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allegations came to light from two exwives. The white house spun the account of what they knew that was inaccurate. Then the parkland tragedy pushed it out of the headlines until general kelly brought it back today revisiting his handling in the scandal, according to cnn left white house staffers stunned, puzzled, or saying that general kelly is not telling the truth. He said he learned of, quote, a Series Accusation of Porter On February 6th when the daily mail began asking the white house for the reaction to the story they were about to run. This was early that evening. Kelly then said, quote, we pout a statement of support for him and hour later found out theres a second report. They stuck with that through the following day even though they knew who the daily mail. Com about the allegations of physical abuse by both women. Here is jenny willoghby described it. Perhaps the first and only physical abuse i suffered. After an argument we were yelling had become the norm in our marriage, and i removed myself from the situation to take a shower. To cool down. Disengage from the situation. He came to the shower and opened the door and pulled me out to continue yelling at me. He put his hands on you and continued yelling at you . Yeah. Was that a startling moment for you . I think up until that moment, i didnt realize that i was in an abusive marriage. I think that sounds almost
ridiculous coming out of my mouth given how i can speak about it and remember things now, but i dont know it was until that moment that i realized i was with a man who was capable of Something Like that. Keeping it modest. Our reporting is that general kelly and two others were told in november of last year about Domestici Domestic Issues and the fbi Background Check was last july. Porter never got a full clearance. We talked about that with jenny as well as the importance of credible allegations being taken seriously. The white house wont answer what general kelly knew when he knew it. To what extent he knew about the reports, the allegations that both of you had made. Theres a new statement out from general kelly he said he was shocked by the new allegations and theres no place for domestic violence. Is it important to you that somebody like general kelly believes your story . Its important to me in general that anyone who is coming forward with the story like that is believed upfront. That its not on the burden of proof for me or anyone else to justify the claims. And that the conversation around abuse or assault or even missong any in general doesnt turn, well, hes really great could it be shes exaggerating or not telling the truth or its not as bad as theyre making it out to be. Because theres very little evidence that any woman would bring that kind of scrutiny upon themselves to share these types of details. I didnt ask for this. I wouldnt never have shared these types of details as publicly if the media hadnt come to me with this moment to do that. Jenny put out a statement late
i told them that dailymail. Com determined that porter had grabbed his wife by the shoulders and yanked her out of the shower naked. We told them the date that happened. I explained how we were going to report at dailymail. Com he punched the window out on their front door when she threatened to call the police because he was violating the Separation Agreement by being in the apartment. We told them about the temporary Restraining Order she filed. That she was walking on egg shells throughout her honey hoon. Honeymoon. Even she miscarried a pregnancy of six weeks because of the stress of being around porter. The idea that consisted of Emotional Abuse doesnt trap. There was physical abuse there. And one other correction, anderson. We didnt tell the white house about the first wife until the next morning. The idea that john kelly heard an hour after i came into saras
office. That no makes sense to me. Daily mail. Com is doing the reporting. I didnt tell them about the second story until the following morning. Just to be clear, theres no way they could have misunderstood what you were sharing with them. I mean, you mentioned not only the yanking out of the shower, but also the fact there had been an order of protection that had been filed. Right. Yeah. And sara, you know, to her credit, took notes during the meeting. I think she had a clear idea of what was going on. What is curious to me is the evolution of the statements from john kelly. At 7 00 when we were ready to pull the trigger on the story, they sent, you know, me an email and i forwarded it to my editor and we ran this with john kellys glowing statement. And a denial from porter. By the next day, after we had run the second story with the black eye photo, sara still read that same glowing statement from
john kelly at the podium in the Briefing Roof before announcing he resigned. This is all curious. And, you know, general kelly is saying that porter resigned his job to him that tuesday before the first story ran. But the story that we ran carried a statement from him saying in the present tense that im proud to work with him. Right. I noticed that. Implying he was still working there. It was in the present tense. When Chief Of Staff kelly today said he had been told about socalled Emotional Abuse. Does that make any sense . Not unless Sara Huckabee sanders was keeping facts from john kelly. This is career suicide. This is a man who worked for john kelly. We know from our reporting and you confirmed it, as well, at cnn. That the fbi gave kelly a deep dive into Rob Porter In November of last year. We know from what chris ray said on the hill that both of the exwives had spoken to the fbi about this earlier in 2017. Didnt know about the physical abuse. That doesnt make sense. Right. I mean, your last point gets to the question. If daily mail. Com hadnt done this reporting, would this the actions, you know, have been taken that were taken . Unyou dont know the answer. Its hard to know. All we know is by the next day they were supporting him from the podium. And it took general kelly, i think, about 14 hours after we ran the story with the black eye photos for him to issue a second statement and condemn domestic abuse. And the day after that, the president was saying in the oval office that rob porter was the one. Lets get perspective on this now joining us this former Trump White House lawyer drew schultz and kristy quinn and president of women in need. And former colleague of general
kellys. He survived this. Hes voluntarily waded back into it. Yeah. I dont get why he raised it again today for the pr political perspective why he would go out of his way today to raise this again. I think you accurately stated that earlier. And i also think its undisputable. Theres holes and discrepancies in the story. No question. Christine, do you belief the Chief Of Staff has credibility when it cops to what he knew about rob porter and when . There seems like there have been so many stories from the white house and kelly. Theres no credibility left here. Weve seen everything hes laid out today just be refuted and every time line and day just over and over has proved to be incorrect. I think the question everyone asks is why did general Kelly Rebring this up tonight . And, you know, the only really thing i can think of is that he just doesnt think its that series. He doesnt think its a topic
he did acknowledge the issue that this was not their finest hour. No question. I think he was talking about the white house staff in general, though. General, this would be a problem for any Chief Of Staff. But for a general who brought in to instill order and better standards and make the trains an run on time in the west wing. Im wondering how to reflects on his judgment and leadership. Anderson, what i would say, first of all, you cant excuse what happened in the situation. You can attempt to explain it. Thats what john kelly was attempting to do today. What ill tell you is guys like kelly reach the senior levels of leadership and the military. We have a lot of cases that come to us from either our staff, Judge Advocate or Chief Of Staff saying we got an individual in the command who has done this. You know even if its someone close to you, which i had experience with, you stop saying anything about that individual until you get the full facts. Its the old, you know, first
reports are always wrong. They may be but you better check it out. Ive been listening to the guests tonight and theyve been talking about this as it was an isolated incident in terms of what was going on. Remember, you know, john kelly is a marine. He wants to instill discipline and processes and systems to the white house. And it is a dysfunctional organization with a lot of brief floating electrons. In is probably about a million things hes handling. Its the most complexing and unbelievably difficult problems hes trying to handle. So, again, thats not an excuse but its one of the things where, you know, as a military guy, you had a Staff Security officer, the White House Security office. You say get those Security Clearances done. Fix them or tell me what is wrong. In this case, i think there was a tell in john kellys Statement Today to the press when he said i had multiple Spread Sheets of people without Security Clearances. That tells me hes probably pulling his hair out because
hes got so many problems to with. This is just another one while hes trying to help with daca, tax reform, gays in the military and Everything Else that the president is tweeting about or driving in terms of what hes doing as the Chief Of Staff. So we cant look at this as a vacuum. Its inexcusable. Dont get me wrong. You can try to explain it by so many things on the plate. I dont understand why he went out today and brought an old story into the news. Thats not smart. Anderson the president did the right thing here. In putting john kelly in charge. And i think thats worth noting here. The white house is getting on the right track as it pertains to Security Clearances and reforming the process going forward. Yeah. If it its one of a million things in charge of. When youre a Chief Of Staff used to military operations. Youre used to the organization doing routine things. Routinely. The white house hasnt shown that yet. It you tell me john kelly, the Chief Of Staff of the white house is in charge of Security Clearances, he may be overwatching them and demanding they get fixed, but im concerned about why it took so long to get status and updates when he seemed to have known what the problems were. Right. And thats the question. And with all due respect to the general, i think you probably perfectly described being Chief Of Staff in the white house. But thats the job that the general signed up for. And thats the job he has to do. Clearly he isnt doing it to the standard of having all those balls in the air and taking care of important things. The way the American People need them taken care of, like domestic abuse. I appreciate it. Coming up next, new
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meeting with the Minister Of Finance to make a pitch to refinance this property. And Charles Kushner being Jared Kushners father. Both meetings took place, i understand, at the kushner company. Thats right. And Jared Kushner maintains a personal interest. Not just an interest like, oh, i hope it does well. He owns a significant portion still of Kushner Companies. And kushner the two kushners speak on an almost daily basis. Its been reported they speak on a daily basis. So these meetings happened one day after the other. The question what did he know about them . Talk about what happened afterward in terms of u. S. Policy and kushner was involved. After the deal fell apart, kushner basically supporting a change in policy what ended up being a blockade by other countries like saudi arabia. Right. A blockade that is ongoing to
this day because when Secretary Of StateRex Tillerson tried to mediate it, if you remember, and you reported on it at the time, about an hour and a half later, President Trump went out and offered a statement that completely undercut tillerson. Accus Accused Qatar of financing terror. The country that hosts the biggest military United States base in the region. Tillerson believe it was drafted by the ambassador and handed to kushner and delivered it to trump. And that undercutting of the diplomacy is why we have a blockade to this day. The question, of course, is there a connection between, you know, kushners dad going to qatar. The deal not happening. Qatar not giving any money to the loan. And then this change in policy that kushner was involved with in qatar. Thats something that mueller is reportedly looking into. You have federal law implicated in the simple fact that you are
barred from as a Government Employee advising on a policy that could benefit you financially. You know, thats right there. Can a prosecutor prove that given these facts . In his situation, it would be diplomatically tricky. You have to have the qatarys probably testify. They dont want to do that with his fatherinlaw as president while theyre still trying to mediate their way out of this crisis. Which very nearly became a hot war. This is not just a diplomatic tiff. There were reports that the eu a was contemplating sending a mercenary force into qatar. An actual invasion. Yeah. Again, an important u. S. Facility there in qatar. Appreciate the reportings from The Intercept. More on the president s shrinking inner circle. Joining us is john dean, jeffrey
toobin. Theres been so much reporting on kushner and his familys company day after day this week. The read of, you know, p. Do you think the walls are closing in on him somehow . Absolutely. The lack of a Security Clearance for top secret information alone should send him to the exit. Here is the person who is in charge allegedly of middle east negotiations. One of the places where our Intelligence Agencies do the most work. If you ask the Intelligence Agencies why they even exist, they said to give Policy Makers Information to use in Formulating Policy. Hes Formulating Policy that comes from the billions of dollars we sent on information. Ryans story in The Intercept shows hes never going to get a Security Clearance. His divided loyalties are clear. So there is no good reason why he should still be working in the white house except hes the president s soninlaw and they cant be fired. Youre in the middle of everything during watergate. You knew so much. Kushner knows a lot, as well. While, you know, you testified against nixon. Its hard to imagine any scenario under which the president s soninlaw turns against his fatherinlaw. Very difficult to contemplate. He has to put himself in an uncomfortable vice, if you will. There are criminal laws hes playing with and flirting with here, too. One of the things i must say that nixon did his white house did and as counsel i spent a lot of time doing was dealing with conflict of interest. We were very clean. That wasnt a part of watergate and nixon was strict on that. Its surprising that almost all modern president s have done so to see trump just not even Pay Attention to the issues. Hes violating them himself. Hes setting the example for his soninlaw. And, jeff, according to the washington post, you know, one white house official said that some of kushners colleagues in the administration are more reluctant to have conversations with him or even in his company because theres not theyre not sure if hes a witness or the target of the mueller investigation. Others that worked in white houses where there have been investigations the sense of mistrust that grows. You dont know who to trust. You dont know who is cooperating. You dont know who is saying what to investigation the. Its got to be. You know, i was a federal prosecutor. I have many friends who were defense lawyers. You know, the pressure of being under federal investigation is horrible. The experience of knowing that the entire fbi, at least thats how you see it, is looking into your finances. Is looking into whether you are telling the truth in certain circumstances. Its just exhausting and painful. And the fact that Jared Kushner
is dealing with this at the time hes been humiliated by not having a full Security Clearance anymore, i mean, its got to be just terrible for him. And i dont know why he and his wife dont just say the hell with this. Were going back to new york. Just for their own sake. Much less, you know, for the public interest. And maggie for the times is reporting that the president had conversations with john kelly about the possibility of moving getting ivanka trump and kushner out of the white house. That is another fascinating development. The other night on the program bern seen said kushner is in the cross hairs of the Special Counsel investigation. Im not sure we can say that that mueller is focus in part on kushner like a laser based on everything we know so far. Do you think hes in trouble here . Or is in the cross hairs . I would be surprised if he is not. I think karl has drawn that conclusion based on the
reporting. Certainly seems obvious with what were reading in the press that Special Counsel has to be looking at what this man is doing. So, indeed, theyre going after him and have to report one way or another and they dont want to leave something they discovered later they they failed to check a box and look at all the facts and ask. All the right questions. Ic karl is probably right. With all due respect to my idol, im not sure we can say that about kushner at this point. You know, his lawyer has said that no documents have been subpoenaed about 6066 fifth avenue. I think, you know, we need to be very cautious. Robert mueller is doing his own thing. Up in unof us knew that 123 defend the case was coming about the russian social media attempt. I think we need to be careful about inferring it. So i think we should, you know, presume that someone is, you know, under investigation or may
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on camera. He deserves credit for the bipartisan meeting, but only seems to speak with the nra Behind Closed Doors and the nra said the president doesnt want gun control. It seems that his words tend to be affected by whoever is in the room hes talking to at the time. Pretty fluid. I heard what he had to say on wednesday, i guess, when he was meeting with members of congress. It was pretty encouraging for me. It was Policy Proposals that weve been talking about for a long period of time. You know, things like Background Checks for gun sales, limitations to some extent on you know what weapons people buy. These protection orders. It was very positive. But you can see the influence that the gun lobby has. The fact they can get into the president s office very quickly and within 24 hours get the seemingly change his position in a tweet. Yeah. Sanders also said today that the president is still conceptually supports raising the age of purchasing rifles to 21. Saying it has a better chance on the state level. Thats not what the president said. He urged senators to make that part of a bipartisan bill well, you know, she might have been right. It has a better chance at the state level. Weve experienced that, as well. I mean, weve had a lot of success helping pass 200 pieces of legislation in state capitals. Washington, d. C. , is very ethical to get meaningful legislation passed more often on the defense. Especially lately but the gun lobby. I think she gets how, you know, paralyzed washington, d. C. , is. And i think she also probably understands the efforts that the gun lobby took to get President Trump elected. And, i mean, its easy for us to see you know what that translates into. The fact they can get into the
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