Well, the question this hour, did russian money flow into the 2016 Trump Campaign . Cnn has learned special Counsel Robert Mueller wants to find out and has been making aggressive moves to find out. Explain what youve learned about what mueller has been doing. Well, anderson, what weve learned so far is that muellers team is now targeting certain russian oligarchs and theyve actually stopped two of them when theyve landed in the u. S. On their private planes recently, in the past month. And for one of those oligarchs, muellers team had asked them for questions and also had searched one of their Electronic Devices. The other oligarch was also stopped, and weve also learned that one other oligarch, who is in russia, was asked to provide voluntarily documents and give an interview to special counsel muellers team. Were not sure if hes going to do that, but we do know now that as part of this investigation into whether russia meddled in the election and if there was any collusion with the Trump Campaign, muellers team is now tracing the money that came into the campaign through some of these oligarchs and asking these questions. So its illegal for foreign nationals to donate money to u. S. Political campaigns. How would they have potentially gotten around that . So we understand that muellers team is asking questions around two different ways that money could be hidden or funneled through intermediaries into the campaign. One of them, sources tell us, is that muellers team is looking at whether there were straw donors or american citizen whos can properly contribute to campaigns, but to see if any russian money came in through them. Another avenue that muellers team is pursue, sources tell us, is looking to see if russians made investments into corporations or donated to think tanks. And those corporations and think tanks then donated through a Political Action committee into the campaign or inauguration fund. Both ways would enable there to be layers between the source of the money and the donations, and we understand that muellers team is now asking questions about that. And muellers approach with russian oligarchs recently, explain what it tells us about or what we can discern about the investigation itself from that. One source said this could be the, quote, wish also. Muellers team has probably already gone through various documents, bank records, account statements that they have jurisdiction over in the u. S. And now stopping the russians is a chance to see what more they can learn from the other end of the money flows, if it did in fact go to these individuals. Experts ive talked to have said this is a real strategy that prosecutors use. You know, they want to catch people off guard. They want the element of surprise, and they want to try to get the truthful off the cuff answers, not something thats been more rehearsed or lawyered. It also gives them an opportunity to search Electronic Devices such as cell phones before they can be wiped of any potential evidence. Cara skinle, appreciate the reporting. Very much. Few people are better equipped to talk about this than cnns senior legal analyst preet bharara, former u. S. Attorney for the Southern District of new york. Preet, the idea that muellers team is having the fbi search russian oligarchs traveling into the United States. What does that tell new. It tells me the mueller team is very serious, it has something that is causing them to take these significant and aggressive steps. Its telling me and should tell everyone the investigation shouldnt stop at waters edge. They cant go into russia and interview people they would like, who may have been involved in affecting the election in an unlawful way, but they can lie in wait a. Its something prosecutors have been doing for a long time. Oligarchs should now appreciate that they travel a little bit at their own peril. Would they also have the capabilities of reaching out to oligarchs traveling in Great Britain . A lot of russians go there. You would be hoping that our allies and our Law Enforcement partners around the world, particularly in friendly countries, are coordinating with our own Law Enforcement and assisting us in various ways in allowing us access to people who they, themselves, might be requested to conduct interviews that are significant to an investigation going on here. I dont know what kind of arrangements have been reached, but thats a normal thing that happens, and it happened during the time i was u. S. Attorney as well. Which part of muellers case do you think this could fit into . Could he be trying to establish some sort of quid pro quo here . It looks like it. I think people understand there are two major components, it looks like, the mueller team is focusing on. One is obstruction, obstructionrelated issues. And the other is whether or not people conspired in some way against the laws of the United States to affect the election. So this looks like the oligarch interviewing looks like its talking about the second component because if it turns out that oligarchs or anyone else, whatever you want to describe them as, had contributed to campaigns unlawfully, and that would be unlawful by definition, then muellers going to be looking at it. In todays press briefing, Sarah Sanders was asked about whether the president would sit for an interview with muellers team. I just want to show our viewers what she said. Okay. The president is working in congress juncti conjunction with his legal team and making a determination. Id refer you to them on anything specific regarding that matter. Were continuing to be fully cooperative with the office of the special counsel, and well continue driving the same message that weve been driving for over a year, that there was no collusion. Obviously the president a couple months ago or maybe a couple weeks ago said that he would be willing to testify under oath. I mean as an attorney, do you think he should sit for an interview because yesterday, you know, we learned that according to the reporting, mueller views him as a subject, not as a target. But that can also change. Look, being a subject of an investigation is a very serious thing. It means that you are under investigation. It means at any moment you can convert yourself into a target of the investigation. By the way, some occasions weve seen in the past and it includes Martha Stewart and some other less infamous cases as well, that the thing that got someone in trouble was having been a subject coming in and lying to the government, lying to fbi agents, caused them to be charged. As weve seen in the Mueller Investigation so far, including with respect to the person who just got sentenced this week to 30 days in prison, it is a serious matter to lie to the fbi, that bob mueller will charge people who engage in that conduct, in lying to the agents. So its a big deal. If youre asking me, you know, as a lawyer generally speaking, do i want the president to sit down for an interview . I would say yes, and i think that most of the public would want that because he can clear things up. He can explain both to the investigators and for purposes of showing that he has nothing to hide. Its a good thing politically and for transparency for him to come forward. If i were his lawyer, i probably would take a similar tack to some of the things weve been told hes been advised, that its a very precarious and treacherous thing, particularly for somebody whos not given to telling the truth in a lot of contexts. Appreciate it. Thanks. Well, the president tonight signed a memorandum for using National Guard units to help secure the southern border. We have details of the deployment although they remain kind of fuzzy coming so soon after the president called for troops. In fact, all day the white house has been scrambling to build policy on the fly to try to fit the president s statements, that or actually walk back some other remarks on tariffs and pulling troops out of syria. The question about all of it, is this any way to run the white house. Perspective now from Fareed Zakaria and james fal los. Fareed, the fact this administration either has to play catchup with what the president has said or try to shape policy from off the cuff statements or walk back large parts of them, its got to make the already difficult process of governing that much more complicated. Its very strange. Theres a kind of almost bizarre incompetence to the way in which the administration proceeds. So if you remember they start out with a travel ban that they then have to walk back because its clear its not going to meet legal scrutiny and courts are going to start dialing it back. Same thing with the steel tariffs. They announced tariffs on steel. China is not a particularly large exporter of steel, so they then have to give exemptions to twothirds of the countries that export steel to the United States. You know, with Something Like the border wall, the troops on the wall, its not clear what will actually happen. President trump says troops are going to return from syria and Start Building rebuilding america. I dont know if he realizes the troops in syria are special force troops, are highly unlikely to be very good at building bridges or digging ditches in the United States. And with all of that, its all perfectly predictable. I wonder if its getting worse, anderson, because you have gary cohn has left. Mcmaster has left. A lot of the socalled grownups have left. But this has been a puzzling incompetence because many of these things were perfectly predictable. James, its not just people in the white house, you know, who are surprised by this and who have to, you know, be careful what they say because theyre not sure if the president s going to contradict them. I mean after a time, just the American Public stops believing in things the president is saying. Fareed said this last night, that the president s words are at risk of becoming kind of weight weightless. There is a predictable surprise for everybody who enters the oval office and probably more so for donald trump than anybody else given his lack of experience is theres only so much the president can do just by saying, make it so. The other 90 of what a president accomplishes is by persuading people, persuading people in the congress, persuading the public, persuading overseas leaders that its in their interest to go in the direction the president wants to lay out. So it is a huge advantage in that if you know which direction the president is going. With ronald reagan, he didnt know a lot of the details, but everybody knew where he was going. Overseas allies and domestic legislators as well. With trump, his domestic allies in the congress, theyve decided whatever he is for, theyre for, even if its different six hours ago from what it is right now. But for International Leaders, it becomes really difficult because they dont know if they take some risk to side with one of his policies, is he going to change his mind the next day . So that becomes you know, it has the effect youre mentioning of sort of making the public lose trust in what he says, but also internationally it decreases this effect of whether a president can have people follow in the direction he wants to go. Well, fareed, to jims point, the effect of this not just in the u. S. But on the allies of the u. S. , it can actually have real consequences on the ground if our allies start to doubt, well, wait a minute, are we committed to a place, are we not . Do we listen to what the president is saying or what military personnel on the ground are saying . If you think about almost all the big Foreign Policy challenges the administration faces, i think it would be fair to say that our allies must be wondering what exactly is american policy on russia. You know, is the United States getting tougher on russia, or is there some doubt on that . On iran, is the United States actually going to tear up the iran deal as President Trump says . On north korea, initially he said i will never talk to these guys as a reward for this buildup. In fact, im going to, you know, blow them out of the water and rain fire and fury on them. Then he says, no, no, no. Im going to meet with them and have a deal. So in each of these cases, you can imagine a country like japan, for example, that has a very strong, tough, antinorth korea stand. Are they going to take the Political Risk is Prime Minister abe going to take the risk of softening that stand because he thinks that trump is going to move in that direction and theyre going to be coordinated, only to find hes out on a limb and trump has backtracked. This has happened time and time again. Traveling abroad, this is the biggest problem most countries have. Theyre almost happy with any american policy in the sense that as long as its consistent and they can figure it out, they will adapt to it. What they dont understand is should they pay a political price for something that will change tomorrow. You know, james, you mentioned president reagan and that he may not have known some of the details or get into the weeds on policy. But a president like reagan and frankly just about any president is protected normally by, you know, layers of people around him, by people who vet speeches, by just sort of the weight of the office and not being exposed constantly. This is a president who exposes himself constantly through twitter or, you know, Large Campaign events which he seems to enjoy and his staff encourages him to do. And while his supporters say, you know, its great that hes able to communicate directly with the American People, the cost of that is hes able to communicate directly with the American People on anything that enters his head, and it often turns out to be things which are just not true, factually incorrect, or are not actually going to be policy executed by the white house or congress. Yes. And you see this. You see a clearer and clearer distincti distinction or manifestation of the difference between being a popular character, especially a tv character, a reality show character, a Pro Wrestling character, where unpredictable, suspense, whats going to happen tonight is different from all the previous nights. Those things are all great for a character on tv and some of trumps personal popularity which is buoyed by that, and the very different job of being an International Leader where predictability, steadfastness, being able to say this is the direction were going. Five years from now, were going to be in that place, so please come with us step by step by step. Often the things that you are required for effectiveness, especially internationally, are dull and boring and make for predictable speeches and things that are not like Pro Wrestling and not like being on a reality show. And that tension between the personal popularity tv character aspect of this job, which donald trump enjoys and still is playing up, and the job of leading, especially internationally, i think were seeing the contrast between those more and more starkly. Thanks very much. Coming up next, more on the border, on the wall that the president wants built, include the question about the building of it. The white house cannot seem to answer and failed again to answer today. Later theres new reporting as well on wikileaks founder Julian Assange and roger stone who warned about devastating wikileaks disclosures during the campaign. Allergies with sinus congestion and pressure . 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Well be taking strong action today. Joining is us today is leanne rodriguez, former director of the u. S. Citizenship and immigration services. Back this hour as well is former Trump Campaign adviser steve cort cortez. This news that the National Guard troops are going to the border, both president bushes and barack obama did that in two operations. It cost a total of more than 1. 3 billion. Is this any different, or do you see this as the same idea . No. I mean this is different in the sense that the amount of activity headed toward the border is actually substantially less than it was. The highest it was was under president bush, somewhat less under president obama, a lot less now. So it is different in that respect. Its also important to understand that the work that the National Guard would do, at least if you follow history is a purely supportive role. The responsibility here remains that of the u. S. Border patrol. The other thing i would add is what you are seeing in mexico this weekend is really the face of a simmering humanitarian crisis. These folks are saying no matter how much interdiction you have, we need help. There is Gang Violence in our countries. There is poverty, and were going to keep being visible until there really is a more comprehensive solution to our situation. Steve, i mean secretary nielsen was asked today why the urgency, and i guess ill ask you that. What about that . Just from a logistical standpoint, why rush this now . Critics of the president say this has a lot to do with criticisms hes received from former supporters of his or even from his base, concerns that hes soft on immigration, illegal immigration. Sure. Well, listen, the president has certainly not been soft on the border. I think this is part of a commonsense strategy and one which he telegraphed and promised in 2016 and is following through on. I have enormous empathy for people who are fleeing terrible situations in latin america. My own father fled just such a situation of violence and a lack of opportunity in latin america. But he also did it legally, and that is the major and, to me, the primary caveat that must be recognized here. No one has a right no one has a right to enter our country without permission just as no one has a right to enter our homes, our places of businesses without permission. We will literally protect the border with the military if necessary, and through the National Guard, to show the world that while we are a nation of immigrants and we love immigration, we are not a lawless nation that will allow illegal immigration to become its own force. Right. But, steve, the question the question really, though, is this about politics, the fact that the president is doing it now. Under george w. Bush, my understanding is, you know, this was a stopgap measure in order to, while they were trying to hire up more border officers, they were using National Guard to fill more clerical duties that would free up other Border Agents to actually work on the border. It does i mean to you, is this about politics at all, as some have said . You know, listen, sure. I think it matters politically in that hes delivering on a political promise. I think that does matter, and i think its also about politics because the congress refused to recognize the will of the people, who elected trump knowing that a foundational promise of his campaign was to build a border wall. They gave him 1. 6 billion instead of 25 billion, which is what he requested. I think this is his way to say in the meantime, before we build the full wall that we should build, in the meantime, the wall is going to become a human wall, and its going to be a wall of guardsmen and military. Leon, its not actually going to be a wall of guardsmen and military as steve just said. The president talked about the military guarding the border. U. S. Army, the marines are not going to be Standing Shoulder to shoulder on the border with weapons drawn, facing the mexican border. Its going to be National Guard troops. Again, isnt it going to be mostly sort of organizational duties . It is. Its going to be some air surveillance. Its going to be some activity in assisting and processing people. Look, at the end of the day, the responsibility here remains that of the u. S. Border patrol. Their numbers have grown yearoveryear since the early 2000s. You know, there is tremendous logistical resources that they already have in terms of their ability to conduct surveillance at the border. So i think its hard to believe that this you know, that the National Guard would particularly change the equation here. Its certainly dramatic. Its certainly, you know, to those who perceive whether, you know, based in fact or not, that there is lack of enforcement at our border, i suppose this is satisfying. But if you really look at it operationally, this is really not a particular change. But, leon, when you say we perceive this, thats just dishonest. There are literally a thousand people a day roughly arrested crossing our border illegally. And how many more who arent aress arrest arrested, who make it through. This isnt a perception issue. This is the reality on a ground. There is a soft invasion going on in the United States that we have tolerated for decades in this country. But, steve, you do argue [ overlapping voices ] you need to look over decades because the fact is that the traffic has been diminishing consistently over decades. So if you look at where we were in 2000, 2001, 2002, we were talking about much higher levels of apprehension with less steve, also hasnt the Trump Administration rightfully pointed out that actually the percentage of people crossing the border illegally has dropped by as much as 60 . So on the one hand, they are claiming and i think for good reason credit for having a dramatic drop in numbers under the President Trump administration and at the same time now claiming that theres this army of people coming across. Its a national emergency, and that there is enemy combatants coming across, which have you seen any evidence of enemy combatants, of al qaeda and the cal i ban co taliban coming across the southern border in. Im not calling them combatants. Someone who comes into your home or your country without permission is an invader. Theres no other proper term to describe but you admit the numbers have drastically reduced. The numbers were dropping dramatically in 2017, and i think that was a great testimony to President Trump and his fortitude in terms of reinforcing the border. However, theyve been rising lately, and i think the reason theyve been rising lately is because now these people who respond very well to incentives have decided or have determined that President Trump didnt get what he wanted. He didnt get the kind of border wall he wants. He didnt get the kind of law changes that he wanted. And so theyre showing up. By the way, theyre being far more skillful in manipulating our process. What i mean by that is many of them now are claiming asylum status whereas that was a very minuscule number in times past. So theyre getting smarter about it. Leon, i want you to respond. Theyre not i mean theyre not merely responding to incentives. What theyre responding to is desperate situations in their country. Enforcement is a tool. Our immigration laws need to be respected. But until we have a comprehensive solution, a hemispheric solution who whats going on in these countries in terms of poverty and Gang Violence, this is going to keep coming. I dont care how many National Guard troops you send to the border or how high a wall you build, the actual pushes and pulls of migration need to be addressed. Its not simply an enforcement issue. All right. Leon rodriguez, steve cortes, thank you. Coming up next, a look at President Trump and his die hard plig base. Why does he feel the need to play so strongly to his supporters . Well show you that ahead. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things vo theyre getting by starting with miraclegro potting mix and plant food. Together, guaranteed to produce three times the harvest. More to enjoy. To share. Three times the harvest. One powerful guarantee. Miraclegro. 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No doubt trump has a personal beef with amazon founder jeff bezos, who also owns the washington post. But trump, in going after amazon, is also defending brick and mortar retailers, which he says are getting squeezed squl. You look at some of these small towns where they had a beautiful main street with stores. The stores are all gone. Reporter those retailers in many cases, mom and pop shops, part of what donald trump sees as his base. His effort to keep his supporters in Middle America and elsewhere happy may explain some of his recent rhetoric about tariffs too, sounding more like he did during the campaign. China is upset because of the way donald trump is talking about trade with china. Theyre ripping us off, folks. Its time. Reporter trumps move to slap tariffs on china was a nod to his base. But less than 24 hours after the white house unveiled a list of chinese imports they plan to target for unfair trade practices, china slapped its own tariffs on the United States, targeting agriculture exports from u. S. Farm belt states like soybean, corn, wheat, and beef. Now farmers who largely supported trump could get hurt. Still, trumps top economic adviser hinted that in the end, there may be no tariffs at all. I doubt if there will be any concrete actions for several months. Well see how that plays out. Nothing concrete has actually happened. These are proposals. Reporter and what about immigration . After a toughtalking campaign and deciding to end the daca program last year, the president started to sound as if he were willing to cross the aisle on immigration issues. In january, even calling for a bipartisan, quote, bill of love to protect dreamers. The hundreds of thousands of young people brought here illegally. But now once again is taking a harder stance. The president on a tear about weak laws and porous borders, stoking fears for the upcoming midterms like he did during the campaign. In a tweet, the president announced no more daca deal. The president has been very clear, put multiple proposals on the table to fix the problem, and democrats have not been willing to take a deal that was actually a really good deal and went much further than the previous administration. Reporter and those National Guard troops the president plans to send to help shore up the southern border with mexico, Border Security is an issue that won him lots of support during the campaign, and hes playing to that base again. It will be strong. It will be add many as is needed to fill the gaps. Reporter promises in the year 2018 that sound a lot like 2016. Randi kaye, cnn, new york. Joining me now is Kirsten Powers and paris dennard. Kirsten, do you see any kind of strategy from the president here . Well, we can only judge on his actions. We dont know whats going on in his head. But it seems pretty obvious that he is trying to hes tailoring these tweets to his base. We know that. We know theres a Midterm Election coming up where the republicans stand to not do very well, which is typical in a firstterm Midterm Election, but it looks like it may be even worse than i think some people expected. And so he needs to gin up the base. Theres a huge Enthusiasm Gap between the democrats and the republicans, and he also just signed a bill that has a lot of his supporters very, very unhappy. So it would certainly make sense for that to be the strategy. Paris, do you see this about ginning up the base . He has received criticism from the right, people like ann coulter hitting him pretty hard for, you know, not getting wall funding, and sources say that criticism has, quote, rattled him. You know, anderson, i think the president understands that he ran on a winning message, which is a make America Great again message. And a lot of things he has been tweeting about and some of the things that have come out through these executive orders and president ial actions have been things that he campaigned on that the American People or we should say those that voted for him really supported and want to see him make good on his Campaign Promises because when you move from a campaign, you go to governing. And hes realizing that when you are president , you cant just do everything on your own. You have to work with the congress, and in many instances, i think he feels rightfully so that the congress has let him down, and has let down the people that he said in his inaugural address he was going to be there. He wasnt going to forget about them. So these issues, his base, the issues that the American People that voted for him care about, curbing illegal immigration, Border Security, Small Businesses and supporting have a robust economy, these are things they care about, and i think hes smart enough to know with a Midterm Election coming up, he wants to give some wins on the board for the republicans to go and campaign on. And while he may not be as popular as people want here in the beltway or here in washington, d. C. , back home in a lot of these districts where these members are running, there are places where he is very popular. And if not the president thats very popular, his message and his policies are very popular. So, kirsten, i mean moving troops, moving National Guard forces to the border as george w. Bush did when they were trying to hire more border officers, as president obama as well, i mean is that really about politics for this president . Well, i mean i think its something he probably believes needs to happen regardless of politics. But, look, he did have an opportunity to lead. Paris, youre going through all these Different Things that people are disappointed about. He could have struck a deal and gotten a wall. I mean the democrats were willing to give him the funding for the wall, something that they absolutely hate, that they dont support, that they dont think we need, that they think its a waste of money, that they think its offensive. But they were willing to do it. But instead he then loaded up, you know, the bill with all these other requests that they couldnt agree to. And so no, they could agree to. They just chose not to. No. This is how it works. You dont get everything that you want. If you get people to agree to something that their party is vehemently opposed to, you then cannot say, in addition to that, i want you to add in all these other things. Thats just not how deal making works, and i think that donald trump certainly should know that. The point is he wasnt able to make a deal, and thats why hes in trouble. So i think, yeah, he can try and do a lot of Different Things. But i think when youve lost ann coulter, you know, youre kind of in trouble. You know, she was one of his biggest supporters, and if shes turning on im, i dont think that bodes well for him. The president is not in trouble. Weve seen recent polls that show that his poll numbers are going up. Weve seen a congressman who is running for the senate put on a make America Great again hat to show his undying support for the president. The president is not in trouble. What he is concerned about is the things that he puts on the table that the congress is not able to work. If he puts out a deal and they choose not to accept it, thats their fault for not making a deal. If the president put out some positive deals, and they chose not to accept them. Appreciate it. 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What did you and your Team Discover about this time line and explain just the significance of it. Okay. So this is roger stone on the alex jones show. He was on there on august 4th of 2016. Now its significant because this is the same day on which he sent that email claiming in which he had dined with Julian Assange. Now, whats equally very interesting about it is in the appearance, stone said that devastating wikileaks were going to be coming out on hillary clinton, and he also claimed he had spoken to donald trump basically that same day. So he would have spoken to trump the same day or night in which he claimeding dinner with assange. So having those two things connected raises a lot of questions about his relationship with wikileaks. Has roger stone responded to cnn about your findings . So i emailed with mr. Stone a little bit. He says that he was traveling from l. A. To miami on the date in question. He actually says that in the interview with alex jones as well. 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At t, not so much. We give you 75 mbps for 59. 95. Thats more speed than at ts comparable bundle, for less. Call today. Bells rang out this evening across the country marking the devastating moment in American History 50 years ago on this day in 1968. Martin luther king jr. Was assassinated. Here was the scene at the king center in atlanta this evening. [ bells ringing ] the bell rang 39 times, symbolizing dr. Kings age when he was assassinated at the Lorraine Motel in memphis. At that site now home to the National Civil rights museum, there was a day long tribute honoring his life and his legacy. Joining me now is dr. Cornell west. Dr. West, thanks so much for being with us on this, the 50th anniversary of this assassination. Its so interesting how history changes the way somebody is perceived, and its very easy this with dr. King, his legacy, i mean his life is probably so different and his message is so different than sort of a sanitized version of it which has become kind of the common way hes seen today. Yeah, i think were reaching the conclusion that Martin Luther king jr. Was an extremist whether it came to love. Extremist when it came to justice. And what that meant was that he was willing to tell the truth. Truth is always to allow suffering to speak. He comes from a people who have been terrorized, traumatized and hated for 400 years. He taught the world so much about love and connected at the justice. Unbelievable level of courage and vision. But its a sad day. Its a very tough day. Its a sober day. Because something died in all of us who are concerned about each other. When you think about brother martin shot down like a dog there outside of room 306 in the Lorraine Hotel in memphis. The important thing is that Martin Luther king jr. , he loved you. He loved me. He loved muslims, mexicans. He loved palestinians and jews. He loved roma. He was a love warrior. He was an interlekt youll and love warrior. Yet, that message today, i wonder how it would be perceived particularly this political moment in our history. Its very easy to embrace him now that hes not here and not speaking about issues which probably would alienate a lot of people. The beautiful thing is you have the poor peoples campaign. You got the reverend katie lat there in seattle. You got father flager in claug. You have thomas in los angeles. There is a wave of people who are keeping his legacy alive in a variety of different context. You have progressive rabbis, progressive ministers and temples and muslim mosque and so forth. And especially among the young people. There is a marvelous new mill tan militancy in kentucky and oakland keeping alive his legacy. And most importantly, you have the critics of the empire. You have those keeping track of the bombs, keeping track of the wars, keeping track of the house raids and detentions. Martin luther king jr. Had a love supreme. He was concerned about every race. A vietnamese baby had the same value as a black baby or a red baby on the reservation or a white baby in connecticut or porkland high in florida. Thats the kind of person that he was. He was a free black man. He was a christian minister. He was a spiritual giant. But he was still not perfect. He was not pure. He was human like me. He was human like you. But he decided to be a love warrior. Not just a polished politician. Thats that neoliberal talk about being smart. No. Smartness was not enough. He wanted wisdom and courage and most importantly, he was willing to pay a cost. He was willing to go to the edge of lifes abyss to step out on nothing and land on something and what he landed on was a legacy that passed on to the younger generation. Well see. Because his after life will be manifest in the kind of lives we live. Not the super efficiently lip service or pretentious posturing but who is willing to live and who is willing to die for justice. He said something to the i infect effect of he would rather die than live in fear. To be willing to die rather than live in fear, thats an extraordinary thing. I think for most of us, you know, thats not a decision i think a lot of people are willing to make. No, but brother martin said id rather be dead than afraid. Thats why he said most people dont understand who i am. They dont understand my calling. They dont understand my commitment. As a christian, hes willing to live in the world and not of it. He was willing to learn how to die every day by calling himself into question to be reborn into a better person and to be willing to give of himself. Hes like al green though, brother. At the end of an al green concert, he is about to collapse because he gives of himself. He empties himself. Martin luther king jr. Emptied himself whether he was in that coffin. He had the body of a 65yearold just like charlie parker. Why . Because he gave everything, the gifts that he had, he cultivated. And he gave it back in terms of his intellectual work, moral work, spiritual work and christian witness. And unfortunately in the age of neofacist stirrings and hungary and poland and the white house and kenya and other places that that kind of love and justice is pushed to the margins. But it is coming back. There is a spiritual and moral awakening in this nation and around the world. And many of us are willing to go down swinging to stay on that love train, to stay on that justice train and make sure that we put a smile on the face of brother martin from the grave. Well never forget him, fanny lou hama, he willa baker, rabbi abraham, edward zied. Theyre a cloud of witnesses. And its a beautiful thing to be a part of that cloud. And brother martin, hes at the center of it. Usually get in a cold train reference. You did get in an al green reference cwhich i love and appreciate. Dr. West, always a pleasure. Love you, brother. Stay strong now. Thank you. Well be right back. With tmobile, get the Fastest Network ever, now on the fasters samsung ever. Because fast should be fast. Now at tmobile, buy one Samsung Galaxy s9 and get one free. Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things withwhat sore back . Sk. What bum knee . Advil is relief thats fast strength that lasts youll ask. What pain . With advil so we know how to cover almost weve anything. St everything even close claws. [driver] so, we took your shortcut, which was a bad idea. [cougar growling] [passenger] what are you doing . [driver] i cant believe that worked. I dropped the keys. [burke] and we covered it. 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