Which i imagine mueller i imagine he disclosed it to rosenstein when he appointed him. It would involve something that actually wasnt settled even to this day. Whats the conflict in. I have a good idea what it is. Its one that would have kept me out the investigation. All cleared up . Add to that this. Giuliani is not sure that collusion with russia that collusion with russia, if it happened, is a crime anyway. Is this the definition now of moving the goalposts . Regardless of goalpost moving, why then is the president spending so much time and at every turn will say that no collusion happened with russia if its now not a big deal and not a problem . Again, all cleared up . As far as Michael Cohen, the president s Attorney Says cohen doctored the tapes of his conversations with the president , says their experts agree. Now what . Abby phillip is at the white house. I would not fault anyone if their head was spinning today
the payment to an alleged mistress, its not about that. Its about cohens credibility as a potential witness in this case. President trump got in on this over the Weekend Tweeting or in some cases subtweeting Michael Cohen by retweeting an old tweet of Michael Cohen in which he praised donald trump juniors explanation for the Trump Tower Meeting and asks, will the Fake News Media ever report on this . We did report on it at the time. It goes to show, so much has changed in the president s relationship with Michael Cohen and vice versa. They are really at odds with each other. Not in any way going to reconcile with each other, it seems, based on what were seeing right now. But wait until tomorrow or maybe just within this hour. Great to see you. Thank you so much. Joining me right now, former fbi Special Agent asharina opa
and mark preston. Mark, can you try this on for size today . You have a conflict that renders you incapable of doing your job. Im not going to spell out what it is and its up to you to explain yourself, what your conflict is and why it renders you incapable of doing your job. What is this . What world are we living in . Are we living in the current State Of Play right now . Listen, you know whats happening . Its so confusing. Theres so many facts out there. Theres so much misinformation. What we are seeing i believe seems from the trump campaign, from the trump lawyers, from Rudy Giuliani is what they are trying do trying to do is create chaos. They are sowing seeds of doubt. This is very dangerous, creating all this white noise is basically lying. Its impeding an investigation even if its not legally impeding an investigation. Kate Bolduan gives a fresh take on todays top stories. Could be prosecuted on their own. I can tell you that somebody people who do that would never in the real world get a Security Clearance and have access to all of the nations secrets and be entrusted with stewarding the country. Focus only on the criminal aspect, i think also misses the forest for the trees. I also i guess, what should anyone take from this comment from giuliani . We all at least can try to remember, since its been a winding road, where this began which is everyone saying theres no collusion, theres no collusion, theres no collusion. Then very memorably Kellyanne Conway coming along visual aids to make this point where collusion was extremely important. Just watch this to remember. In case you run out of time, this is how i see it so far. This to help all the people at home. Whats the conclusion . Collusion, no. We dont have that yet. I see illusion and delusion. I mean, who knows . I think mark is right, there is this, i think, goal of the trump team to really confuse everything. There seems to be preparing supporters to say, well, listen, even if collusion has come up, then whats wrong with that . Whats wrong if donald trump knew about that meeting . Whats wrong if donald trump junior was willing to get information from the russians to help out his Fathers Campaign . You even heard folks say that. They seem to be preparing the groundwork for something at this point, but also who really knows at this point . You have giuliani in a real spin mode at this point and really worried about what cohen knows, what cohen has released. He has in a defensive and offensive crouch in a way we hadnt seen him before when he had all of the territory out there, all of the oxygen and cohen wasnt really speaking. This is, who knows where this will go . Its a long and winding road. Theyre throwing out a lot of distractions. Ultimately, mueller at some point will release a report, maybe in september, maybe a little later. Who knows . At this point, were just having to see Giuliani Spin and donald trump really trying to keep a hold on his supporters. At the same time, it seems folks are worried but not worried thats within the same conversation is what you hear from the president s team. Mark, on my Michael Cohen, giuliani started first suggesting that the tapes could have been doctored, over the weekend, could have been doctored. So should be discredited. He thinks the verdict is in on it. Listen to his interview. By the way, he didnt put out
the first part of that tape. I had to go find the first part of the tape. He cut off the last part of the tape with trump, which our expert says is doctored. I think its unlikely he turned it off during the conversation, so does the expert. Think about it. If i were recording your conversation and trump didnt know it, i would have to put it off at the right time, unlikely. More likely is, he came back home, he erased the portion that he wanted erased and then he tried to tape record a conversation it appears with don junior. Then he erased that. Is this now just how far down the rabbit hole are we . Did anybody have any trouble following that . For a little while i was like, where is he going . He pulled it back together. We are so far down the rabbit hole right now. I agree, we all agree that they should have audiologists, folks who can come out there, Audio Experts that can tell us what the tape is. Anything they are trying to get to. It may not even be something that they want or need at this point. We will wait and see. Until tomorrow, friends. Thanks. Coming up for us, the president threatens a Government Shutdown over funding for the border wall. Top republicans in congress are not on the same page with this. Where is this headed . More details on that coming up. A heartbreaking tragedy in california where growing wildfires have killed at least six people and one man is speaking out after losing his wife and two greatgrandchildren to these flames. Thats next. Emily said, i love you grandpa. Grandma says, i love you. Junior says, i love you. Come and get us. Come and get us. I said, im on my way. I said, keep him talking until he died. I tried to call him back. It went to nothing. You always pay your insurance on time. News flash nobodys perfect. For drivers with accident forgiveness, Liberty Mutual wont raise your rates due to your first accident. Switch and you could save 782 on home and auto insurance. Call for a free quote today. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. The nations largest seniorliving referral service. For the past five years, ive spoken with hundreds of families and visited seniorcare communities around the country. And ive got to tell you, todays seniorliving communities are better than ever. These days, there are amazing amenities, like movie theaters, Exercise Rooms and swimming pools, public cafes, bars, and bistros, even petcare services. And nobody understands your options like the advisers at a Place For Mom. These are local, expert advisers that will partner with you to find the perfect place
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subdivision. Much of the neighborhood looks like this. So much devastation in the community. You are talking about nearly 900 structures that have gone up in flames, more than 700 of them are homes. It looks like a bomb went off behind you. That story dan, thank you so much for bringing that to us. My heart breaks for that poor man. Lets talk about what others are dealing with right now with this fire, like that poor man, where the fire is headed and what folks are doing about it. Chad myers is in the weather center. That is tough to handle, what that poor man is going through. A lot of families are facing this very same thing, which is, its moving fast, its big. Give us perspective how big this fire is at this point. We talk about acres and no one can put their mind on what that means. We are talking 154 square miles. Ten miles long, 15 miles wide right there through the western side of redding. Its the wild land urban interface on the west side that did catch fire. Its always the most dangerous. You put really nice houses into the prettiest places because theres trees. When the trees catch on fire, you are right in the middle of it. To put it in perspective, seven times the size of manhattan. Half the size of all the boroughs put together. A lot of smoke out there as well right now, choking smoke, unhealthy to breathe. Advisories have been posted. Temperatures in the triple digits again. Thats not unusual. The normal high is 100. It will be 104, 105. Gusty winds because the air is rising so fast, because the ground is so hot, because that fire the fire makes a low Pressure Center where it is. The air rises and other air has to rush in. Thats how it turns into the blast furnace. No relief in sight. The next Chance Of Rain is statistically happening on tuesday of next week, because of this big ridge of high pressure. No help from Mother Nature at all. Thats a punch in the gut for everyone out there battling those flames. I appreciate it, chad. 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If theres one phrase to describe congress, a welloiled machine is likely not at the top of your list. The next looming fight is not likely to help. Another possible Government Shutdown. One right before the midterm elections. President trump is making the threat tweeting this just yesterday. I would be willing to shut down government if democrats do not give us the votes for the border for border security, which includes the wall. Top republicans in congress seem to have a different take. Listen. As far as the wall is concerned, we have gotten some wall funding under way. The president s willing to be patient to make sure we get what we need so we can get that done. You are not worried about a Government Shutdown . Thats not going to happen. I dont like playing shutdown politics. Were going to make sure we keep the government open but were going to get better policies on immigration. All of them saying we hope thats whats going to happen. David, how real is this . Another Government Shutdown. At the end of the day, i dont think this would be a goal anyone wants to achieve. The president clearly not republicans on the hill as you are suggesting. I think its a little less important about how real it is than what is real is just the threat of it is going to impact the dynamics. Now speaker ryan and Mitch Mcconnell who thought they had the president in a good place and understood this would not benefit the party politically, now have to deal with wrangling the votes in the shadow of a Shutdown Showdown Threat because
the president sees leverage in just to get money or distract from other woes. You know this president and have observed him. Any time he thinks he has leverage, he is not likely to give that up easily. Is this fight is this a fight the president really wants . Its very clear that no majority in Congress Wants a Government Shutdown. It ends up landing on them. Thats how it goes. I cant imagine theres a political adviser anywhere that says to President Trump, you know what would be a good idea heading into the midterms, lets actually shut down the government. Thats a great idea. I dont think that is an actual strategy, which is why i dont think the president seriously wants that outcome here. I do think there are a lot of people in the president s orbit and the president believe the greatest danger to the republican majority is complacency among the core Base Supporters in the party. I do think the president sees
some value in having an all out fight over wall funding as a way to generate enthusiasm in the base. The reality right now is that the house is out for the next five weeks. When we talk about actual action here, wait and see. Talk to me about the State Of Play where cnn is forecasting key house races. Im finding this workup fascinating. Those 27 tossup races are making democrats happen because 25 are in republican held seats. This is all Offensive Turf for the democrats. The other reason democrats see a lot to celebrate in those particular tossup races is 11 of them are in districts that Hillary Clinton won in 2016. It is favorable turf. Theres no doubt the Battle Landscape is favorable turf for democrats. You had mentioned 27 tossups. Remember in our ratings, we have 11 republican held seats that are already less competitive than tossup. They are either in lean or likely democratic territory. They are almost halfway there, the democrats, to the 23 seats they need to become the majority party. I know you heard it but i want to play for our viewers what the president said on friday in terms of what his role would be coming up. The economy is the strongest ever. I think thats going to have a positive impact. I am going to work very hard. I will go six or seven days a week when were 60 days out and i will be campaigning for all of these great people that do have a difficult race. We think were going to bring them over the line. Six or seven days hitting the trail of 60 days out. Whats that going to look like . What does it mean for the balance in some of the races . We know the president loves the campaign trail. He gets feedback from people that show up to the rallies. He is eager to get out there. My question is, show me the map, show me the districts he is going to campaign in. In terms of the house, a lot of the districts that we were talking about that Hillary Clinton won, the republicans hold them, we are talking about independent vo penependent vote trumps base, that may make the difference. We have to watch carefully where he will spend those six or seven days a week on the trail. Yeah. Who will stand on the stage with him. Great to see you. Thank you so much. Coming up for us, is the tsa watching you . Maybe. Previously Undisclosed Program come to light. Federal air marshals tracking american citizens even when they are not suspected of any crime. Whats going on . We have the details next. Let your perfect drive come together at the Lincoln Summer Invitation sales event. Get 0 apr on select 2018 lincoln models plus 1,000 bonus cash. Booking a flight doesnt have to be expensive. Just go to priceline. Its the best place to book a flight a few days before my trip and still save up to 40 . Just tap and go. For the best savings on flights, go to priceline. 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They say for that reason, they dont advertise these sort of programs. Thats why were actually just learning about it now. We do know more details. After speaking with tsa this weekend, we know for the past eight years, ordinary americans, passengers on flights, with no obvious ties to terrorism, have been tracked by the agency. Tsa wont die eventuv divulge dt works. Cnn confirmed that passengers are selected based on past travel patterns, whether someone traveled to a terror hot spot. The agency relies on information from the intel community. Once the agency selects who they are going to track, an Undercover Air marshal is dispatched to the flight that you are on and is strategically placed in a seat where they can observe your every move, all your behavior during the flight. They are looking for things. Are you abnormally aware of your surroundings . Excessive fidgeting . They are looking at people sleeping. Many people guilty of that, including myself. Tsa faced a lot of questions following the news that this progr program exists. There is no intention to surveil ordinary americans. Its purpose is to ensure passengers and flight crew are protected during air travel, no different than putting a Police Officer on a beat or intelligence and information presents a need for increased watch. As you know, this all raises a couple of concerns. Privacy, of course. Then i spoke with several air marshals who say, we are now focusing on passengers with no obvious ties to terrorism. They feel, some of them feel that this distracts them from their core mission of protecting the cockpit. We just dont know how successful the program has been because tsa wont say whether its actually helped them foil any potential plot. Thats interesting. Thank you so much. Joining me to discuss this further is mary schiavo. Shes a former Inspector General for the department of transportation. Good to see you. Thank you. From what we heard theres a lot of detail thats not provided. From what we heard, do you think this is an effective strategy to screen for dangerous people because of some of the things they are pointing out . Most of the data that show us whats really effective in thwarts attacks have come out of studies focusing on israeli security. This is part of a multilayered Security Program, a multilayered Security Program thats required by the International CivilAviation Organization so we can fly into each others airports. It has been shown that this observational addition to security or behavioral pattern
observance is effective when done by trained personnel. Yes, its been shown to be effective. Tsa spokesman in the statement, one part of it i wanted to ask you about. What these air marshals is doing than no different than a cop working a beat. Looking for suspicious behavior in the community that they work in, gathering intelligence, watching people for suspicious behavior. Do they have a point . Actually, they do. Air marshals are cops on the beat. They are United States 1811 Law Enforcement agents. They have badges. They are performing a Law Enforcement function. Who are they going to watch . People have to remember that an aircraft and airport, the areas outside the airport are public areas. What you do in a public place is subject to observation. Theres nothing illegal by watching people. Im talking about watching. When you enter the airport, you are probably on camera between 10 and 20 type times in the ai. On the airplane, thats a public place. Its a public place. You can be watched. What do you say to the aclu and others who say this is this is too far. It takes marshals away from their core mission. Its an invasion of privacy for folks not on any no fly list or watch list. They have a partial point. In some ways its a compromise the way the United States does it. Israel makes no bones about it. They say that 88 of the terrorists are muslim and 87 are male and thats who they are watching. In the United States, we focus on Bow Hafehavior than racial profiling. If you look at behavior, technically under the law, they can do it. Thats why they are looking at behavior. Any time anyone talks about rapid blinking or eye movement, i find myself blinking quite a bit more. Mary, thank you. Coming up, President Trump facing reporters soon, meeting with the new italian Prime Minister. The Prime MinisterWhose Campaign slogan was trumpian. Who can happen today . We will bring it to you live. Liberty mutual saved us almost 800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. With liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. Hey oh, thats my robe. Is it . When you switch to Liberty Mutual, you could save 782 on auto and home insurance. And still get great coverage for you and your family. Call for a free quote today. You could save 782. Liberty mutual insurance. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Same tough posture on some key issues as the president mentioned there, immigration. What should folks expect from the two leaders today . Joining me Caitlyn Collins is here and Samantha Vinaigrette is here as well. What are you hearing about this friendship between these two leaders . Thats a good way to put it. President trump has seemed to welcome him. He is inviting him to the white house. The president says she got to know each other at the nato summit. They spoke for an hour and a half. Which is interesting because that was a summit largely where the president was at odds with a lot of the leaders in the European Union. The president was developing a relationship with him saying they agree on immigration, something that the italian Prime Minister is at odds with a lot of european leaders on. Immigration as well as trade and tariffs and those issues as well. The president is welcoming him here today to discuss all of those things as well a slew of other issues. It does seem this is one leader in europe the president has the
potential to have a Good Relationship with, even though he has a lower profile. The president does seem to be striving to have a Good Relationship with him because they agree on those key issues that are very important to President Trump like immigration. That seems to be where they are Going Forward with this. They will take questions at a Press Conference later today where they will likely discuss what was it was that happened between the two of them. Before we get there, sam, immigration, one area where they see eye to eye. Also, his desire to have a closer relationship or a warmer relationship with russia as well. Why would italy want a better a closer relationship with russia . Why does that why is that important to President Trump . Why would that be important . Conte has wanted a closer relationship with russia. There was threats they would
veto the sanctions against russia. They didnt. Italy did not veto those sanctions. They went forward. Its important to remember that conte is a moderate within his coalition. The two parties thats right part of his coalition are theyre very far right. They have actually signed direct agreements with russia to Work Together in various ways. His deputy Prime Minister says he wants to visit russia to forge closer business ties. Conte has politics back home, and we may hear him take a tough stance against russia during this press briefing, and it remains to be seen whether the president will echo it. Who will be tougher or less lets do the Double Negative thing. Who will be less tougher . Who will be the least toughest on russia . I know where my bet it. Cnn is in the pool once again today. This will be the First Oval Office event before they take
questions. The First Oval Office with a foreign leader since the incident that you faced last week. You asked a question of the president , then after that you were told you couldnt cover the event afterward because they didnt like what you asked. What happens today, kaitlan . Reporter we expect it to be business as usual. Reporters will go in the room at the beginning of that meeting with the italian Prime Minister. We do expect them to ask questions, as we do at every opportunity that we have with President Trump. Hes often eager to answer those questions, and he clearly, as you could see from his twitter this weekend, had a lot on his mind that he wanted to talk about. We often see that reflected during those pool sprays at the top where a few reporters are allowed in the room. Now, i should note that the president has not taken any reporters questions since that incident last week. He went and spent the weekend at his golf course in bedminster, new jersey, but there will be several opportunities to hear from the president today, including that meeting there but also at that Press Conference where the president and the Prime Minister are expected to take two questions each from american and from the italian
press. So we should likely hear from President Trump on several occasions today, kate, and there will be lots of questions for the president. As there always are, as there always should be. Sam, while the president likes the Prime Minister, italy is also one of the countries who hasnt met that 2 standard when it comes to nato, which feels like a hundred years ago that weve talked so much about this. So i do wonder which donald trump is going to show up when it comes to this issue thats very important to him. I have a feeling that hes going to turn his ire on the eu rather than on italy and its nato obligations because both italy and the United States have been critical of the European Union in terms of fiscal p policies, Immigration Policies and have pointed at merkel and macron. I think trump will probably support the Prime Minister today and instead look at eu and more burden sharing that could be done from them. Lets see. Great to see you both. Thank you so much. Coming up next, more than four years after mh370 vanished from radar and become one of aviations greatest mysteries, theres a new clue in the case. Could families of the 239 people on board be any closer to getting answers . Nary stains sayy can do the job, but behr premium stain can weather any weather. Overall 1 rated, weathers it all. Find our most advanced formula exclusively at the home depot. I wok Harmonica Interrupts ld. And told people about geico. Harmonica Interrupts how they could save 15 or more by. Harmonica Interrupts . By just calling or going online to geico. Com. Harmonica Interrupts sighs and chuckles sorry, are you gonna. Harmonica Interrupts everytime. Geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 or more on car insurance. Plane, still no closure for the families, and still no explanation of really what went wrong, but today there is a possible new clue about what was happening on that flight, on Malaysia Airlines flight 370 four years ago. A new report about what happened when that plane made that mysterious turn back toward kuala lumpur as it was making its way to beijing. Joining me from hong kong is cnns will ripley. Its amazing how long it has been and still so few answers from when you and i were over there. Basically nothing new since you and i were over there, but this new report saying the plane was under manual control. What are you hearing about this . Yeah, its been 1,606 days since the plane disappeared and we were on the ground. We were next to those families in such agony, desperately wanting some sort of answer from the government. Well, now they have this. 495 pages full of facts and zero answers. But what the report does say is they do believe that somebody was at the controls, turning the plane around on that kind of
drastic uturn that sent it on that presumed course towards the southern indian ocean. But investigators have no idea who it was. Was it the captain who was under so much suspicion in the early days who had that Flight Simulator with a programmed path to the indian ocean, which investigators say doesnt really say anything . They didnt find any intent in his personal life or for the first officer or for anybody else. 12 crew members, 237 passengers. They think at some point the plane was under manual control. Was it because of some emergency . It was a more sinister criminal act . More than 230,000 Square Kilometers have been searched. They have found nothing in the search. 27 pieces of debris have washed up along africas east coast. Three of them have been confirmed to be definitively from mh370, pieces of the wing. But they havent found the plane. They havent found those 237 people. And for Family Members once again waking up and going to bed not knowing what happened. And will, quite honestly, this is basically the undefinitive definitive answer