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On the verge of taking off. I havent made any decisions yet. I have managed over what my future might look like and im excited by some of the possibilities. Im sure you guys will be among the first to know once i have showed up. I am happy to talk about myself. I will as long as its not my last briefing and i will probably have a few more polished things to say at some point before i go. I obviously want to thank the president , the Vice President , first lady and dr. Biden. Its been an amazing experience, just so fulfilling. And i said as we surprised some folks in here and the minutes before i came out that probably the best part about it is that in midlife you dont often make a whole new set of friends. Not just friends but people you would fight by and for under any circumstance and that is what i have been lucky enough to get over these past five and a half years. People more often than not say to me that you have one of the hardest times. Im not saying its easy every day but i love it. Its an important interaction that takes place here. Its not always pretty. It could certainly be better. But its to be a part of it is an honor and a joy for me. And no matter how tough tough the briefing is, i walk out of here having been glad to stand here. I will take more questions and talk about me. There you have it. To make the formal to make the second announcement here. Somewhat of a surprise. In second terms, white house officials get burnt out or want to move on so its not a total surprise. No its not. And before working for thement of the united states, he was the press secretary for the Vice President of the united states. Before that, he was a journalist at Time Magazine so he made the transition from one side of the podium asking the questions to being at the podium. Thats a very difficult transigs to make. Joe biden is not the easiest person to defend. During the Veterans Affairs issue, its a tough job. He has had a bunch of fights with journalists as one would expect but as he said, it was an experience he wouldnt have traded for anything. Former Time Magazine Washington Bureau chief. Lots of news going on in the meantime. Lets turn it over to brooke baldwin. Brooke . I what a day. Lets begin. Embattled as a soldier. Eric shinseke proved he was a it was announced that shinseke is stepping down. This comes after weeks of revelati revelations. Hundreds of veterans simply. With considerable regret, i accept it. He was coming in today. What made the difference he will be a distraction from the task at hand, which is to make sure that whats broken gets fixed. His fellow veterans Getting Services that we need. I want to reiterate i dont mean that he has been an outstanding soldier and an accomplished man, hes a good person. The president took that podium a couple of minutes before shinseke was at a podium himself. He did get emotional after announcing a string of reforms. Eliminating patient wait times is is a measure of bonuses loved ones who i have been honored to serve. I cant explain the lack of integrity among some of the leaders of our health care facilities. This is something i rarely encounter during 38 years in uniform. Joining me now, the man who broke this story a retired va doctor from that phoenix facility. Did shinseke resign on his own or did the president ask him to . I dont know that it really matters. So many people on capitol hill were calling for him to resign. We have talked in the past and you have said. After the announced reforms, do you still believe that . Yeah, im still worried about it. And i think thats really a crying shame. Drew, how shameful is it . Shameful that it took everyone including members of congress to really highlight the problem and to act. I still to this day dont understand it. Everybody he could tell individually around the country, people who are generally in charge sit a shame today that general shinseke is taking the fall when hundreds of people who are truly responsible for this are going to show up for work on monday at the va . It is a shame. That was the only way that ever would get any attention on it. If it was not for drew and scott and cnn, no one would know about this. Were grateful for you. Veterans in the end will be grateful for you. Do you wish you would have called drew earlier. I just didnt have the information. When youre trying to put together a puzzle, you have a thousand pieces and it takes a while until you can recognize what the picture is. I wish that had not happened because we could have been quicker. The shut down. Thank you so much and drew, thank you. Shinsekes replacement has been at the va for fewer than four months. His father served while his grandfather was a world war i infantry man. 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Patients died while waiting to be seen by doctors. Daniel wrote as part of his note, too trapped in a war to be at peace, too damaged to be at war. With me now, the parents of daniel, howard and gene. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you, brooke. Gene, lets just begin. Can you take me. He was a pretty determined kid. He initially said he thought he might want to do bomb disposal, which was really frightening. He was anxious to that was like the first mos that was available. We said is there something thats maybe down the line a little bit. He chose that as a mission specialty. Brooke, if i may, daniel joined the California National guard. He did not sign up for the army itself. It was only after war was declared or Police Action or whatever it was that was declared in 2003. Deployed twice, when he finally came home, how did you realize that he wasnt necessarily the same daniel . Well, he had changed significantly. You could just see from the way he was acting. He couldnt function before 12 00 noon. He had a lot of trouble sleeping. We heard that he and his wife and they were married just before daniel turned 19. Couldnt even sleep in the same bed if he touched her. That became a real issue for the two of them. He was just a happy go lucky kid. Gene, where were you in gene of last year when you got the news. We were visiting howards sister in new jersey. We were in new jersey. We were outside. It was a beautiful day. It was about 6 00 east coast time. Were not able to come home a couple days later. You two decided to share this note with the world some time ago. To highlight the troubles if you will, either of you, because it Means Nothing coming from my words reading it, would either of you be willing to read that first quote. My body has become nothing but a cage, a source of pain and constant problems. The illness i have has caused me pain that not even the strongest medicines could dull and there is no cure. All day every day a screaming agony in every nerve ending in my body. It is nothing short of torture. My mind is a wasteland filled with visions of horror, crippling anxiety even with all the medications the doctors dare give. Simple things that everyone else takes for granted are nearly impossible for me. I cannot laugh or cry. I can barely leave the house. I derive no pleasure from any activity. Everything comes down to passing time until i can sleep again. Now to sleep forever seems to be the most merciful thing. Forgive me. This is tough. Daniel, he was ultimately diagnosed with ptsd and brain injury and other issues a year after the end of his second deployment. And i know that he sought help from this phoenix va, the same va that happened to quince dentally be at the center of our investigation here. Could you tell me about the process. Can you tell me about the seemingly archaic method with a postcard . His first problem was that he couldnt get in initially because he was with the National Guard in active Ready Reserve status, which means he wasnt really discharged. The National Guard system hit his unit could have been deployed at any time. When he officially went to the va they told them they could not see them because he was not a veteran and they directed him to go to a dod hospital. He was told he was not active duty. That whole first process took three months for him, for the va to finally agree that they were the appropriate facility to even have access to. The way the postcard system works and we still that its a postcard system. Were not sure. We have had dealings with what is now the former administration. Up until march of this year, if you could get somebody on the phone they would send you a postcard for your appointment but no guarantee, of course, that you received that postcard. This is not only. So he would call. I just it could be months and months. And then there was the issue of he had a top level security clearance. When he sought up psych yat trick help he needed to speak with an individual. So the va said to him when he made that request, correct me if im wrong, its either Group Therapy or nothing. We can check on this. This seems to be fairly true for psych visits in the private sector as well through private insurance. But again, we need to check on that. His provider told him that and this was somebody he had clicked with. It was a psychiatrist that he was going to be leaving and that daniel should go out to the desk. So, he went out and remember this was 2008. 2013 he had never received a postcard or any indication that he was going to be set up with another provider. Were going to take a break and get to the solutions because thats what i want to talk about. You know this so well. But before we take a break, again, to either of you you have agreed to read one more section of daniels note. Is it any wonder then that the latest figures show 2 v2 killing themselves each day . That is more veterans than children killed at sandy hook every single day. Where are the huge policy initiatives. Why isnt the president standing with those families at the state of the union . Perhaps because we were not killed by a single lunatic but rather by our system of dehumanization, neglect and indifference. We will be right back. Its the Little Things in life that make me smile. Spending the day with my niece. I dont use super poligrip for hold because my dentures fit well. Before those little pieces would get in between my dentures and my gum and it was uncomfortable. Even wellfitting dentures let in food particles. Super poligrip is zinc free. With just a few dabs, its clinically proven to seal out more food particles so youre more comfortable and confident while you eat. So its not about keeping my dentures in, its about keeping the food particles out. 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Solutions to help our military veterans. You two through your loss you have come up with answers and you have created this whole presentation to give, as you advocate for change, and we will get to these solutions in gist a smint. Now with this story that has burst wide open, hearing the news today, eric shinseke is stepping down, whats your response to that . I have concerns. President obama himself when he announced it indicated there was going to be a learning curve for the new person. When i hear learning curve i hear time wasted. I would have preferred that shinseke stay and maybe have a white house person alongside him to continue working on the problems since he we look at it from a veterans standpoint. And aware of what limitations there were and have maybe seen the bulb go on that people were not being honest with him, i think it would have been better. Howard may disagree. Do you disagree . I certainly do. But the major issue is from each branch of service to the chief operating officer of each hospital, of each medical center. I cant you cant even count the number of levels there are. And not only that, then you get to the hospital itself and then you have all the other level zps i dont want to open up pandoras box but you have the unions. We are pro union. I want to get that out. In this case it has become a big part of the problem. You legislate it and you get democrats and republicans in the same room and you get them to think about whats good for the country, not think about whats good for their election. Beyond hopefully both sides getting together and working this out, what are specific solutions you all have. One of the biggest that we have is the va is two things. It has a medical side and a business side. The business side is what is really really broken. The bureaucracy is broken. Thats what we need to restructure. Its just an idea. Lets throw stuff out here and Start Talking about it. What about if we made the Veterans Administration facilities centers of excellence. If you have a broken arm, why cant you just go out into the community and have somebody fix your broken arm. Traumatic brain injury. Gulf war syndrome. Maybe these things are what we should concentrate on at that level. We know that a lot of veterans. We have found out of course over this last almost 12 months that there is a voucher system in place. They do have the ability to send patients out into the community. You can go into the private sector. You have to find your own provider and a provider that will accept the reemburresment that is being authorized by the va but you can if youre authorized. There is also a vision system that nobody is aware of. This is another level that is so you have 22, which are responsible for the different geographically located medical centers. So you do and they are actually authorized to send patients to other medical centers within their vision. So it might be, you know, 500 miles. But at least you have the opportunity if you needed to have something done on a more expedient method. Where it should be within your, you know, seen when you should be seen. This is the beginning of a much bigger conversation. If i mae end where we began with daniel. And so just before we go to break, can you just tell me a little more about him and what you miss the most . Are you kidding . He was a nonstop talker if you speak to anybody who knew daniel, he had a friend who had a cell phone that he paid by the minute. And as much as he loved daniel, he would have to tell daniel, daniel this is costing me money. He could go on forever. About any subject. We tell him he should be a lawyer because he could argue either side of the issue and you would believe which ever side he was arguing. He had an amazing source of knowledge about any subject. We miss being able to pick up the phone and call our encycloped encyclopedia. We miss our best friend. Howard and gene, thank you so much. And grateful for your sons service. Thank you for tabing the time. Thank you very much. We have breaking news on Mental Health of the la clippers owner. Donald sterling has been found mentally incapacitated. What that means for the 2 billion sale of the clippers and sterlings response next. Honestly, the offseason isnt ive got a lot to do. Thats why i got my surface. Its great for watching game film and drawing up plays. Its got onenote, so i can stay on top of my todo list, which has been absolutely absurd since the big game. With skype, its just really easy to stay in touch with the kids i work with. Alright, russell you are good to go alright, fellas. Alright, russ. Back to work those little Cialis Tadalafil for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. 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This was determined sometime within the past several weeks we believe probably within the past month. The first source told me that the two physicians examining him were both neurologists. The second source said under the Sterling Family trust there is a provision that says if one or the other, if donald or Shelly Sterling becomes mentally incapacitated the other would become sole trustee. So shelly was able to negotiate the sale of the clippers as the sole trustee and thats how that deal got done yesterday. We did have a response as you just read from maxwell bleacher, the attorney for Donald Sterling. That his diagnosis was a modest mental impairment and that he is far from being inkpas tated. Brian todd with those new developments here and the latest from sterlings attorney, thank you so much for that. We will stay on this and find out exactly what all of this now means for this reported 2 billion sale of the la clippers. Back after a quick break. Tonight, a heat win means they will head to their fourth consecutive nba final. The spurs beat the thunder last night. They lead 3 games to 2. Two teams head back tomorrow night. And talking basketball, back door breaking news, skrmpb nn has learned that Donald Sterling has been declared mentally incapacitated by two physicians and this could have huge implications. If two doctors find him mentally unfit, his wife, shelly, becomes the sole trustee. What does this mean for a possible deal . Lets talk about it with sports attorney and agent l lee steinberg. This is huge. If this is in the family trust and if donl sterling has been ruled mentally unfit, then that would mean that his wife Shelly Sterling could sell the team by tuesday. And the long term of sterling would come to an end. If she does that, they can go ahead and vote on accepting baumers bid. He already has been cleared as part of a prospective sale for the kings, so, he already has been vetted by the league so that shouldnt take very long. So this solves their problem. He is not from los angeles, which people were hoping. But he has paid a massive price and some think an irrational price when you consider that so, this is a massive price. It probably leads to a happy ending. If sterling continues to fight this we will go tuesday night to a revocation hearing where he is certain to lose the team. But this oddessey could possibly end by tuesday. Were hearing this deal could be 2 billion, what do you think the sterlings could walk away with . I think that they will pay what called Capital Gains tax. The team was purchased for 12 million. I would say that a s a reasonable return. Thats a lot of money. Lets be real. It is. Sooner or later youre talking about real money. The dodgers who are the most popular team in Southern California were and had a stadium to sell and the clippers dont went for a billion eight and people thought that was ridiculous. There will be a new nba contract that will yield more money. But still this is a massive commitment and it wont yield return for some years. Lee, thank you so much for your expertise here. A Major Development involving the red carpet attack on brad pitt. What weve now learned next. Even when we cross our ts and dot our is, we still run into problems. Thats why Liberty Mutual insurance offers accident forgiveness if you qualify, and new car replacement standard with our auto policies. So call Liberty Mutual today. And if you switch, you could save up to 423. Liberty Mutual Insurance. Responsibility. Whats your policy . This socalled journalist charged with battery and assault. He is now out of a job and faces potentially months in jail and brad pitt, by the way, not the first star he has had runins with. Will smith, Bradley Cooper and. Here we go on this friday. Embattled is the Veterans Affairs chief. President obama announced that sh shinseke is stepping down. Including the secret waiting list. Veterans who died while waiting for care and hundreds of veteran s. Secretary shinseke offered his own resignation. As he told me this morning, the va needs new leadership to address them. The issue is to fix the problem and make sure the vets are getting the care they need. The president took the podium a couple of hours after shinseke himself was standing behind a podium. He got emotional after announcing a string of reforms that include removing leaders at the phoenix va at the heart of this whole scandal. And speeding up veterans medical care. I apologize. The families and loved ones loves ones over five years now, the call of a lifetime. Joining me now, montel williams, a military veteran. Also here, our investigative correspondent who broke this story wide open. We were talking about now that we know shinseke will be out, you have made this point that there should be many others who are still working who should be gone as well. Yeah, and i think to fix the va, those are the people you have to go after and root out this entrenched bureaucracy that got eric shinseke in trouble. He said basically he didnt say he was lied to. I will say he was lied to. He was misinformed by the staff around him. Those people are still at work at the va. Who are they . Why did they do it . Get rid of them and put in competent people who have one goal, deliver health care to veterans. Montel, you served in the marine corps and later in the navy. You are absolutely livid. Even though they listened, this action really isnt enough. Its not enough. Brooke, i have been saying for th for the last four or five days. If you follow me on twitter and and come up on hash tag va surge, if you follow me that way you will find out that a lot of people agree that its time for us to stop talking and just get it done. Today the president could say, listen to me, im going to stop this today. Im going to surge immediately. Each one of the Surgeon Generals could come together and allow veterans to go on active duty basis around the country and see if we can clean out the backlog. Then we at least know what we have to pay. We dont know the extent of how many soldiers. Were talking about one base, 1700 . We will find out its everywhere. I agree we need top down change and there are things that can be done immediately. We will Talk Solutions but i cant help but break in. I cant stop thinking about these parents that i talked to last hour. Gene and howard somers. Their son deployed twice, took his own life last june. He happened to have been treated at this phoenix va and niz n his suicide note he talks about frustrations of not getting proper treatments. When you look at the numbers, 22 veterans commit suicide a day in this country. Im not sure were talking about this enough. I know you have met other parents. Does that story sound familiar to you . This is a disaster. This is part of the problem. We keep talking, they keep dying. Right now today while we take another two months to figure out if congress or the senate is going to approve the next person we could fix this right now. The president is going to go searching for people. An admiral retired who is actually the grandfather of the dla. All he does is logistics. We need to make sure we get the services to where we need to be. He can bring him in today. You can bring in ken fisher. Also the head of a fisher foundation. 68 different hospitals around the country. You can bring them in. These are guys who can tell you right now how you can immediately end the backlog. Thats what we have to do. As we talk about what we need to do over the next couple of years, we dont know how much money we need to set aside. Do you think that will happen . Get it done, get it done . No. Not unless we get people screaming at the top of their lungs. Do it this way. Follow me on twitter and use hash tag sorry, va surge. If you go there now, today in the president s speech, the president actually said if we dont have enough doctors we will surge. So he is hearing those people who have already been tweeting this for the last four days. Lets get it done. Stop the talk and get it done. I saw a tweet from a veteran who basically said he hopes the nation doesnt stop caring about the story once shinseke resigns. He says veterans deserve more. His words were a sacrificial lam. You know what . Thats exactly whats going to happen right now. Over the next couple of days, this story is going to wind down and you will get back to the bickering between the senate and the congress and we will forget about the fact that there are still soldiers on the battlefield. We cant even fulfill the promise. Am i mad . I am. Im really mad. Im angered more by the rest of us. There is not enough people out there just screaming. A lot of these guys know this. This is not about me. All of us understand in thought about never leaving a soldier behind chl maybe some of us could start prompting the government. Dont leave a brother behind. Thats a great point. We keep screaming, we will keep screaming. Thank you. Thank you so much. Who is up next you ask . He is sloan gipson ch. He joined the United Services organizations as a charity helping veterans as veteran and ceo. G gibsons family has a long record of service. And another prominent face of the Obama Administration announced he is stepping down today. President obama made the surprise announcement in the Briefing Room not too long ago to announce that jay carney is leaving his post. That meant i had to make a decision which is who succeeds jay and we have got enormous talent around here. I have decided that we will put in this slot someone who is also a friend and advisor. Today the flag jacket is officially passed to a new generation, mr. Josh earnest. Josh earnest, here he is, the deputy press secretary. And earnest has filled in for carney at the podium several times. Coming up here, mixing booze and bullets. Does that sound like a good idea to you . A gun range has just approved a liquor license, a full bar feet away from the firing range. We will talk about that plus this. This man running and raving around the stage could be the next owner of the Los Angeles Clippers and this afternoon the nba responding to that news. 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We are following our breaking news regarding the mental state of clippers owner Donald Sterling. As we first broke last hour, cnn has learned that not just one but two independent doctors declared the man mentally inkpas tated. This means his wife, shelly, is now the sole trustee of the team, therefore, she could sell it. He said that sterile something far from being inkpcapacitatein. With this news, what becomes of this massive deal his wife shelly apparently signed with exmicrosoft ceo, the billionaire executive bid is 2 billion for this la team. Here now is patrick. Nice to see you. Nice to see you, brooke. How does this mentally incapacitated unfit medical analysis change this . I think a lot of people were concerned given sterns litigious past. But this is going to clear the path that as long as the nba owners approve. We will see a change of hands very soon. Why is it that you think we had this attorney on with wolf just yesterday, sterlings attorney basically saying that his client would continue to fig fight, and that was just before the reported news of the offer of 2 billion. Hot air. Much adieu about nothing. Its about moving forward. This is so many positive notes for so many positive people. They make out like bandits grossing almost 2 billion. So, you know, the nba owners are dancing across the leak. Their values have now gone up. Were talking 2 billion. Was that overinflated . This would have an impact not just on la but the nba across the board. It will have an impact on every franchise. There is no question in my mind that steve baumer overpaid for this franchise. This is a very competitive living process. There are only 30 nba owners. Its a tough group to get into and steve baumer has the money. Lets keep this in mind. The clippers have been profiting roughly about 15 million a year annually from operating income. When they get their new tv deal in about two years thats going to grow. We have the video of him on the stage talk about him like this full of energy, invigorated ideas kind of guy. He led micro soft. He had flirted with the notion that he wanted the king. What kind of owner would he be . I think hes going to be very dynamic and energetic. He better make sure hes physically fit because i dont want him to keel over doing a dance at the opening game here in the opening game. He went after the kings last year and so that also makes this whole process easier because the owners have already vetted him once before. You talk about tech people and his former poss, pa eer boss pa owned two successful franchises. He will be great injection of energy for the clippers. There was a lot to possibly happy over the weekend here before this tuesday deadline. Thank you so much for joining me. I appreciate it on this friday. 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A troubling detail from the investigation of last weeks tragic killings near santa barbara. Sheriffs deputies knew about the disturbing videos posted by this man but never actually watched them before deciding he wasnt a threat to anyone, before that welfare check when they went to his house. There was a time line released of how they handled the case and this contradicts an earlier statement that the office only became aware of the videos after the shootings. Students did return to class on wednesday at ucsb and one of rogers victims who survived by getting his car spoke to Anderson Cooper and says he just wants to look ahead. I just want to come out here and, you know, not like shed light on the situation but really just like show kind of a Positive Side to it, you know. Its a time where a lot of people are feeling sad and maybe feeling down. 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Once you start drinking youre not permitted back into the range as a shooter or spectator. As you were pointing out, they are the only range that serves alcohol in the state of oklahoma. I spoke to Larry Mcallister who believes there is one similar business in georgia and texas referred to as guntry clubs. Just so im clear. By scanning the drivers license, if someone tries eating and maybe having a few beers and going to the shooting range, what happens . Do bells go off . They cant what happens . If youre talking about someone drinking off prem sis and then go into the rank, that didnt come up. On prem sis at the restaurant. Yeah, if youre on prem sis, your drivers license gets scanned and youre not permitted back into the range. That is actually written into the law that was passed recently. Its actually very rare to see these businesses where alcohol and guns are present in the same place. There is a liquor store gun shop in oregon. 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Alright, russ. Back to work bottom of the hour. Im brooke bald wiwinbaldwin. Eric shinseke has resigned after revelations that cnn broke abuses across the country including the secret waiting lists. Veterans who died while waiting for care and hundreds of veterans ignored by the system. This is not just about the politics and the resignations. Daniel was sergeant in the intelligence unit. Has a machine gunner signed up for the National Guard a number of year ace go and he shot himself in june of last year at the age of 30. His parents and they are very first tvgreed to speak with me and shared how painful and desperate the need is to have a va that guides and not hinders their healing. Daniels father read me a portion of the note that their son left behind. My body has become nothing but a cage, a source of pain and constant problems. The illness i have has caused me pain that not even the strongest medicines could dull and there is no cure. All day every day a screaming agony in every nerve ending in my body, it is nothing short of torture. My mind is a waste landfilled with visions of incredible horror, increasing depression and crippling anxiety even with all the medications the doctors dare give. Simple things are nearly impossible for me. I cannot laugh or cry. I can barely leave the house. I derive a pressure. Now to sleep forever, seems to be the most merciful thing ever. Forgive me. This is tough. It took him three months to be seen but he was only seen within three months because we had a connection and because of that connection who had a connection at the facility they were able to get him in. I would have preferred that shinseke stay and maybe have a white house person alongside him to continue working on the problems. Do you disagree . I dont i certainly do. I think, though, that problems start at the top but the major issue is this huge entrenched bureaucracy. Why do we have so many levels that we have within this system. We always and one of the things that were going to talk about is the difference between the d. O. D. And va system. The va said it is committed to providing the highest quality care to veterans but when pressed they would not speak directly about the case. Paul, its nice to have you back on. Can you just please did you watch that a moment ago. Very raw or frustrated. The mother said that the fact that shinseke is gone is wasted time. Your reaction . I know and we work closely with them. They are heroic leaders and they have been raising this issue for a long time now. What too many veterans have had to go through. We stand strongly with them and maybe that story will be a wake up call for america. This is about real people like daniel that are dieing in america. We have got to get ahead of this and get them the resources. Right now thats not happening for far too many of our veterans. Now you have the news that shinseke is gone but that doesnt fix the problem. Now i think if command climate and atmosphere. We need someone who can be aggressive. Who can change the face of the va. We have also got to rip this bureaucracy apart. The senate has got to pass that and we need system wide performance. Washington needs to get its act together and start moving things forward. Thats exactly what they were saying. So when we look ahead here as far as leadership, we know that sloan gibson is taking over this post. Who would you like to see in the job . We know sloan pretty well. He is an army ranger, a paratrooper and has got a business background. He is new at va but were optimistic and were standing by to support him. We want to see a transformation agent. Somebody who can be a turn around artist. They have got to change the entire image and they have got to restore confidence. Right now its shattered. And the president has got to back him up. And many of our veterans go to when the va doesnt. It has got to be a National Call to action led by the president. I was talking to gary just the other day and he said the exact same thing. Paul, iava, thank you so much. Thank you. We appreciate you. You got it. Coming up next, Hillary Clinton fights back critics blaming her for the benghazi terror attack. An excerpt from her upcoming book leaked today. Hear the tough words directed at republicans. [is engineered for comfort. Hing that goes into a lennox system like parts that create your perfect temperature and humidity or the parts that purify the air. Together these parts can cut your heating and cooling bills in half. Which is quite comforting. And heres the best part. Call now to get up to 1,700 dollars back or special financing on select lennox home comfort systems. Offer ends june 13th. Plus download our free lennox mobile app with an energysavings calculator. If your Current System is 10 years or older, start planning now. 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