Parlay . Thats his message. It has power. Any time youre the center ring and everybody is wailing on you, i think someone said earlier its about memorable lines. Klobuchar a memorable line. Im con fulzed steyer arguing the problem is he doesnt have enough experience. He never Held Public Office in his life. I think that there is a lot of jaundice about washington and there is a hunger for change. And i think theres a hunger for unity as we have discussed here. Hes trying to tap into that. Well see how far it goes. One thing about unity its not unity unless you have africanAmerican People supporting you, latino people. Those tests are yet to come. He may do well in New Hampshire, and then the big test will come. Can he parlay the momentum into a second look in places like South Carolina and nevada. I think the question when you look at every poll of democrats and who can beat trump. You look at Pete Buttigieg and he does have a big brain and terrific on the stump and a great job in the debate. The question is what 38 yearold and the mayor of south baend and ran for other office and didnt win. And how are you going to beat, convince me to you can beat donald trump. And i think that argument still has to be closed. It is. But losing begets losing and winning begets winning. Obama was four years out of the Illinois State senate when he ran for president. Over the course he was a senator. Over the course of the campaign. Many of the same arguments were made about him. He was a senator. That was an advantage. A tall and elegant guy. With a bar tone voice. All that stuck. And but, what really helped him was winning. Winning. And dealing with all of the pressure in a campaign. Campaigns are crucibles and if you can navigate the campaign the longer the more people say wait a second and judge you based on what they see. Thats the bet that buttigieg is making. Will it work, i dont know. This campaign will make buttigieg a better candidate. I dont know if hell be the nominee. I would be happy to see in the in the house. I think that maybe this is his first run. And the next time we see him around hes going to have that experience under his belt that we know we want him to have. A well weather of the state of play within the party is tom steyer. Because you can say, does mr. Steyer really have a chance of being a nominee but staying until the race. Hes selffunded. He took a will the lot of oppor. He got more time speaking than any other debate. We have him right now in New Hampshire. Im checking the talk time. He did. You were aggressive, intense, you got in there. Other debates theres times you waited to be asked. You didnt this type. Howd you feel . I think were in a few state of the campaign. What i was saying was this isnt a policy debate anymore about the best healthcare policy. Everybody is million times better than trump. You cant watch what happened this week in the United States of america and think the democrat is going to walts into the white house. We have to beat trump. Hes rung on the economy. Running on the economy. Were better on all issues. You kept bringing up the economy. And how you win the economy. We were talking about this with andrew yang. You can find all kind of issues with the economy. The headlines unemployment is 3 . Theres a will the of strength in the economy. The market is up. Unemployment is low but you cant live on the wages. The economy is growing but money is going to rich people and big corporations. He talks about the fact that wages are up, if you look at why theyre up shs the answer is they raised the minimum wage in big blue states around the country. Hes taking credit for something hes opposed. If you want to talk about the stock market. 85 but up is up. People feel better. How does that help you get votes . Mr. Trump is fighting against the American People. Hes passed the biggest tax gift over 1 trillion to rich people and big corporations. Said hes going to it would balance the budget. Instead it blew out the budget to 1 trillion. He said after the election ill balance the budget and take away medicare and social security. If this is he good for the American People . Hes opposed to the American People. Hes trade war is a disaster. Hes incompetent. Cruel and a liar. We were as we were getting ready to go on listening he mentioned a moment i have here. Which is you dissing buttigieg for not having experience. You dont have any experience in government. You have experience in business. But not government. We need people with experience thats why im worried about mayor pete. Go toe to toe and take him down on the debate stage or well lose. Why do you have more experience in that forum than he does . I know something about economics. I couldnt have built a business that i did from scratch. If i didnt understand job creation, growth and prosperity. Trump is running on the economy. Hes running on the economy. If we cant make the argument that hes a liar and a fraud, which he is, then we cant win. What im saying is right now anyone who is democrat who doesnt realize he can be reelected after this is not paying attention. He can be. Whoever the democrat is has to be able to go after him on the economy and win. Whoever the democrat is this is a turn out election. There are a will the of people here talking about persuading republicans to change their minds. Im not can i follow up on that. What about this week do you think puts donald trump in a seat . He has the highest totality of it. The simple thing is he has his highest approval rating. The poll numbers. Not impeachment or anything else. All the polls are up a bit. Gallop is up a lot. State of the union address. And things that happened this week. Its true. So we have to recognize that it isnt a question of the democrats into the white house. We have to win. It has to be a question are democrats going to turn out. If you look at 2018, a lot of people like to say we won in 2018 because he nominated moderate democrats. I dont believe it. I look and say in 2014, 35 Million People voted democratic. We had a terrible year. In 2018 the next year, 59 Million People voted democratic. Up by 24 Million People over 35. Its a turn out. If we show up we win. If we dont, we lose. The republicans always show up. Its not a question about convincing a Million People or two Million People. To change their mind. Its convincing tens of millions of americans who agree with us its worth it to show up at the polls. And were telling the truth and change things and sweep away the republican plan. All right. Thank you, tom steyer. All right. Back to you, mr. Cuomo. Interesting. Tom steyer kind of a bell weather about where we are in the party. 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We have to draw the line here. To be the kind of president , human being, who would seek to turn someone against his own son and weaponize a son against his own father. Is an unbelievably dishonorable thing that is one more example of why we as a party have to be completely united in doing whatever it takes to make sure that this president doesnt get a second term. I think it was lucky that they came to a mayor pete first. I have a feeling you would gotten a version of that. That was a powerful answer. That was sanders in 2016. Saying i dont care about emails. Lets talk about the debate. It was a version of john mccain telling that woman stop, i dont agree with you. A powerful moment. Everybody on stage agrees with him. Nobody will feed into that for purposes of a democratic primary. What he did was make it so personal and so much about family and hes had really good moments lately. Talking his iowa victory lap talking personally and about kids that dont family. The fact he was able to take it there and make it so human which is joe bidens calling card. I thought it was it was edged in buttigieg. South bend the city of 110,000 people. It was a beautiful moment. The thing about him is he does have that magical quality. That was poetry. It didnt seem rehearsed. Im sure it was. It felt authentic. The tightness in his jaw. He let it sink in. This is really despicable behavior to split up a family in that way. It was a beautiful moment. He had those moments throughout the night where you can see, sometimes you feel like what is this kid doing on stage . Why is he there . He shouldnt be there hes too young. Hees in high school. And he does Something Like that. Im glad hes in the race and the white house. You can see bidens face as he was talking. He was almost taken aback by what he said. And he thanked him after ward or said something about it. It was something i think spoke to every family. Weaponizing a son against a father. The nature of politics as course as they are it stands out more when an opponent stands on the stage approximate defends another person on the stanl with whom theyre competing. It is something that people respond positively too. To. Were in a causic environment. That was a good moment for him. There was a lot of love going on. Bernie got a hug from biden. In the middle of the debate. I dont know what was going on. They were hugging each other. Hes likable. Hilary said that thats where he came from. Where have you been . They were hugging. I thought this is wonderful. One of the things that are keys to the debate are what gets replayed the next day and gets seen. Buttigieg, watching the second time was much more powerful. The first time were taking notes and trying to Pay Attention to who is win skpg losing. Well see that tomorrow. Well see the vindman, Rush Limbaugh line tomorrow. The commander in chief. The klobuchar with the good got ya. That will digest what happened. And well see this on sunday. The interesting thin how this gets covered because people go in with a predisposition of the front runners will get attacked. And they did. So the question is whether those clips will take precedent. Do they come forward to illustrate the fact these were the front runners and under attack. That could if people see the debate that way, it was a less good debate for sanders and buttigieg. Than it was for people watching the debate. Thats the challenge Elizabeth Warren is facing. The best moments she added to issues. Gun violence prevention answer talking about not only suicide by gun by domestic violence. Which doesnt usually get brought up in that context. Her answer about reproductive freedom and the Cross Section with race. And how row needs to be the ceiling and the floor not the ceiling. It was those answers that really stood out to me. And those probably arent going to get the they dont resonate the same way. For example what are they trying to do . Unify the party. Thats a problem. You dont have a polarized party. You have lots of different groups. We talked about the former Vice President biden and this moment that he had with a woman where his empathy cape out. She was talking about her son a stutterer and talking about decency when people have cancer and get back to. That was big. He also arguably unified people in the crowd the most by definition in the following moment. Vindman got thrown outfrooue white house today, walked out. He should be pinning a medal on vindman not Rush Limbaugh. We should all stand up and give vindman a show of how much we support him. Stand up and clap for vindman. Who we are, thats who reare. Not what trump is. Powerful moment. Imagine if they didnt get up. That would have been such a terrible he had some confidence. That had the earmarks that was something planned. And it was effective. It also he just getting the whole thing laying it out. Is not his hes not smooth in doing it. And so it could have been a more effective moment than it was. Thats the issue. The staff says it was all too high a bar . Like saying the medal line . I dont think so. If you practice the line and the line is he should be we should be pinning a medal on vindman not Rush Limbaugh. Thats a if you take the reporting they say it wasnt planned. Maybe the stand up part. If you look over the history of the debates the most effective lines are practiced. On jfk. Those were practice. He hit on a point had when you try to script joe biden it doesnt work. Its joe biden talking at the town hall. Coming from his heart. Its much more effective. And he kind of stepped on his own line. It was effective. Why are we surprised by this . We have seen joe biden in public life for a decade. He has never been smooth. Making mistakes. We have to take a break. Well figure out this is it now. You cant under estimate i know politics is filled with hype. But im telling you the story changes every week with every result. And that will happen this time too. It will matter even more than it did in iowa. So stay with us and well try to figure out together whats coming our wachlt our way. sensei a live bookkeeper is helping customize quickbooks for me. live bookkeeper okay, youre all set up. sensei thanks that was my business gi, this ones casual. vo get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks. All right. Obviously you win New Hampshire its good. After that, it all depends on who it is. Elizabeth warren, second place means more than if youre klobuchar for her maybe its how she does to biden. What about biden. He said something you rarely hear a candidate say. You rarely hear anybody on the campaign say. Ill tell you what will happen in New Hampshire and it aint good. Listen. I took a hit in iowa. Ill probably take a hit here. Traditionally bernie won by 20 point last time. And usually its a neighboring senators that do well. It doesnt matter whether it its this one or the next. I view the first four encounters. Two primary and caucus as the starting point. Terrible. His staff loved that, im sure. They came out and said well compete here. Look at the volunteers. He has organizers door knocking this weekend. May may have wanted him to say bernie is from a neighboring state. He won last time. I understand that were fighting uphill here. That would have been one thing. Basically saying were taking a hit. Probably overshooting. Line delivery. That we were talking about before. Too honest. Also, they had the bizarre theory. Its the first four states altogether. This is not how elections work. My theory is the fist 17 states are one thing. I can lose the first 15. Thats the bloomberg theory. Which is these little states this is to impress the media and get going for money. I dont need it. Ill compete in the big states and make a difference. When you lose iowa and think youre doing poorly in New Hampshire. Its not about the best one out of the two its the best one out of four. Long haul. I dont think they meant for the candidate to make that. Its one of the things which is he is im sure they talked about it. And in his brain it was lodged in there and came out. But there is a little bit of trick to it. Before you start laughing. Im not laughing. We have seen a very small slice of the Democratic Party and the delegates get elected. He just has to kill it in South Carolina. It falls apart completely. The question does he kill it in South Carolina if he finishes a week weak fourth in New Hampshire. And predicting youre going to bomb out here probably doesnt add to the momentum. Can i say one thing, im sorry. This is what happens here after midnight. The bloomberg, his theory isnt mere ri that im going to compete in the big states. His theory is joe biden is not going to be a factor by the time these states happen. He was betting on bidens failure. Hef stayed out of the race in part because of biden and got in the race when he was at a and betting he its already paid on the first contest that biden is going to under perform and he can step in and sanders will be a step in and be the moderate alternative to sanders. I have no idea whether no one has done what hes doing. No one. And no one spent the money hes spending. And there will be a reckoning where bloomberg who is a formidable person has to step out from behind commercials and interact be the media. With voters. And theyll measure him against the ads and say, is he the wizard of oz . Or real. Surprisingly wishing he had to be on stage tonight. As angry i am they changed the rules after so many candidates couldnt meet them. They made sure he could be in the next one. I was watching tonight thinking he gets to skate by completely unscathed. He gets to tell joe bidens base there might be an alternative but doesnt have to answer questions about his record. Hes not taking hits that candidates are. He gets to maintain whatever veneer through the advertising. Until he has to debate. I might have changed my mind on this. Hes untested. Nobody knows how Mike Bloomberg would be on the stage tonight. Nobody knows. Know has seen him in a town hall. Talking to voters directly on national tv. He benefits from this. Because the particularly the donor class. Democrats are always more in love with the person who hasnt gotten there. And nervous. Doesnt make mistakes. Nobody takes that long in that spot. Theyre freaking out. Because who will be the candidate. Sanders will never win. And theyre freaking out and looking to the bright shiny object. And joe biden himself then comes in tonight to go back to what we were discussing and sets himself up as a loser. I see the train crash that were headed for. You cant imagine a convention where its bernie vs. The billionaire. That is where were headed. And a number of scenarios and it was very hard to even begin to the healing process when it was hilary vs. Bernie. Now you have a billionaire against bernie. And if the billionaire wins i dont know how the party will is that your new york accent . Thats good. All right. Well take a break. Give van a tutorial. He cant sound anything but nice. If youre doing brooklyn well teach him. Well talk about sanders message and how it will play with and against what may come with a bloomberg. If youve been dreaming about tender wildcaught lobster, dig in to butterpoached, fireroasted and shrimp lobster linguini. See . Dreams do come true. Or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home, try lobster, sauteed with crab, jumbo shrimp and more, or maybe youd like to experience the ultimate surf and the ultimate turf. 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We know hell fight for us as president because he always has. Im Bernie Sanders and i approve this message. So you cant talk about state of play in the Democratic Party without talking about Bernie Sanders. He won in iowa. Hell do well this New Hampshire. He has a huge base of people who are giving small dollar donations and that is the crux of the message. He is the pop list answer the hero for the disaffected and the equal opposite to donald trump. Hes his message on display tonight. Unlike some of the folks up here, i dont have 40 billionaires contributing to my campaign. Coming from the pharmaceutical industry, coming from wall street and all the big money interest. What we have is now over 6 million contributions from one and a half Million People averaging 18 a contribution. Okay, so, first thing, the idea of conventional wisdom, how to you put it . High floor, low ceiling. Why . He has the biggest base. Seeing nothing but blue sky in the first two. Hes for the working man and women. He feeds that idea im angry and looks like the guy from net work. That issued the message to yell out the window. Why do we believe theres a ceiling . The question is how pervasive in the message. The how broad is the message. Hes not hes consistently under rated. You saw it again tonight. He was under fire at times. He wasnt particularly skaited. Hes never affected by criticism. Hes never knocked off his feet. His rhetoric is consistent. There is a sort of moral clarity to his message and he seems authentic and speaks in many ways to the same kind of anger about the system that donald trump does. The system thats rigged. Bloomberg has a strategy. We see a moment where theres Bernie Sanders and bloomberg. If anybody has any sense theyll put them next to each other. And you have Bernie Sanders look at bloomberg and he says were both from brooklyn. We dont need money like yours in a party like this. Im sure youre a nice guy. Were friends, youre a billionaire and youre the problem. Whats the counter to that . You have to do it you are i have never seen you not have a strength. What is his answer where the party is like okay, okay, fine, we will accept this answer. What is the answer . Wasnt the klobuchar shes the most effective in dealing with bernie this these debates. Shes no billionaire. But taking healthcare away from 180 Million People. Medicare for all. I dont think anybody looking at trump saying we need the white house to be richer. Klobuchar shes coming at that thing as well. Looking at steyer or bloomberg. Billionaires trying to come in. Theres a Movement Mind sanders. That is largely based on everything bloomberg stands for. Its the theres a saying that every billionaire is a policy failure. Thats been going around the Progressive Community for years. They believe that. Every billionaire happened because bedont have regulations in place to make sure there isnt as much income equality. I understand people who aspire to be billionaires dont like that. Most of us settle for millionaires. There would be a very strong populous base who would object. Its the selffinancing. This is the issue. Citizens united. This party says Citizens United was decided in the wrong way and you have to get big money out of the politic. Does the party say unless its your own . Anybody can buy their way into the presidency. This is an issue that hasnt been taken up with steyer. Because he hasnt done well enough yet. I think theres an inconsistency in the Democratic Party on this issue. Maybe bloomberg can succeed. I have no idea. I believe that sanders is not going to be the only person raising that. I think we make a mistake already gaming out bloomberg vs. Bernie. Why he has a low ceiling because what he bernie. The democratic socialism doesnt represent where most of the Democratic Party is. He represents his ceiling is about 30 . Unless he tries to moderate it in some way. Thats not bernie. I respect him for saying every day the same thing. No matter where he is. The same thing. Many matter the audience. It doesnt represent the Democratic Party a a whole. When you look at the numbers is a center left than a far left party. Lets do this. Get in another break. Well question the advancing the analysis too far to bring in bloomberg. The counter analysis will be okay youre right, twitter is not reality. And this the further left aspect of the Democratic Party is a minority and theres a big majority to be had who gets it. Could be it be bloomberg. If not whos best position. Well discuss next. Were making it an even better deal. Now you can get two lines for only 55. That includes unlimited talk, text and data. With no annual service contracts. It also includes talk, text and data when traveling in mexico and canada. So if youre 55 and up, you can now get two lines for only 55. Because at tmobile, we have a plan designed just for you. 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Grandparents went to college for 4 a semester. And they want the same thing. Why call yourselves socialist. We want what you had. The idea that is some socialist revolution. Its not of the kind that that we heard about in the 70s. The label does harm. When the policies are pretty reasonable. Look, to be fair, in the 70s sanders he said to me in a town hall, i said that to him. He said when did i say that . I said you said it in the 70s. He said what were you saying in the 70s . And i said googoo, gaga. He said look, my ideas have progressed and his big hit is, what did we do for the corporation whens they tanked the Housing Market . What do we do for them . Like i said, i think he has underestimated, if he were the nominee of the Democratic Party, there would be tradeoffs, constituencies that the Democratic Party is counting on including this burgeoning suburban vote where he would not do as well as many of the other democratic candidates. And whether he would pick up some of those White Working Class voters and excite enough young people who werent going to vote to come out to make up for what was lost, you know, thats the equation. And well see if we get there. But the thing about, youre right. That what hes basically, he has a Progressive Agenda that is labeled, that hes labeled as democratic. He has labeled it. Biden was right. And he is unrelenting on that and he calls it, he talks, he calls it a revolution. And he says, im a democratic socialist. So you cant blame people for taking him at his word. For the older generation, that means castro and that sort of thing, its very alarming for latino communities, latinas. Thats very alarming because of south america. For a lot of people under the age of 40, they dont remember that. Theyre thinking scandinavia. You kind of need people over 40 as well. He got people, if the entrance polls mean anything. He did as poorly with the people over 65 as biden did with people under 29. Socialism means, i think that what he would have to overcome as an optic. It means tons and tons of Government Spending and government control of things that america is anathema to america. Its funny how bernies ideas have fundamentally shamed the the contractic, that it has shaped the base. I cant claim to know bernies mind but i would imagine that he would rather be running on the ideas than running on the label. And once he became the nominee, it is going to be about the label. Trump is already using it in the state of the union speech. Hell call any of them that. Thats how powerful that label is. The question is, is Bernie Sanders a democrat . Is democrat a, is Bernie Sanders a democratic socialist . What would he do . You can paint that picture if youre donald trump any was you want. You can talk about the 70 tax rate. And you can scare people about it. The thing is, trump will call this party a socialist party no matter what it does. The crazy thing is the label is unpopular, every one of the positions that hes taking is very popular. I think thats not exactly true. Medicare for all is not a popular position. Hold on, hold on. Actually bring down the numbers. When you explain it is when it falls away. When you take away your choice on private insurance, it goes from 64 to among democrats, one polled at 29 . Not among the whole population but among democrats. And the thing that i think we should be a little sanguine about on bernie is, revolutions generally dont stall. And this revolution has kind of stalled. You look at the turnout in iowa. And he didnt, the revolution didnt bring out people. It brought out less people. If you look at his fundraising numbers. He raised significantly less in january this time than did he last time. But there are so many candidates. It is his people. I think if he honestly believes hes leading a revolution, that will turn off as many voters as it turns on. Probably more. I will say this on the issues. We were talking about it earlier. The impact is, who would have ever thought that the public option would become the moderate view for the democrats . And thats really, that is significant and that is a contribution. But like moses, i dont think hes going to get across the sea. Why not . I think he is leading us issuewise to things. Moses did okay, by the way. He wound up over the cliff. Yeah. He got across the water. It was the cliff. One of the things that we should mention though is when you say, when we say, bernie did significantly better last time. He was in a binary race with hillary clinton. So he was the sort of alternative to her. I think were getting a purer sense of what his base is now in a divided field. And warren matters with bernies base and there is certain lay segment behind bernie. 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