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Terrorists who grip this country in fear for three long days will never win. World leaders are here. Ranging from Benjamin Netanyahu the Prime Minister of israel to mahmoud abbas, the president of the palestinian authority, to british Prime Minister david cameron, and german chancellor angela merkel. I think were in an allout situation. France has declared war. On that square which you can see right there in the middle of your picture, are three statues of mythical women. That is what this country and the world is standing together to defend. What theyre obviously showing is that in the aftermath of what happened here over the past couple of days of the horrible terror attacks is france as a nation is not going to allow itself to be divided. They want to show unity and thats exactly what this rally is about. I was born as a muslim. I have traveled to show solidarity solidarity. I may disagree with you, but i will die defending your right. You might have noticed that in all of our coverage of those historic unity rallies here in paris, how many Obama Senior Administration officials, cabinet members, and top level u. S. Diplomats were there. The answer was zero. None. The highest placed american representative at those rallies today was the u. S. Ambassador to france. Samuel laurent, a french journalist bob baer is here again with me as well as shadi hamid, Brookings Institution fellow. I want to begin with you, if i can, samuel laurent. I spoke to a number of french today who noticed that american absence, senior american absence. I should note for our viewers the american attorney general was in france today, continues to be here for security meetings but did not go to the rally. Were the frnchench people disappointed by that . I would say clearly, yes, because if you remember after september 11th the president was the first, if i recall to come and visit that time the u. S. After this terrible this massive attack. Well actually in this circumstances on the other hand what we can say is the visit was extremely rushed for leaders and that we all know that the u. S. Is having very strict security and safety rules and that obviously i would say moving the u. S. President in this place, and its such a time would have been hazardous as much as it was for the others. So obviously this is something, maybe a political gesture, but then obviously we dont know. Apart from that in terms of security that also made sense. The jauk chirac visit after 9 11 i remember that and remember the french singing the u. S. National anthem in paris at that moment. Bob baer thats a question an issue raised by a number of people that the security demands for the u. S. President , it is true really greater than any is that in your view a reasonable justification . Samuel is partly right, but on the other hand security in a situation like this depends on the host government and that would be the french. You know keeping standoff convoys. The secret service is Close Protection but the real and True Protection is provided by the french and theyre clearly incapable of doing that. I think there was zero risk clearly to the president. I think its a huge mistake because the french are key partners in the socalled war on terror and they are crucial for the fight in africa against al qaeda. Theyre also very important in fighting isis in syria. So i think it was a serious mistake for the president or at least the Vice President not to show up. You know brianna, i asked a Senior State Department official about secretary of state john kerry. He has tremendous ties to france. Comes here often on his trips. They made the point that he had a previous commitment not only to attend but to be the lead speaker of an entrepreneurship summit in india. That was a reasonable explanation. They make the case thats a reasonable explanation from their end. I wonder what the voices are saying, well even from both sides of the aisle in the u. S. About this. Is there criticism in washington as well . I think theres some i think what youre seeing is happening at a time when there is some general criticism going on of president obama and his Foreign Policy and really having too light of a touch. Yes, you did have john kerry you have john kerry in india. He is meeting with the new leader through in india. Obviously this is a very key trade partner for the u. S. And this comes at a time when i think president obama wants to pivot away from the middle east and certainly he has to concentration on terrorism. Its a big issue. But hes also trying to concentrate, i think, economically more toward the east. So thats where his priority is. But i would say there are Real Security issues when the president travels. There is no doubt about that. There are threats against his life. Security is a major concern, but on the oathther hand jim, weve seen him travel to places where the host countries are far less questionable, i think, when it comes to being able to provide security. Something that comes to mind would be Nelson Mandelas funeral. Remember we saw even in that case there was a translator who wasnt really a translator and had some questionable Mental Health background and he was just within feet really of president obama. So there are concerns and yet, its a calculation that the white house makes constantly about whether the president needs to go places and do things in areas that are dangerous. Hes been to kabul to the president ial palace before. Yes, it was a surprise. Yes, it took a lot of planning to pull that off. At the same time, its a calculation the white house makes and in this case they chose not to go and were hearing from Administration Officials that it was because he felt or they feel certainly, defenders at the white house and in the administration they feel he was able to pay respects at the French Embassy in the u. S. And also in his public statements about what happened in france. We spoke earlier to representative adam schiff the ranking democratic member on the house intelligence committee. Certainly briefed in issues of counterterror and risk but also a democrat. Heres what he had to say when i asked him about whether he thought this was a mistake. Fact. When you take advil you get relief right at the site of pain. Wherever it is. Advil stops pain right where it starts. Relief doesnt get any better than this. Advil. Huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. Yeah, Everybody Knows that. Well, did you know that playing cards with kenny rogers gets old pretty fast . You got to know when to holdem. Know when to fold em. Know when to walk away. Know when to run. You never count your money, when youre sitting at the ta. What . You get it . I get the gist yeah. Geico. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. And an Early Morning mode. And a partly sunny mode. And an outside. To clear inside mode. Transitions ® signature ™ adaptive lenses. Now have chromea7 ™ technology. Making them more responsive than ever to changing light. So life can look more vivid vibrant. Why settle for a lens with just one mode . Experience life well lit ®. Speak with your eyecare professional to. Upgrade your lenses to transitions ® signature ™. Welcome back. Im jim sciutto in paris. President obama did not attend todays unity reality in paris, but 50 World Leaders flew in. Including angela merkel, british Prime Minister, david cameron, and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Marching inging through the paris streets to show their support. I talked about the administrations decision not to attend at a more senior level with democratic congressman adam schiff. I think its always desirable when you have a cataclysmic event like this to have the president or Vice President if possible or the secretary of state who i know is away in india. We did have the attorney general in paris as well as the deputy secretary of Homeland Security there to confer show our support. They were not part of the march, i dont think, but they were there meeting with french officials. The president called president hollande as well as visited the French Embassy. I think we certainly have shown solidarity solidarity. Would it have been desirable . Absolutely. Many other ways the United States has shown its deepest sympathy about what france is going through. It seems in moments like this that a physical presence does make a difference. Just that image of those leaders often, on other issues for instance the israeli Prime Minister palestinian president , locking arms so close to each other walking down the street. Are you saying it would have been desirable here to have for instance the american president or Vice President . Do you think the Administration Made a mistake . Look, i think its always desirable. Its not always practical given the nature of the president s responsibilities and the difficult in try to meet those all at the same time. Jim, im sure you could have said the same in terms of a personal visit to ottawa or to sydney. Regrettably regrettably, were seeing a proliferation of these attacks around the world. So desirable, yes. Is it necessary to show u. S. Solidarity . I think the french understand that we stand shoulder to shoulder with them. Lets talk about the threat to the u. S. Because you and i have talked about the concern among u. S. Intelligence and counterterror officials about lone wolf attacks in the u. S. , as well as a continuing desire from groups such as al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula which has a tie to the attackers here. Having a desire to attack americans and americans on u. S. Soil. Based on what you see and hear in your briefings, what is the level of concern about such attacks in the u. S. Today . Well i think theres a lot of concern about potential attacks in the u. S. And there has been for some time. We understand that we are vulnerable. Not only to lone wolves or those that may become radicalized overseas but to precisely the kind of armed assault that we saw in paris. Weve been very fortunate not to have endured Something Like that before although of course this does harkin back to the Boston Marathon bombing. There you had two brothers just like in france that at least one had traveled overseas and become radicalized. And through very simple devices, these were Pressure Cooker bombs. They were able to devastate boston and shut the city down during a massive manhunt. So some eery similarities and similar to jim, to this respect, the tsarnaev brothers in boston were known to our authorities just as the brothers in france were known to french authorities. The challenge is that there just arent the resources to keep everyone under watch. That is of deep concern. And those that left the surveillance of these two brothers in france undoubtedly went to surveil others that were of an even greater concern. So thats the challenge that we and the french and, indeed many of our allies around the world face. Did we learn something about the threat to the u. S. From these attacks that took place here in paris . One thing that struck me is you had the kouachi brothers who carried out the take on Charlie Hebdo, the magazine, talking about ties to al qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula. They said that to reporters and others. You had Amedy Coulibaly who took the people in the kosher market hostage who apparently recorded a video claiming allegiance to isis. Do we draw lines between these groups and whos influencing who and whos directing who more so than there are actually lines . Is it that young men like this might be radicalized by a number of groups and act on their own . Well, i think astthat is exactly right, jim. Theyre very hard to categorize or pigeon hole. If you look at the broader context of whats happened in olt ottawa recently, australia london before that you see there are a variety of affiliation affiliations some with aqap some with isis potentially, some purely homegrown. Some that may have acted on instructions. Others that may have just been inspired to do so by online propaganda. And, you know you see this you know Broad Spectrum of potential vulnerabilities, and we have to try to address them all. Thats an enormous challenge, and as you no doubt have seen the president is going to be holding another summit on this topic in terms of our focus on our homeland to try to bring about a greater collaborative effort to protect the country, to work with Community Leaders and religious leaders. These are some of the steps in addition to having intelligence capabilities that are necessary to protect the country. Well certainly a great deal of nervousness here and in the u. S. As well. Representative adam schiff, thanks for joining us. I know well continue this conversation going forward. Thanks, jim. Antisemitic violence has soared in the last year here in france. Well discuss possible reasons why and what can be done about it right after this break. With tmobile and iphone 6 you can make wifi calls beyond the reach of cellular networks. Hey brandon whats up . So you can talk from down here. Smile for grandma or text pictures from up here. Ok, there we go, should we send a photo . You can even make calls, way over here. Talk and text over wifi, with wifi calling on iphone 6. Only from tmobile. Now get iphone 6 for 0 down. And welcome back. Im jim sciutto in paris tonight. There has been a staggering increase in antisimitic violence in france. Just over the last year. An official with an affiliate of the European Jewish Congress Tells cnn that violence against jews rose 91 from 2013 to 2014. Officials also say twice as many french jews moved to israel during that same time period to escape that antisemitism and a climb of intolerance. Earlier i spoke with Vice President of the french union of jewish students as well as cnn Global Affairs analyst bobby ghosh. I know that theres a lot of jewish french that the number of increased this year but i think that today the issue is that we have to about the french jews that will stay in france because theres a lot of jews that will stay here and we think that the issue is to talk about them. Some people want to leave. This is their choice. Right. But this is a a majority are in france and want to live in france. They love this country and they want to stay here. Right. We saw an enormous turnout today in todays rally among the French Jewish Community. Bobby, i wonder if i could ask you, are you aware of anything specific that has happened that has caused this really remarkable upswing in violence against french jews even before these attacks this week just over the course of the last year . Well there are two things that are taking place simultaneously that sort of inform and certainly the rise of the extreme right and the party which has opened the xenophobic and freektsquently been accused of antisemitic. As we learned from the events this week the rise of islamic radicalism. Theres also a strong strain of antisemitism there. So youve got this coming from two different sides of the political and religious spectrum. So the question is what is mainstream france doing to make young jewish people or jewish people in general feel protected and to prevent this kind of an exodus . And i wonder if noam has a thought on that. How does he feel caught between the two extremisms . Does he feel the french state is doing enough . Its a good question for you. Are you getting the protection the French Jewish Community needs . Yeah. So we met with Francois Hollande this morning. He said we make more security for our jewish people but there is a lot of security following them. The french Protection Movement in france. There is the police. And we have a lot of protection. So noi think this protection will be increased because of the war against terrorism. The far right. I think there is a lot of danger for jewish but for french people too. Because we have saw that and its very very sad that not only the jewish were targets. Were targets by these jihadists. They are Charlie Hebdo, they are policemen. This is france that was a target. Right. It is france that is a target. Not just muslims, et cetera. Noam thanks so much. Good to hear that expression of confidence and commitment to staying in france. Good to have you on noam. Bobby ghosh, great to have you as well. In the wake of these attacks in france the group isis making new threats to the west including the u. S. Well have more on that right after this. Hiring new employees can be tough. But it doesnt have to be. Because now you can post to over 50 of the top job boards with just one click with ziprecruiter. Find candidates in any industry, nationwide. Just post once and watch your qualified candidates roll in to ziprecruiters easy to use interface. Find out today why ziprecruiter has been used by over 250,000 businesses. They even offer a 100 satisfaction guarantee. And right now, you can try ziprecruiter, for free. Go to ziprecruiter. Com free50 we just learned hackers are taking claim in response to the massacre at Charlie Hebdo magazine. Members of the Group Anonymous say they targeted a french jihad jihadist website and redirected it to a Search Engine called duck duck go. They revealed dozens of twitter accounts they say belong to jihadists. Lets get back to paris where jim sciutto is after a very historic day there. Jim . No question, blee brianna. Crowds marking through the streets of paris for a unity rally in the wake of the deadly terror attacks. More than 40 World Leaders flew into paris just for todays event. President obama, however, did not attend. Our Senior International correspondent, fred pleitgen, has all the highlights. Yeah jim, it was a gigantic crowd that covered here which was the starting point of that unity march that was here earlier today. It was interesting because it was literally people of all faiths here in this country that gathered. There were people from the Muslim Community, from the Jewish Community, from the Christian Community as well. They wanted to symbolize that. They wanted to show that their answer to these horrible attacks that happened here over the past couple of days was unity and that they would not be divided. Of course one of the big dangers that many people saw is that after all this took place is that perhaps, it would be the radical voices that would take over and that would form the debate that would be leading the debate. However, today, france saw that its Civil Society would not be led into that. That in fact it would be the large majority that perhaps the state silent for way too long that would not be leading this debate. One of the main things that i witnessed and i found very heartwarming is i had a lot of muslims come up to me and they said, we want to show the world this does not happen in our name. There was one imam who came her from a town pretty far away to say that he wanted to show his support for the Jewish Community here in this country. The other main message was, of course is that france will not be intimidated, that theyre not going to allow their way of life to be influenced by a bunch of radical terrorists. That they were going to take a stand here and that the majority would not allow itself to be divided. Jim . Fred pleitgen there. New isis video prompted the fbi and Homeland Security department to issue a new security bulletin in the u. S. Video is making the rounds online. In it an isis spokesman calls for mujahadin to rise up and kill soldiers government employees, members of the media, and civilians. He specifically targeted the u. S. The uk and france. All participants in the u. S. Led coalition against isis. Our terrorism experts are back former cia operative bob baer former u. S. Military attache in syria colonel Rick Francona and cnn Global Affairs analyst former delta force commander, Lieutenant Colonel james reese. Bob, i wonder if i can begin with you. Our viewers heads must be spinning with each new terror warning every week or two. Sometimes in response to terror attacks, sometimes in response to new intelligence. So you have a new threat now in the wake of these attacks or new warning, i should say. How should americans respond to that . Is there a measurable increase in the threat in the u. S. Today . Well jim, let me put it this way. For the last three or four years weve been saying people like me socalled experts and the rest of it someones going to get hit in europe very soon. And, indeed it has happened. Now, ive gone to Law Enforcement sources here and i said, is it going to happen here . Are there cells here . Do they have the weapons . Do they have the capabilities . All theyll tell me is theyre here and they can strike. I have no more details than that. Theyre friends of mine and i theyre not trying to lead me along. So i think that we are closer to an attack here but when could it be a couple years . It all goes back to the conflict in the middle east. The longer it goes on the wars in syria, iraq africa the more likely theyre going to find ready recruits capable of making a strike similar to the one in paris. There was another warning that went out from the state department a couple of days ago, worldwide warning, that when you read it it says to americans traveling abroad to be vigilant just about everywhere. It names virtually every continent and virtually every public place imaginable from shopping centers, to sporting events museums, et cetera. Jim reese, im a dad. Youre a dad. Youre concerned about yourself and your loved ones. How do people process this information to make decisions . Because i think really you know whether its a dhs warning, or a state Department Travel warning, its impossible to understand how it should change what we actually do. Jim, youre right. And its difficult sometimes. The best thing we can do for all of our loved ones is to make sure that were, one, diligent. That two, we talk about where were going, what were doing. Were not spiking who we are while were out there. And really weve talked you and i have talked about this for several months now we have to teach our children our friends, that we need to pay attention. And when you look at those sites that the federal government tells us to take a look at you know we need to either move through them or stay away from them. But just be very diligent and stay aware and Say Something if you see something. You hear that from u. S. Law enforcement all the time. Rick francona one thing that certainly impressed me today here in par price was even just a few days after very scary attacks, deadly attacks here, even during what we have reported is a new Terror Threat here in france particularly targeting police we saw all those millions of people come out in defiance of that. I imagine, you know that listen thats what we should all do i suppose to some degree, because terrorism is about scares people. What do you recommend . You spend so much time in the middle east in a crisis country in syria. What do you recommend to people at home . How do they process these new warnings . Well i think i think its important that you know we continue our daily activities and we be vigilant as both bob and jim have said. But you cant change your entire life based on this because youll be constantly doing nothing. I really am impressed with the outpouring of support that the french are doing, the french people are doing for their journalists and the rest of the world is coming together but this is going to be short lived. The terrorism threat is not going away. The terrorists will sit back and wait. I think it is only a matter of time before we see this again. The problem is and we see this here that these cells are so small. They operate below the radar. As bob was mentioning theyre here theyre in the United States but theyre very hard to track. This cell had probably four people in it. The one that caused all of this problem. We now see how much damage three beam people can do. I think this is the wave of the future. This is something were going to have to address and its going to be with us for a long time to come. No question. Rick francona jim reese, bob baer great to have you on. Brianna, thats the new normal. You hear it so often. Just a handful of people with a couple of guns can cause so much mayhem. But, you know we have to live our lives and we certainly saw that today in paris. Yeah all of the hundreds of thousands of people millions across france trying to make that point and they sure did. It was heard loud and clear jim. Todays yoontyunity rally was in france was about free speech and honoring the lives of those lost in the terror attacks. You might be surprised to know some of the leaders who traveled to paris for this theyre not always supporters of a free press back home. Well discuss that next. Music. The getaway vehicle for all the confidence you need. Td ameritrade. You got this. Out of 42 vehicles. Based on 6 different criteria. Why did a panel of 11 automotive experts. Name the Volkswagen Golf motor trends 2015 car of the year . Well give you four good reasons the allnew Volkswagen Golf starting at 17,995. Theres an Award Winning golf for everyone. It was certainly inspiring to see more than 40 World Leaders and top officials at todays unity reality here in france it highlighted a paradox of sorts. The rally was as much about standing up for free speech as it was for the victims of the recent terror attacks in france. Some of the leaders attending the rally have a less than stellar record when it comes to freedom of speech or of the press. Even cases some jailing reporters if they disagree with. I want to tackle that topic with Senior International correspondent arwa damon as well as Boston College professor of political science, jonathan laurence. Arwa, you spend a lot of your time in countries particularly in the region where we know less than stellar and frankly hypocritical records when it comes to press freedom. Turkey for instance where youre going to be based now has been cracking down on media. They showed up here. How do we balance that contradiction when you see those leaders show up . Does that make that partly an empty message . It depends on how it all plays out afterwards. Yes, this was an attack against journalists. Yes, this was an attack against freedom of speech. But this also was a terrorist attack on a broader level, and perhaps that show of unity we were seeing from some of these more questionable countries when it comes to their own press freedoms was not necessarily because they believed that deeply in freedom of the press, but because they wanted to take a stance against terrorism. And so at this stage, thats what the focus is probably and should be. How do you move forward from here . Can it its interesting because both on the terror side and freedom of speech side, youve seen some unlikely leaders coming out and expressing their support or their condemnation. One from hezbollah criticized these attacks. To see hamas criticize these attacks. On the other side you have dictatorial regimes coming out to show their support. Is there any way this show of unity, as well as just the horribleness of these attacks, can shame even the questionable leaders into improving what they do . One can hope that that might be you know an outcome out of whats going to happen but then theres also this fear that we heard echoed from a number of people that we spoke to. Whether they were jewish or muslim or merely french nationals. That this is just going to be what it was today. An amazing, phenomenal show of unity and, yet, nothing concrete is actually going to change. We wont know that i mean until we give it some time. Exactly, but people want to see change. Yeah. If there is the capacity to display the kind of compassion that we saw out there today, to transcend those deep divides that exist not just in france when it comes to religion or ethnicity or background but throughout the entire world, and especially in some of these countries in the middle east that are so fraught with violence. Then perhaps theres a way to tap into that compassion so that what we saw today, that unity, is not just that one act of a day. Right. Its going to be in the followthrough. Jonathan lawrence, i wanturence i want to ask you. There was evidence in the mid 2000s as al qaeda carried out deadlier and deadlier attacks if places such as iraq that it was losing its support. Americans may not know this but al qaeda has supporters in that part of the world. It was losing some of its support. Is there any evidence with a particularly brutal attack like we saw at Charlie Hebdo, and the video images of that cop lying on the street asking for his life and being executed any evidence that that saps the support that we have to acknowledge for extremist groups, for terrorist groups such as isis aqap et cetera . Well this is unfortunately, the result perhaps, of the success in breaking the Leadership Structure of al qaeda. Which is that you have an increasing likelihood of lone wolf attacks which are, perhaps, not directed by al qaeda central. Remember the kouachi brothers a acting as an echo of al awlaki whom the United States killed in a drone strike years ago. They dont need al zawahiri or ben laudedy or al awlaki alive for messages. They can download a pdf from the internet inspire magazine, listed the cartoonist at Charlie Hebdo as prime targets. The idea and inspiration unfortunately does not require central organization. Yeah these magazines not only provide the target list they also provide the recipes for the bombs, et cetera. Jonathan laurence arwa damon, great to have you. Well have more news on this, the rally today, and increasing Terror Threats right after this break. With tmobile and iphone 6 you can make wifi calls beyond the reach of cellular networks. Hey brandon whats up . So you can talk from down here. Smile for grandma or text pictures from up here. Ok, there we go, should we send a photo . You can even make calls, way over here. Talk and text over wifi, with wifi calling on iphone 6. Only from tmobile. Now get iphone 6 for 0 down. Millions of people marched and rallied today in paris and across france. The largest such gathering in that countrys history. The most common thing that we saw and heard in those rallies is je suis charlie, in solidarity with the people who died in the magazine attack on wednesday. The citys Jewish Community was rattled by this violence too. On friday, the violence happened at the kosher supermarket, four lives were lost there. Today that scene is a memorial. Cnns Atika Shubert is there. Reporter sunday in paris. The city tries to return to a normal life. The bullet holes are still there for all to see at the kosher supermarket. A makeshift memorial nearby continues to grow as heavily armed police keep a watchful eye removing suspicious packages alert and on guard. On sunday morning the Jewish Community gathered here for prayers. Its been like this all day. People have been streaming in to the site from across all different communities to bring flowers, light candles, but also with this message i am a jew, or i am jewish. The french rallying cry for people to show support for those jewish victims specifically targeted in this attack. Israeli politicians also came. Naftali bennett, the controversial right wing leader of the Jewish Home Party shook hands with the jewish parisians at the scene comforting those who came to mourn with an offer to emigrate to israel. If they decide to come to israel, we will accept them and embrace them. If they decide to stay here we will continue to make sure that theyre secure. The world has to wake up. Reporter many french jews we spoke with are now seriously considering that offer. This man told us the Jewish Community is no longer safe. The attacks against jews are now sporadic and completely irregular. Its on the weekends every day. There are antisemitic attacks against the jews in france and across europe. This woman told us i envision that i will leave for israel when i have a good moment because unfortunately now, here, im afraid. Frances chief rabbi says leaving france is an individual choice but it wont solve the problem for the whole community. But my problem, and the problem in france we have an old one, but i think we need to say, again happy like in france. We need jewish people to be happy. I think we can do that together only when we are together as friends. Reporter on sunday parisians rallied in solidarity with their jewish neighbors. But this weeks targeted attack may convince some french jews that france is no longer a safe place to call home. Atika shubert, cnn, paris. Joining me now, bob baer National Security analyst. We also have retired Lieutenant Colonel james reese. Bob, we reported earlier the number of jewish families leaving france it has just spiked and they really say it isnt a tolerant place for them. They really dont feel safe and thats really something to that bob. Oh i think so. I mean this attack on the kosher supermarket is something new. Al qaeda as not previously gone after jewish targets before. So this should concern them. Secondly theres very large propalestinian community in france which is you might say theyre antisemitic. And israel is saying listen youll be safer in israel and i think this will have a certain appeal to french jews. I mean i think, colonel, just for instance i think a lot of people learned about something that certainly jews in france have been dealing with for a long time. Last year when a footballer talked about something not talked about, actually displayed a hand gesture, l. You have kids using this on social media, it is everywhere. And this is seen by people as really a sign of antisemitism, this is the reality that i think maybe people in other countries, certainly not in the u. S. That you cant really appreciate. Thats not something we see going on in the u. S. Right colonel . Well brianna, youre right, unfortunately if we pull back the black vail of reality veil of reality to see whats there, thats where these things come up. Its not going to matter what happened three days ago or today. Its going to matter next week. Both with the Jewish Community and with the, you know, the french al jeria community. There was a french comedian who was censored for having some smetic comedy out there, and he was censored because in france theres a lot of guilt over world war ii and the jews that left and where they went during world war ii. Yeah, certainly the cooperation of the government there, and a lot of guilt, and in fact actually i believe the nazi salute is banned in france. What do you think, bob, when you look at when you look at the reality and the divisions that were seeing there . What can be done . What can be done to make french jews feel feel safer . Im worried about france. Im worried not just about this be attack. Im worried about the five to six million muslims there which remain disaffected. I know theres been that in big corporation. The economy is lousy, weak government europe is in trouble. The euro is down, and theres a lot of insecurity running through that country, and you know finally we had unity today, but in the future if you really thought there was an antise mettic movement you might find a better home in israel again, i think theres a strong appeal for a lot of french jews to leave and immigrate to israel. You can see that. And clearly, colonel, one of the solutions or something that france needs to strive for that perhaps it hasnt is to better integrate its Muslim Community. You see a lot of isolation, you see in the Muslim Community proportionate levels of poverty and unemployment. Is that key or is the problem too far gone at this point . I think youve hit the mark. I mean thats exactly what we need brianna a lot of people talk about talking assimilation of the islamic community, integration, but most of these people were born in france. Unfortunately, what this is it really they are considered a second class citizen in france. Even though they were born there. Second class citizens and you have the nogo areas in france for people that were born and french citizens by birth, it just doesnt make sense. Yeah and they certainly do feel isolated and no doubt, you see that there is an appeal for some people to go towards extremism, its horrible but its what were seeing happening in france. We could talk about this all day, but gentlemen, thanks so much for chatting with me about it bob bear and colonel reeves thanks for being with me. Images of historic day today. Up next over a Million People converged in this historic rally in the middle of paris. How one photographer captured the moment. Hey guess what day it is . . Hump day hummmp daaay its hump day yeah hey Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike Mike mike mike. Hey he knows hey guess what day it is hey camel guess what day it is its not even wednesday. Let it go, phil. If youre a camel, you put up with this all the time. Its what you do. sigh if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. Its what you do. Ok. Marie callenders knows a flaky crust and vegetables mixed with tender chicken and homemade gravy make for the best chicken pot pie. Marie callenders. Peter turnly is an Award Winning americanborn photographer who splits his time between paris and new york. His photos have made the covers of National Geographic and new yorker. He was at the rally in paris and he agreed to share how he saw this historic event. Reporter ive lived in paris for 40 years and have covered many of the most Important International news stories of these past decades. On several occasions today, tears came to my eyes as i saw the largest rally in the sense of liberation in paris. Today france spoke with a unified loud voice and said no to terrorism and yes to freedom of speech liberty, and democracy. In the crowd of possibly two million faces, one could see people from all backgrounds, ethnic groups religions, and walks of life, and together at many occasions they collectively shouted via la france. Ive seen places the power of people when they stand up and hold hands and take a stand for what is right. Today, france stood together with millions of voices and hands together expressed their pride and love for the values of freedom and love for each other and for their country and for life itself. Todays rally offered a vision for the entire world in the midst of recent days of tragedy and terror of how beautiful and wonderful life can be when people stand together unified against violence and in defense of freedom. I have now lived for more than half my life in paris, having arrived here myself when i was 9 years old. Today like millions of others around me i was charlie, and my heart was french. I want to bring in jim who is in paste and talk about some of those images we saw over and over jim the pencil this paying homage to freedom of expression even from a magazine that was no doubt very provocative, and we also saw in these marches today, not only World Leaders linking arms but we saw a lot of muslims who were such a part of the fabric of french life and really out there saying they reject this these are false muslims who committed these horrible acts and we saw what this was meant to be a march of unity. Brianna, over the last few days we have experienced, weve witnessed painful and difficult lows. The shock of terror attacks, the pain the fear the sorrow the mourning, and then today, we saw this tremendous high of unity across cultures across countries, defiance strength and courage, such a relief to see that and inspiring, lets just hope that its those highs that hold the day. Yes, that certainly is the hope jim, thank you so much. Anchoring from paris for us this weekend. Im Brianna Keeler in new york stay tuned to cnn and cnn for all of the latest developments and i want to thank all of our international viewers. You will be returned to your regular scheduled programming on cnn we have the hunt with john walsh beginning right now. Back in 1981, i had the american dream. The beautiful wife, the house in the suburbs and a beautiful 6yearold son. And one day i went to work, kissed my son goodbye, never saw him again. 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