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Debris floating on the surface. It is probably the best lead we have right now. The American Navy and a group of 18 ships scouring the area. Aircraft taking to the skies. Storms at sea, though, hampering efforts. Dealing with white caps, bigger waves. Tough to see things. Ships move more slowly. Families just finishing up a press conference. Should a miracle be required . Thats what were hoping for. As malaysia manages expectations. For the families around the world, the one piece of information that they want most is the information we just dont have, the location of mh370. Here live in the cnn newsroom. Good morning. Thank you so much for joining me. Im carol costello. This is a special edition of newsroom. This morning, breaking news and a possible big break in the search for that missing plane. The latest lead satellite images of two large objects floating nearly 1500 miles off australias southwest coast. One of the most remote areas on earth. The debris, one large, one smaller, is triggering a race by sea and air to get a closer look. Heres what we know right now. The larger object on the left measures about 79 feet. Thats roughly the length of a wing on a 777 but again, there can be no confirmation until a ship actually retrieves these objects. The first ship has just reached the area. Its a norwegian vessel named the hoegh st. Petersburg. It was on its way to melbourne when it got a request to assist in the search. Cnns Andrew Stevens is in perth, australia. A hub of this new search. So, andrew, aerial searches ended at nightfall but those efforts face big challenges. Wild weather, strong currents and the fact these satellite images are already four days old. Tell us about that. Thats right. At this hour, its the weather thats proven the biggest problem, carol. Weve just had the third of the four search planes landing here at this Australian Air force base behind me. And our cameraman was on that flight. He said that the weather wasnt too bad but they werent over the search area for too long. They did drop a couple of buoys and came back. That gives you an idea how far it is. Its four hours to get there and four hours to get back which doesnt give them a lot of time on the target area. We were getting tweets from one of the planes that landed back here a little earlier and they were saying that the visibility was a big problem. There was rain. It was low cloud. We know that there is a cold front moving in there and these two objects if they are there, behind the cold front. So aircraft are going to have to go through that. Its not going to be an easy task. I mean, this was a very, very difficult task in the best of times. This is one of the most remote places in the world. And to get a bearing is very difficult. Just to get there is very difficult. There was warnings from the australian maritime authority. They are the people actually leading the search. And they were saying today, even though this is the best lead they have had, they are still saying it could be days before we get anything further. And certainly, the news coming back from these Long Range Reconnaissance planes, including a p. A. , which is a very sophisticated u. S. Navy plane turning up nothing at this stage. So tomorrow, the search begins anew. The flights will head out there once again. We do know there is a commercial ship in the area. We do know the Australian Navy is sending one of its vessels there. Its going to take another day to get there. We also know the chinese are sending ships as well. This stage, we think its two ships. Thats going to take two or three days to get there. All this time, that those objects, the debris if there is any, moves further away and will become more and more difficult to find. So it sounded good a few hours ago. Sounded promising but were really no further forward since then. Carol . Andrew stevens, thanks so much. With me to talk about this latest clue we have experts and reporters, you name it. But i want to start with tom foreman in washington. Tom, this is roughly 2800 miles from where the plane took off and kuala lumpur. Tell us more about this remote place on our planet. Carol, you recall yesterday we were talking about how this would be the place that produced news of the day if anything did. Not simply because mathematically its where the searchers believe the probability was the greatest to do it but because where they were focussing the most effort. U. S. Officials havent wavered in days in their belief that of these two routes, these two arcs, described by satellite data, the northern route could be ignored more than the southern route. The southern route is where they thought it was possible and doing very careful mathematics, essentially, they narrowed it down to that square you are looking at right there and that is indeed where these images have emerged. Were taking a look at them because this is something thats troubling to a lot of people. Weve been looking at them all night. Talking about this. You know the analysts have. Theres not a whole lot to be told from this. But the data around them, everything that leads to this discovery, that does give us an ability to break down the pros and cons. The first one is credibility. The simple fact that the government of australia came out and said so clearly, were interested in this. This seems to matter. Theyre not going to say that if they dont have some reason to feel theyll look okay with this. They have a reason to do that. But doubt, every guest weve had on since last night said the same thing. You have to have healthy doubt because the other thing is you get Wishful Thinking to a degree. Heres another factor. The size. You hinted at this a minute ago. The size in this case is a pro and a con. This plane is a big plane. About 200 feet across. About 200 feet in length. The bigger of the two pieces is about 78 feet long. Can you get a 78foot piece out of this plane . Absolutely you can. There are plenty of places. But heres the puzzle of that. It came up in the chinese debris when it was spotted. When those images were released. If you have a piece that big from this plane, can it float out here in stormy seas for 12 days . Many people wonder about that. Many of the experts and aviation people say thats a difficult trick to pull off. Seat cushions can float. Life rafts. All sorts of lighter debris can float for a long time. But they are lighter, harder to spot. Big pieces like that could come from the plane, yes. Could sink, yes. Last part, location. Lets talk about location in this case. The location is good as we mentioned. This is where they are looking. But locating it is hard as were already seeing. Four days old and a difficult part of the world. And everybody keeps talking about the pingers. They keep saying lets reach out and listen to the pingers. Lets bring a reality check to this. If you fly in here and think about all this vast amount of ocean here, the range of these pingers in the best conditions may be about two miles. Theres a whole lot more ocean out there and if its at the bottom of the ocean, that limits how far they can go, especially in warm waters. Carol . A little glimmer of hope, but its good to be skeptical because so many factors have come into play. Well talk about all those factors in a bit. We want to focus on the weather. Its 9 00 at night in australia. The search for more debris has ended. And not just because its nighttime but because this area is known as the roaring 40s because its so windy there. Indra petersons is here to tell us why this area is so dangerous. First before i touch on that, i want to talk about the weather thats actually been affecting the region specifically, even just today. Very easy to see right now as you look at the satellite picture. This long line of clouds. This is the cold front theyve been having to deal with. Its passed the region where they are looking at potential debris. But notice anyone trying to fly into the region will have to pass through that. Of course, once they get closer, the good news is conditions will be improving as visibility will start to decrease. Heres the concern. A gyre is located in this circular fashion. You can see all this red. You are talking about strong currents and strong winds in the area. You mentioned the roaring 40s. Thats what we talk about. The latitude of 40 degree latitude n 50 degrees latitude could the furious 50s a lot of times. They can take advantage of that. Keep in mind you have strong winds. Thats difficult for flying conditions. It also can produce some rough seas out there. As the cold front has passed now already this morning from the region, winds are starting to die down a little bit. Were talking about 20, 30mileperhour winds. Not out of the question at any point in time you see 40, 50mileperhour winds kick into that area. Winds correlate with those wave heights. They go together. So a lot of times you start to see very strong surf out there. Right now seeing about eightfoot surf. Many times especially farther down to the south you see 20foot waves and you can see those make their way into the area. A lot of white caps this morning. Further south, you can see 40, 50foot waves. The reason we keep saying further south is where some of these boats are coming from. They may have to navigate through rougher waters. Rain that was handering this morning, it looks like the rain is dying down. The system making its way out. You are still having to fly through that rain as you make your way from australia. A lot of people touching on this. Weve been talking about the surface. In that region where they found the aircraft potentially, two to three miles of ocean depth there. Keep in mind, the satellite images are a good four days old so you have to take into account where the potential debris was four days ago. Look at these currents, all these conditions and manipulate where could this have been 13 days ago . Thats the concern and where would that debris now also today moving forward in time. Thats all the things theyll have to factor in. Very difficult situation with very strong winds typically in that region. I think difficult is an understatement. Indra petersons, thanks. Malaysia airlines scheduled to meet with the families of the missing. Atika shubert is inside the briefing room. Well have an update for you next. Ameriprise asked people a simple question can you keep your lifestyle in retirement . I dont want to think about the alternative. I dont even know how to answer that. I mean, no one knows how long their money is going to last. I try not to worry, but you worry. What happens when your paychecks stop . 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The latest lead, satellite images two of large objects floating nearly 1500 miles off of australias southwest coast. In one of the most remote areas on the planet. The debris, one large, one smaller, triggering a race by sea and air to get a closer look. It will not be easy to find the debris or anything nels this part of the world because of the sheer size of the area, the weather and so many other factors. With me now cnn aviation correspondent Richard Quest and mary schiavo, former Inspector General for the department of transportation. Richard, a few things to keep in mind here. The satellite images of this debris, four days old. Why are we just seeing them now . Were seeing them now because thats the length of time for them to realize what they had. Remember, australia only was invite invited to in that region. We dont know which country provided them but we know it was the Australian Geographic Society or the agio as its called, that actually did the work of looking at those pictures and determining that there was, in the words of the Prime Minister, credible reasons to believe that they might be from mh370. And thats the issue here, carol. The reason we have all sort of grabbed on to this isnt just some false hope and a wing and a prayer. Its because last night, the australian Prime Minister, even though he caveated his comments, he did go before the australian house of representatives. He did describe them as credible and he did say theyve been identified. In other words, they were sure they had something. They just werent sure what it was. And then we had a very long News Conference later on from the australian search authorities in which they basically said this is the best lead we have. And thats why so many assets were not only being redeployed from the north to the south but also everything was being poured into going to that part, going to where the debris had been and trying to see to find out what it was. Mary, are there other images . Can they zoom in closer . Well, i think they have. You know, you look its like google earth. If you pay for the service you get clearer images. If you get the freebie, they arent as clear. And they have, i think, most likely clearer images. And we ran into that in the 9 11 investigation, too. They would purposely degrade them so the general public are more appropriately, the criminal element out there wont know how good their images really are. So i suspect they are better than what we see, what theyve released. So mary, do you think that this is a credible lead . I do. And they gave us a hint. Im always looking for little clues in what they are saying. In the one of the press conferences in the wee hours of the morning they also said they credited the ntsb. They said the u. S. Ntsb had also given them some of these paths and looked at the data. So its pretty clear there were a lot of heads put together on this, on the path. Looking at where they should look on the data. So i think there have been a lot of minds put together and there is hope, by the way, some of this can still be hoping because boeing on these planes takes great pains and we want them to, hopefully they did on this one and all planes, they seal all the seams even in the composite wing and they seal them up inside and they its not calk. Its lots better than calk. They should be pretty buoyant. Now for how long on composite pieces, i doint know. But theres a chance that wing is still floating. Everybody around the newsroom is talking about this endlessly. We came to the consensus that investigators must know something theyre not sharing. Is that a reasonable thing to guess . I think its reasonable to say that they know more than theyre letting on. But they dont know whether this is or is not. You have to remember, if they knew that this was definitively part of the plane, they would announce it. There are 239 families or so who are desperate, griefstricken. Theres an entire Aviation Industry that is waiting to know whether theres a problem with a plane. And the world is watching. So i think they may not be telling us every little nook and cranny of what they know. Simply because that will be improper and the rules wont allow it anyway. But i think that theyve got a im sure they are keeping Something Back for themselves. But ultimately, i dont believe that they are keeping, quote, the secret. I dont think theres a fact out there that is so definitive that theyre not revealing. Mary if the plane did, indeed, fly this way, where was it on its way to . The south pole . Theres nothing out there. What does that tell you . Well, to me, it says they were that the plane, the mystery here is the lack of motive. The lack of what was going on in the cockpit. But i think it tells us the plane flew until it ran out of fuel and crashed into the ocean. Why it was doing that, because the pilots were dead or because hijackers took over and the plot went horribly afoul, who knows. But i think, to me it seems very clear the plane was flying on until the fuel was exhausted. And its, of course, really sad news for the families, but, you know, thats after thailand said it did not enter their airspace and it was clear they didnt go north, this was the only route left and there was nothing to be heading to except antarctica where you cant land in march. Mary schiavo, Richard Quest, thank you so much. Still to come if this is debris from that missing plane, how did it get there . Well check in with Martin Savidge from inside that flight simulator. Hi, martin. Hi, mitchell. Morning, carol. 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But the families of passengers on board flight 370, the wait for answers has been agonizing. Some are holding out hope their loved ones will be found alive. Others say theyre prepare forward the worst. Malaysia airlines is supposed to meet with the families at a hotel in kuala lumpur. Atika shub cert at that hotel. She joins us now by phone. Has the meeting taken place yet, atika. My understanding is the meeting has just started. Weve seen a number of families arriving and officials and grief counselors. The meeting is under way. Now we dont know whats happening inside. Its closed to the press. I have spoken to some of the family members before going in. And, you know, i think theres a lot of caution about this news thats come out. One father told me while hes thankful to malaysian and Australian Forces for the search, he still holds out hope that everybody on board is alive, but he said he will accept, you know, whatever the fate is. If this is in fact, the plane. Others say they dont want to make any decisions. They want to know the facts. So well have to see what happens as a result of this meeting. Its interesting to note theres quite a bit of security here as well as an ambulance. A lot of concern about the wellbeing of a lot of these families that have been waiting now for more than a week, carol. After yesterday, when that poor mother broke down and screamed out her agony. I suppose thats why malaysian officials felt this need to hold this special conference just with the families today. Yeah, its interesting because Malaysian Airlines has been saying theyve been keeping the families, you know, abreast of all the information and theyve had daily briefings, but the family members ive spoken to say theyve not had daily briefings, and they have to chase Malaysian Airlines officials to get more information. This is the real first big meeting weve had. I have no doubt this will be brought up with Airline Officials and families that want more information. Theres not enough clarity. What do you know about whats been found off the coast of australia. Atika shubert, well check back with you. Those new satellite images show what could be debris from the missing jetliner. Clues are trying to get a closer look at two objects floating more than 1400 miles off australias coast along the southern search corridor. The question now, how could flight 370 have ended up there . Its in a remote area on earth. Martin savidge and pilot mitchell casano join me from inside that flight simulator. If it flew on for seven hours after its last communication, could it have made it to this debris field . Thats the beauty of this simulator. What weve decided to do and for the experiment for your program is to essentially set everything up as 370 was, were sitting on the ground on the runway in kuala lumpur and take off in just a moment. Fuel will be the real consideration. We believe they were loaded with seven hours of fuel. Let me show you something here on the dash board. I can call up the fuel load. Its listed here on this tv screen and these are the wing tanks. Its got, well, nearly 20,000 kilos of fuel in each wing tank and nearly 30,000 in the center tank. Our total fuel is nearly 70,000 kilos. Thats not anywhere near as full of fuel as this plane could possibly be. But its a good start. We think thats what we were at. So if you would, please, take us off, mitchell. And the whole idea here, carol, is to, again, this aircraft is simulating everything we know about flight 370, including, of course, they took off at night and were originally headed to beijing. Thats what they fueled for. They would have given themselves extra fuel. Every pilot would do that to build in for any potential delay. If they had extra fuel on board. Nowhere near as full as they could be. We will take off. Well climb out and then well make the turn and head south. Well be approximating the route. Once were in the air, the thing about the simulator, we can make it do whatever we want. But we always have to take off. Its part of just synchronizing everything with the computer. Hence why we started on the ground. Once in the air, well be able to fast forward and take you to the area where the debris is believed to have been found and find out, okay, is it feasible . Could the plane with that fuel load have made it . I have to warn you, a lot of things interfere. Weather, winds, all of that. Altitude could impact the fuel range. Its a test. Well see how far we can go. The next time you come back to us, we should be in the area. I have a question for mitchell before you go. Mitchell, from a pilots perspective, that area is so remote. Theres nothing out there. As a pilot, what goes through your mind when you think about that . I think a lot about running out of gas. Theres such few options. As long range as this aircraft is its a long way to any suitable airport out there. There are some small islands, you know, that you could possibly land at, but that would really be pushing the limits of the airplane. So i would really be worried about running out of gas. Just a sense of how far this plane can go, it can go 16 to 18 hours if it were full. It was not. Incredible range. Yeah, i think that from kuala lumpur to this place where this debris was found, again, we dont know if its debris from the plane, but its about 2800 miles. As the plane would begin running out of fuel, alarms would probably sound. What would that be like . What would it be like if the plane was running out of fuel . First of all, you have every indicator. Youd see fuel consumption here. Thats carefully monitored. Youd be well aware in advance. This isnt like something is going to sneak up. There isnt a fuel meter that says met e. You are always calculating as is the computer. It will alert you. Youd see well in advance you are running out of gas. The airplane will Start Talking to you that the fuel is low once it gets below a certain point. And you just run out of gas you run out of gas. Eventually, physics takes over. You will run out of gas. When you do, depending on the altitude you still have a great deal of distance this aircraft can cover, even without engines running. It becomes a glider at that point. These wings are designed for very high amount of left. So youll be able to glide hundreds of miles with no engines but eventually, sooner or later, you are going to hit. And then what i dont know. I dont even want to ask this next question because i dont want that image in my mind. Ill let you go. Well check back with you. Martin savidge and mitchell, thank you. Possible debris found in the indian ocean providing what Officials Say is a credible lead in the search for flight 370. Experts say its far from a sure thing. In Australian Defense minister says the search is now, quote in one of the most isolated parts of the world. In an area known for high winds and rough seas. Joining me now, former tsa administrator and secret Service Director john mcgaw and tom fuentes. Welcome, gentlemen. Good morning, carol. So, john, one of the pieces of this debris is 79 feet long. Thats roughly the size of a tractor trailer. An australian maritime expert says theres all kinds of debris in this area because things fall overboard all the time. What do you think . Well, it seems fairly large to me to fall over. And so hopefully, you know, as an investigator you are thinking, this may be something that will help us. Its very, very large and pretty hard to fall over. It would have to be put over by somebody on another ship or something. So you are saying its likely not a tractor trailer and its likely, may possibly be something valuable in the search for this plane . Well, i think that thats a very good possibility in my mind. Im going to ask you a rather grisly question. As the plane hit the water, wouldnt it crash into many smaller parts . Would there be a part so large left over . Well if it hit the water at an angle, from my understanding, if it hit from an angle, it would its like hitting concrete, but it would still penetrate way down. But the initial impact would be very, very hard. And so a piece of Something Like a wing, if they are saying its that big, could very well either stay on the surface or come back up very quickly. And the reason they think it might be a wing is because the wing of a jetliner like that is about 78 feet long. Tom, the australian Prime Minister says, too, this is a good lead and they are throwing all the resources they have into this. But it does beg the question, did they know, do investigators know something we dont . Thats a very good question, carol. I watched the coverage last night and coverage of that press conference not press conference but the release of his statement to his parliament. And i thought that, you know, and then the coverage afterward. I thought it was very optimistic that we have almost probability that thats part of the plane and it led to the probability that it was going to be a matter of going out there and grabbing those pieces and then determining if they were from the plane and then trying to determine where they may have floated from to identify the original crash area. Then you hear later that its a fourdayold photograph and with those turbulent waters, it could have it could be very difficult to locate under the best of conditions and then the distance that the planes have to fly 1500 miles can only stay on search or on station for a shorter period of time before they have to return 1500 miles. And then the limitations of daylight and weather. So i thought what i heard this morning sounded from probability to possibly and much less optimistic. Ill put it that way. Im just trying to look at this realistically and not be emotional in this, which we all are to some extent and say, are we going to even find these pieces . Right. And, john, we understand that a norwegian ship is in the area. Of course, its nighttime now in australia so theres really nothing on board that ship they can do. Its at least in the area but still has to find the debris. It hasnt found the actual debris. Lets say it lucks out and does. Thats still they still have to get it out of the water some way and that cant be easy. I dont think wed expect them to get it thoift water. I think wed expect them to help us with the identification in terms, is it pieces of the aircraft . And then we would or the investigators, whichever country would be the closest, would get a ship out there that has a deck on it that then the helicopters could fly on and off of and you could do some kind of retrieval work at that point and better identification. Youll have to have a sea deck out there. You cant fly these planes until they are almost out of fuel and then have to turn around and go back because you only have a few minutes to search. Weve got to get a deck out there that has helicopters and that on it that can go for quite a few miles and so it would be a sea board airport. And then lets say even after they do all of that and they determine that this debris came from this plane, now they have to search underneath the water. The ocean in that part of the world is very, very deep, tom. And, you know, i heard they have to get these like special robot submarines to go underneath the ocean to search down, down deep. And they move very slowly. Like four Miles Per Hour. Sort of like a lawn mower. That just seems impossible to me. And cnn had an individual on yesterday morning that talked about, theres only about 30 of those robotic submersibles in the whole world. And that if you had 20 of them searching, you know, how long it would take. He stated he could only search an area the size of manhattan in new york city. So you would have to really narrow down where that plane went in the water for that to even be, you know, a close possibility. Having one of those find that. Now if they actually recover this debris and determine that it came from the plane, then theyll be trying to have all of the experts of ocean waves and currents and climate and wind, surface wind and try to backtrack where it actually may have entered the water. But by time they get to that point, could be 13, 14, 15 days from the date of the from the night of the incident, the night the plane disappeared. So if you find the pieces, where were those pieces two weeks ago. Right. Tom fuentes, john magaw, thanks very much. Still to come, for some, the disappearance of flight 370 has drawn parallels to egypt air flight 990. That jetliner crashed into the Atlantic Ocean in 1999 killing everyone on board. Ill talk to a man who lost his loved ones aboard that flight. Its a growing trend in business do more with less with less energy. Hp is helping ups do just that. Soon, the worlds most intelligent servers, designed by hp, will give ups over twice the performance, using forty percent less energy. Multiply that across over a thousand locations, and theyll provide the same benefit to the environment as over 60,000 trees. Thats a trend we can all get behind. Unfortunately, with the weather conditions as you experienced on the flight, unable to locate any wreckage or debris but other aircraft are continuing to search up until last light tonight. For the families of those missing on flight 370, the wait is, of course, agonizing. Fruitless searches and links that go nowhere. Now their best search at a possible clue hidden under the dark of night for at least nine more hours. Very few know the desperation of this waiting game but one of them is james brokaw. He lost his father and step mother when egypt air flight 990 crashed in 1999. It took investigators days to find the plane off the coast of nantucket. The ntsb said the copilot switched off the auto pilot and deliberately crashed the plane into the Atlantic Ocean. As that plane went down, the copilot repeated, i rely on god more than 11 times. James brokaw joins me now. Good morning. Good morning. Pleased to be with you. Thank you for joining us. We really appreciate it. The investigation into what happened to egypt air flight 990 in your mind remains unresolved. Why . I think its quite firmly resolved. The statement by the copilot that you mentioned is, in my mind, a red herring. Theres nothing on the cockpit voice recorder that indicts al batouti. Whats not on there any mayday call, and clearing of altitudes below the aircraft. Any response to the captains question of what happened. And together with the data inputs make it quite clear that the airplane was deliberately destroyed and that the relief first officer is the culprit. But thats not the reason im here today. I want to say quite directly to anybody who has lost someone aboard malaysian 370 that i and we, the families of egypt air 990, are right there with you. We know exactly what its like to lose someone into thin air and to wait for any confirmation whatsoever of their demise. Those families are facing what many of us faced, which is immediate and devastating economic as well as emotional consequences. So that means, for us, that meant that many people were forced to sell their homes and the homes of their parents who they lost aboard the airplane immediately. There were some people who were stayathome moms in scottsdale, arizona, who needed to relocate immediately to egypt because their husband, their sole means of support was aboard the airplane. So the reason that im here today is to speak as directly as i can to the malaysian government and to its insurers that you need to take care of your families. You need to do so by immediate and substantial across you cannot afford to wait for the families to come to you. So far, describe how you think the malaysian government has handled the families. Well theyve had the only information i have about that is the state of the investigation which has been from outward appearances quite disordered and rather chaotic and understandably so. Its extremely its an extremely unusual and, at this point, confusing situation. The thing for everybody to keep in mind and again im speaking directly to those families affected, its easy to go at the airline. The thing to keep in mind is that they want desperately to do the right thing. The way for the airline to recover its image is to con speckously and prominently help the families. I really appreciate you joining me this morning. Its a pleasure to be with you. Still to come in the newsroom, the partner of flight 370 phillip wood compares the investigators to a bunch of teenage girls. She is angry. Well be right back. Ive quit for 75 days. 15 days, but not in a row. For the first time, you can use nicorette even if you slip up, so you can reach your goal. Now, quit on your own terms with nicorette or nicoderm cq. Until youre sure you do. Bartender thanks, captain obvious. Co which is what makes using the hotels. Com mobile app so useful. I can book a nearby hotel room from wherever i am. Or, i could not book a hotel room and put my cellphone back into my pocket as if nothing happened. Hotels. Com. I dont need it right now. To cover up flaws and make skin look pretty. 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Phillip wood is among those on board. His partner appeared on new day a short time ago and talked about the discovery of possible debris. It i strikes me as just one more lead that may or may not come true, so its enough to make us anxious again after a couple days of quiet. You know, im cautiously pessimistic its not a piece of the plane. I keep hoping somebody took this flight for a reason which means they would have preserved it and tried to hide it some place, take it some place. If this debris is part of that plane, then it kind of dashes that Wishful Thinking to pieces. I really hope its not a part of the plane. You know, if it is, then at least we can go down another path of deciding that maybe we need to start preparing for another scenario instead. I dont necessarily think the people investigating the situation are particularly caring about what the families feel like. They care about finding the plane. Thats probably as it should be. They should keep their focus there. The way the National Investigators have been working together is kind of like a bunch of teenage girls running around a locker room all trying not to show each other what theyve got, right . Its a false sense of modesty. If we would have had a little more disclosure and a little more open cooperation earlier in the cycle, we might be at a completely different place now. 13 days. Thats a long time to have something so big just disappear. She says her intuition tells her wood and the other passengers are a live. Well be right back. Roses are red. Im glad im with you. This weekend away, was long overdue. Be a weekender at hotels like conrad and hilton. Book now at hiltonweekends. Com. Happening now in the newsroom. Is this it . We now have a credible lead. Brand new satellite images taken more than a thousand miles off the coast of australia showing debris floating on the surface. Its the best lead we have now. A group of 18 ships scouring the area, aircraft taking to the skies, storms at sea hampering efforts. Theyre dealing with bigger waves, tough to see things, ships move more slowly. Females finishing up a press conference. Should a miracle be required thats what were hoping for. Malaysia manages expectations. For the families around the world, the piece of information we want most, they wanted most, is the information we just dont have. The location of mh 370. Youre live in the cnn newsroom. This is cnn breaking news. Good morning im carol costello. Thank you for joining me. Want to go to Perth Australia to talk about the debris possibly from the missing plane. Two pieces of debris. One 79 feet long, the other 16 feet long. Those two pieces of debris, 14 miles apart. These were taken by satellite. These were taken by satellite four days ago. Ships down on the ocean have not found any sign of that debris yet. We understand the norwegian ship is in the area. Of course its night fall in australia. The search for debris has now ended. Earlier today, a cnn photographer went up with the royal Australian Air force on a plane so he could watch them search for this debris. This difficult, difficult search. Andrew stephens is on the phone now to take us through what youre seeing on your screen now. This is on board that plane. Tell us more andrew. Reporter thats right carol. This is footage taken from the cameraman here. He went up on the hercules aircraft. Their task was to drop buoys into the zone. Their role is to get data on the movement of currents and the temperature of the water to give an idea of where the sea, southern part of the indian ocean is moving, how its moving. Whether they can trace the area where the debris was given the currents and movements of the sea, trace it back now 14 days to where that plane, where the plane may have gone down. We cant overemphasize, this is still not a fact. It is the australians that said its the best lead theyve got. The Prime Minister said this is new, incredible information coming to them about the possibility of these objects being linked to the plane. It took four days to actually release these images because there was so much analysis done on these objects. Now the footage youve seen there taken from inside the cockpit also the crew there lowering the back ramp throwing the buoys in. Theyll start transmitting information back and hopefully give investigators a better idea of where this plane may have gone down. Its almost working backwards. It will give an idea of where the movement of the sea would have taken those objects. Night has fallen here. The search is off for the day. There are four long range sur y surveillance planes in action including a us p 8. They all came back empty handed. Not getting any reports of success at all. In fact weve got a tweet from the Australian Aircraft saying bad visibility, rain, low clouds really hampered the search today which means theyll be going back up tomorrow and will continue to go up until they can get some sort of lock on what the objects were. Its important to get a visual id on what these are and more important for those to be picked up at sea by vessels. At the moment, theres one vessel in the area. Theres 18 vessels now from 26 countries involved in the search. They are in the southern corridor which were talking about. Theyre not yet at the scene. This is at the far end, southern end of that area were looking at. Going to take them some time to get there. Theres an australian warship heading out to sea now. It will take another day, they say, before it gets to that zone as well. At the moment, the vessel are converging. The search will resume at first light. Since we have the announcement from the australian Prime Minister, there hasnt been further developments to back up what the objects may have been. Andrew, stand by. Want to go to tom foreman to give an idea of where the satellite spotted the debris. Its one of the most remote areas on the planet. Tom, take us through that. Listen to what andrew said about the ships. You have a race on the high seas happening now. In addition to ships theres nearly 30 aircraft to join the four that went out and searched and didnt find anything to join that cargo ship also out in that area thats trying to get close and see if theres anything to find. All of these assets are brought into the area. Yet, those are not yet finding anything. This is the big question. The big ark out there and whether they can get to this target area and do they find anything . In the process, can they answer these basic questions . Carol, we broke it down in a simple way. You have to look at the question of credibility first. You have Officials Saying theres a credibility, credible reason to believe in. Theres also doubt that remains. That doubt is important. So the credibility matters. They wouldnt say it if they didnt have four days of analysis. The fact it took four days pushes the idea of doubt. Theres the issue of size. This does make a big difference here. If youre talking about on the pro side and con side. This is a big plane. 200 feet across, 200 feet in length. The tail alone is about 60 feet. So theres the possibility of getting a piece about 78 feet long out of this, but its hard to do. Whether or not that could float, thats a different question. Lastly lets talk about the issue of location in all of this. Location also matters. This is generally in the right location, but locating it as we know already is going to be a challenge. Beyond that, i want to talk about one other thing. When you talk about currents and Everything Else there. Remember if this scenario plays out and this were the plane, youre not talking about something that broke up in flight in theory. The youre talking about something that ran out of fuel and hit the water. If both pieces were related, how are they 14 miles apart from each other. Thats unusual current work to separate them that far even over this period of time. Well see if they plunge into the waters and see if this raises answers. This seems like an impossible search. Lets show the pictures of the Australian Air force up in the hightech plane desperately looking for anything they can find on the ground. Well keep pictures up while i talk to indra petersons. Planes cant stay up in the air for a long period of time in part because of weather in this part of the world. Really rough here indra. The difference in the region is pretty far. We had the storm system move through. Problems with visibility and high ocean currents. We were able to pull map as. We have a large search zone everybody was looking for yesterday. A lot of people were asking how did we hone in on the smaller area . We looked at remember at 2 15 in the morning was 2 last tithe time we had contact with the plane. What we actually looked at, the bottom portion of the ark. The connection of the last radar connection with the ping of the satellite. If you look at the fuel time left. If the plane went straight down and took an hour for each time period moving an hour forward, you came to the last point. Thats where they would have ran out of fuel. Thats where they came to the region or assuming how they honed down on that search area. One of the things people have been talking about is something called a gyre. A lot of people say, is the potential here this could be debris, a lot of trash potentially in that region as the trade winds pick up a lot of stuff from ships and move in that region. One of the things i want to point out. It can take 50 years from one plastic bottle to go from the beaches to this circulation. It breaks up to small particles like a thin film at the top of the ocean. When you talk about large particles, it could have to be cargo that fell off a ship or Something Like the tsunami wreckage that piled up. Unless Something Like that happened, it wouldnt be typical to see a piece of debris that large. Were talking about 75 feet. Thats the concern. Of course something that large. If it was a plane, would it have sunk . These are the things we talk about. Two and a half miles deep ocean depth. Thats a huge concern. Currents in the region, we keep talking about the roaring 40s. What is that . Latitude between 40 and 50 degrees we start to get strong westerly winds. Thats the reason sailors like to take advantage of currents in that reejgion. That means hair wind and high surf as well. Stronger the wind, the stronger the high surf will be as well. This morning even white caps in the region further south. Waves as high as 20 and 30 feet. Ships trying to mike their way in. They are dealing with the cold front. Keep in mind that cold front is moving out. Thats good news. Anyone going to that search area, theyre still dealing with the cold front. Theyre flying through it. You can see on your computer screen or tv, winds have calmed down since the winds have left. Since youre so close to the area with strong wind, theyre still dealing with it in the next 48 hours. Things are calming do you think. Indra, thanks. I want to explain what we saw in the video. You saw the crew a board the Royal Air Force plane throwing something overboard. Long tubular things are buoys. Theyre marking where theyve already looked so theyll know that. It looked strange. Wanted to explain that. Welcome jim, cnn analyst. Thank you. So these pieces of debris described as 79 feet long, the other 16 feet long. Theyre 14 miles apart. What do you think of that . Is is that consistent about what youd find if an airliner crashed into the sea . There are no rules, and theres no history we can point to to determine just how large pieces of debris will be. Those are consistent with the size of the airplane. Unlike the information we got some time ago about another satellite view the pieces were far too large and wrong shape and Everything Else. There is a possibility that we have really found part of the debris field. I want to underline the word possibility. Im really trying desperately to make sure none of us gets our hopes up and gets our eyes squarely focused on something that doesnt pan out. Right. Because again, these satellite images are four days old. No one has found the actual debris. We dont know what it is at this point. No, we dont. There are all kinds of things it could be. Im hopeful this is something from the airplane. As you know im sure, if they did find that it was, thats good and bad. Its good that we would finally get to a place we could begin to backtrack a little bit and find the main debris field and maybe get a hold of the boxes that tell us what happened on that airplane. Its bad in that, one, it might be misleading information again for those with loved ones on that airplane as well as narrowing down the fact that well the air hit the water and everyone perished. What theyre going through is unreal. Just unreal. Yeah. Im with you. I dont know how to describe it. Jim tillman, thanks so much. Ive got to take a break. Still to come in the newsroom, if this is debris, how did hit get there . Martin is inside the flight simulator. Hi martin. Hey carol. Weve moved magically in time thanks to the simulator, four and a half hours ahead. Were approaching the area where the degree was spotted. Well tell you what we found with this aircraft coming up. Check it out. I cant believe your mom has a mom cave today i have new campbells chunky spicy chicken quesadilla soup. 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Last hour you said of course from kuala lumpur to this debris area, where do things stand now . Well, let me just tell you. This is based upon raw data a carol. We should point out, theres a lot of factors that play in here. We were told the fuel load was seven hours. We dont know specifics on that. Thats guest mating. There were no waypoints listed specifically to get them down here. We do not know whether condition at the time of the flight that night. Head winds. All that can affect the fuel path. We are roughly 1,000 miles to the southwest of perth. Let me show you on the rough map. Kuala lumpur is up here. Weve flown four and a half hours. Were roughly here. Perth is over here. Generally the area of where debris was found. Whats interesting though, doing math in our heads and doing figuring, mitchell and i believe, we have how much fuel left . How much time left . Two and a half hours. Two hours 45 minutes or somewhere around there. In other words that we could continue and again, this is all very loose, for another how much further . Another 1,500 miles or so. We could go a lot further to a remote region at least based on information we have. This raises the question, if the plane didnt go that far, why did it come down . Was it out of fuel or Something Else . We dont have the answers to that. These are gentle directions the simulation points you to. Raises more questions unfortunately. So, would the plane be on auto pilot . Is this a known flight path or would someone actually have to be flying physically in this direction . The plane could be on auto pilot, what we call heading mode. There doesnt have to be a flight plan for the flight to be on automatic flight. You could point in a direction at 360 degrees at altitude and speed and the airplane would just fly that. You dont actually need a path. It can still be on auto pilot. What was toautopilot when the plane runs out of fuel . Auto pilot will disengage. It will keep gliding until it hits. It doesnt go to a nose dive . No. It will start to even without intervention without the pilot touching the control . Right. It will gently slide down to the water. A horrible thought. Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Martin savidge and mitchell. Still to come in the newsroom, Malaysia Airlines meeting with the families of the missing. Well check back when we come back. Marge you know, theres a more enjoyable way to get your fiber. Try phillips fiber good gummies. Theyre delicious, and a good source of fiber to help support regularity. Wife mmmm husband these are good marge the tasty side of fiber. From phillips. How we looking here, charlie . All sectors are looking great. Excellent. Hey, what are you guys doing . Oh, well were double checking the distributed Antenna System. So when all you fans post to instagram, there will be more network to handle it. So, uh you guys hiring . 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I can tell you after speaking with family member, theres a lot of frustration and anger understandably. At the same time, especially with this news of debris being found, one father i spoke to said hes hoping for the best, but that if this is the plane, he would accept whatever they find. So i think family members are taking it all in different ways. We dont know whats said inside. We are hoping that a somebody will come out and make a statement. They said a spokesperson for the families will come outside. Malaysian officials want to give a full briefing and keep them up to date with the latest findings on the debris. I talked to one man who lost his stepmother and his father on an egypt airliner that went down. He talked about the financial cost to these families. He said he wanted to say to the government of malaysia, help these people economically. Soon theyre going to begin hurting in that sense. Have you heard anything about that . Theres been no discussion of compensation yet. I think part of the reason for that is we simply dont know what happened to this plane. If for example it is a confirmed part of the plane, that may be a part of the discussion. For many families here, theyre still hoping in some sense that my racko that the passengers have survived somewhere. I spoke to a father of one passenger, 36yearold it engineer that supports his own young family, two Young Children and a wife but also his parents and sister that just graduate add. Its that kind of a breadwinner of the family. He was the first graduate out of college in generations that its going to be so hard to help to compensate. They were really earning for the entire family. Well check back. Thanks so much. Still to come in the newsroom, families of France Flight 447 that crashed in the Pacific Ocean five years ago are reaching out to families. Well tell you why theyre calling for an independent investigation and how that could work. I reckon a storms a brewin. Reckon so. 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[ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. [ mm. ] great taste. [ tapping ] sounds good. Campbells healthy request. Mm mm good. ® its been 13 days since flight 370 with the 239 on board have gone missing. For some, part of that delay is due to the perceived incompetence of the malaysian government. One group is encouraging the the families of the missing to ban together and order an independent investigation. In an open letter on facebook, the family ocean of air France Flight 447 that crashed off the coast of brazil in 2009 writes in part, quote, your as families should feel entitled to approach your Respective National governments to put pressure on the malaysian military and civil authorities. We also encourage you to demand a neutral investigation to be carried out by compartment experts of your choice in order to safeguard full transparency. Joining me now, daniel rose. Are the families right . Should these families demand individual investigation . Absolutely. Its one of my pet peeves. As soon as our ntsb is, and theyre very good in disaster cases, one of the biggest issues i have is that families dont have a say or representative involved in the process. At a minimum it imp dalicates t pa transparency. If you hire experts with extreme knowledge in unique areas that can further the investigation and do that in a productive and meaningful way, then whats the reason not to allow that to happen . Its something that s really troubling. How old wow families go about doing that though . Its very difficult. Its difficult in the the u. S. I can only imagine its tenfold as difficult in malaysia where theyre dealing with their first major disaster. But every time were involved in a aviation accident that leads to a litigation, we effectively conduct our own independent investigation. We go out and hire our edown experts that have practiced in the field that all ntsb experts are practicing in and have excelled in those fields and now pinnacle in those fields of knowledge. They contribute very meaningfully to investigation and often times find things that are overlooked by the governmental investigation. It happens frequently. It sounds like it would cost a lot of money. Well, it does. Im not saying you go back and reinvent the whole wheel. Obviously you dont go out and look necessarily for more wreckage or anything to that extent, but when that information and evidence is collected and available, its very important for another set of eyes to take a fresh look at it and really see if something was missed in the official pass through or approach with a different view about, well what if this happened . This piece of evidence may mean Something Else. Thats where the value comes in. Yeah, its expensive, but its money well spent getting to the truth and getting the answers to the families that they deserve. Daniel rose, thanks for your insight. I appreciate it. My pleasure. Still to come from the newsroom, investigators and search crews are shifting their foe focus to the indian ocean. How likely is it that this debris is the real thing . Our experts weigh in next. Co ive always found you dont know you need a hotel room until youre sure you do. Bartender thanks, captain obvious. Co which is what makes using the hotels. Com mobile app so useful. I can book a nearby hotel room from wherever i am. Or, i could not book a hotel room and put my cellphone back into my pocket as if nothing happened. Hotels. Com. I dont need it right now. But when we start worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on the things that matter today. At axa, we offer advice and help you break down your insurance goals into small, manageable steps. Because when you plan for tomorrow, it helps you live for today. Can we help you take a small step . For advice, retirement, and life insurance, connect with axa. New satellite images are giving hope to crews searching for flight 370. Two pieces of debris spotted 1400 miles from the coast. A norwegian ship in the area ready to resume the search when day breaks. Its nighttime in australia now. Lets bring in our experts. Our former fbi assistant director and author rosenburg, aviation lawyer and pilot. Welcome to both of you. Tom, i want to start with you. Satellite images of the debris four days old and just now, just yesterday they started looking for them. Australian Officials Say theyre hopeful. It seems like a long shot. I agree carol. It seems like quite a long shot especially because not only the four days old, but when they fly out to the site to actually use the specialized equipment to search, they can only stay a few number of hours and of course theyre limited by the daylight hours. But even during daylight, they can only stay so long and have to return 1,500 miles back to perth, australia. Still author, officials mentioned ntsb saying it had offered suggestions about where to look on this data a. Australias Prime Minister went before the parliament and announced some hopeful signs had been spotted by satellite. That gives some credence to this report. Thats absolutely true. Heres my take on this. At this point, this is the best clue that we have at this moment in time. This clue being what it is, is not should be taken with a grain of salt. Cautious optimism for some, cautious pessimism from others. You have an object that was 80 feet long. If you compare to 777, wingspan is a few hundred feet. Could it be a section of the wing . Maybe. What about the horizontal stabilizers . Theyre 60 to 70 feet long. I dont think this object could be that because the object is bigger. In addition, this particular area is known as a area in the sea where debris, containers, a lot of stuff seems to coalesce. In terms of whether this is a piece of wreckage, its hard to say. Could something be floating . Theres a lot of composite in the 777. The stabilizers uses composite. Honey comb in between it, airtight, it floats. If you look at the vertical stabilizer floating in the water. It could be this, maybe not. At this point, with airlines having come out looked at it, dont see anything. I know the weather is bad. Im somewhat pessimistic this is a piece of the wreckage. If thats the case, these poor families are back to square one as the to get answers and clues as to whats going on. I know. Doesnt a lot of this depend, tom, on how exactly the plane crashed into the water, if it did . Thats true carol. It depends on all those factors. Are there a million pieces floating on the ocean spread around the whole area by currents and wind . Or just maybe a couple of large chunks, current and wind sank. Theres a number of questions that come up. Were not going to know until, if and until its found, where they can do the detailed forensic work on the pieces of the aircraft. Again, i completely agree with author. I lean toward being negative about the pieces then i would being positive that thats it, we found the airplane. They seem so sure about the general area. Its a large general area. I realized that. Because theyve sent everything but the kitchen sink there to look. Theyve got to know something we dont know. Isnt that possible arthur . Yeah, it absolutely is. The best piece of evidence we have right now is the satellite photography. When the Satellite Photos they showed to public are probably not the precision and clarity that theyre actually looking at. They do that for military reasons for secrets. If we assume that the photographs from the satellite weve all heard our satellites could see the number on a license plate from space. You think the satellites could have beamed in and given a crisper picture. When you take that information with the flight path of the airplane that we know. We know the last point from military radar at 2 15. If we say they took the southern corridor. If you take the ping from the satellite and look at the range from the airplane, when you put it all together, theyre kind of in the right area to be looking. But its a lot of assumptions. Its a difficult analysis. The airplanes havent found anything yet. Ships are on the way and obviously will loiter in the area and have a better chance of seeing something. I still think its a long shot for finding the plane. Yeah. Lets talk about the theory theyre working under. Im going to ask you this because you are a pilot. Lets say the plane was flying along until it ran out of fuel. What would happen . Yeah, sure. Well, you know first off, you look at how much fuel is on board. From what ive heard, were all working with eight hours of fuel on board. The plane was actually in the peninsula area, flew east, flew back, burned off about two hours of fuel. That leaves six hours left. If the plane is going 500 Miles Per Hour on average which it probably wasnt because we know there were altitude excursions. That gives a range of 3,000 miles which puts you in this area. What happens next . Lets assume the plane ran out of fuel. Well, if the plane made a controlled descent which it may have, it could have made Something Like a landing in the water in which the plane may not have broken into a million pieces. If the plane was nosed over in a final effort of suicide like Something Like egyptair, we look at a plane scattered all over the place. The debris field could be hundreds of miles long. We really dont know. I come back to these poor families and they really want answers. They really havent been given any which is why these people really do need legal representation in some form to guide them. I know. Im with you. I know malaysian authorities are holding a conference with them. They have them in a hotel room, all families together. Its been going on more than an hour. We dont know what malaysian authorities are telling them. We have someone covering that for us. Im with you arthur. Tom and arthur, thank you. Thank you. The southern indian ocean is one of the remote areas on the planet. Why is the search for 370 focused there . Well dive deeper to that when we come back. How much money do you think youll need when you retire . Then we gave each person a ribbon to show how many years that amount might last. I was trying to, like, pull it a little further. [ woman ] got me to 70 years old. Im going to have to rethink this thing. 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Michelle, our cnn White House Correspondent is there to tell us more. What do we expect the president to say . It would seem likely this would be announcement of expansion of sanctions. The white house has been looking at that possibility, been talking about it. They said basically this would come in coming days unless russia did something to indicate it was going to reverse course in crimea which seems extremely unlikely to impossible or if it changed the situation in a positive way that western nations have been calling for. Because to our knowledge, nothing has changed on the russian crimean swaeituation. We dont have confirmation of the announcement. At the same time the announcement was indicated here, we heard from David Cameron announcing he was going to expand the sanctions very similar to the sanctions that the president of the United States announced this week. He was going to expand the number of people affected by the asset freezes and visa bans. Because the u. S. Activity has been really in close concert with what the eu has done in terms of reaction to russia, even though the u. S. Was first to impose sanctions, because the uk is announcing expansion today, seems the u. S. Could be doing the same. Well hear directly from president obama before he bounds the plane bound for florida on another topic we know hell speak specifically about ukraine. After he delivers that statement, well hear more detail in the background briefing by senior white house officials. Michelle, thanks so much. When the president begins speaking, well carry that for you live. Ill be right back. Good job still running in the morning . Yeah. Getting your vegetables every day . When i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] couldve had a v8. Two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. Two full servings of vegetables. Return on investment wall isnt a street. Isnt the only return im looking forward to. 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They diverted the search to the vicinity where they believe the satellite images show what may be the degree from the plane. Youre looking at images now. Theyre being cautious, but what make this is imagery more credible than the chinese satellite imagery we talked about days ago is it essentially places the debris in the same general area where ntsb data says the plane may have made the last known satellite connection. That makes it credible. The size of the debris makes it credib credible. Its 78 feet. That could be a part of the 777 carol. Well keep on. Rene marsh, thanks. Thanks for joining me today. I want to give it over to wolf blitzer in washington. Carol, thanks very much. Were a waiting the president of the United States. Well have more on the mystery surrounding the malaysian airliner coming up. Now youre looking at live pictures from the south lawn of the white house. The president will walk out to marine one that will fly the president to joint base andrews outside washington d. C. , getting rod to fly to orlando, florida for a series of events including political fundraising. In the meantime, the president will make what the white house is describing the statement on the situation in ukraine. U. S. Deeply concerned about whats going on now. The official decision from russia from the parliament in russia, the vote nearly unanimouslily to annex crimea and make it part of russia and in effect take it from the sovereign nation of ukraine. Michelle is standing by. This was a late edition to the president s schedule. The president clearly wants to make a statement now. I assume hell tighten sanctions on russia. It seems this will be an expansion of sanctions we saw monday. This week the asset freezes and travel bans on certain individuals. We know the white house is working on this, talking about expanding in the near term. Right after the sanctions that we mentioned were imposed this week, there was a long meeting to discuss how they could be furthered. Just as this announcement by the president was announced that we knew he was going to be speaking in a few minutes, we heard the Prime Minister, David Cameron announce he was going to expand the similar sanctions. What the eu and u. S. Have done so far is extremely similar. The eu had 21 people on its list where as the u. S. Had 11. Theyve been closely coordinated. Now that we see the uk expanding sanctions, it seems likely at least that president barack obama is going to announce something similar if not the same