Lets bring in daniel pinkston, he is an International Relations scholar at Troy University and has extensively studied north korea and its Missile Program. The South Koreans identified this latest missile as the hwasong 14, but the North Koreans came out and said it was the hwasong 15, a missile weve never heard of before. Is their program advancing at a faster pace than anticipated, and what could this mean going forward, do you think . Well, they have been making rapid progress over the past couple of years. North Korea State Television came out today and announced that this was a hwasong 15. Its probably a modified hwasong 14. Some of the missile engineers are speculating that its a modified secondstage, which gives it extended range. Its a mobile missile, and according to the north korean claims, it could strike anywhere in the United States, including the continental u. S. Now, this launch happened at an unusual time, in the middle of the night local time. What does that signal to you . Well, its north koreas attempt to show that it can operate these missiles at nighttime and to operate and conduct these operations in the dark, and that gives them the possible opportunity to exploit the element of surprise. So if they can launch from anywhere, anyplace during the night, it makes it more difficult to see or find the missiles during military conflict, and it gives them greater survivability of course. And you mention what you consider to be rapid progress on the part of north korea. And of course this latest intercontinental Ballistic Missile, theres the possibility it could reach as far as washington, d. C. Where are we with this . What do you think north korea is planning here . Well, i think sometimes we need to step back and look at the whole spectrum of asymmetric capabilities that north korea has. We have to remember that any type of military capability is connected to political objectives. So north korea, once they acquire these capabilities, they have to develop a doctrine and a posture. So they have to think about under what conditions they would use these capabilities and against whom and to achieve what. So north korea is a dissatisfied state. They have a number of Political Goals they would like to achieve. So under certain conditions, they can reach for cyber warfare, electronic warfare, artillery, special operations forces, chemical weapons, Nuclear Weapons, and so forth. So we have to think of how these capabilities fit into that mix of this Broad Spectrum of capabilities and what they might use it for. So i think that the North Koreans are using this or would use it for a deterrent. They would likely reach for their Nuclear Arsenal early in a conventional conflict once they began to suffer unacceptable losses and it looks like the regime is going to go down in a conventional war, then i think they might reach for their Nuclear Weapons. Sobering outlook there. Daniel pinkston, thank you so much for your analysis on this. We do appreciate it. My pleasure. Senate republicans are hoping to deliver donald trump his first major legislative victory of his presidency in the form of a tax reform plan. The Budget Committee approved the measure tuesday after the president visited capitol hill for a little negotiating. The bill now heads to the full senate. Meanwhile, talks to avert a Government Shutdown next week didnt go as planned at the white house. Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi skipped a meeting with mr. Trump after he tweeted earlier tuesday he did not see them reaching any deal. Michael jen Michael Genovese is a political analyst. Good to have you with us. Republicans pushing for the tax reform bill are celebrating it got through committee. Of course the big test will be on the senate floor. Heres how the Senate Majority leader described the next steps. Lets listen. Its a challenging exercise. Think of sitting there with a rub rubics cube, trying to get to 50. We do have a few members who have concerns and were trying to address them. We know well not be able to go forward until we get 50 people satisfied, and thats what were working on. A challenging exercise. There are, of course, still a number of them sitting on the fence. What does Mitch Mcconnell need to do to get this bill passed . Well, it was a victory, a small one because its simply another step in the process. But senators johnson and corker, who are opposed in varying degrees to this bill, let it out of committee. That means its going to go to the full senate, and thats where Mitch Mcconnell takes over. He has very little wiggle room, very little room to maneuver. But the president is desperate to get something, anything passed because he has no legislative victories. Hes got to have one before the end of the year. So members of the senate are beginning to roll him. Theyre beginning to demand that some of their pet projects be included or other things taken out. So the president is in a vulnerable position. Mitch mcconnell is in a tough position. They have to come up with something. But even when they come up with is going to be part of the process, an ongoing process. The house and the senate would then have to reconcile those bills if the senate passes. Of course republicans have done most of their work and lobbying on this bill along partisan lines, which puts them at a disadvantage now because a number of republican senators still are not sold on this bill as we mentioned. Why are we seeing so much partisanship on the hill right now, do you think . Well, this morning the president tweeted a very derogatory slap at both senator schumer and representative pelosi, who were supposed to be at the meeting today. They were noshows and the president had two empty chairs. Why is it partisan today . Weve been highly partisan and dysfunctionally partisan for almost two decades now, and our tribal loyalties take precedence over good policy. So, you know, when president obama was in office, the republicans were almost unanimous in opposing him. The democrats are returning the favor to the republicans now that trumps in office. Those meager efforts to be bipartisan were meager, and it failed. Yeah, and of course the other big agenda for lawmakers is reaching a deal to avoid a Government Shutdown. You mentioned this. The president was supposed to hold talks with Democratic Leaders Chuck Schumer and nancy pelosi tuesday. They backed out of the meeting after mr. Trump tweeted he doesnt foresee a deal with them. Chuck schumer and nancy pelosi did not show up for our meeting today. Im not really that surprised. We have a lot of differences. Theyre weak on crime. Theyre weak on illegal immigration. They want the illegal folks to come pouring into our border, and a lot of problems are being caused although weve stopped it to a large extent, as much as you can without the wall, which were going to get. And nancy pelosi tweeted this shortly after, saying in rt pa, his empty chair photo showed hes more interested in stunts than in addressing the needs of the american people. Paul ryan, she said, and mcconnell relegated to props. Sad. So how does any of this backandforth help get any deal done . Well, it helps donald trump with his base, but thats a very narrow assistance. What he really needs is not necessarily democrats but to get the republicans onboard. And youve got the republicans who are in the tea party, trump coalition, would want a draconian bill. Then youve got the Establishment Republicans who want a less onerous bill. But when you start the day as trump did insulting your rival party, you cant expect them to come to the table and break bread. Is it possible that the decision by schumer and pelosi to back out of their meeting with the president tuesday will possibly help unite republicans to help get this bill passed . I dont think its going to have much of an impact at all. I think theyre expecting schumer and pelosi to, if they showed up, not to be very relevant. I think thats kind of in the background. The real battle is in the caucus of the republican party. Its going to be within the senate squeezing so that they dont lose johnson, they dont lose corker, they dont lose one other vote. Theyre on a very, very thin margin. The battle is in the republican party, not in the Democratic Party and not even with the democrats. Michael jgenovese, thanks fo coming on the show. We appreciate it. Senate republicans say they expect to vote on their tax cut bill this week, but some still have concerns about the impact on the federal deficit. The Nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office projects the plan will add 1. 4 trillion to the deficit over the next ten years. Cnns tom foreman has more on that. 666 billion this year after all is said and done, thats what the Congressional Budget Office says the deficit will work out to. The difference between how much money the government takes in and how much it is going to spend. And if the republican plan goes through, the cbo says its going to jump substantially. If you average it over the next ten years to about 807 billion per year. For budget hawks, that is a big, scary number. And considering that republicans have always considered themselves hawkish on spending, why would they risk Something Like this knowing that their base could punish them badly if it doesnt go well . Just look at the history of the deficit and public reactions to it, and you can see why. Back around 2000, the deficit was relatively low, 300 billion to 400 billion per year. And public concern about it, down about half. 50 , 52 of the people saying its a very serious matter. You move forward, into the recession in 2008, and suddenly as president obama tries to wrestle with it, the deficit jumps much, much higher, and concern does too. 75 of people then saying big issue here. But then the economy starts improving under president obama. It continues doing so under President Trump. The deficit drops back down, and once again the level of concern is down to around the halfway point. Are people still concerned about the deficit . Sure, they are. But a recent survey by pew found that more than half the people dont believe there will be progress reducing the deficit in the next five years anyway. So its like a family using a credit card saying, we should not be using this so much, but were not sure how to do that, so were just getting used to the idea of spending this way. And this is what the republicans are betting on. Theyre betting that as many people out there would like to keep the deficit low, as much as they would like that, many more will like the idea of the promise of lower taxes, and thats what the republicans think will be the winning play here. Tom foreman with that report. Well take a short break here. Still to come, another woman comes forward, and the pressure builds on a u. S. Congressman to resign. The details on the latest accusations against john conyers. Plus President Trumps former chief strategist will hit the campaign trail in alabamas Controversial Senate race. We will look at Steve Bannons next move. Well have that in just a moment. Any object. Any surface. If youve got a life you gotta swiffer and im the founder of ugmonk. 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The chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus says he had a candid conversation with the democratic congressman but said any decision to resign from office is conyers to make. Conyers has admitted reaching a financial settlement with one accuser but denies the harassment allegations. A new accusation surfaced tuesday from a former staffer in conyers detroit office. The woman worked in the District Office from 1997 until 2005. She said the office had a sexually suggestive culture, and she made reports to a House Committee on official conduct. She described one incident where she was told to drive conyers to the airport. He was driving erratically. He was a terrible driver, erratically. Thank god he was erratic, okay, because his hand was feeling me all over my what do you call it . My abdomen, okay . That area while he was driving. And i thought, oh, my god, what am i going to do . Well, meanwhile, Alabama Senate candidate roy moore will get some help on the campaign trail from former white house strategist steve bannon. Several women have accused moore of pursuing them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s. One accuses him of sexual abuse when she was 14. Moore denies all the allegations. Alex marquardt reports on the heated race between moore and his democratic challenger. Reporter in what has turned into a grueling highstakes race, the president has made clear he prefers the prospect of an accused child abuser in the senate than a democrat like doug jones. I can tell you one thing for sure. We dont need a liberal person in there, a democrat, jones. Ive looked at his record. Its terrible on crime. Its terrible on the border. Its terrible in the military. Reporter trump has emphasized that moore has denied all of the accusations, but those views are repeated by supporters of roy moore like conservative activist ann yew bank. Conservatives do not believe in open borders and conservatives believe that a childs life is more important than a womans choice. Reporter today jones defended those accusations. How do you respond to the president and to roy moore and his supporters who say that you are terrible on crime, terrible on immigration . Well, i tell people to look at my record and see what ive done, you know, as a former assistant u. S. Attorney, a former u. S. Attorney, we prosecuted tons of people. Look at my record. Dont just listen to a tweet. Dont listen to somebody make a statement. Reporter when it comes to crime, jones made his name as a u. S. Attorney, prosecuting one of the most tragic attacks in alabama history, the bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in 1963 that left four young girls dead, two members of the ku klux klan were convicted. Jones is more conservative than Many Democrats in washington, but for alabama, hes about as left as they come. Under fire from many alabamians for his views on abortion. I am a Firm Believer that a woman should have the freedom to choose what happens to her own body, and im going to stand up for that. Reporter moore supporters jumped on jones for saying he wouldnt back legislation banning abortions after 20 weeks. Later walking it back, saying lateterm abortions should only be for medical emergencies. On immigration, he has criticizes the president s plan for a wall on the Mexican Border and has supported the socalled daca program for the children of undocumented immigrants. He calls himself a Second Amendment guy, but has called for more stringent background checks for gun buyers, all positions that trump and moore have seized on and wh i dont think hes done a good job of coming out and saying this is what i stand for. Clearly i think what he believes and his campaign believes he needs to do is sit back and hope that roy moore implodes. I think as we get closer to election day, thats probably not going to be enough. Reporter alex marquardt, cnn, birmingham, alabama. New developments in the investigation into a string of killings in florida. Four people in tampa were shot to death separately in the past month and a half. The shootings all happened less than a mile from each other. Police now plan to charge a suspect. They arrested a 24yearold man after he brought a gun to a mcdonalds fast food restaurant. The four victims were killed but not robbed while waiting at a bus stop or just walking alone at night. At this point, the motive is not clear. More ahead on north koreas most alarming Missile Launch yet. Why u. S. Leaders say it puts the two countries on a collision course. Donald trump is a little closer to something he really wants, a bill he can sign into law. How his tax cut plan made its way to the senate floor. Well have that and more when we return. Stay with us. 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S. , south korean, and Japanese Military Officials Say this launch was of an intercontinental Ballistic Missile, the most powerful rocket the rogue nation has, one capable of entering space and striking its enemies from thousands of miles away. Sources say it flew east off the north korean coast and was in the air for about 50 minutes. It traveled about 620 miles, reaching a higher altitude than kim jonguns major icbm test in july and splashed down inside japans exclusive economic zone. The waters off japans coasts where it has the right to fish and explore. Theyre reminding the United States, theyre reminding japan that she have been quite earnest in increasing the range and capabilities of characteristics of their missile force. Reporter kims regime has tested missiles this year at a furious pace. This makes 23 missiles launched in 16 tests since february. But the North Koreans had been fairly quiet recently, not testing a missile in more than two months. So why now . This could be a reaction to political events like being put on the u. S. List of terror sponsors or other recent condemnations of north korea. It could be shaping ahead of the Winter Olympics in south korea this winter. Probably more likely, its just part of north koreas ongoing Missile Program and their development of missiles that ultimately will be able to strike north korea. Reporter despite repeated pressure from the president and a recent Diplomatic Mission by china, kim jongun has made it clear he is not backing down. Instead, the North Koreans have been accelerating every aspect of their weapons programs, testing a massive Hydrogen Bomb in september, finetuning their rocket fuels and engines, and honing their targeting and guidance systems. The u. S. Believes kim and his generals could be able to place a miniaturized warhead on top of a missile sometime next year. Experts say theyre just a couple of steps away from demonstrating a fullfledged capability to hit the continental u. S. With a nucleartipped missile. The one thing they could do to demonstrate an end to end Nuclear Capability is to put an actual Nuclear Weapon on the top of a missile and fire it off into the pacific and actually detonate it out there somewhere. To get there, we think there might be a couple things to work out such as miniaturization and reentry so that it actually gets through the atmosphere without burning up. Reporter analysts say north koreas next major provocation may in fact be placing a Nuclear Warhead on top of a missile and detonating it somewhere over the Pacific Ocean in an aboveground test. They say if that happens, thats a gamechanger which may force the u. S. , south korea, and japan to consider a military response. Brian todd, cnn, washington. And while the u. S. Is rightly concerned, so too are north koreas regional neighbors including japan. A journalist joins us from tokyo with more on this. Of course north koreas latest missile flew higher and father than any earlier test and landed near japan. What was the reaction in that country to another missile landing so close . Well, rosemary, japan woke up to this news this morning. It was very unusual for north korea to launch a missile in the middle of the night. Local time, just after 3 00. So many citizens woke up to yet another Missile Launch in japan after repeated similar moves throughout the year. For the last few weeks, japanese citizens in particular and the government have been very concerned about the silence from north korea since the middle of september. And this week in particular, officials have sounded increasingly cautious about the possibility of fresh provocations from north korea. But as you pointed out and as analysts have been pointing out, this is a new type of missile supposedly from north korea, an intercontinental Ballistic Missile that flew very high, at a very steep trajectory, reaching as high as 4,000 kilometers, plus according to many aofficials around the world, and flying rolonger than previous launches, just over 50 minutes. It splashed down into japans waters. These are exclusive Economic Zones off the northern shore of japan. This time about 200 kilometers off akita prefecture which is the northwestern part of japan. The japanese government was very quick to condemn the move. The prime minister, shinzo abe, having a telephone conversation about a few hours after this launch with the u. S. President , donald trump, reaffirming their commitment to try and rein in on north korea. But at the same time, echoing the language that the two leaders had during their discussions when donald trump was here in japan earlier this month, saying it was very crucial to involve china in these negotiations. The people on the street here in japan, they are concerned, and they woke up to this news today. But i have to tell you that they are concerned, but its not dominate ing everyday conversatn today like it has in the past. Perhaps its because there have been 15 tests all together this year alone. This is the fifth time that a missile has fallen into japanese waters this year alone. So perhaps in some way, theyre getting used to the idea. But i also think this times a little bit different because the japanese government did not alert citizens through a security alert system as they have in the past, whats known as a jalert system where they have mobile phones ringing in areas that they feel might be vulnerable or loudspeakers in Public Places announcing an imminent threat. That didnt happen this time as it has in the past. Perhaps thats part of the reason people feel a little bit more a little bit less cautious as they have in the pass. Sure, they are concerned. But i think after these repeated attempts by north korea, people are starting to get used to the idea that possibly this threat is going to be around for some time to come. I think all eyes will be on the u. N. Security Council Meeting scheduled for later today and the possibility that the japanese government may announce yet another new round of sanctions against north korea. Rosemary . Many thanks to you, joining us there from tokyo. A jury in the u. S. Has convicted a suspect in the attacks on a u. S. Diplomatic compound in libya five years ago. Prosecutors say ahmed abu ca tal la helped orchestrate the attacks which killed four u. S. Citizens, including the u. S. Ambassador to libya. The former militia leader was found guilty of terrorismrelated charges but was found not guilty of murder charges. He displayed no emotion while the verdict was read out, and he now faces life in prison. Just this quick programming note for our international viewers, cnns exclusive reporting on the slave auctions in libya is getting attention all around the world with protests in new york, london, and paris. Be sure to catch our cnn talk special presentation featuring our reporters who broke that story, and that is coming up at noon in london, 4 00 p. M. In abu dhabi. Well, President Trumps tax cut plan clears a major hurdle. Still to come, why it could still be in danger as it moves to the senate floor. Were back with that in just a moment. You wont see these folks at the post office. They have businesses to run. They have passions to pursue. How do they avoid trips to the post office . Stamps. 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He was on capitol hill tuesday urging republican senators to support his plan to overhaul the u. S. Tax code. Apparently it worked. The senate Budget Committee voted along party lines to pass it. We had a good day today. We had a phenomenal meeting with the republican senators. We had it was very special, that meeting. In many respects, i wish you could have been inside that room. It was very, very special. The camaraderie. It was somewhat of a love fest. The bill is moving full steam to the senate floor, and thats left some democrats fuming, saying its being railroaded through. Lawmakers debated the tax plan on cnn. You want to raise taxes. We want to cut taxes. Theres not a compromise. You basically, you have just told people, were not going to work with you because we think you will do thus and such. Thats not the way politicians is supposed to work. Not one democrat would work with us. Open the damn door and the door is open. Whoa, whoa. The door is open. We dont have a lock on the door. No locks. If we can then postpone this vote, this week no, were not going to delay. Youve been obstructing for a year. If tim wants to talk about helping the middle class and working class in this country, lets do it. Cnn Global Economic analyst rana faruha joins me now to break down this tax reform plan. Great to talk with you again. Thank you. So i do want to start by asking you who are the big winners under this tax reform bill . Well, the biggest winner is corporate america. The action in this tax plan is really in Corporate Tax cuts. Not only are they huge, but theyre permanent. So if you look at the way in which Corporate Tax cuts are going to be permanent versus the way in which individual tax cuts would phase out over time, theres a really divide there between the Way Companies are being treated and the way individual taxpayers are being treated, and thats very different than, say, the reagan era, which, you know, the Trump Administration likes to refer back a lot to and compare its own tax plan with what happened then. So, i mean, when you look at middle america, when theyre looking at this, theyre thinking, well, im not going to get anything out of this. How likely is it that this tax reform bill will pass . Well, its really interesting. You know, theoretically, this should have been a walk in the park, right . I mean its a majority republican congress. The tax cuts are something republicans, you know, won on. This is one of their big platform planks. But the fact that you have had, until the last day or so, eight republican holdouts, saying we cant vote for this plan for a variety of reasons. One, some of them think its going to put too much on the deficit. Two, some think its not doing enough for small business. Three, some of them dont like the fact that the republicans and the white house is trying to piggy a repeal of obamacare on the back of this tax plan. All of these things are in play. So youve still got as of today, although this could change, about six republican holdouts. And as i say, you can only have two holdouts and actually pass this plan. Now, you mentioned the deficit, lets look at the numbers. The Nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office studied the Senate Republican bill, and they say it would increase the federal budget deficit by 1. 4 trillion over the next decade. The republicans who support this bill dispute that, of course. Whats your take on those numbers . Well, you know, one of the tricky things is that republicans, when they calculate how this plan is going to work, they use something called dynamic scoring, this idea that tax cuts themselves are going to somehow unleash animal spirits, bolster growth, make Companies Start investing. But if you look at the historical data, thats not really the case. You know, in the 1960s, we had a Corporate Tax rate that was about 50 . By 1988, it was 35 , around about what it is now. This disinvestment did not go up. In fact it started to go down by the late 1980s. So i just dont see the proof even recently in 2001, 2003, 2008 and 2009. You didnt see tax cuts really creating growth that would ultimately spur main street jobs. And i just dont see the evidence thats going to happen again. And republicans who are for this tax reform bill, they say it would encourage companies to bring their business back to the United States. Mr. Trump talked about that earlier tuesday. Lets take a listen. Money offshore thats stagnant, that companies, theyre just not able to bring it back. I think its going to be a number over 4 trillion. Corporate will be able to compete now against the world. So, rana, is there evidence to support that theory . Do you see Companies Bringing jobs back if they get a break on taxes . Well, bringing jobs back and bringing money back are two different things. So we actually have a little experiment in real life that we did. In 2004, we had a tax repatriation. The Corporate Tax rate was slashed so companies could bring back money from overseas. They did bring that money back, but most of it went into share buybacks. They handed out dividends to wealthy investors. But that investment did not get translated into mainstream jobs. I would just note last week, gary c gary cohen was at a Conference Full of ceos and the moderator asked, how many of you if theres a tax plan that gets through in the next three weeks are going to actually reinvest . And only about three hands went up. And cohen looked rather surprised or maybe feigned surprise. But i am not convinced, based on history and based on what im hearing from global multinational ceos that theres going to be a huge surge in jobs. Thank you so much. Always great to get your analysis. Appreciate it. Thank you so much. Well take a short break here. Still to come, President Trumps attacks on senator Elizabeth Warrens heritage now raising questions about what he said about his own family background. Were back with that in just a moment. Basement guest bathroom. Your privacy makes you my number 1 place to go number 2. I love you, but sometimes you stink. Febreze air effects doesnt just mask, it cleans away odors. Because the things you love the most can stink. And try febreze small spaces to clean away odors for up to 30 days. Breathe happy with febreze. Hi, im the internet you knoarmless bowling. Lt . Ahhhhhhhh you know whats easy . Building your website with godaddy. 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Other than fraud of course. Senator warren has said she never used her heritage to advance her career, but its possible the trump family has embellished its own past for financial gain. Thats according to multiple reports. Our Jason Carroll explains. They call her pocahontas. Reporter Donald Trumps attacks on senator Elizabeth Warren for claiming shes part native american are raising some questions about what trump has said about his own heritage. In the 1987 autobiography the art of the deal trump claimed his grandfather was swedish. He wrote, fred trump was born in new jersey in 1903. His father, who came here from sweden as a child, owned a moderately successful restaurant. Turns out his grandfather was not from sweden but germany. In 1990, trump was vague about the issue, telling vanity fair, my father was not german. My fathers parents were german, swedish, and really sort of all over europe. When i met with him in 2015, we tried to unravel this. Michael dantonio, author of the book, the truth about trump, gave us a recording of his exchange with trump about his heritage. There was a short period of time when your dad and then you talked about being swedish instead of being german. Well, there is some swedish in there someplace. Do you think he swwas sensite to it could have been. I never asked him that question. It could have been. But my father was german. The family lore is similar to warrens own description of how she says she learned of her heritage. My brothers and i learned from our mother and our daddy and our grandparents who we are. Reporter in 2016, one of trumps cousins said the family hid its german heritage in part to make it easier to sell apartments to jewish tenants. That cousin, john walter, telling the boston globe, you dont sell apartments after the war if youre german. When reached by phone, a representative for walter told cnn he would not discuss the family heritage. In 1999, trump was grand marshal of the german american parade in new york city and in recent years as spoken openly about his german roots. My grandfather, frederick trump, came to the United States in 1885. He joined the great gold rush and instead of gold, he decided to open up some hotels in sla alaska. Im a proud german american. Enjoy the parade. Reporter dantonio says given trumps own revised history. Its hypocritical for anyone whose own story about his background has been confused at best and manipulated at worst to criticize anyone else who may have been mistaken. Jason carroll, cnn, new york. The grammy nominations are in and this time around, it is hard to complain about a lack of diversity. Musics biggest night has been criticized in recent years for the dominance of white nominees. This year, veteran rapper jayz leads all artists with eight nominations including record, album, and song of the year. Kendrick lamar has seven nods, and bruno mars has six. 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