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And a murder still on the run. A massive manhunt for that killer in pennsylvania is entering day 12 where he is realistically could be right now. And in morocco, where he could be for 120 years and the rescuers are racing to find survivors in the rubble. And facetoface that could have the eyes of the world, and where kim jongun could be right now, and what this could mean for russia and ukraine. Im kate bolduan with sara sidner and john berman. This is cnn news central. All right. Tot pennsylvania and dramatic developments in the search for the escaped convicted killer who is a step ahead of those chasing him, and all of the authorities. Danelo cavalcante was seen thursday, and by friday he had stolen a van from a deairy and then had tried to make contact with two former acquaintances. He was spotted on a ring camera. On sunday morning, the police found the van he had abandoned that had run out of gas more than 20 miles from where the authorities had been focusing the Search Efforts and he had changed the appearance. He shaved beard and cut the hair and wearing different clothing. Danny freeman is joining us from chester county, pennsylvania. A lot the unpack here, and looking very different from the person who initially escaped from jail. Certainly looking like a very different person, and frankly, this is an incredibly busy weekend when it is coming to this particular manhunt and investigation, and frankly, it is one where there were a number of setbacks when it is coming to bringing cavalcante back into custody, but to understand why, you have to go back to friday and saturday, because a few miles from where we are at the command post, that is where the bulk of the perimeter had been for the multiple days prior to this weekend. And think about it, this is the largest amount of Law Enforcement presence that we have seen friday going into saturday. Troopers were searching cars and trunks all in that area, and that is the environment that cavalcante was able to escape. This is what we learned yesterday. Sunday, Pennsylvania State police told us that he was able to slip through that perimeter likely on saturday, and then as you mentioned, he was able to steal a van from a nearby dairy farm, and able to do that, because the keys were left inside of that van. He then drove 20 mile fos phoenixville, pennsylvania area to the north where he was caught on camera trying to enlist the help of an old associate of his, and the associate did not help him, and turned over the ring Camera Footage of cavalcante to the authorities where we saw this new image, clean shaven, and wearing a greenish or yellowish hoodie and then the police discovered the van, and it was abandoned and cavalcante is nowhere to be found. Sara, listen to sound that we have with the former roommate of cavalcante, and listen to how he describes the feeling as the manhunt continues. I had no idea that he could do Something Like this. He was someone super shy, and really quiet. He would drink his beers on the weekend and barbeque. I hope he can be caught so i can sleep and lead my normal life and everybody can feel safe, and he has to pay for what he did. There you go, even in that case, still a lot of fear. The state police say that they wish that he had gotten out of that perimeter and no perimeter is going to be 100 , but sara, we are on day 12 of to manhunt, and there are multiple sightings across chester county, but we have learned a Press Conference to get an update from the Pennsylvania State Police Coming up at 2 00, banged to you. Danny, freema freeman, the 1 of this major manhunt. Thank you for your reporting. John. And we are joined by john miller, chief Law Enforcement correspondent. And now, tell us about this, as we will hear from the police at 2 00 p. M. Well, you have woodland and houses separated by great distances, and he has exploited that, but there is no solid line of cops in a giant square. They are covering roads, and looking at edges. But slipping that perimeter is a game of patience for him. He is doing what we expect him to do, and he is a fugitive on the run literally for his life, and they are doing what they can do with the resources they have. Now, we have a fugitive, a cleanshaven fugitive who is able to get cleaned up, steal a car, dump it, been in the houses of associates, and this is what you expect him the act, but how can Law Enforcement use this to nail the guy . That is the interesting question, because the game that we are used to playing is the urban and suburban grids, and people are calling in the tips in real time, but this is a very different environment. The gamechanger for him was stealing the truck, because it allowed him to get as, allowed him to get distance, and in fact, allowed him to get distance until it ran out of gas, and so he has not run out of gas, and the second gamechange ser to find a friend, and he went to the homes of two associates, and he didnt connect, but what we dont know is why he went To Phoenixville is where he is family and Work Associates and people he knew before he went to jail. If he can connect with a person, he has more clothes an appearance change, and hair color, cell phone or vehicle, and that is where the opportunity is, and the focus is less on the box that he got out of, and more on who exists in his universe of who he would reach to. My question was, why not go to the Work Associates before he does. Shouldnt they be reaching to what he knew . Well, dont make assumptions. That is what they do. And they try to reach out to associates and family and explain that right now if we capture him, he is going to jail, and if you are on the other end, you are going with him. That is made plain, and so we dont know whether somebody is helping him or not helping him. But without getting too far into it, there are technical things that they are doing, and other things they are doing to monitor his world and try to shink it. It is a game he is playing, and the stakes are high for him. And the longer he is out, the more desperate he becomes to stay free. That is the problem, kate, if somebody comes between him and freedom, and this is a telling moment. It is good to see you, and thank you for coming in. Thanks. And now, russian president putin has invited north korean president kim jongun is on the way as we are told on the way making a journey in an armored train. We dont know where he might be, but officials are warning that it could be to cut a deal to put more weapons into the hands of russian fighters in ukraine, and the visit the first foreign trip since the pandemic. And cnn diplomatic editor Nic Robertson is joining us now, and can you give us the sense of the implications as the war is dragging on there in russia, and they are limited in things like ammunition . The implications in the war of ukraine are that it can go longer, and putin will have the wherewithal to keep holding the anticipated and in effect right now, the counter offensive, but what is holding the ukrainians back, and the mines in the battlefield, and the Artillery Shelling that they put down on them, and it can be devastating to put the fire down accurately, and what kim jongun offers putin is the ammunition that putin does not have in the armory or munitions 24 7 to get to the battle. The other part of the puzzle is what can jim jkim jongun get te needs to put on the battlefield, because he can deadly give away secrets of Nuclear Submarines or satellites to orbit above the earth, and these are Unintended Consequences of the war in ukr ukraine, and deadly effects down the road, and to say that the longer the war in ukraine also means that the western resolve and the supporters for ukraine need to remain united and follow through and keep supporting ukraine. And we are looking at the pictures in 2019 when they met in vladivostock, and see if that is where it happens again and wait for the outcome. Nic robertson, thank you for your reporting. John . Rescue efforts under way after 2,500 dead and the toll is expected to rise in morocco. And Kevin Mccarthy is facing the biggest test as House Speaker, and one that conservatives are predicting that he might not survive. New mexico suspending some gun laws after tragic deaths and now the state is facing lelegal challenges. 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This just into cnn, state media is saying that morocco teams have reached high into the Atlas Mountains which is a difficult place to reach, and they have also reaped the epicenter there, and the destruction there. The countrys strongest earthquake in 120 years that hit late friday night. This is a map to show you the destruction and how far it reached. The 6. 8 magnitude quake, and the purple area is the epicenter there in the Atlas Mountains and the areas with the yellow there, they felt strong quakes and shakes and just to show how far out this disaster is reaching. Nearly 2,500 people are reported to be dead so far, and nearly that very same number are reported injured. Rescuers are reaching the initial 72hour time frame discussed when it is most likely for survivors to be found amongst the rubble. Joining us to talk about the efforts to bring aid and assistance along the way is ozan who is with doctors without borders. You have a team there in morocco on the ground since saturday, and talk to us about how many people are there on the ground and what it looks like. Thank you, kate. We have more than four teams on the ground in this area since saturday night covering different areas trying to assess the humanitarian needs, and the most acute needs that people need now in the aftermath of the earthquake. It is difficult terrain as you mentioned, and the possibility of the epicenter is in the mountainous area which is harder logistically for the teams to reach the communities in those villages. Also, we know from the reports that those are the most affected areas. Absolutely. Have you, and how are they describing what they are seeing, i dont know, injuries they are seeing, and the level of destruction of infrastructure they are seeing so far . Well, we have different observations in different parts. In marrakech, the situation in terms of damage of the infrastructure of buildings is relatively better than those villages that i was referring to that we can see in marrakech city, most of the buildings are standing or withstanding minor damages and some of the shops and markets are open for people to access basic foods and services. However, as we drive from those cities towards the rural areas in countryside, the Scenery Changes dramatically. What we are seeing there is the collapsed buildings and almost entire villages in some occasions, and destroyed Health Facilities and destroyed Water Pipelines and some other infrastructure item, and this is quite difficult to observe and to experience for the people there. We know that this is also from some other experiences just six months ago when the earthquakes hit turkey and syria, our teams were on the ground, and we know how difficult to go through this experiences, as a victim, but also how difficult it is for the Front Line Responders and the Health Care Workers and the Search And Rescue and aid workers. So, we are aiming to understand the needs as best while acknowledging that this is also not an easy task for our teams and also the other people on the ground who are doing their best to support people. Absolutely. I mean, one of the correspondents on the ground who has covered many wars has described damage that they are looking at as almost akin to after an air strike to what he sees in some of the hardest hit areas, and what type of aid and help are the teams seeing that is most needed right now . I mean, it is across the border of course when entire villages have collapsed, but what are they thinking is going to be needed most . Yeah. One of the challenges with Natural Disasters is that its impact is across the board. It is affecting everybody. It affects everybody severely, and we see the needs are concentrated in the most basic level of water, sanitation and shelter, and we see this in other places now, Es Pshfully The Villages where the shelter is coming up as one of the highest needs. People are sleeping outside and even though the Weather Conditions might be mild or more available in the cities, it is quite rough when it is coming to the mountain villages, especially at night when it is very cold. That is one of the main concerns. Food is a concern however, and there a tremendous fort put together by the communities to provide some food to victims, but also, we see the needs of water, and safe, clean water especially if the portals are cut off from the villages, and also the other services they would normally have, and lastly, quite important and vital is the support on the medical side. Now, i have to reiterate that the support on the ground is also for the government of morocco to provide the services, but the Mental Health is going to bel challenging to overcome. We saw it in the aftermath as well in turkey and syria after the earthquake that you were just mentioning. Ozan, thank you for coming on and thank you for the work that you do with doctors without borders. And tomorrow on capitol hill, looking at the agenda and trying to avoid a possible Government Shutdown and what Speaker Mccarthy is planning to do next. It aint my dads razor, dad. Ay watch it its from gillettelabs. This green bar releases trapped hairs from my face. Gamechanga . While the flexdisc contours to it. So the five blades for the ultimate Gillette Shing experience. The best a man can get is gillettelabs. So many people are overweight now and asking themsels, why cant i lose weight . For most, the reason is in, and they dont even know they have it. 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Well, no plans to avert a Government Shutdown, and despite that, yes, when you cannot find broader agreement on a Spending Bill, the fix is to work with the senate to pass something for a couple of weeks to give you negotiating room, but that is a huge lift for House Speaker Kevin Mccarthy, because he has some on the right flank who are arguing that they wont support a shortterm cr, including chip roy who is a member of the House Freedom caucus, and we spoke with him moments ago, and he said that he does not support a short term cr, because he wants to see the broader changes to border security, and he wants to see significant cuts in spending, and he is promising to do so in the future. So that is just giving you a sense of what Kevin Mccarthy is facing when it is coming to the broader spending fight on capitol hill. This week, the House Of Representatives is going to advance a defense Spending Bill one of 12 Appropriations Bills with the republican support, but even that is going to be, again, and he viavy lift, because aide say there has to be negotiations with the members on the right flank and those in Swing Districts who are going to go forward to pass that one small bill. That is a sense here, john, of the divides between the house and the senate and even within the republican conference. John . And the senate has been doing it in a bipartisan way which in some ways make ps it ways ma it harder for Kevin Mccarthy. And on top of the republicans minds impeachment, and despite the efforts of Kevin Mccarthy, there are louder calls to impeach president joe biden. And john avalon is starting with me this morning and i love it. He is here as senior political analyst, and Anchor John Avalon and cnn political analyst margaret hoover, and you are here together. Delighted to be here. Of course. And the host of firing line and i feel like i am in the crossfire here, but i want to step back to talk about this idea of impeaching President Biden and what is going on here . What are we doing . What is the evidence . What is happening . It is performtive nonsense, and titfortat of the two impeachments of donald trump which were merited of the facts of the case, and it is historic high crimes and misdemeanors and you have to be looking at the precedents of history, and nothing rises to that. They say it is an inquiry and they have the suspicions of the biden funds and fortunes, but the idea to raise it to this is muddying the waters and the partisan distractions, and they dont have the numbers to pass it given that biden won 18 of the seats that they won in the house, but they will do it, because it will play well with the base, but it is a bad precedent. And the party over country . And the House Of Representatives is in hyperpolarized and almost nonfunctioning institution at this point. Frankly, it may not actually be politically advantageous for Kevin Mccarthy if he wants to keep the speakership, because as john points out, it is not going to be playing in the seats that gave him the very, very narrow majority, and so he is holding on by five right now, and how is he going to keep it if he is going to litigate a Hyperpart San Prosecution against the president which is feeling like titfortat for most americans in the middle that he needs to win back. And i want to go through President Bidens swing through asia, and the summit that he said that the u. S. Is more reliable and a better partner for those other countries than china is . That is the advantage of being true. And he was clear that he doesnt want to start a cold war, and the u. S. Cabinet secretary went to china as well, but you are hearing the pushback from nikki haley who has gone after the president saying that the whole thing with the g20 was good for russia and good for china and how so . Its not. Look, nikki haley is carving out a lane for herself. She did brilliantly in the last debate and pulling ahead, and cnn is showing best headtohead against trump, and owning a traditional republican hawkish approach to national security, and she has the credit of the u. N. , but to say that the biden regime is weak against asia is not matching up to the facts, and also not matching up to industrial policy, and this whole swing is to reinforce americas allies in asia and not be steam rolled by the base, but it is not fitting the base. And margaret is like i have to push back. Lets go. And what nikki haley is specifically criticizing is a recent thaw in the biden administrations position toward beijing and beijing officials and we have sent three Cabinet Secretaries and one who was hacked by the Secretary Of State and john kerry to add, and we dont know if xi jinping is going to attend the conference later in the years, and he is ratcheting up his foes and doubling down support for putin, and why would we be bending over and opening up the lines of communication with beijing in a way that they are not responding to. They are taking that as weakness, not as strength. It is bodes a little like Detente Failing in the cold war. I love you, but your husband is losing his mind. No, no, no this is an interesting debate. It is a principled position and well informed position. Being tough and talking is what state craft is about. And working for the chinese is feeling good in the west, but it is not working for xi jinping who is an authoritarian di dictator. They need to keep the lines of communication open, because it is the responsibility. And you do have to talk to get anywhere. And let me go on the tommy tuberville. One senator has stopped 300 military promotion, and nikki haley has disagreed with him, and criticized that, but this what she says when jake tapper pushed her on it. We dont need to be using military families as political pawns. That is a mistake. The military members and families, they sacrifice enough, and they dont need to be a pawn in congress, but look at the political games that are continuing to play. Chuck schumer could still get this done if he went through and listed each member and had Congress Vote on each member. Okay. That would take a heck of a lot of time, and what do you think of that idea that congress would have to go one by one, and talking about 300 people. And jake made a good point that we dont want to empower, but do we, and is it advantageous to empower the u. S. Senate to vote general by general and promotion by promotion and every Single Member of the military and talk about not making military families fodder for politics, and that is one slate vote for promotions by trusting your generals on what they recommend is a much more efficient and much more i suspect better way of doing it. But i think that what she was trying to point out is that the pentagon is forcing Congress Hand in a policy that congress did not get to weigh in on, and this is the funding for travel for abortion policy, and this is a potent issue in the republican primary in which she is running. So i am not so sure that she would promote this position if she werent a primary candidate in a republican field. John, you have something to say . Today is of course, 9 11, and we have seen a high degree of 9 11 amnesia leading, and one of the candidates has been Playing Footsie with the candidates and this is vivek ramaswamy. Yes. And so, going to nikki haley, and it has been more than 20 year and the changes have been stung particularly with rudy, and the lessons that we take as a country we cannot forget and we have to learn the lessons of the mistakes of the past 20 years and the strength in ourselves and not rely on the Terrorist Attacks and Natural Disasters to rally together. Let us not forget that. That is a beautiful lesson, and we shall never forget. Appreciate it. Thank you. Over to you, kate. Coming up, 343 firefighters perished in the 9 11 attacks and now almost the same number of First Responders have died of 9 11related illnesses. And coming up, a heartbreaking reality. That is ahead. Whenever youre hungry, theres a deal on the subway app. Buy one footlong, get one 50 off in the subway app today. Now thats a deal worth celebrating. Man, what are you doing . Purple Mattresses exclusive Gel Flex Grid draws away heat relieves pressure and instantly adapts. Sleep better. Live purple. 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And good morning to you, kate. For so many of to First Responders down at ground zero, they have been watching, waiting to see what has happened to some of their friends, and to some of the family members, seeing them being struck with the post9 11 illnesses, and waiting these people to see if their names would be added to the numbers of people, and that a number, kate, it just continues to grow. I think that we just miss him. He was present in everything that we do. Reporter jim brossie says that not a day has gone by that he is not think the about his father. If you were speaking to him, you were the only person in the world that you were speaking to, and he was as good as they come. His father is a veteran of the new York City Fire department for more than three decades died this past february 3rd after a Long Battle With Stage 4 lung cancer. The doctors gave him months to live after the diagnosis in 2015, and he gave this moving interview to the fdny in 2015. Nothing is impossible, but it has not been done yet. You have to believe that you are going to beat it. If you believe, itll happen. Lieutenant joseph brossie, engine 88, november 23rd, 2023. Reporter his name was added to the wall last week which commemorates firefighters and paramedics and civil support staff who died of the post9 11 support staff which is the largest growing number when 55 name were added. The number of names on the wall n now stands at 343, the number of firefighters that died that day. I fear it is going to continue to grow. He says that his father was at ground zero and continued to work there day in, day out. And so, too, was new York City Firefighter daniel foley who pledged to stay there at the site until his older brother was found. Foley ended up finding his brothers body 11 days later. He continued to help with the Recovery Effort for months. He died from Pancreatic Cancer in 2020. He was 46. He was diagnosed with 9 11 cancer. We talk about the fact that 9 11 not only killed uncle tommy, but 20 years later, killed daddy. The message from the firefighters and the families years after one of the darkest days in u. S. History, First Responders are still suffering and dying as a result of the service. The First Responders are not only living and dying as a result of the loss. Reporter and there were also some brothers there working alongside their father. Are you concerned about your health in terms of the future . I will say that i, i monitor my health very closely. I will not live my life in wor worry. Kate, these First Responders 22 years later want people to remember what they did and that they are continuing to pay the ultimate sacrifice. Kate. Absolutely. And so important to hear about their sacrifice and to hear their stories and to hear from them and their families. Jason, thank you very much for shining a light on that one today. John . That is very important to see. 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This is the correlating effect of that. Look at this. The last time we spent this many billion dollar storms a couple years ago, now four months to go with the line at top, about 67 billion and doesnt count Hurricane Idalia or the droughts out west or hurricane hillary. So its going to go up more than this. And its treasure and blood. The American Red Cross announced theres a blood shortage, its down 25 , people cant donate they way they would if they werent dealing with fires and floods. Its the full menu. You have every disaster, maui fires in the pacific as well. And fema has asked for more money to deal with the damages as well. But another record and theyre always the worst kind of records these days. Looking at all that, it is like we cannot this is going to be the best year, correct . Because you talked about the heat. One of the coolest summers we have had, exactly. So the mind shift has to come in. Heres evidence for those who say if we dont do anything its going to cost more. Meanwhile a clean economy is taking off, over 80 of projects in the United States, solar, battery, wind, nuclear, the future is there if we can grab it. Ends on a good note. Brings doom but ends in but its good news. Thank you for joining us this is cnn news central. Inside politics is up next. Sleep more deeply. And wake up rejuvenated. With purples new mattresses fall asleep 20 faster have less aches and pains and sleep uninterrupted. Right now save up to 900 off mattresses sets during purples labor day sale. Visit purple. Com or a store near you please dont go by harry casey, Richard Raymond finch ping please dont go please dont go please dont go please dont go dont goooooo dont go away please dont go okay everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition for strength and energy. Woo hoo ensure, complete balanced nutrition with 27 vitamins and minerals. 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