26yearold father of two, joey cassner, the division chief of white animal control. His obituary reads in part to know joey is to love joey. He was a deacon at his church. He loved hunting, fishing, playing softball and coaching his kids in sports. The family of a teacher in bay port, wisconsin now believes she got coronavirus after attending the funeral of a close relative. 47yearold heidi hussley was the mom to one son and taught german. Her former students remember her in interviews. One of them said this. I always described her as the kindest heart that i ever knew. She definitely touched every soul she met in a positive way. Another said this. She really did believe in their students, no matter their background or intellect. They were truly her students and she wanted all of us to success. In texas, a sheriffs deputy passed away after learning he had been exposed to covid19 at work. The 59yearold had served in Law Enforcement for more than 27 years. Another front line worker, dr. Rebecca shadowan was a specialist in Infectious Diseases. She was diagnosed in may and helped her community develop its response to the coronavirus pandemic. Her husband, daughter and 90yearold motherinlaw all managed to recover from coronavirus but she passed away september 11th. Her family spoke last night to anderson cooper. She was easily one of the smartest, most driven people i knew. She kind of taught me partially who i wanted to be as a person. She always said to let people be who they are, and kind of really believed and lived out the idea of chatreating everyone the wayu wanted to be treated. She knew there were risks of covid out there, but she still wanted to be a part of medicine and helping people. She would very much encourage people to wear masks in public, social distance always, avoid large crowds. This fall when the flu vaccine comes out, please take it because you wouldnt want to get those two diseases at the same time. And if a covid19 vaccine comes out, my son will be first in line to get it. I hope that makes a difference in how we deal with covid in the future. Dr. And think fauci reflecting on the unprecedented loss of life from the coronavirus during an interview with sanjay gupta today. The idea of 200,000 deaths is really very sobering and in some respects stunning. We have the capability of doing things that could prevent the transiti transition, the universal wearing of masks, the attention to keeping distance, the avoiding of crowds, the trying to do things outdoors more than indoors, frequent washing of hands, they sound so simple. We said them so many times. Theyre not universally implemented and employed. The United States is approaching 7 million infections and a new Study Released moments ago shows who is more likely to test positive for the virus. We have cnns senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen here to talk about the details. So, elizabeth, this team was looking at the Health Records of more than 5 million patients in the v. A. System. What did they see there . What they saw is reflective of whats seen in the entire u. S. Population, but they added an interesting new piece of information. What they found was that black and latino veterans were more than twice as likely to get coronavirus than white veterans. That has been known. Those numbers have been seen, pretty much the same numbers have been seen in the entire u. S. Population when you look at cdc data. What this study adds is that many people have said maybe its because black and latino people have more Underlying Health conditions that make them more vulnerable to getting infected. They found that was not the case. Underlying conditions did not answer the question nor did it answer the question on where they got their care. So we need to find out why there is a racial discrepancy. A couple thoughts put out there is it has to do with the jobs that minority people do compared to white people. People in black and what toon no xh latino communities do more essential front line jobs that put people at risk for getting covid19. Theres a new study that looks at people who tested positive for coronavirus in south korea and specifically its looking at the viral load of people who are asymptomatic, people who dont have symptoms. What does it show us . Right. Theres been some thought that, well maybe if people dont have symptoms, maybe they cant spread it as much. They dont have as much virus in their nose and throat so they wont spread it as much. This study found thats not the case. That these sort of silent coronavirus cases that there are also potentially silent spreaders because they did have as much virus in their nose and. Thats why mask wearing is to important. I talked to so many people who felt completely fine and then got tested and they were shocked that they were positive. You could have coronavirus and not know it, thats why you need to keep a safe distance and wear a mask. You have to act like you have it even if you feel like you dont to protect other people. Exactly. Elizabeth, thank you very much. Elizabeth cohen. Despite the staggering loss of life, President Trump is giving himself an a plus for his response to the pandemic. He said this at his rally in ohio last night. Now we know it, it affects elderly people, elderly people with heart problems, other problems. If they have other problems, thats what it affects. In some states thousands of peop people, nobody is affected. It affects virtually nobody. Thats a lie. Our chief White House Correspondent jim acosta asked about this moments ago at the White House Press briefing. Lets listen. Last night the president said at one of his rallies about the virus. I think he was talking about younger americans. He said it affects virtually nobody. By the way, open your schools, everybody open your schools. But he said to bob woodward, its not just older people, its young people, too. At 200,000 deaths, shouldnt the president be telling people the truth about this virus at his rallies . The president is telling people the truth. Youre right hes not. Hes saying it affects virtually nobody and that it doesnt affect young people. Hes not telling the truth. Youre taking the president out of context. Youre right he has referring to young people. He said this i said he was talking about younger people im not taking it out of context. Youre making an assertion that hes not giving critical information when he is. I will underscore exactly what he said. You know in some states thousands of people, theyve had nobody young, below the age of 18, like nobody. They have a strong immune system. Thats factually true. You can go to the American Academy of pediatrics website, the Childrens Hospital association, they list out a number of states that have had zero pediatric deaths. They can get the coronavirus and spread it to older people. Theyve known this since the beginning. For the president of the United States at 200,000 deaths to go out to rallies and Say Something like it virtually affects nobody, and that in some states its not affecting young people, that is glossing over the fact and really diminishing the fact that young people can catch this vishs and spre virus and spread it to older people and younger people can be sickened by the virus. Do you have the quote there . Yes. Its exactly as i read it to you. In several states they have had zero pediatric deaths. Hawaii, idaho, kansas, the list goes on. As you may not know, jim, this covid has a 0. 01 mortality rate for people under the age of 18. So, it is not a disease that affects young people in the same way as older people, which is the exact point that the president was making last night. Jim acosta, that was not the exact point the president was making last night as you know. She couldnt point to every state not having pediatric deaths because that is very inaccurate. What did you think of this exchange . Weve seen this almost since the very beginning of this pandemic, that is that the president of the United States and the White House Press secretary like previous White House Press secretaries will flat outlay to the American People and the president did that last night at that rally in ohio when he was saying that it virtually affects nobody. He seemed to be saying that about younger americans, but as we know that is just missing a giant point. That is that younger americans, while they may not get sick and die from the coronavirus at the same rate that Older Americans do, they can catch the virus and spread it to other people. So, you know, one of the things weve been dealing with throughout all of this, you laid this out so well on your program, the president down plays this virus. He diminishes the threat posed by the virus. He holds rallies where people dont wear masks and participate in social distancing because of what he says to his own supporters. You know, at the very beginning of my exchange i asked her whether or not the administration accepts some responsibility for the 200,000 deaths from the coronavirus in this country and what do they say to americans who are outraged over this and blame this administration for these deaths . She was saying that, well because there were some projections that it could kill 2 Million People, they feel like theyve done a fine job. As you know, that 2 million projection was only if we did nothing. If we didnt practice social distancing, if we just lived our lives as we did before the coronavirus pandemic. So theyre inventing this false standard to compare the 200,000 threshold against. It just falls flat when you hold it up to the light of day. I think this was another example of that. It doesnt pay respect to the cost, jim. I think especially having hit this threshold of 200,000 lives gone, lives that wouldnt be gone without covid19 affecting these people. Its so disrespectful. I appreciated your question. Thank you very much. Jim acosta. Thank you. Election interference in 2016 may have been childs play compared to 2020 according to the Washington Post. A top secret assessment from the cia says we assess that president Vladimir Putin and the senior most russian officials are aware of and probably directing russias influence operations aimed at denigrating the former u. S. Vice president that would be joe biden, supporting the u. S. President , that would be donald trump, and fueling public discord ahead of the u. S. Election in november. So this is from the very first line of the assessment that is contained in this internal highly classified report. The cia worldwide intelligence review which was written not long ago, a few weeks ago on august 31st. Josh rogin, the Washington Post columnist who broke this story is joining us now. Josh, thanks for coming on. Tell us what you know about putins alleged role in this, the assessment saying that he probably is directing these influence operations. Thats right. Over the last two months weve seen different parts of the u. S. Government openly talk about this foreign influence operation perpetrated by andre dirkosh, a pro russian ukrainian lawmaker who happens to be good friends with rudy giuliani, and has been named by the office of the director of National Intelligence and the Treasury Department as an active russian agent and sanctioned by the Treasury Department and what this cia assessment concluded and that ive now revealed is that that whole scheme, part of which is played out in public and part of which played out in private, the cia, fbi and nsa believe that putin and his senior most staff are definitely aware of it on probably directing it. Meaning that though these are ukrainians working with americans, its all run out of the highest level of the kremlin. Thats new. It also shows that the Intelligence Community has been tracking this and investigating this for a long time and has come up with dozens of pieces of intelligence. Some classified, some unclassified, that patients a scheme that involves u. S. Lawmakers, u. S. Media organizations, washington lobbyists all being used as part of this influence operation, again to hurt biden, help trump and sow discord in our november 2020 election. You write about this ukrainian lawmaker with ties to giuliani who has been working through lobbyists, members of congress and the u. S. Media to spread this antibiden information. Are these american players, these lobbyists, congressmen, these members of the media, are they aware theyre part of a Russian Disinformation Campaign . Yeah. The assessment itself doesnt speak to that. It just says that they could be targets of it. In other words, being influenced or they could be in on it and it doesnt name giuliani or the lawmakers, though its clear where the information has done. Giuliani and dirkosh appeared together on the internet, on facebook. Giuliani has said that he doesnt know if dirkosh was a russian agent, he didnt think he was a russian agent. At this point with the release offal this information based on dozens of pieces of intelligence, its its no longer plausible for these people to deny that dirkosh is working with the russian government, that this is directed by putin, and if theyre using this information and are influenced by him, theyre doing putins bidding plain and simple. Josh rogin, thank you very much. Senator mitt romney falling in line with fellow republicans making a clear path to confirm a Supreme Court justice before the election. One of Justice Ginsburgs former clerks will be joining me next. And the Louisville PoliceDepartment Says six of its officers are now under internal investigation after the shooting death of breonna taylor. Well take you there live. And countries across europe seeing a spike in covid infections. What theyre doing to crack down. Who is usaa made for . 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Ck, if the president gets to place at judge on the bench it will change the dynamic of the court with a conservative majority. How is that going to raise the stakes for issues including obamacare but not limited to obamacare . Absolutely. Thank you all for your sort of progressive view on some of these issues. Its absolutely going to change the fabric of this country. To fill the shoes of this magnificent jurist, this justice who gave so much to equality, to womens rights, to civil rights, to Voting Rights, to human rights in this country, its going to be difficult to fill the shoes. If we fill the shoes with someone who is not properly vetted and were rushing into the process it will set us behind in this country. This is such an important decision. Such an important decision. Again, if we look at just Voting Rights, just take Justice Ginsburgs record on Voting Rights and her crushing, crushing dissent in the shelby versus holden case, where that basically that case gutted the civil rights the Voting Rights act of 1965. That set behind Voting Rights in this country. As were facing right here and now a pandemic, election suppression, not just covid19, not just Police Brutality but election suppression, we can tie back the Supreme Court decision where she wrote that crushing opinion to whats happening today because basically the barriers were taken away to states being able to do whatever they want to do with election suppression that was really designed to impact black and brown minority communities voting. Thats the key. Election suppression is designed to impact minority communities. Thats why at the National Bar Association we are pushing over 6,000, 7,000 lawyers out there to protect the right to vote. This decision right now to put someone quickly in place will completely change the fabric potentially of this country to the detriment of many communities. Neil, what issues are you tracking . What issues do you think could very much be changed . Well, theres a good number of them. For starters, we should understand that the Supreme Court is already one of the most conservative Supreme Courts in american history. We have not had one this conservative since the 1930s. Their conservatism caused a constitutional crisis. So were not talking about a court thats moderate let alone leaning left. Chief Justice Roberts is a conservative justice. He does, however, have a sense of the court as an institution thats greater than his own ideology and his own meth methodogical commitments, so he has been willing to put on the brakes, for example when the Trump Administration made certain pretextural claims to justify governmental action like, for example, with adding a Citizenship Question to the census. He has been willing to push back at times. He will invoke the courts previous decisions precedent called st cato put on the brakes. If you move the court away from the chief justice and towards someone more conservative, what youre talking about is even more hostility to affirmative action and hostility to the Voting Rights act. A court that will not impose significant limits on the death penalty. A court that will not be sympathetic to claims brought by Sexual Orientation minorities and transgender individuals. There are many more issues at stake, that just gives you and your listeners some sense of how much each individual seat on the Supreme Court can matter. I wonder, ck, do you have concerns about the speed of this confirmation . I do have tremendous concerns. Many bar associations such as the National Bar Association take seriously the appointment, the nomination and appointment of a Supreme Court justice especially one filling the shoes of Justice Ginsburg. And there is a process. We need to vet and be able to submit our own recommendations, our own views on each of the candidates. That is part of the american way. Thats part of the process. With them rushing like this, what it does, even though we have our teams of scholars, our teams that are vetting and are looking at potential right now theyre potential nominees, it really in compressing that process and rushing to get someone appointed and confirmed before the election, in less than 45 days t takes away the democracy and it takes away the ability of organizations who are doing proper vetting with their ability to vet the process. We want to know what this persons opinions are on various issues, Voting Rights, human rights, health care, immigration, all of the things that are important to the American People. No matter what partisan politics play out. With it going through this process, rushing the process, with the centers lining up against the decision, its our understanding that the president will announce his nominee on d saturday or the weekend, they say well get someone confirmed right away, thats unamerican, undemocratic, and basically makes it so that the American People will not have the ability to even see and vet these candidates that will be ruling on such important issues. This justice is critical to the american constitution. Neil, you have been a part of this process. You were special council to senator chris coombs, a demagogue throudemocra democra democrat, what challenges will this speed create . It creates challenges to the senates ability to execute a profound constitutional role of advise and consent. It also is going to impede the ability of the American People, the public to learn about the nominee and evaluate the nominee and render their own judgment about whether the nominee should be confirmed. Were talking about a lifetime appointment to the nations highest court, the most powerful court in the land. Advise and consent, public evaluation, it requires a lot more time than speed dating. Yet has seems to be the process that the president and republican senators are insisting on. Speed dating. Good analogy. Thank you very much. Appreciate you being with us. And we did just hear from Senate Majority leader Mitch Mcconnell about the ginsburg seat vacancy. Lets listen. As we all know, the president is going to be sending up a nominee for the Supreme Court vacancy later this week. I anticipate it will be an extremely well qualified woman. And with regard to the schedule after that announcement, chairman Lindsey Graham will lay out the plan for handling the nomination before the judiciary committee. Number two, a word about the negotiation on the cr. Next, six Louisville Police officers are investigating an internal investigation in the wake of Breonna Taylors death. 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Its six officers including two officers who fired into the home of breonna taylor. And then a detective who secured that noknock warrant, the search warrant that gave Police Permission to go into her home. So those detectives as well as other people who were part of that investigation are all now under internal investigation. Theyll be looking at to see if any of the internal protocols were not followed and a broader view of exactly perhaps what went wrong in this case in that let up to the shooting of breonna taylor. One of the detectives who fired into the home, he was already fired. Hes trying to get his job back. This, as you said, as we await word from the grand jury on whether or not any of these officers will face charges. Thats right. One of those that member of this unit that was at her apartment, as you mentioned, he, as we understand it, was firing blindly multiple shots blindly through drapes or Window Coverings into the house, which was seen as highly unregular and unsafe behavior. Theres an expectation for many people that this was not handled correctly obviously. To that end you have security heightened in louisville ahead of this grand jury decision. The city is under a state of emergency. Tell us about this. Your point, you make is absolutely right. That is why in some ways why investigators and the Police Department moved to fire that officer. I have to say things here are tense across the downtown area. Security has been stepped up. The police have closed off streets. A lot of the stores have been boarded up and restaurants. As you said, the mayor here has declared a state of emergency which would allow him to put in place a scurfew if needed but w await the decision from the grand jury. 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Has now surpassed 200,000 coronavirus deaths, a number that dr. Anthony fauci calls sobering and stunning. But of the 7 million who have survived, some are still feeling symptoms. My next guests are a couple from wyoming who contracted the virus nearly three months ago and theyre still battling the after effects. As theyre fighting for their health, theyre battling another fight online. Anne and Marvin Robinson are with us from casper, wyoming. I want to thank you both for coming on to tell us your story that is so important that people across the country hear. I know youre both experiencing some symptoms still. Can you talk about what your challenges and your recovery has been like . Well, its been a long road. We were sick for three weeks, we still have fatigue, marvin still has shortness of breath. I still grasp to find some words at times. Theres a lot of unknown. We dont know whats coming next for us either. And then trying to convince people its real. Tell us about that, marvin and anne, if you would. Trying to convince people that this is real. What have you encountered . Well, we have friends who still believe its a hoax. They think it will go away on election day. And they kind of discount the fact that older people get it that have underlying conditions. That they were going to die any way. Im an older person, i have underlying conditions, i intend to live for a lot more years. I dont think i need covid to help it along. A lot of people in my situation, my age have conditions that lead a full life. They have a lot of life to live, its trying to convince the people that the 200,000 people who died were important. Marvin, i wonder if you could tell us about sort of your lifestyle. I know that you guys lead active lifestyles. And i wonder how covid has impacted that. Impacted the fact that i got to stay home a lot more than i used to because we quit bingo, bowling, fiddle jams, i got to stay home more and work in my yard. Yeah. And that was the big impact. And i have a very hard time. I get short of breath, doing better now, feeling pretty good. And so what is what will you be doing where you have shortness of breath and you have to maybe pause . Well, for about 2 1 2 of the five days i was sick i sat in my recliner gasping for air. If i go outside to move, i would walk three, four steps carrying a sprinkler and i would have to hold on to the fence for a while to get my air. And it was just a real short of breath. That sounds very scary. Ann, sorry, go on. Yeah. I think yeah, it was scary. We were fortunate because we had friends and family who checked in on us, who brought us food, they would hang it on the doorknob or set it in the porch or set it on the driveway. But we were able to get help in that way. We have talked to some other people locally who didnt have anybody to help them. I cant imagine what they were going through. It was a whole family that had covid, and they didnt have anyone else to help them out. In that way we were fortunate. We had a lot of symptoms. Our symptoms seemed to follow each other. We had days when we were sit and stare at each other and wonder if and when it was going to get ove over. Im so glad to be talking to you. I know that you are still facing a lot of health challenges, but its wonderful that you have pulled through to this recovery period, and that youre also trying to tell people to take this seriously. We appreciate it. Thanks for being with us. Thank you. Thanks for calling. Still ahead, is trick or treating canceled this halloween . The cdc just weighed in. On this National Voter registration day well look at whats stopping so Many Americans from going to the polls. Tonight, ill be eating a veggie cheeseburger on ciabatta, no tomatoes. [hard a] tonight. Ill be eating four cheese tortellini with extra tomatoes. [full emphasis on the soft a] so its come to this . [doorbell chimes] thank you. [doorbell chimes] bravo. Careful, hamill. Daddys not here to save you. Oh i am my daddy. Wait, what . What are you talking about . The logistics of voting are making Many Americans anxious and there are growing calls to make it a National Holiday. Today is National Voter registration day and cnn is focusing on the fee issues that matter to voters as part of the citizen by cnn project. Tom foreman is joining us now. The u. S. Doesnt have a national day off to vote but other countries do. Why is that . Both voters would like to see this moved away from a week day to make it easier to get a holiday involved. In 2016, back then 61 of the people who were voting age actually voted. Which means somewhere north of 100 Million People who could have voted, did not. Now some just dont believe in the process but others, if you look at the study by the knight foundation, there is about 14 of the people said one of the problems is that it is a little bit too difficult or somewhat difficult, you could see it there on the left, to get to the polling places. Why . Because it is in the middle of the workweek. Many people cant get time off or go before or after the lines are way too long. Because our voting rules come from the 1800s when we were farmers and farmers. So voting was put where it wouldnt interfere with sundays or farm work. And people had to travel to polling places, we ended up with tuesdays. But many other nations face similar problems and look at where we are today. There is a big trade organization, about 36 nations involved and there on the left, weekend voting for all of the countries, only nine of them have week day voting. Were among those. And two of them have a National Holiday so people could get out there and vote. The simple truth is, brianna, both parties are calculating where is the political advantage here. Democrats by enlarge want more voting from everybody out there. Particularly the people who cant get off to vote right now, republicans have been weary of it. But the truth is if we want a government of the people, by the people, for the people, arguably it would make more sense to get those people involved. Tom, thank you so much for that. And check out our website cnn. Com voter where you will find a complete voter guide. Cnn speaks to the sister of a young doctor who died from covid after treating patients in the e. R. The grim milestone now of 200,000 deaths. A veteran who honorably served and its made for her shes serving now we also made usaa for military spouses and their kids become a member. Get an insurance quote today. We also made usaa for military spouses and their kids apps except work. Rywhere. Why is that . Is it because people love filling out forms . 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And our special coverage continues now with kate bolduan. Announcer this is cnn breaking news. Hello, im kate bolduan. Thank you for joining us this hour. Sobering and stunning. This is how the nations top Infectious Disease expert dr. Fauci is describing today and appropriately so the day the country hit and passed 200,000 deaths from the coronavirus. The United States surpassing this marker, one thought unfathomable this morning. Approximately seven months after the first covid death was reported and now as we enter fall today, the nation sits in another