Trail after prime time network town halls last night. Both answered tough questions and both evaded tough questions. Asked about Court PackingDemocrat Joe Biden said stay tuned. I have not been a fan of Court Packing because it generates, whoever wins keep moving in a way that is inconsistent with what is going to be manageable. Youre still not a fan . Not a fan. It depends on how this turns out. Now how he wins but how its handled. How its handled. That is a policy question mark. This is a question of decency. The president asked by Savannah Guthrie if he rejects the qanon conspiracy theorists that support him. Believers say the government is run by satan worshipping pedophiles. Remember the president called the qanon believer running for congress a real winner and a future republican star. Last night the president of the United States pleading ignorance. I denounce White Supremacy, okay. I denounced White Supremacy for years. Republican senator ben sasse said, quote, qanon is nuts and real leaders call conspiracy theories, conspiracy theories. Why not say its not true. I dont know about qanon. You do know. I dont know. I dont know. Let me ask you another thing. The coronavirus also a big town hall topic. The president said hes been right from the beginning. Joe biden said the incumbent was a disaster from day one and is to this very day. The numbers speak for themselves. Thursday 63,000 plus new cases. The United States topping that 60,000 mark for the First Time Since the middle of august. 26 states reported more than 1,000 new infections on thursday. The president said we are on the way down. That is a lie. Listen to a close ally who got infected at the trump white house, a white house that ignores basic science and basic common sense. I was doing it right for seven months and avoided the virus. I let my guard down for a couple of days inside the white house grounds and it cost me in a significant way. Lets take a closer look at the numbers right now. You go through it, again ill bring back up the map. Red and orange are bed. You see a lot of red and orange. New mexico, that means 50 more new infections compared to last week. Thats the deep red. The rest are orange. 31 states reporting between 10 and 50 more new infections than a week ago. 32 states trending in the wrong direction. 15 states the beige holding steady. Only 3 states reporting lower covid infections now than a week ago. A lo of states headed in the wrong direction. Yesterday, the deeper the color the higher the number. You see a big problem across the plains, the case numbers arent as high but deep ercolors in florida, north carolina, texas as well, california as well. States having an increasing problem as the weather gets colder. Nine states setting records on thursday. Nine new infection records on thursday. Thought we were through it, were going back up a hill. A lot concentrated in the midwest, colorado and new mexico as well. If you come back through now, this is what we have lived the last eight months. In april, up the summer surge, look, 77,000 the peak of the summer surge, 64,000 in august. Right back at that yesterday. Came down from the summer surge, unmistakab unmistakable. Look at the red lines. Going back up a hill. Thats what the Public Health experts said we need to avoid. With case counts going up, the death trend tends to follow. At the moment the blue line is flat but you see a number of days the red is above the blue line. Lets hope it does not tick back up, but thats the pattern. A flat line now, projections are that will go back up, some say it will pass 1,000 and do it soon. You want the Positivity Rate, americans take a coronavirus test, the percentage come back positive 6. 3 . You want it below 5. Above 5 tells you you have an outbreak. 6. 3 . It was below 5 a couple weeks ago nationally. The number shoved back up because of this. Look at the colors, the deeper the color, the higher the positivity, 36 in colorado. 20 iowa. 16 indiana. 15 alabama, florida back in double digits at 12 . If you have double digit Positivity Rates, that more cases today, more people who can spread which gets you more cases tomorrow. This is obviously a giant Public Health crisis for the country. Its also the defining question in the president ial campaign. At the town halls last night, different answers to the question, how are we doing . What weve done has been amazing. Weve done an amazing job. And its rounding the corner, and we have the vaccines coming and we have the therapies coming. We missed enormous opportunities and kept saying things that werent true. Its going to go away by easter, dont worry about it. When the summer comes it goes away like a miracle. Hes still saying those things. Joining our conversation, dana bash. Theyre stubborn and stupid, one of the things i dont understand the president , he has to know the case map. He may not go to Task Force Meetings but he has to know the numbers. He says were going down, rounding the corner. Its not true. How can he think he can tell this to the American People at a time theyre living this going uphill. The fact he suffered from coronavirus, the fact he was hospitalized, because he had the deadly virus has not changed the way that he approaches his life. And that is that he is convinced that he can convince people that they are looking at a blue sky, but that the blue sky is pink. That is the way that he approaches everything, and it has been his whole adult life. It has worked for him in business. It worked for him certainly at the beginning of his political career. But it clearly does not work when you are telling people something that really does affect their everyday lives and it is affecting them in much more negative ways as you just showed with that frankly scary map and the fact that the numbers are going up. Its just not possible but its impossible to convince him otherwise. It is stunning in the sense that you also heard governor Chris Christie there who said, you know a gentlemen whos overweight, has asthma said he was careful, came down to the white house to help the president with debate prep and let down his guard and became positive. Hes now saying wear a mask. Saying everyone should agree on wearing a mask, everyone should social distance, but the subject came up last night they dont agree. Just the other day they came out with a statement that 85 of the people that wear masks catch it. They didnt say that. I know that study. Thats what i heard. And thats what i saw. He cant mandate a mask. But you can say, go to every governor and get them all in a room, all 50 of them, as president and say ask people to wear the mask. Everybody knows. Biden has been very consistent on this, saying leaders have to lead, hold up their own mask, tell people to wear a mask, the president there, again distorting completely the findings of a study about masks and he wont budge. Its reprehensible that hes taking his own governments data and misrepresenting those data, particularly when it comes to something as simple as wearing a mask. And he is taking this issue and handing it on a silver platter to joe biden. Hes just allowing joe biden to look and sound and feel like a leader in a way that President Trump just will not do it. It is mind boggling to people, even those who like him and help him, Chris Christie is a perfect example, he sat with him and helped him for days on his own time and his own dime to try to prepare him for the last debate and suffered the consequences. Even he is speaking out and saying, this makes no sense. Wear a mask. It is its if he said wear a mask, i even think that just based on the data, the polling data, it actually could help him, not hurt him. But he wont go there. He did it once for a day or for a couple of days where he was trying to at one time and as always he goes back to his default. He thinks he can tell people up is down and west is east. Lets listen to governor Chris Christie again. We know Trump Supporters out there, the president tells them dont listen to us, the scientists, dr. Fauci, the data, dont listen. Heres a guy who, as dana said, on his own time and dime tried to help the president with the first debate. Listen. I was led to believe that, you know, all the people that i was interacting with at the white house had been tested. And it gave you a false sense of security. It was a mistake. Ive been so careful for seven months because of my asthma, wearing masks, washing my hands, social distancing and for seven months i was able to avoid the virus in one of the worst hit states in the country, in new jersey. But i let my guard down. And it was wrong. It was just a big mistake. Theres a proud stubborn man, Chris Christie, it was wrong, a mistake. We never heard those words from the president of the United States about the superspreade n event at the white house. Thats right. Hes trying to lead by example, hes signaling to a president who, even though he talks to Chris Christie on the phone, he consumes information and it sinks in with him by television. That was a big reason that the former governor of new jersey did that. Let me translate this to you further. When the former governor said that he had a false sense of security, he thought everybody at the white house was being tested. You know who he was talking about . He was talking about the president of the United States. Everybody who came into that building or the white house campus, including Chris Christie they were told by the medical staff they needed to be tested and the assumption was everybody was tested. We now know based on lots of data points, including the president not answering last night, whether or not he was tested the night of the debate that he wasnt tested every day, and he could have been, we dont know but he could have been patient zero or at least part of the problem at the white house on that big saturday event he had for the Supreme Court nominee and also in his debate prep room where everybody except two people came down with the coronavirus. Chris christie says the white house never contact traced him, his county board of health back home did. Id like to see the list when they said, governor who did you come in contact with . I think the president s name would be at the top. New reporting on what the president calls his coronavirus cure, it is no cure but the antibody cocktail was part of the president s treatment. He now promises all americans will be able to get it from free and soon. Experts have a different take. They warn there may be limited access to the treatment and it likely will carry a steep price tag. Sarah murray has been doing the reporting. Reporter ever since the president got the antibody cocktail he cant stop talking about it. Lets look at him last night talking about it again. When i got it, i had a choice, do nothing or use some of the things that were looking at, in this case regeneron, and eli lilli makes something thats supposed to be incredible. I think i wouldnt be doing this discussion with you right now, we have therapies now and cures maybe, you can use the word cure he calls it a cure. He says every american is going to be able to get it. Thats not the case, john. Every american is not going to be able to get this kind of treatment. Its still experimental, its promising, but it is not yesterday proven, the fda has not issued an authorization yet, if or when they do it could be for a small subset of coronavirus patients. If they decided to offer a broader offer for this treatment, its not likely the companies that make the treatments could make enough to go around. The Trump Administration would have had to ramp up manufacturing on this months ago. There was pressure from scientists inside and outside the administration to get them to do that. Within the Trump Administration they were focused on this pursuit of vaccines. They knew vaccines would help with coronavirus, they werent sure if the antibody therapies would pan out and if the science was there. The other is price. The government bought up a number of doses in the hopes they work. But people are worried how expensive theyll be and theyre worried itll be the most privileged americans that benefit the most. Hhs said they will try their best to make sure that doesnt happen but well see. Thank you for that reporting. Up next for us with the rising coronavirus case count comes the domino effect. Seven states recording record hospitalizations. Weve got the retinol that gives you results in one week. Not just any retinol. Accelerated retinol sa. One week is all it takes. Neutrogena®. At least seven states right now reporting the highest number of hospitalizations since the start of the coronavirus pandemic. Michigan not at its peak but it is reporting hospitalization numbers not seen since before memorial day. Lets talk to dr. Rob davidson, executive director of the committee to protect medicare. Its good to see you, doctor. I want to put up the michigan numbers on the screen, the hospitalizations right now. You are not thankfully at the moment across the state back to where you were at the end of april, early may. But you see the trend line, thursday hitting 1,000 hospitalizations heading back up. What is the situation on the ground, is 1,000 in you have to cause a strain on the system or is it still good . Michigan has different regions and detroit area is the part that had seen the significant spikes in hospitalizations and deaths in the spring. Im in west michigan, rural part of the state and we are seeing our highest hospitalizations higher than ever with covid, half of my hospital has covid patients. When you serve a county of about 50,000 people in a onehour radius, when you fill up you have to transfer people to regional hospitals, those people are now boarding 20some patients in Emergency Departments because they dont have hospital beds. Our test Positivity Rate in our region is now 6 , higher than the state in general and above the 5 number. So i think were hitting a critical point. Youre making a critical point. I show you the newly confirmed cases in michigan. Were showing you statewide number but youre right they can be deceiving. In the beginning it was urban areas but you see it now looking across the country, the midwest, plains states, the west, a lot of the outbreak is in rural areas, areas that dont have access to medical centers and the like. Explain how for covid and other patients theres a domino effect there. If theres a car accident or something else, theres a domino effect that gets dangerous. People continue to have strokes, heart attacks. We have three ambulances serving our entire county, when theyre transferring patients to the bigger centers, those people dont get seen. Chest pain patients dont get brought in as quickly. And then we have the president coming to a place tomorrow within 30 miles of my hospital bringing his super spreader event to west michigan where thousands will gather without masks close together. And we know three weeks after that. Its a predictable trend and unfortunately hes adding to it. There will be people that disagree with you, but this is a frustrating dynamic since the beginning. You have doctors like yourself on the front line treating the patients asking for help from government leaders. You have the president coming in violating common sense if nothing else, you have your governor in fights with the courts over what she is allowed to do. Where are we in that regard, in terms of consistent consensus government leadership about personal behavior and responsibility . Its tough. We have a governor whos been doing everything she can. Youre right the Supreme Court in the state, supported by the state legislature, controlled by republicans, have pushed back against her. My concern is the senator has abdicated herd immunity i think we may have lost we lost the audio on that. Dr. Davis, grateful for your time. The technology, happens to us. Its also one of the ripple effects of this. Thank you for your time. Up next for us, new early voting numbers showing beyond massive election turnout. [narrator] ordering chipotle for the family . Voila, rewarded with guacamole and a side of quiet. Grubhub gives you rewards for rewarding yourself, with food. doorbell rings grubhub election day is 18 days from now. Thats what it says on the calendar. Election day is 18 days from now. But millions of you have already voted. We have data well share it with you. Some of it comes from catalyst. Look at this, so far. Look at this. More than 20 million ballots have been cast. Election day is november 3rd, more than 20. 6 million ballots have been cast across america. We know from some states, this is 27 state that is report partisan breakdowns, 5. 3 have been cast by democrats. Doesnt guarantee they voted for biden. But we know most democrats said theyre voting for biden and republicans said theyre voting for donald trump. But look at this, 2. 4 republicans have requested a ballot so far. You can see the advantage democrats, at least you believe you see one. Republicans think democrats are out to a head start. Look at the map and you see the states with the mailin voting and early voting is off the charts. Texas, florida, california, no surprise, three of the big populous states. But also up here across the midwest, big numbers as well. Other states filling in as more states kick in and get into this process. We know this, 39 million. More than 39 million ballots have been requested across the country, we are in a pandemic election some people think its not safe to vote. Some people think given the technology, why should it be one day, ill do it by mail. Last night in the debate the issue came up again. This is new, some states are having problems or issues. But the president doesnt describe it as problems or issues, he says massive fraud. Your own fbi director says there is no evidence of widespread fraud. Then hes not doing a good job. Pick up the papers every day, 50,000 in ohio, the great state of ohio, 50,000 in another location, i think north carolina, 500,000 applications in virginia, no no. Theres a tremendous problem. Washington state kicks its election work into gear today, in person early voting locations open and ballots sent to all residents in Washington State beginning today. The state reported record primary turnout in august. Washington, though, not new to the vote by mail phenomenon, it is the norm there and officials are confident they can handle the volume. Joining me now, kim wyman thank you for your time again. Youre the expert since youve been at it for so long in washington. I was reading the transcript of an interview you did, you can handle this but what strikes you as the vitriol. Youre a republican, but the nations Top Republican saying fraud, rigged, saying things that are frankly wrong, correct . Thats correct. And every time President Trump takes a swing at absentee ballots of vote by mail ballots it undermines confidence. So officials have more to do to make sure their voters know that their vote is protected, their vote is going to be counted accurately and were going to count for every vote we receive. The numbers the president was using with Savannah Guthrie were wrong. But there are cases where people are finding ballots discarded or in wrong locations. Are other secretaries of state reaching out to you to how to handle it . Are you concerned so far . Do you think these are routine hiccups . Weve been working with secretaries of state and Election Officials from across the country for the last seven, eight months. 10 of the population moves every year. So were trying to keep up our voter roles to make sure we have the most accurate address, get the ballot to the voter on the first try and the right ballot to the voter. But people move in an apartment or condominium well have opportunities for people to receive someone elses ballot thats why we have security measures in place to make sure only the voter it was issued to gets to cast that ballot. Your state is a high participation state anyway, a civic tradition and all that. I look at the primary turnout, number one and now the early questions, the off the charts. You have huge lines in many places with early voting. Based on those and based on your experience, what does it tell you about the interest in this election . Its exactly what we expected. Were going to see very high turnout. Im excited because i think were going to see here in washington close to 90 turnout of our registered voters. As an election official it makes you excited and we have to work really hard to make sure we get through all the volume. Get through all the volume. Well bring you back again as we get through it. Appreciate your candor and your experience. Up next, pfizer says its getting ready to apply for emergency use authorization of Coronavirus Vaccine. Staying on top of your game takes a plan. Thats why at aetna, we take a total, connected approach to your health and wellness. With Medicare Advantage plans designed to surround you with the care you need every day. Aetna Medicare Advantage plans. Knowinits hard. Re is hard. Eliminate who you are not first, and youre going to find yourself where you need to be. The race is never over. The journey has no port. The adventure never ends, because we are always on the way. 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S. , permission to put it on the market, soon after the safety milestone is achieved in the third week of november. Lets look at the first phrase, assuming positive data. Theyre basically saying, we think well have data by the end of november and assuming it is positive, we will apply for permission to put this vaccine on the market. That assumes that that data looks good. There is a possibility that that data may show the vaccine doesnt work or that the vaccine maybe works and that pfizer needs to keep going with their Clinical Trial but its not ready yet. So that phrase is a huge caveat. We hope their data looks terrific but its early on, it might not look terrific yet. Emergency use authorization is also something we should explain. That means if they get the positive data and give it to the government and the government gives it initial yes, that would be emergency use, not widespread use because of availability or would that be everybody . It could eventually be everybody. But to your point its not going to be made available to everyone all at once. You cant vaccinate the whole country at once. Remember the vaccines require two doses which makes it more time consuming. Pfizer is one of the companies out ahead on this. The other company is ma doderna they say theyre going to finish their enrollment of 30,000 people by next week and they say they also think they could have data next month. So the thinking is pfizer may be a bit ahead here, but not by much. We could see some data coming out of pfizer and moderna next month. Thank you for that elizabeth. Coming up how the coronavirus is impacting campaign ads for both candidates. Y community . How can i become a congresswoman . What do i need to study to become a senator . Could i change things more at the state level or the federal level . Do i have to be mayor before i become governor . Why arent there more women in government . Change begins with a question. 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The coronavirus pandemic is the Biggest Issue in the 2020 campaign and more and more focus of the political ads now everywhere on television. President trump had hoped the virus would fade as a campaign issue. This tells you he knows it will not. 56 of the president s ad spending is covid related in the last week or so, before it was only 36 of his campaign ad spending. Its a consistent response in bidens ads, 46 of the spending was about the virus down from 51 in the weeks before. If im your president , on day one well implement a National Strategy ive been laying out since march. Our current president has failed, in his most basic duty to the nation. Hes failed to protect america. President donald j. Trump delivered on the impossible in his first term. In his second term hell deliver for you. End the reliance on china and eradicate the coronavirus. With us now a partner with kosar strategies. Thank you for your time today. Meredith, let me start with you, in the sense campaigns make calculations on how to do their ads, joe biden straight to camera using a speech about the coronavirus to put it in an ad. What does that tell you about the confidence of the campaign and the message . I noticed a few things about the ad campaign thats going on in these final weeks of the president ial one thing ill point out first is the sheer difference in the amount of money that each campaign has and where that has taken the air war. Biden has been able to outspend trump in the key northern battlegrounds of wisconsin, pennsylvania, and michigan by nearly double this week as well as expand into places like arizona, texas, and others. And go back into old battlegrounds like iowa. I think its notable where the tv ads are running before we get into the con at the present tte. The content themselves youre seeing joe biden offer a vision for the future, one on the short term rebuild our economy after coronavirus and also speaks about his plans to have a safe and just society where health care is affordable, we deal with Climate Change and fight for workers unlike big corporations and the very rich. Coronavirus amplified what was a successful strategy in 2018, focused on health care and the economy. It exacerbated hardworking familys concerns about the costs they face. So joe biden is able to speak to them directly about fighting for health care, workers and their jobs. The pandemic has made his messaging all the more personal and relevant right now. Collin, to the point about money, number one, do you think the Trump Campaign blew too much money early on . There was a lot of money spent early on when the president had no primary challenge. Theres an incumbent president , trying to lay the ground work but some people say you may have been better keeping the money in the bank. Right now the numbers are heading in the direction. Hindsight is going to be 20 20 and everyone is able to analyze spending after the election is over. With the remaining two and a half weeks are left, if you look at the arenas these two campaigns bant to fight in, joe biden wants to talk about coronavirus and the president s handling of it. And donald trump needs to talk about the economy. Poll after poll that shows joe biden leading donald trump shows voters favor donald trump on the issue of the economy. Politics isnt rocket science. If youre fighting in your opponents e arena not yours you have to find a way to shift back to your arena. So the question is, is the covid19 and continuing outbreak not allowing him better call or text your friends if thats the case. If you look at the ad spending related to the economy, if you go back a couple of weeks ago, he was spending, if you think they should spend more on the economy, better get on the phone. Flip side, joe biden realizes the president has a strength left, it is on the economy. Look at his tv ad spending, it was lesson the economy, now it jumped up to 37 of his ads. More than a third there. Another fascinating issue is health care. Listen to ads on health care. Talk about how times changed on the other side. My son beau was diagnosed with terminal cancer. Given months to live. Fact of the matter is health care is personal to me. Obamacare is personal to me. Joe biden tried to cut Social Security for decades. President trump is protecting Social Security and medicare. Meredith, ten years ago, democrats were running from their own accomplishment, obamacare, in the 2010 midterms and got crushed. Joe biden is proud to stand on it now. Yes. I was at the Democratic CongressionalCampaign Meeting in 2015 when we flipped the house almost exclusively on health care. I remember being worried the republicans might have a plan to repeal and replace the aca that was popular, then they came in with a plan that would get rid of protections with preexisting conditions and increased cost and more that would harm the American People. Ever since then, democrats built up incredible trust on the issue of health care. Joe biden benefits from that. Thats why the attack about very old tapes about medicare and Social Security from that, that trump is using in ads will defy credibility now. I have to say the most popular position on health care in the country is being against the republican and donald trump plan to repeal it. So i think the more it is about health care, better off we are up and down the ballot. Sorry, were out of time for the conversation today. Well bring you back on, give you more time next time. 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New interview from the top Infectious Disease expert, dr. Anthony fauci. Big clear take away . We have big reason to worry. The baseline fluctuated, never went down to the level i would hope it went down to. You cant enter into the cool months of the fall and cold months of the winter with a High Community infection baseline and looking at the map, seeing the heat map, how it lights up with test positivity that is more more than 30 plus states is going the wrong direction. Dr. Fauci says