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Anderson Cooper takes viewers beyond the headlines with indepth reporting and investigations. Order simply disrespecting the flag, but about social injustice, a dispute about the Justice System and police brutality. Whats notable here is that though President Trump argues that his players have a difficult time defining exactly what theyre protesting, he revealed earlier this year that he clearly understands their motives. I want you to listen to this sound bite from President Trump in june. We have a great country you. Should stand for our National Anthem. You shouldnt go in a locker room when our National Anthem playing. Im going ask all of those people to recommend to me, because thats what theyre proegt, people that they think were unfairly treated by the Justice System. And i understand that. And im going ask them to recommend to me people that were unfairly treated, friends of theirs or people that they know about, and im going to take a look at those applications. And if i find and my question finds that theyre unfairly they have not responded. And that is important, because previously, after the riots in charlottesville, the president came out and laid that statement that was so criticized about there being fine people on both sides, the white house then having to clarify the president s position after that. This is something they know is coming, but yet it appears that they would rather wait and see how it plays out than distancing themselves immediately from these racists. Boris sanchez, i appreciate it. I want to dig deeper with respect to charlottesville. The president s choice again to go after nfl players. Joining me van jones, host of telephone Van Jones Hoe and the reverend michael faulkner. Van, i wonder what you mean of the president , what he means when he says the players are unable to define what theyre protesting . Well, its hard not to see that in the worst possible light, that hes not just saying he disagrees with them, he thinks theyre too dumb to express themselves. I think theyve been expressing themselves quite elegantly. On the field and off the field. Dont also forget, a lot of these Young Players now are not just doing the protest on the field, theyre getting involved in their community. Theyre speak out. Theyre registering voters. There is a lot of stuff going on. I think its sad the president hasnt acknowledged that. This is really unfortunate because you just saw the president say i want to engage. Im willing to take on the issue. In fact, he is making some positive steps substantively on Criminal Justice at the policy level, but the politics for him always come back to insulting black people. So you have a tale of two president sis where he is actually taking seriously some of these issues. Hes met with governors about Criminal Justice, and then the same day he goes back to the old nonsense of insulting black people and riling up his base. Reverend falkner, is this just about getting the base, riling up the base. You mean with the president . I dont know, i dont know. Ive got no idea why he wants to take this issue on. I dont think its wise for him to do that. But let me tell you what i would do if i was a player, which i was. I salute my flag. Whenever i get an opportunity, i do salute my flag. Not because america is perfect, because of the ideals of america. And i will always salute that. That said, i do support these players and their right to protest. I think it is unwise, and i think there are a lot of other good things they can be doing. Van just mentioned some of the things that they were doing. Im doing a lot of good things in our community, and i just moved to philadelphia. Were doing a lot of good things at the urban hope, you know, the urban hope center there but my point is there is a lot of positive things that can be done that need to be done, that need to be recognized rather than taking the National Stage and protesting the United States of america. You said you didnt think it was wise for the president to bring this up. I dont know if its just a coincidence that he is bringing up on the eve of the anniversary in charlottesville. I dont know why he would link the two at all. But just as an observer, obviously you cant get in his head as to why he is saying this, he certainly has said to other people that this works for his base. And that clearly seems to be why he continues to do it. Because hes already brought up up this issue. Its not as if this is there is no ground here. Here is the thing about the president , who i voted for, by the way. Lets put that out there. Full disclosure. He is a politician entertainer. We take him way too seriously. The office of the presidency of the United States is much more important than some of the antics that our president engages in. Its embarrassing. Sometimes its embarrassing. Sometimes im enhanced. But i do know i am an american. I have to live my life regardless of what the president does. And i know im on a National Media platform right now and were talking about the president , but i think we get way too much in the weeds on what the president does or doesnt do. I just think because we have a congress, our constitution is set up so that the president cant shipwreck the country. Well, so far. But i think i understand what youre saying. And i think sometimes people do get too upset about stuff. But at the end of the day, leadership matters. And when you dont have a forthright condemnation of a nazi march outside of the white house, that sends a signal. Thats just not people setting hair on fire for no reason. That sends a signal that there is a bunch of people that 99 of americans dont want to have anywhere around them, its okay. Im very concerned about this weekend. Im concerned that were going to go into a weekend where there is pain, where there is steer and we will not have president ial leadership. And silence may seem like consent. Silence may seem like affirmation. I agree with you. There is other stuff to be worrying about. But a growth of a Nazi Movement unopposed in our country by the president is bad. We cant visit. Its its i dont want to say nonsensical, but its outrageous that that would not be decried. And as a republican who supported the president , i would say mr. President , please decry these nazi racist crazy people walking across the street from the white house. I mean, weve got to denounce this stuff. Now, that said, my friends, my brothers, the fraternity of the nfl, these guys have a great platform. They can make a huge difference. These are gamechangers in their community. And by the way, the show that we were on that we did last year, i mean, it was some great things that were said about the positive things the nfl, the league, the owners have done some things positive. I think there is a lot of positive things that we have. I dont understand why its Still Necessary for these guys to take a knee or raise a fist. I dont understand. Because the conditions have not changed. You got to remember, were old guys now. Youre talking about some of these guys are two, three years out of the hood. When they go home for thanksgiving dinner, their cousins, their uncles, their aunts are still dealing with a police force that are sometimes more hostile than three neighborhoods over, the conditions havent changed and a they want to keep protesting. Listen, i think it has been an overall netnet constructive intervention. Ive never seen athletes in my lifetime have this kind of impact for better or for worse. Jim brown. Kareem abduljabbar, but in my lifetime, this has been one of the most effective interventions by athletes and i think we should be proud of them for caring enough. They could just be worrying about their sneaker deals and that would be worse. Anderson, it would be interesting to follow up, find out what theyre doing. How many are really engaged in the community. I mean, they have foundations. And we need to find out who they are, and we need to report that that needs to be whats reported rather than just simply say hey, theyre protesting. Okay. But lebron james obviously did more. He support the protests for colin kaepernick. And then while President Trump is putting babies in prison cells, lebron is putting children in classrooms, and he gets called dumb. At what point can these young people win . At this point, they can make a difference. They can stand up for their communities. They can show up and be counted. There is so much thats going on in the communities. I just moved in to inner city philadelphia from harlem, and im telling you, its amazing the opportunity that we have to make a difference in peoples lives if we love them and care for them and show up every day. Its interesting, though you. Talk about the office of the president as being more important than the president himself. And i hear what youre saying in that. It is, though, in past administrations people talked about the bully pulpit the president has. Right. Under this president , it is actually a bully pulpit in many cases because there is actually bullying going on, despite the good efforts of the first lady. But the whole idea of the office of the president does carry a weight to it, and it does you talk about leadership. That is the ultimate in somebody at the top saying to somebody in any community i see you, i hear you, i care about you. You know what drives me crazy . This is a tale of two president sis. Literally, you have the president of the United States this week met with republican governors to talk about how to do criminal Justice Reform, how to do prison reform. And then he turns literally around in the same news cycle, destroys all that coverage, and picks a dumb fight. So you got the policy moving in this direction. Hes not dumb. He clearly sees it that there is a political advantage among the people you mean, For The Quote Unquote Racist base . Im not saying its a racist base. Im saying for his base, and im not calling them racist. But, you know, there are plenty of people who dont like the protests and theyre not racists. They just dont think its the right venue. And im one of those. Okay. But his message certainly appeals to his base. Yeah, i mean, i guess. But when we define a base like that, most americans love america. Hey, they i called them patriots before. Ive never decried their patriotism. Im just saying i would choose to do it another way, okay. But with their patriotism and with the patriotism that we have for most americans, we need to come together. There needs to be positive reinforcement for those things that these nfl guys are doing. It would be great to have a show on that. And then, then we can say to the president , mr. President , see what these guys are doing. Lets say he should have a conference at the white house, a white house conference on social Justice Reform and have some of these guys show up. Because they are very, very intelligent. Have some of them show up and addon advantage. Only when you book with expedia. Addon advantage. At ally, were doing Digital Financial services right. But if thats not enough, we have more than 8000 allys looking out for one thing you. Call in the next ten minutes. And if thats not enough, well look after your every dollar. Put down the phone. And if thats not enough, well look after your every cent. Grab your wallet. Beeping Sound Computer Voice access denied. 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Some neonazis carried a guns and chanted white lives matter. Both sides fired pepper spray. Police desperately tried to disperse the crowd, declaring it an unlawful assembly. By early afternoon, police were in riot gear. It turned deadly when around 1 30 p. M. A man drove a Dodge Challenger into a crowd of people. The car deliberately targeting, lining up and then gunning the engine to do maximum damage on the crowd. He smashed into the crowd. Bodies went flying. Reporter photographer ryan kelly took these photos at the scene. Drove over the sidewalk and came barreling down at full speed into the crowd, immediately put it into reverse and reversed at speed back up the hill and took off down the side street. Reporter when it was over, 32yearold Heather Heyer was dead. Dozens of others were injured. I saw a woman tumbling down on my windshield and just laying there. And i kind of like closed my eyes because i didnt know what i was seeing was real. I remember Heather Heyer being on the ground near the back of my sisters car. There were emts all around her, but i remember particularly the emt that was giving her cpr at the time. He was using all of his might, all of his force to try and revive her. Reporter the driver of the car that plowed into the crowd was arrested and charged. Hes pleaded not guilty and is awaiting trial. That same day, two State Troopers were killed when their helicopter crashed while patrolling the area. In response to it all, President Donald Trump didnt denounce the hate groups involved. Instead, he said this. We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry, and violence on many sides. On many sides. Go away, racist, sexist, antigay reporter the backlash was swift, yet three days later, the president doubled down on his remarks. You look at both sides, i think there is blame on both sides. The neonazis started this thing in charlottesville. They started in excuse me, excuse me. They didnt put themselves down. And you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. Reporter the images seem to tell a different story. Randi kaye, cnn, new york. Well, those images go without saying, will never leave the woman youre about to meet, Heather Heyers mom who had the sad duty and the privilege of carrying out her daughters legacy. She runs the Heather Heyer foundation, a program for people with social passion for justice. I know this is a tough weekend. First of all, how you holding up . How has this year been for you . Im so busy doing interviews this weekend, i dont have much time to think. But check came in the mail today for the estate of Heather Heyer. And i those words always tear at my heart. I bawled like a baby for about ten minutes, and then i pulled it together and said okay, back to work. And so thats how im getting through the weekend is im staying busy. And then im going to collapse sunday night and collapse monday and then tuesday im back at work again. Because thats what you do. You survive. You dont give up. The past year has been surreal. People like spike lee, bernie sanders, they know my name. They have my phone number, you know. Thats kind of crazy. And, yeah, just im just really trying to push hard now, though. Lets take the Focus Off Heather as health worry want us to do. Its been a year now. And Lets Focus On Why she was there. Lets focus on what she died for. Lets focus On The Issues that we have yet to resolve. With the Heather Heyer foundation, im trying to find her replacements. Im trying to pass that baton off, but i also want people to focus on the fact that we need to address the racial issues in our country. Im wondering if you feel like your eyes were opened not by what happened to your daughter, but by the public displays that We Saw In Charlottesville last year, people, you know, men marching through the streets with torches, chanting jews will not replace us and attacking other people. I know. That was insane. I i think it those of white house werent paying attention, sadly, that was a big shock. Those who were paying attention, knew it was coming. And it definitely snapped our heads around. Im sorry that somebody had to die before we paid attention, honestly. But, you know, there are lots of people who were physically wounded, who were assaulted, who still are dealing with surgeries and still dealing with trauma. And some people will never recover from last year. And that was quite an assault on our soul as well. And hate is a nasty bit of acid to our psyche. And we really need to not have hate in our world. But the only way were going to do that is to fix the problems. We cant just spackle this over if we just try to cover this over, if we try to rush into healing this, were going to be right back here in a few years. Youve spent the last year carrying on heathers legacy of a new foundation, the Heather Heyer foundation. Right. Stepping into her activist shoes. What do you see . What do you want to have change . What have you been fighting for . Well, im looking for those kids who are already motived for positive change, for positive nonviolent change and im saying fine. Ill help your education. Ill help your training. Ill help give you practical experience. Im not trying to create activists. Some kids are automatically that way, and im looking for those kids, and were looking to support their endeavors, to support their education, support their training. Virginia, charlottesville are already under states emergency. Right. People are on edge, from your city, the nations capital. What would be your message to people this weekend . Dont let your guard down. Be aware of your surroundings. You dont need to be paranoid, but you need to be aware there is a difference. You dont need to live in fear, but you need to live in a little higher state of alert. This too shall pass, and just realize that when people hate, there are going to be problems. And theres really no place for hate. I want i want to ask you something that i read that i wasnt sure was true. Ive read that you had to keep the location of heathers grave secret because of concern that neonazis would go there and deface it is. That true . Partly. The cemetery and i both agreed that there is no need for anybody to visit heathers grave. Even wellwishers would end up trampling other peoples graves. Some mistaken person would maybe break some things or deliberately. But i will tell you that emmitt tills marker was recently shot up. In fact, it gets shot up on a recent basis. There are people in the world who will do stupid things like that. One time, i dont think its happened again because we called them out on it, but one time there were new testament, candles, flowers and things at heathers memorial. I went to visit and somebody had urinated all over everything and left a note saying its okay to be white again. So yes, there are people who will do stupid things like that. So i just keep it private. The Downtown Memorial is where people can pay their respects and they dont need to bother her ashes. Susan bro, i appreciate all youre doing and i appreciate you talking to us tonight. Thank you, anderson. One final note, the Foundation Susan bro runs and the scholarships she sponsors, if you want to donate, the Heather Heyer foundation. Com. Coming up, a Manhattan Madam was scheduled to testify in the Mueller Investigation today. She is a friend of roger stone. Later after hours, behind close doors, testimony finally resumed in the Paul Manafort trial where Prosecutor Says they are on the verge of wrapping up their case. 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Manhattan mad zh madam was scheduled to testify today. She is a close friend of roger stone. Roger stone is meantime another associate of stone, Andrew Miller defied a subpoena to testify. His attorney saying they intend to appeal that order to appear. Jessica schneider has more details. So kerstin davis, who was once known as the Manhattan Madam, she was scheduled to testify as mueller appears to be focusing in on roger stone. Whats the latest . Yeah, shes likely of big interest to the Special Counsel because of her close friendship and the fact that she is a longtime associate of roger stone. In fact, theyve been friends for more than a decade now. It was in 2010 in fact that roger stone served as her strategist when she ran for governor of new york state. That was an unlikely and ultimately unsuccessful bid for governor, probably because of her notoriety of the Manhattan Madam. Interestingly as well, krirstin davis worked for roger stone. She did some clerical work for his website. During the campaign, during 2016 talked about the fact that he had talked with julian assange. Of course he later walked that back. But given that fact, Kristin Davis is of interest to the Special Counsel to shed light of what she knows of this possible interaction between roger stone and julian assange. But she did testify before the grand jury today. He was held in contempt . Rite. So Kristin Davis, she answer herd subpoena. She was here before the grand jury. Andrew miller did not. He refused to comply with that subpoena. And as a result, the judge here held him in contempt. He issued a 93page opinion about it. Whats interesting, though, is the judge actually put that Contempt Ruling on hold until monday. Thats so Andrew Millers attorneys can go through the Appeal Process here. Theyre arguing that the appointment of Special Counsel mueller in and of itself is unconstitutional, so they said just by virtue of that fact that their subpoenas shouldnt have to be complied with. So theyre in the midst of appealing that as this all goes to the process. But, yeah, Andrew Miller, an associate of roger stone, but refusing to comply with the subpoena, refusing to go before the grand jury today. There is another player and the guy who roger stone says was his wikileaks back channel has been subpoenaed to testify. Thats exactly right. Randy creditco. He is a comedian, an associate with roger stone. Its interesting because he initially rebuffed muellers request for an interview. But today hes attorney tells us he was served with a subpoena. He does plan to comply with that subpoena. The subpoena, when he is supposed to go before the grand jury, thats set for september 7th, an interesting date because just earlier this week we heard from Rudy Giuliani because he expected this entire Mueller Probe to be wrapped up by september 1st. Obviously we see this probe going full steam ahead. This particular subpoena will be answered on september 7. So obviously, anderson, the probe will not in fact be wrapped up by september 1 as giuliani had hoped for perhaps. All right. Jessica schneider, thanks very much. The end of another week at the Paul Manafort trial just outside of washington. The first big courtroom case to stem from muellers investigation. It took a while for proceedings to get under way today as the judge huddled with prosecutors and Defense Attorneys in what ultimately led to a fivehour delay. Jim chute,000 toe is there for us today. So the prosecution was on schedule to rest today before the delay. Any word on what that was all about . Listen, its a mystery, and the judge has instructed the discussions of the reason behind that delay be kept between the judge and the lawyers involved. What were really doing here is reading tea leaves, anderson, based on what the judge said after that delay. He gave instructions to the jury that said a couple of things. Said one, dont speak about this trial. Dont speak about your thoughts about this trial. And two, in his words, keep an open mind. It gives an indicator, certainly not confirmed that he one of the jurors did or said something that is outside the rules. Remember are, jurors arent allowed to talk to anybody about the case. They arent allowed to watch the news about the case, et cetera. Thats a possibility. But we just dont know because the judge is keeping those details secret. What we do know is they did eventually come back to court and dive back into things in the afternoon. It doesnt appear whatever the issue was is severe enough to stop the trial. Youve had trials go to mistrial because of misbehavior like this. They went back to it and are scheduled to be back on monday. Once it resumed suggesting his role managing the Trump Campaign helped him win millions of dollars . It is. There are a coupe. Of interesting merits to the case today. They brought in whats the importance of yankees tickets. The importance here that. Brought in someone from the yankees who testified to in their emails to this that in 2011, Paul Manafort instructed his season tickets to the yankees, were talking a couple 100,000 bucks here, these were good seats, he mailed instructions for that payment to be made from one of those many Bank Accounts in cypress that he set up for the express purpose of avoiding taxes. Whats important than is it shows that manafort was in charge of that transaction. Defense attorneys had attempted to portray rick gates as kind of the mastermind of all. This and Paul Manafort just sort of a bystander. They use that example to show, listen, he knew about these accounts and he was instructing how those funds from those accounts would be used. The other interesting case, anderson, relates to a Fraudulent Bank loan, a bank loan that manafort received with the help of a Senior Executive at the federal savings bank. Whats interesting than is that the Senior Executive later, Paul Manafort pushed for him to be secretary of the army. So question being of course was there some sort of quid pro quo there. It also shows that Paul Manafort kept some influence, or at least the appearance of influence in the Trump Administration after he left his position as chairman of the campaign. And are prosecutors on track to finish things up on monday . And any idea how long the defense might take . Do we know how many people theyre going to call . Well, on the first question, yes, it looks like it, because we did expect prosecution to wrap up today before that delay. But listen, barring any other delays or surprise issues or court issuances over the weekend, that seems to be likely, the big question for the defense, ive spoken to the Defense Attorneys a number of times. Ive asked them that very question. Of course theyre going to keep their cards close to their chest. But we do know that this judge is someone who wants to wrap this trial up in about a week or so. But its not entirely up to him. If the defense wants to keep going on an issue, hell keep going. Thanks very much. Filling in for sean hannity, both lawyers agreeing and agreeing some more they wouldnt let their client fall into what they like to call a perjury trap. Just ahead, details of what both giuliani and jay sekulow had to say. What sore back . What bum knee . Advil is relief thats fast strength that lasts youll ask. What pain . With advil agent beekman was one step ahead of them. Dits stole the lockbox from the wells fargo stagecoach, because he hid his customers gold in a different box. And the bandits, well, they got rocks. We protected your money then and were dedicated to helping protect it today. Like alerting you to certain Card Activity we find suspicious. If its not your purchase, well help you resolve it. Its a new day at wells fargo. But its a lot like our first day. 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You know, he takes this very seriously. He does have a desire to he does have a desire to explain that he is innocent, which he is. But he also understands his role as president , and that you just cant throw aside prerogatives of the presidency. Were going to make the right advice to our client. There will be no perjury trap. Ive said that. Youve said that on air. There is no perjury trap on air because were not going to allow it. No, no, no. Thats so obviously one of the things theyre trying to do, that its not easy, but we can certainly protect against that. Theyre chewing over whether the president will ultimately agree to an on thisrecord interview with Special Counsel mueller that of course is still something to be determined. With me now is michael luke casey. Judge, thanks for being with us. Do you think the president should sit down for an interview with mueller . One word answer, no. From his own standpoint, i think its a mistake. From the standpoint of evidence gathering, i think they pretty much got all the answers and all his views about what he did or didnt do. You dont think that mueller really needs the president . Correct. I think he would have to show necessity in order to compel it. Finally, there is a point to be made about the prerogatives of the presidency. All president s worry about that. The president i served under worried about that, that is complying with whether its a congressional subpoena, a congressional request, whether a request of another branch of the executive to do something. Influences what later president s can and cant do. And all president s are conscious of that. There are some who have said that it is important for mueller to talk to the president in order to understand intent, in order to get what was in thes mind. You say no. No. First of all, that is something that might be injugermane in a criminal case there isnt going to be any criminal case here. Secondly, the president has already talk about what his intent was or not. He said he didnt have the conversation with comey, if thats what were talking about. So thats a dry hole. The other thing we hear in that Radio Interview from giuliani and jay sekulow a lot is the idea of a perjury trap, that they believe they dont want to have a president in a perjury trap. One other point about what was in his mind, the firing of james comey. That was something he had the right under the constitution to do. And in any event, the obstruction of an fbi investigation is not Obstruction Of Justice within the meaning of the statute. It may sound odd, but its not. And the u. S. Attorneys manual is very clear on that. Its there is case law on that. The Instruction Issues dont cover that. Even that was his intent, which i seriously doubt, because the investigation went on that wasnt being investigated by comey in any intent, that went on. Lets play what giuliani is saying or sekulow is saying giuliani is saying about the idea of a perjury trap. Were walking him into a possible perjury trap, not because he isnt telling the truth, but because Somebody Else isnt telling the truth who they would credit, namely comey. So if he says i never had a conversation with flynn and they elect to believe comey, they can write down we believe he committed perjury, and now we have walked him into that. I mean, there is a lot of other legal analysts who say this notion of a perjury trap, if youre telling the truth, its not there is not a perjury trap. Well, not entirely. You may recall things differently. You may recall things differently. However, i dont think the question of whether he had the conversation with comey or not is really the Perjury Trap Anybody is concerned about. I think it has to do with the meeting in trump tower and whether he knew about it in advance or not. He says he didnt. There may be other people who say he did. That, i think, is the worrisome issue. Is it just that someone else says, well, he did know about it. The president says he didnt. Alan dershowitz and the attorneys for the president are seeming to imply that mueller will disagree with somebody who doesnt have the same opinion. If theres documentation, i could understand that would be obviously a concern. Right. But if the president is telling the truth and its just a he said he said, it doesnt seem like mueller is going to go just out of spite to believe Somebody Else. Its possibly somebody drafted a selfserving memo at the time saying, i told him about the meeting or some other event. You dont think, though, this notion of a perjury trap is really contingent is because of the president s, you know, look, he said many things which are not true publicly, and that they are legitimately concerned he might Say Something that is not true. Fe has said things that are not true publicly, then hes already said them, and they have proof to the contrary if they want to press it. Hes talked about millions of Illegal Immigrants voting. So who knows what hes actually going to say during that interview. Hes talked about who knows what hes going to say during the interview is not a basis for conducting the interview. You have to show a need for the evidence, and i dont i honestly dont think theres a need for it. Judge mukasey, i appreciate your time. Lets check in with chris to see what hes working on for Cuomo Prime Time at the top of the hour. A. G. Mukasey is a smart man. However youre making a good point, anderson. Dont let it go. The fact that he could freelance the president in the interview is exactly one of the main reasons they dont want him in the room with muellers men and women, because they dont know what hell say. He could freelance, and in doing so, he could misrepresent fact, truthful hyperbole, and in you do truthful hyperbole to a federal agent, its a crime. So you are making the right point. Tonight on the show were going to have the lawyer for one of roger stones assistants. Why did he not want to comply with a subpoena . Is he hiding something, or is he trying to expose something . Were fortunate enough to have his attorney on to make the case and test it. And were going to do the same thing with this new Tax Provision that the Trump Administration says they dont need congress for. Odd when obviously taxation is one of Congress Main constitutional roles. And guess who it benefits . Donald trump and people like him. Is that what we need . Were going to talk about it with marc short, one of the architects of the plan. The Closing Argument is about why the president is calling out protesters but not the ones headed to charlottesville this weekend. Yeah. Chris, thank you. 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Reporter the raging wildfires in Southern California are spreading from these remote cliffs to the edges of hillside communities. The holy fire has forced more than 21,000 people to evacuate. While some are making a lastditch effort to save their homes. Come on, lets go anybody else in the house . No, nobodys here. Reporter Long Beach Police officer josh castro captured these images of The Holy Fire burning just beyond his yard. Tricky Wind Patterns are creating the socalled elsinore front, racing uphill one moment, downhill the next. Pushing flames within feet of these homes. Firefighters continue to battle the flames aggressively. In this fire fight, its hard to believe none of these homes were lost. Firefighters managed to contain the flames. My heart was pounding, and i was screaming for joy that theyre here just doing that for us here. Reporter Authorities Say this fire was intentional, allegedly started by Forrest Gordon clark, who is now under arrest and charged with felony arson. Bail has been set at 1 million. May i pay for that immediately . I can handle a million right now easily. Reporter clark appeared before an Orange County judge today. Mr. Clark is charged in several counts involving arson, aggravated arson. Its a lie. Criminal threats. These are just allegations, sir. Reporter Volunteer Fire Chief Mike Milligan has known clark for decades and even showed us a message he says clark texted him just two weeks ago. Its all going to burn just like you planned, it read. Milligan has lived here for 50 years and says clarks home was one of the only ones in the community that didnt burn to the ground. I know going up there is hard for you. Yeah, sure it is. Why is it so hard . I know these people. I know the families. I know what has happened here. So, you know, when your friends lose their home, that has an effect on everybody. Reporter The Holy Fire is just one of 15 major Fires Responders are actively battling across california. So far these fires have charred more than 670,000 acres and damaged or destroyed more than 2,000 structures. And with hot and dry conditions favoring the fires, it could be another month before these fires are contained. And keep in mind, anderson, that 670,000 acres that were talking about burning here in the state of california, thats more than the land mass of rhode island. Thats how much has been burned here. If you look behind me, before we came to talk to you, you could see the flames. But then the winds changed directions very quickly. Im talking about within like five minutes. Its incredible. Now its coming at us. We have to wear these goggles because the ashes coming off of there so fast, the winds are speeding up so much right now. This is the problem every afternoon here. And theres No End In Sight right now. Theyre expecting these red flag warnings to continue. Stephanie, thank you. Stay safe. The news continues. Thank you, anderson. I am chris cuomo. Welcome to Cuomo Prime Time. A roger stone confidant is facing a Contempt Charge in the Special Counsel probe. Is this about hiding the truth . His lawyer says, no, its about exposing it. Hes here to make the case to you. And looks like trump wants to give himself another tax cut. A rule that is good for him and people like him, not so good for

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