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0 shutdown dims hope for retail. they are worried about the economy too. the paper says a big concern is that a prolonged government shutdown could severely hurt the economy and necessarily consumer spending and, therefore, annual growth. and we got another front page from the independent and the uk that i'll mention saying it's about the budget standoff and says china's fears over the political deadlock, highlighted there. can you see that telling president obama to get a grip and mentions world markets are already jittery following the lack of progress on capitol hill. that will do it for me. thanks for with being today. "cnn newsroom" with wolf blitzer starts right now. see you tomorrow. i'm wolf blitzer reporting from washington. president obama getting ready to go before the cameras and the microphones about an hour from. the president earlier called the house speaker john boehner but it wasn't exactly the conversation that boehner has been speaking. here is what the speaker said before he spoke to the president. >> americans expect us to work out our differences. but refuse to go negotiate is an untenable position and, frankly, by refusing to negotiate, harry reid and the president are putting our country on a pretty dangerous path. listen. there has never been a president in our history that did not negotiate over the debt limit. never. >> so what did the president say during that phone conversation? our senior white house correspondent jim atocosta is standing by at the white house. what is the white house saying about the phone call, jim? >> reporter: it's interesting to note, wolf, that the president's phone call to house speaker john boehner came shortly after the remarks from the house speaker earlier this morning. white house officials saying the president essentially told the speaker we are where we are right now, that the president is not going to negotiate larger issues like the budget or health care until this threat of a government shutdown and a debt default have been resolved. so that is where things stand right now. really no progress versus, you know, day seven, date eight is not that much different, wolf, at this point, but the president is going to be taking questions in the briefing room at the white house in less than an hour or now or at least scheduled to do so. and it is important to note that this is basically the president's first press conference of this shutdown and so he'll be taking questions and one of those questions will likely be what house speaker john boehner said earlier this morning, that he just wants to sit down, that he just wants to negotiate, that there has never been a president who hasn't negotiated over a debt ceiling. i imagine that those will be some of the questions that this president faces but he is also going to be faced, i think, wolf, with other questions about the dote ceiling itself. what exactly might happen to this country if we go into default. the administration has not clearly laid that out. the treasury secretary jack lew has been warning it is risky and dangerous for the nation to go over into default after october 17th but things have not been laid out specifically as to what might happen and there's also the issue, wolf, of this health care exchanges online, it has been experiencing some pretty severe glitches and delays the last several days of people who have been going to that website and trying to sign up for health insurance. i imagine those are the questions the president will be facing an hour from now. >> the president has a free week, open schedule all of this week because he was originally supposed to be in asia for the economic cooperation summit there so nothing was really scheduled until he canceled that entire asian trip. he is going to take reporterses questions and he is doing this in the briefing room, right? >> that's right. it is important to note he did do an interview with cnbc last week and one with the a.p. went to the taylor sandwich shop by the white house on friday and made that dramatic walk out of the grounds of the white house through the gates and sort of taking questions from reporters as he was leaving and coming back in. he took some questions from reporters inside the sandwich shop but nothing like a formal i guess, press conference, if you want to call it that, but we should point out the white house in its guidance to reporters say the president delivers a statement and takes questions so this may not be a full-blown news conference that goes 45 minutes to an hour. we will have to wait and see what the president allows and what he wants to do during this event and it's about an hour from now. he has not really taken questions from just the press in general so it will be interesting to see what comes his way. >> i'm sure it will be lively and good and we will have live coverage on cnn. jim, don't go too far away. it's a central question in the budget stalemate. are there enough votes in the house of representatives to pass legislation to fund the government with no strings attached? the answer is yes and no. a cnn survey shows there are 218 house members who say they would support a bill with no special provisions. that is the so-called clean cr or continuing resolution. that is one more than the minimum need to do pass the measure 217. the tally includes all 200 democrats and 18 republicans but the republicans are not willing, at least so far, to force speaker john boehner to bring that kind of continuing resolution to the house floor. let's bring in our chief congressional correspondents dana bash who is watching what is going on. it's a dilemma right now. no obama care and nothing else, just to get the government back working, why wouldn't they be in favor of procedural vote that would go around the speaker and let this vote come up? a couple of reasons. some of the reasons who say they are willing to do this, buck their party, would be willing to do it if the bill was in front of them. it's one thing to vote for something that they believe is right and it's another thing to really actively work to under mine the leadership of the house and john boehner and what they have to do is work hand in glove with democrats to defy john boehner and house republicans and for more of them the conservative base of the party that would go nuts and find primary challenges for some of those who wouldn't have primary challengers from within. the other reason is timing. so-called discharge petition which is the mechanism they have to use in the house to get around this would take a long time and probably wouldn't happen until the end of october which would be after i guess we hope they work out a deal in another way. >> the debt ceiling has been to be resolved by october 17 athen people say combine everything and get it all resolved by october 17th and the president said he is not going to negotiate on those issues and the speaker saying he won't accept them without negotiation, some concessions on the part of the administration. looks like a stalemate is at hand right now. in the meantime, the senate is going forward. the democratic majority in the senate with legislation to raise unconditionally the debt ceiling for a year, right? >> that's right. we will see the first procedural vote on that in the senate as soon as this week. that is a key thing to watch, because, obviously, democrats have the majority in the senate but as we have seen with so many votes before, they don't have a filibuster proof majority and don't have the 60 votes needed to break a filibuster. they say i want to make sure that the debt ceiling is raised and vote with the democrats there. it doesn't look like at this point the 60 votes are there but what the bill would be is to extend the debt ceiling, raise it through the next election so we don't have to go through this until after november 2014. >> seems like we go through this every few months. it's getting tired. right now, gloria borger is with us as well. our chief political analyst. do you see any movement at all, any openings on the part of the speaker or the part of the president? >> no. they had the phone call and they both came out saying no negotiation. i think there are lots of members looking for some kind of way to get out of this so it doesn't look like it was hatched by the president and it doesn't look like it was hatched by the speaker but rather that it was hatched by members of congress. there's talk of a supercommittee. we have been there before, by the way, right? at this point, i don't think see any progress. i mean, the thing that is working in terms of getting some kind of deal is that the clock is ticking and that enough members of congress understand how catastrophic it would be if they did not raise the debt ceiling. so they have to try and figure out a new definition for the word negotiate. they have to figure out a way to get around it and, you know, i'm hopeful, but i'm not overall optimistic. let me put it that way. >> not willing to negotiate. the speaker says you must negotiate so maybe they are willing to talk. >> they don't want to have a conversation. >> what is wrong with a conversation some have a conversation. >> but the question is can they talk through surrogate? in effect, that is what a supercommittee might be is a bunch of surrogates. can you take it out of the hands of the principles in some way, shape, or form and let other people do it? i don't know if that is acceptable to democrats, dana. >> the house republicans are going to vote today on another idea that gloria is talking about, to say let's put together a group of negotiators. they are not calling it a supercommittee because that is that baggage that failed. bad karma. put together a group of negotiators and have them work on issues relating to government funding and issues relating to the debt and deficit. the problem is still the fundamental difference between the two which is they seem to want to have that group of negotiators work something out before they pass raising the debt ceiling, before they open the government. >> a lot of people are paying attention to -- there seems to be a thunder of silence right now as far as the vice president of the united states. joe biden, he usually, when there is is a crisis, he served in the senate for decades. he knows all of the players. he helped resolve the last major fiscal cliff crisis and all of that. where is joe biden right now? >> i have been reporting on this and a story about this earlier today in politico. the point is this. joe biden has always been somebody who sort of came in and did the 11th hour deal when it came to the debt ceiling in 2011 and when it came to the fiscal cliff of last year. it's no secret as dana knows all too as well, there are lots of democrats, most prominent among them, harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate, who thought that the democrats got the short end of the stick in some of these deals so he is not eager to have joe biden back in this. but i've spoken with people close to joe biden, but say what is joe biden supposed to do? there is no negotiation going on. this is a very different time. this fight is predominantly in the house, by the way, and not in the senate. and, by the way, mitch mcconnoll, with whom joe biden has worked in the past, has a tough re-election fight. he is not a leader in trying to get a deal worked out in all this. you're shaking your head because he is nervous about it. what i was told, though, that might have gotten harry reid a little bit upset is biden and mcconnell at the last principals meeting last week when the leads met with the president, biden and mcconnell walked out together and had a bit of a conversation together. i was told it was nothing meaningful and nothing to talk about. it was sort of hi, how are you doing kind of conversation and no negotiations took place so a lot of hard feelings, i would say. >> the meeting at the white house when the president met? i was told only five people were in there and biden was the sixth person? >> i believe he was. >> yes. i'm also told that biden is every meeting at the white house in which they are discussing these fiscal cliffs. >> that makes sense to me. >> there are hard feelings on matters. >> a lot of democrats, you walk the halls in congress and i totally agree with gloria and talk to loyal democrats who love joe biden who will tell you privately they think they got really gypped in a lot of the deals that we have seen over the past two years, which is why we are where we are and they feel they are at a disadvantage for that reason. >> one more point that a reid person made to me about why this is different this time. reid's caucus is totally united this time. he is not worried about his red state democrats going off to a reservation. he has a united caucus right now, so you don't need somebody to come in and broker. a, no brokering to be had and, b, democrats are in the same place on this. >> i'm going to have jim acosta, our white house correspondent, check to see was exactly in that meeting last week with the president. we know harry reid was there. >> i was told they talked informally in that meeting. >> if the vice president was not in that meeting when the president met with the democratic and republican leaders, the four leader of the house and senate, that significant if joe biden was not in that meeting but we will check and find out if he was there. that is one phone jim can make like that and we can get the quick answer. stand by. we are standing by for the president of the united states. president obama will hold a news conference at 2:00 p.m. eastern, about 45 minutes or so from now. he'll take reporters' questions and won't just go in the briefing room and make a statement as he often does. we will have live coverage. stay with us. the house speaker john boehner says he wants to talk to the president, have a conversation with the president but one republican lawmaker says boehner faces rebellion if he compromises. republican congressman paul brown of georgia is up on capitol hill and standing by live and we will discuss with him after this. over 20 million drivers are insured with geico. so get a free rate quote today. i love it! how much do you love it? 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