Impact the holiday season, but also what hes refused to acknowledge to this point, that the trade war is hurting u. S. Businesses and consumers. So what now . Lets start with the new york stock exchange, julia chatterly, she is there for us. I appreciate you coming on. Explain why the bond market is scaring everyone at this moment . Its a great question, kate. What we have seen in the past is where weve had these kind of warnings signals from the bond market, it can mean a u. S. Recession. In fact, all u. S. Recessions have seen this happen in the bond market, but it doesnt always mean a u. S. Recession is coming. This is key. Stock Market Investors are clearly nervous. Theyre worried about the trade war, theyre worried about the data were seeing, and weve china data weakening, germanys data weakened today, so theres a lot of nervousness. People then buy bonds, because they think its a safe haven, security, but that then results in the warning signal that were seeing right now. So the key here is it may mean a recession. It doesnt always mean a recession, but right now, as you can see, the dow another session lows, people are simply very nervous. What are investors telling you about the timing . You mentioned it just a bit, the timing of this and the president pulling back on tariffs in china. Thats key. Yesterday when we saw the president announce he was going to delay a big chunk of the tariffs, a lot of people said, does this help . Or did the president again a reference to the poker, show all his cards. Hes worried about the consumer and the stock market falling, so hand over a load of leverage to the chinese president in the meantime, the Global Economy is weakening as collateral damage. Trade wars arent easy too win, kate. Exactly. Were seeing that right now. You pose a key question. If this move from the president strengthens, whose hand it actually strengthen, i think thats important. Julia, thank you very much. Joining me for more on this, a former commerce secretary, and of course a former ambassador to china, gary locke. Thank for you being here. My pleasure, kate. Whats your reaction to what julia was laying out . Do you think the country is headed there . There are a lot of signs all across the world that some of the major implies are headed toward a recession. It doesnt mean they will. Thats why its very important that we actually reach a trade deal with klein to try to head off some of these warning signs and some of these danger points. In both sides its to both sides advantage to strike a deal as quickly as possible. It probably will not be as far ranging, not quite the grand bargain, but chinas economic is slowing down, theres troubling signs on the u. S. Economy, and the president is finally acknowledges that this trade war hurts consumers, various economists, including the governments own economist, that the he current tariffs are costing the average American Household anywhere from 800 to 1,000 more per year. The tariffs that were schedule to do go in september 1 would have cost americans even more. Iphones, video consoles, toys, clothing, shoes, you name it, that would have hurt the pocket did not books of americans. Look, no one should be surprised when today or tomorrow the president says again this isnt hurting the u. S. Economy, the u. S. Imply is doing fine, its only hitting china, only in the move hess actually made, it is acknowledges that it is impacting u. S. Businesses and u. S. Consumers. That is for sure. With this announcement yesterday, and glassing some of these tariffs that he promised to impose, hes clearly blinking, on the mounting pressure and finally reacting to the mounting pressure. Do you think this he helps the president and china get any closer to an actual deal with what the president announced . I think it bodes well for more productionive discussions and negotiations. I think the chinese and americans are set to resume their discussions and negotiations in about two weeks. With the slowdown of the chinese economy and the president s own admission that this hurts american consumers, perhaps both sides will be more realistic and more willing to strike a bargain. Dodds a world in which the United States and china just do not reach a trade deal, and this becomes the new normal . That would be very, very problematic. It certainly will impact american consumers, the impact will be even more. It certainly will affect businesses, all passed on to buyers of american products. It also will hurt American Companies that make things using chinese components. It raises the cost of that american good, as they try to compete against other products made by company from other countries, or even as they try to sell this made in america product, which will cost more. They try to sell these all around the world. We have not yet begun to feel the full impact of this trade war, and as a others have said, there are no winners in a trade war. Both sides lose. Its the workers and consumers of both countrieses. Secretary, if you could please hold on. We have some breaking news i want to get to quickly. Police and protesters have been facing off again in hong kong. You saw how quickly things escalated yesterday during this show, live on this show. Lets get there right now, ben, what has been happening there tonight . Reporter kate, were in kowloon, a very workingclass neighborhood, where in the last hour protesters have clashed with police, just outside this Police Station here, which essential from which emerged Police Fire Tear gas. This is the first time tear gas has been used since the tumultuous events at the airport. What were seeing, is even though traffic is sort of coming by sporadically, local residents shining lasers at the Police Station, and of course Hong Kong Police have deemed lasers as an offensive weapon used by these protesters. Its important to know that most of the people on the street behind me are not dressed in the black of the protesters. These are local residents who are angry that the police seem to have used a fair amount of tear gas yet again in a very crowded residential workingclass neighborhood. This is what we have seen emerging in the last few days, that the anger at the police and therefore the government is not just coming from the protesters, but ordinary residents of hong kong who are tired of what seeing as they see as Excessive Police force, excessive use of tear gas. So despite the apologies that the protesters put on the yesterday and some of the excesses that occurred at the airport, it doesnt appear that the resentment against the authorities is in any way abated. Kate . Ben, thank you so much. Well see what happens in the coming hour at the very least. Thanks so much. Let me bring back in former ambassador to china, gary locke. Ambassador secretary, it was really surreal to watch it play out yesterday in the hong kong airport. It was like panic and pandemonium amongst the protesters and police. Now you have top chinese Officials Say the protests are showing signs of terrorism and state media showing tanks and amassing along the border. A key question at this moment, what do you think chinas next move here as this continues in hong kong . This is a very tense time, fraught with danger on both sides for both the protesters, the prodemocracy movement, but also mainland Chinese Government authorities. They cannot allow this to get out of the hand. Both sides have to be very, very careful about overreaching or overstepping. Certainly if the protests continue, china is going to be more inclined to step in. They cannot let this get out of the land for fear this would be an example, an encouragement to protesters, violence on the mainland itself, and thats something they cannot tolerate. Yesterday if they intervene, we risk an tiananmen square, where theres bloodshed, and the protesters i fear would be willing to martyr themselves on behalf of their cause. That would be absolutely devastating. Thats a terrifying thought. Do you think its a real possibili possibility. It should be communicated this must not happen at all costs. Change the leadership of hong kong, the chief executive, who is really aligned with beijing needs to step down. She made major blunders by proposing this tradition treaty with the mainland which sparked ought these protests, and basically said she was tabling the proposal, but not withdrawing it completely. The chinese could say this was all her creation. She did not control the police, so they could be the convenient scapegoat, replace her, have her step down, and lets bring some calm back to the situation. You mentioned World Leaders speaking up. Let me oz play for you what the president said about the clashes. The hong kong thing is very tough situation, very tough. Well see what happens, but im sure it would work out. I hope it works out for everybody, including china, by the way. I hope it works out for everybody. Its a tough situation, i hope it works out. Is that the kind of speaking up and speaking out that youre talking about from World Leaders . Is that enough coming from the white house . No, we dont need just hope. We need active intervention, use all of our diplomatic resources, communications directly with beijing, with the chinese embassy, not just wishful thinking, but intervention and active participation. Ambassador secretary, thank you for being here. Appreciate your time. My pleasure. Coming up for us, no apologies, the Trumps Administration official who sparked outrage on the iconic poem is now trying to explain himself again. Is it helping . Plus the white house and congress are holding talks on expanding background checks but are talks progress . Where does the president get his apparent opt miisms when he says they all want to get something done . Stay with us. Thanks to priceline working with top airlines to turn their unsold seats into amazing deals, Family Reunion attendance is up. Were all related yeah, i see it. And because priceline offers great deals by comparing thousands of prices in real time, sports fans are seeing more away games. Various yeahhh is that safe . Oh, y. Ahh not at all. No, maam. Nope. And more people than ever are enjoying romantic getaways. romantic music thats gross priceline. Every trip is a big deal. 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It was introduced it was written one year after the First Federal public charge rule was written. Joining mess renot political tom at a timer angela rye. Does that explanation make it better or worse . What it makes it is honest. What we know about this administration, and we knew from you know, Donald Trumps treacherous history with race, we knew when he announced his campaign, we knew when he was questioning barack obama ace citizenship, and anyone who is other who they cannot trace through that i lineage is problematic. It is for that reason, kate, i could tell you how exhausting it is to talk about racism and xenophobia is in this administration, but i also cannot express the outrage, the exhaustion, the people on the other side of that racism are feeling. So i will yell until my voice is hoarse. This is a problem. This is something we cannot sit idly by and watch, from the allies who benefit from White Supremacy and families who have benefited, its time for everybody to stand hand in hand and say its just not right. Emra lazarus, so of course that brings me to the bible. I think about, you know, the god that i serve. You know, we see all of this evangelical support for donald trump and i wonder what bible are they reading. Theres nothing about christs words that are in alignment with the policy of limitation we sue from this administration. Its a problem. We know that this issue is energizing to the trump base. Yeah. And i i think we can say candidly that when people are angry about when he says something or an ally of or theres outcry to something he says, thats energizing to President Trumps supporters as well. Do you see energizing the Democratic Base as well . This discussion very importantly, i think with where you are, is far beyond politics, actually, but when anything is done in the political season, you know theres a political point to it. I just wonder if it doesnt energize the Democratic Base as much. What do you think right now . I dont know, kate. Just going back to how i personally feel, im so tired of talking about it, and even more so, just like analyzing it almost not even like. Its like shock. You know, this conflict, how do we go this far, and the next thing is even worse. The fact he said what we all know the policy is for . Saying this is about europeans. We know thats what you thought his point, right, is this law has been on the books forever. What theyre doing, this administration, is expansion on the original concept, but the concept of the public charge has been on the books for a long time. Is it the law, or is it the explanation of what theyre trying to do with it thats so troubling. Its the intent. To me, as a lawyer, there are a gazillion cases out there in case law that talks about discriminatory intent as the reason. For me, i would always argue that if theres discriminatory impact, its just as egregious, but he told you in plain sight, plain hearing, exactly what the intent was. It was about europeans. So they have decided that black and brown immigrants are worthless. They have decided they dont contribute to this economy, this goes not true. They have decided near note adding value to this economy, which is not true. Hes been very explicit about their intent from the beginning. You ask a political question about energizing the base, i cant tell you enough, it is demoralizing to know in our 400 years being in this country, this is where we are. Thank you for being here, though. Great to see you, as always. Good to see you. 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Since thence President Trump has said that he wants to see something done. Here he was just yesterday. I am convinced we want to do something. I have spoken to Mitch Mcconnell. I think very strong le he wants background checks. I do, too. And a lot of republicans do, too. Where is the evidence of that . Where is any real sign of Real Progress . Or that anything has changed in the gun debate that has stalled in congress for years . Kaitlan collins is in new jersey where the president is vacationing. There are information at talks, but what are you actually hearing about how theyre going . Reporter the yes is where are they going . The talks are happening on early stages, of course, on legislation that could strengthen background checks, something you have had what are the president calling for, but theres a great deal of skepticism. They say based on what our sources are telling us, if there was any changes to the way the current gun system operates, they dont think theres a wealth of support from Senate Republicans right now. Thats reflected in what we are hearing, the lawmakers are telling lawmakers privately. So, yes, these talks are happening, but evidence and the fact there is that the fact that pat toomey is the only republican right now, a senator from pennsylvania, the only republican so far involved in these discussions. If that shows you with these talks are headed, right now theres not a lot of support. The president insists with the nra telling him something that his base in the red states are not going to support, but were told that they will brief the president during the vacation how these talks are going. Theyre putting off any progress. The president returns to washington next week. Even though the talks are happening, there is a great of skepticism that will move the needle on anything, kate. Skepticism is the only play to be, considering what history looks like and how much you can trust his position will be the same from one day to the next. While these informational talks may be happening, democrats are demanding more. Democrats are now accusing the Senate Majority leader of trying to run out the clock. Listen. We know exactly why he isnt here. Hes waiting for the outrage to die down, for the headlines to change, the people are turning the page thinking about something else. As he delays and waits for people to lose interest, 100 americans are dying every day from gun violence. Joining me now congressman tom reed. Thank you for being here. Always good to be here with you. Is he up stalling . Ive talked to members as weve been back in the district, that are eager to do something about gun violence, but the issue add hand is how do you do that . Do you attack the who . Or do you go after the what . The objects. If we do gown the object pass, i think that wont be a success. Background checks is limp ily a check. That gets to the who. The who in the background check are those exhibiting Mental Illness and have indications of that. That could be part of the conversation. Thats where this red flag type of discussion, thats the heart of that discussion. You also have, you know, 100 people dying a day. Many of those are being committed by previously convicted criminal defendants that used weapons in their prior acts. I will tell you, that is something if youre a criminal defendant, having a weapon in the future is something we can have a fruitful discussion about. Youre signaling youre open to the discussion. You voted against it is background check bill that passed the house in february. Have your he that was overly broad. This is about a constitutional freedom as represented in the Second Amendment. That bill would have banned even family exchanges, gives to love ones. Thats not something we want to do. Thats a lawabiding citizens rights. Thats one of the reasons this is so difficult. We are dealing with a constitutional freedom. Congressman peter king is supporting that expanding background check. Here is what he says about it all its not going to answer it all, may only answer a small part, but we know the bill will save lives, making it harder and harder to people the most dangerous to obtain weapons. How is he wrong . I disagree with my colleague. I think its too much of an infringement and to the conclusion that this is somehow going to save lives by implementing some magic bullet on the federal level . I dont see it. I see us having a conference about getting to the mental ilfeliz question, with psychopathic behavior indications. And the criminal defendant pieces of this, that gets lost in the debate also. The Mass Shootings take a lot of headlines, and rightfully so, but the daytoday headlines are those killed on the streets every day. That could be lost in this conversation. Let Adam Kinzinger, what he says. He voted against the bill, thought it was overly broad, but now hes changed his view after these shootings. Listen to this. I guess the epiphany i came to in terms of will they stop all shootings . No, but if they can stop even one shooting from happening and not infringe on the Second Amendment rights, we ought to do it. If things westbound tweaked or adjusted, great, but if it came back to me, even in its current form, there are things i dont like, i would probably vote for it. He supports the Second Amendment. He says you can support both. So i believe adam is a good friend, his heart is good. The initial response where he says we can improve upon in legislation, i think you get many republicans, republicans like myself that are willing to have that conversation. What im talking about hes talking about the ranchers, the elements of that billsh that through an amendment process if that happened, could you be on board with hr8 then . So if we improve that bill to respect the lawasiding citizen, thats a conversation we could have. What i saw in that bill is just overly god, and this is the heart of the issue. How do we respect lawaboyding citizens as guaranteed by the second 5e78d versus trying to do something about it. Im curious. The president says he is convinced that mip Mitch Mcconnell wants to do a background check bill. The president said a lot of republicans do. System your understanding of where things are right now . What the president is projecting is optimism i think a smarter place to be is its skeptical that anything would happen. Obviously the skepticism, giving the history, is legitimate, but that doesnt mean that republicans dont want to do nothing . We care about these individuals. When we get attacked because were republicans that somehow we want people to be killed in our streets, thats so patently offensive to a person like my. Im definitely not saying that. I know youre not, kate. But many people do, and many people lump that together. Thats not productive. If we can respect the position we come from, respecting freedom as represented by the Second Amendment, but wanting to do something on this issue, that is a conversation that will lead to common ground, and thats what ily Adam Kinzinger was alluding to. Im curious to see when you get back and the discussions begin. Congressman, thank for you coming in. Good to be with you, kate. Coming up, new details about one of the critical questions surrounding Jeffrey Epsteins death, and what does his death say about the federal prison system now . Thats next. At fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. 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The Justice Department has also reassigned the warden at the Corrections Center for the time being, and two guards were not sure if its those two guards, though have been put on leave. Weve been following the developments. Brynn, what more are you learning there . Reporter theres investigating teams that arrived yesterday and more arriving today, but you laid out the Big Questions what were the guards doing that time . Possibly cameras will help answer the questions. And another one, how long was he dead inside his cell. Hopefully an autopsy will give more insight. This as we are learning about the horrible conditions inside this prison that have been plaguing this prison for a long time. The metropolitan directional centering, a highlies cell, in the way much the apparent suicide of Jeffrey Epstein. We are learning of serious irregularities at this facility that are deep by concerning, and demand a thorough investigation. Reporter attorney general barr said he was angered by the lapse in protocol with monitoring epstein, who wasnt check on for hours after coming off suicide watch, according to one source briefed on the matter. That at a facility the Justice Department once considered to be one of the bestrun in the bureau of prison system, partly because of the highprofile inmates its housed like terrorists to bernie madoff. Former trump aide paul man a fort also spent a few days there in june. While the doj considered it well run, some of the most highprofile inmates do not, including he Joaquin El Chapo guzman, and complained about the lack of light and using toilet paper to drown out noise a civil rights attorney is currently suing the bureau after one client was allegedly beaten to death. I have heard numb lutz complaints about roaches, rats, feces in the showers. I would refer to it as unacceptable conditions. Reporter the mcc opened in 197 a planned to house 474 inmates. It currently holds 763. That means cells originally designed to hold one inmate often have two, a problem that puts serious strain on those who work there. You cannot have someone work two, three, four days in a row, 16 hours each day and think youre going to have somebody who will be at their operating at full capacity. Reporter a lot of problems, but lets turn to the accusers. Its a big day for them. One of them, jennifer arosa has filed a lawsuit naming the defendant the establishment of jeff epstein, the alleged madam of jeff epstein, and those described as the recruiter, the secretary and the maid, saying theyre all complicit to the sexual abuse she endured. So this is the first law filed, and likely will not be the last, kate. Brynn, thank you for the update. Joining mess is the former executive director of the thank you for being here. Pleased to be here. Thank you. What is your reaction when we see New York Times reporting. We know theres a requirement that they do checks on an inmate like Jeffrey Epstein every 30 minutes, and New York Times reporting that they had not checked on him in three hours. A couple points that i think are important. A couple truthing there. One is, everything thats broadband reported as a person whos worked on prison issues for over three decades, i have to be skeptical. All of this is being reported by the department of justice to the press form theres no independent investigation. For all we know, it might be true that the officers were asleep for three hours and left epstein alone in the cell, but we dont notice for sure. The investigations are being done by the agency that runs the institution. What we need to how to put this for the public for the findings to be more credible, we need outside independent investigators who have no vested interest in what theyre going to report. Having said that, what was reported is he was taken off suicide watch, which makes no sense, given hi profile. That he was clearly seriously depressed, probably abandoned by most of the people in his life, charged with the kind of crimes that brought a heap of shame on him. He is a textbook case of a suicidal incarcerated person. To take him off suicide watch doesnt makes sense, and to check his cell every 30 minutes doesnt make sense. That gives him plenty of time to kill himself. So outside investigation is critical, independent investigation is critical. What we know, though, is already damning. The conspiracy theories im usually pretty dismissive, but they are providing so much raw material for credible conspiracy theories, because it makes a thought of sense that the wealthy people and powerful people we know epstein was connected with, maybe even used, quote unquote his services, would like to see him dead so he couldnt expose them. 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He will have to pay damages to the victim as well as legal expenses. We are all talking about this case because of President Trumps involvement. He tweeted several times after being asked by kanye west to get involved, he tried to pressure sweden Prime Minister to release asap rocky. Swedish officials did not seem to be deterred by President Trumps tweets, saying that judicial system was completely independent from politics. The judge told reporters today he did not let the president s tweets affect his judgment. Asap rockys attorneys said theyre disappointed in the verdict but theres no word on whether they will appeal. So far, weve not heard from President Trump. Well wait and see if that is coming. Hadas, thank you. Appreciate it. Warning signs flashing. The dow tumbling. Look where it is at this moment. Is the u. S. Economy facing a recession . What is setting off fears today . More on our breaking news, straight ahead. A migfrom aimovig. To be there for the good. And not so good. 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Welcome to inside politics. Im john keng. Thank you for joining us. Sending the markets into a tailspin. Reliable predictor of a downturn. Several democrats running for president being urged to run for the senate instead. John hickenlooper said hes thinking about it. Deep skepticism there will be a bipartisan agreement even on that narrow issue, never mind other ideas being pushed by democrats. I think we should ban assault weapons as well as large magazines, and as part o