Sources are telling him. I think theres considerable evidence theres a consensus developing in this military, at the highest levels in the intelligence community, among republicans in congress including the leaders in the Business Community that the president of the united states, donald trump is unfit to be the president of the united states. Thats the undercurrent. Ive talked about it with you for weeks that ive been hearing in washington. Theres increasing talk about his emotional and mental stability as david gergen referred to. This is extraordinary. Its a dangerous moment in our history. Extraordinary and dangerous, he said. Well, this afternoon senator bob corker, republican from tennessee who at one point was said to be under consideration to be secretary of state for President Trump said this about the president s fitness for office. The president has not yet has not yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to demonstrate in order to be successful, and we need him to be successful. Our nation needs for him to be successful. It doesnt matter whether youre democrat or republican. Quote, he said, publicly seeking Lindsey Graham publicly seeking lan city gram publicly stated i said there was moral ee kwish lency between the kkk, neonazi, and white supremacists. Such a light. He just cant forget his election trouncing the people of South Carolina will remember. Its true he didnt say Heather Heyer was on only the same level. But keep in mind the president demonstrated truthfully saying there were many similarities between na citis, racial protesters, and those protesting against them. There was a group on this side. Yo can call them the left you just called them the left. They came and violently attacked the group you can say what you want, but thats what it is. You said there was hatred and violence on both sides. Yes. I think theres blame on both sides. You look at both sides. I think theres blame on both sides and i have no doubt about it and you dont have any doubt about it either. And if you reported it accurately, you would say excuse me. Excuse me. You had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. Fine people on both sides. Blame on both sides. Violence on both sides. If only we could talk to someone who was actually there. Its a shame we never talked to a reporter who was on the scene. Oh, wait. Actually we did. And when the president says there were good people at this march, that they were quietly there to protest the removal of the robert e. Lee statue, that not all of them were neonazi or white supremacists, what do you think . Is that true . Reporter no. Everyone who was there knew twha they were doing. Thaw were shouting jews will not replace us. They had it very well coordinated. They had an order to the chants. There was no mistaking o someone wandering up and accidentally getting involved in this. So theres that. The president said he wasnt establishing an equivalency, but he sure does seem to be pointing the finger at a lot of other counterprotesters who the president said they didnt have a permit to protest who the nazis did. Another republican senator, tim scott of South Carolina also weighed in today with this criticism of the president. What we want to see from our president is clarity and moral authority. That moral authority is come prpr promiezed when that happens. It was said he was misguided. The president pushed it further, trying to refocus on it. Saying, quote, sad to see the culture of our great country with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments, he tweeted. You cant change history, but you can learn from it. Whos next. Washington, jefferson. So foolish. Also he goes on, the beauty of our statues will be taken out of towns an never replaced. That was this morning. Of course, the nazis and supremacists marching this past weekend was not about marching for the robert e. Lee statute. He was back on the electric twitter machine advocating that to any on sevener would consider a war crime. Quote, what they did to tifft terrorists when caught there was no more radical islamic terror for 35 year. This is not the first time the president spoke about it. He spoke about it several times during the campaign. Listen. He caught 50 terrorists who did tremendous damage and killed many people and he took the 50 terrorists and he took 50 men and he dipped 50 bullets in pigs blood. You heard that . Right . He took 50 bullets and he dipped them in pigs blood and he had his men load his rifles and he lined up the 50 people, and they shot 49 of those people, and the 50th person, he said, you back to your people and you tell them what happened. And for 25 years there wasnt a problem, okay . 25 years there wasnt a problem. So back then he was saying it was a 25year solution. Now hes saying a 35year solution. Anyway, keeping him honest, Authorities Say what hes referring to did not happen. Did not happen. So thats one thing. For another, if the president offering this madeup story is an example what he would like to do, today that would be called a war crime. So where does all this growing criticism from lawmakers leave the president and his agenda . New polling shows that even though 55 disapproved, he still enjoys strong support. David chalian, those words from senator corker, how significant is that for someone whos not only a republican but from the white house criticizing the president . It is significant, but i think were going to have to separate out the kind of significance. You just showed those poll numbers. Republicans overall are still with this president out in the country. That doesnt make corkers break with him any less significant. It is incredibly significant. This is man who doesnt really delve into the daily political toandfro. Hes very much a workhorse in the senate and hes using language weve not heard never mind the democrats but any party. The key thing that i think is so significant here is that were two days after anderson, that press cob frensconference, and two days later that theyre making these comments to me. If im President Trump, im saying, i still have a problem to fix here. A lot of folks on capitol hill, republicans who tweeted about the about how bad nazis are or racism is never mentioned the president s name. You have these two questioning the president s fitness to serve, but theres a lot of other folks on capitol hill who distance themselves from what the president said, didnt make it an attack on the president. Thats absolutely true, anderson. And many, many, many, many republicans have not spoken up against the president , but they spoke up on his behalf. I do think, especially senator corker, his statements today represent one of the most significant breaks from allegiance to the president that we have seen in this entire sa gachlt bs saga. Hes one of the most respected senators in the country. He was considered at one point for Vice President and conversations about secretary of state. I think Carl Bernstein and i have been try ing ing to argue. The issue of stability, the president s emotion alg and Mental Health is going to become increasingly the focus of this story and should be. Theres something about the president and the way he responds. If you look across the board, theres so much anger and pulsivety and mistrust and narcissism. Those are questions that senator corker has now putz forcingly into play. I think thats ready important along with the competence question. To hear the senator talk about that, you dont hear them talking about it every day. Certainly not publicly from a republican. Remember corker is up for reelection in 2018 and we heard the president talk about it. So i do think this is a significant and notable break. Maybe its something about the way the republicans are going the try to run in 2018 as mavericks in a certain way, but i dont think we know what this means for legislation and how theyll vote. Corker for instance had been critical. But went along with what the president wanted to ee and what Mitch Mcconnell wanted to see. When they get back, youre going to have budgeting and tax reform as well. If what the senators said or means anything in terms of how he actually behaved in the way Mitch Mcconnell tweeted out. You know how he talked about when they were caught, theres no more terror for 35 years. The president is talking about dipping bullets in pegs blood. Despite the fact that its false, im not sure what hes advocating here. Obviously in this day and age, it would be considered a war crime. Im not sure what point he was making either, anderson. The point is you put this down, that pershing did this horrific thing and from a muslims point of view, they believe if youre infected with pigs blood, youre going to hell, not heaven. I think what he was endorsing was a very stronghanded response to terrorism is the only way were going to put this down and by extension, by extension, some of the people who were in charlottesville on the right, you know, his argument would be they were facing, you know, thugs, and they had to respond in a thuggish way, and we all know thats not true. But i think thats his world view. David, do you agree with that . That there is a linkage there . I think this was really about terrorism and it was after barcelona was in the news. I do think david is right though. I this i what donald trump is doing here is lets take his words s literally. Lets be brutally honest and dam ned be political. Enough with p. C. Nonsense. This was a way for him to go and fortify his base, his most core base of support. Go ahead. Go ahead. We, i was going to say, hes always lionizing the past, sort of lionizing a general in this case in this sort of bruit masculinity and force, and he does this a lot, i think, particularly on the matter of terrorism. Hes talked for instance about taking families out of terrorists, he suggested that. Hes talked about torture and saying that actually worked even though people dont believe that worked in terms of forcing confessions. So i think this is classic trump. There he was in front of that audience and they were cheering on with that very kind of visual notion about pigs blood. I think thats what hes up to. 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Somewhere along of selfdiscovery a breakthrough. Its in our nature to need each other. Well, theres some sort of new Police Operation going on outside barcelona. Unclear if its connected to todays terror attack in barcelona itself. It left at least 13 people and is 00 people hurt. Two suspects are in custody from that. However, the driver of the van, the mass murderer remains at large. The latest on new operation in just a moment, but first how the van attack unfolded earlier. Around 5 00 p. M. Local time a white van suddenly accelerated into the crowd on one of barcelonas most popular bouleva boulevards. Driving at about 50 miles an hour according to some eyewitnesses, zigzagging in an effort to hit as many people as possible. Spanish authorities already declared it a terrorist attack. I saw it plow into the more chants, the pedestrians, i saw people flying over the vehicle, you know, just flying, you know, all around the vehicle. And it was just a really, really horrific scene of, you know, immediate carnage. Reporter panicked survivors fled the horrific scene. The dead and more than 100 injured were strewn all over the boulevard. This woman points out the number of bodies she can see from her win toe overlooking las ramblas. Two armed men were seen jumped out of the van after they crashed. Police believe they were trying to get to a getaway vehicle. The driver of the van is still on the run. Spain now joins the growing list of European Countries along with britain, france, and germany, which have seen vehicles used as weapons of terror amongst unsuspecting crowds of civilians. Its sickening, a lot to talk about. So, becky, lets start with this new incident were hearing about. Where exactly is it and what do we know about it . Reporter this the town of cam brils, which is 120 kilometers southwest of barcelona near a city called tear go na. What were being told is there is an ongoing Police Operation. It is not clear whether it is associated with the terror attack that happened just two blocks away from where i am tonight in barcelona earlier on today, but police and authorities telling us three suspects, three suspects have been taken down in what is a possible terror attack. Again, ive got be very clear about this. It is unclear at present. Were trying to ensure that were translating spanish media appropriately, but its unclear at present whats happening 00 miles southwest of here is associated with what happened on las ramblas in the center of barcelona today. What we do know is residents are being told to stay indoors. As you rightly pointed out, the incident today involved a van plowing into pedestrians on what is an extremely business street in the center of barcelona killed 13, and we have some 100 others injured. Some 18 nationalities involved as victims of this attack. You pointed out that the van driver abandoned the vehicle. He fled the scene, and he is on the run. Portly authorities have told us there is no evidence that he is armed. It appears, according to authorities, that he and possibly another may have been trying to get toward a getaway vehicle. Its not clear whether they made it. So thats the situation here some hours ago. We have an ongoing situation. Right. Just to clarify a couple of things. First of all, the afternoon attack, two people were seen, apparently by witnesses running from a van. To we assume one was a drive and the other was a person and we assume that driver has not been caught. The two people who have been caught, do we know, is it one of the people who left the vehicle, or do we not know . That is not clear either. Okay. There have been tourists. One is a man of moroccan descent and another is from a spanish enclave in morocco. Its unclear if theyre connected with what happen atlas ram blass. As you can see, the develops are very, very clear here. The situation is this. The van driber go on. So this other incident thats happening, weapon dont know if that was a separate terror attack 75 miles out of barcelona more recently and theres a pree Police Operation for that and whether the one going on in barcelona has to do with a second attack. Correct. Okay. I just wanted to clarify that. So, paul, isis has claimed responsibility for this. Is it clear i mean is it known for sure that it is isis . Theyve offered no proof. Do they normally offer proof . Sometimes they offer proof, a video they might have recorded or a jihadi name they might have used. They fraud endly claimed that before. Were going to start putting out pictures we just received of tape from this operation in cam brie yoes. Again, we dont know if this is a separate terror attack and they say they have knew lal ietzed some people or if this is a Police Operation based on the van terror attack from barcelona. So continue, sorry. Right. We dont know if they were involved. Remember that manila casino attack had nothing to do with them and yet they said it did. Its a horrible loss of life and very troubling details. The night before there was a huge house explosion about a couple hundred kilometers away, and one possibility is that was explosives that were involved. They might have been trying to build a bomb, several bombs. There might have been some kind of malfunction. That might not have worked out so well, and so they went to blan b and improvised this attack. What are the capabilities of the spanish Intelligence Police and others. Im trying to think off the top of my head. Wasnt there a train boxing a couple of years ago . Thats right. The madrid train bombing. The worst terror attack in the west. 190 people killed. They were before that dealing with other groups. Theyve really been going after these radicals, terrorists inside the country. There have been a couple hundred arrests. A quarter of them have been in barcelona. Its a real radicalization inside the country. In fact, just in april there were nine arrests of a cell, i believe, were linked to the terror attacks, and so barcelona has seen plotting activity before. Were continuing follow this very closely. Were also going to talk to an american who witnessed the van attack earlier today. Well talk to him later on tonight. Paul, thank you. Becky anderson as well. Thank you. We ooh going to turn to the president next. Another one of his Advisory Councils is scrapped. Ill talk with a member of the group for his take as well as dr. Cornell west. Usaa to me means peace of mind. We had a power outage for five days total. We lost a lot of food. We actually filed a claim with usaa to replace that spoiled food. And we really appreciated that. Were the webber family and we are usaa members for life. I hafor my belly painking overand constipation. Ucts ive had it up to here its been month after month of fiber. 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Tonight later on the program im going to talk to one of those leaders, aflcio president richard trumka. Faith leaders are not abandoning him. Bishop Harry Jackson is part of the board. He joins me with dr. Cohouston cornell. You have ceos of companies which you generally dont think of as necessarily in the vanguard of, you know, making moral decisions. Theyre the ones who have been with drawing from these councils, and a lot of the faith leaders who have been backing the president are still backing him. What does that say to you . You know, theres a long history of figures staying with status quo. We saw that with dr. King. He was critical. His team was, but many absolutely, absolutely. When you think of the clergy there in charlottesville, brother seth and bitny and the others, they were bearing witness, tracy were bearing witness. We were always trying to bear witness, but its always a prophetic slice. When it comes to ceos, it usually takes a while. Thank god theyre willing to step forward but i think most importantly were seeing now an escalating awakening and an intensifying of a bearing witness around the country. You know, its interesting. I was thinking about you earlier because i was talking with the rabbi, the synagogue in charlottesville. Beautiful. And he was saying that there were brothers and sisters who were catholic, who were other christian denominations, who were standing outside with him outside the synagogue saying we want to stand here to help protect you even though were not members of your congregation. Youre talking about people standing up. It was eck min cal. Buddhists exactly. I want to say this i think were in such a crucial moment in the history of american civilization. Weve reached a very low point. This is a nadinadir. You see, i come from a group of people who after 400 years have taught the world so much about what is love. And because justice is what love looks like in public, it means youre willing to keep track of not just the best but put your body on the line to keep alive the best. Most of Human History is a cycle of hatred, violence, terror, trauma, domination, or oppression. What breaks it love. What breaks it bearing witness to justice. What breaks it is the victims of an empire, of male supremacy, white supremacy, the victim of of antijewish or anti when theyre accountable thats what democracy is all about, but without the love and the dialogue and the bearing witness we lose it. Bishop jackson, i want to bring you in here. Just a few days ago the president tells a crowd of police he wishes they would rough up suspects, not put their hands on their heads as they put them in the police car, let them hit their head. Now he says there were good people. He said they will not replace us. Im wondering, does any of that give you pause on this president . Not really. At this point im advocating people reeducating their lives. It has to do with the africanamerican community. I believe he open, his administration is open to working through some of these systemic problems that they have. Where do you see that . I want to counsel on the voice where i see it . In my discussions. The president doesnt seem to talk about that. Were not about to talk about it publicly, but theyve come up privately. Youve got to be in the room with the person youre prophesizing to. I believe our president needs biblical direction. I believe we need to do all the things that dr. West talked about who is an iconic figure in an africanamerican community. But i think were going have to have these voices operating on both sides of the aisle, republican and democrat. And i believe well also have to deal with the education gap in america and we do have to bring jobs to the hood. What i hope this president will engage in proactive problem solving at a very, very grassroots level. Thats why many of the folks on the counsel are still there. Let me bring in dr. West. I would say to my dear brother that certainly we want a variety of voices in different contexts, but when you get in that room. You have to tell the truth. Bear witness and keep in mind everything. Love is not a play thing. Love requires unbelievable vulnerability, able to take a risk, ke know sis, emptying yourself to be of service most vulnerable, the underdogs, those who have been trashing. The immigrants and so forth. Thats where i bring critique to bear. Dont critique me, sir. Dont critique me. I dont know enough about you to critique you. But if i knew you enough, i would. No, you dont. All of us need to be critiqued. We all are the voice for the voiceless. Absolutely. Were all fallible, brother, thats all im saying. The only voices were hearing for justice are progressive voices, not conservative voices as well, we wont get the message. What i hope my congregation will to is be radical missionaries who enter both parties and then engage in this democratic process. Largely were having africanamericans and hispanics ignore busd they dont vote. We dont vote. We dont engage. We arent active in the proactive beginnings of these stages. I hope you and i can covenant together to Work Together toward gods goals. Objection. I understand the argument of being in the room when it happened, to quote hamilton. There are folks in that room who may be being used because youre in the room, but are you listening . Is it pop that there would come a time when the president doesnt move on just jus it is reform which seems to be exactly the direct opposite direction of where you want it to go in criminal Justice Reform that you would rethink your involvement . That you do would actually step down if you felt your voice wasnt being heard . I think thats a matter of personal integrity. Weve got to bleeb our president counts. If we feel like well never be heard, theres no way i need to. Im a cancer survivor. Im on a mission. Those are my life issues. Im not going to compromise or sell out on those. I appreciate that. Doctor, let me finish with you. Ive heard from folks. Theyre scare. People are worried. People are black, white, gay, straight, whoever they are, theres a lot of people from a lot of dirmgt van taj points, and im wondering what you would say to the people tonight sitting in their homes saying this not the country they recognize. What do you say to people . I would say its clear that the nation has the blues and we can learn something from the blues people, and the blues people are on intimate terms with catastrophe. Wake up every day with a heartache and a heart break. For your me its not new. Theres a whole lot of folk, Indigenous People and working people. Its not new at all. But were staying fortified. We make a difference by doing. What telling what. The condition of truth allowing suving to speak no matter what color. One of the critiques to my dear brother is you cant just talk about black people. You have to be morally consistent p you have to stay in contact with everybody. Thats imagegy news people, gay brothers, bisexuals, trans, people in tel aviv, gaza, and go forth, thats the legacy o jerusalem and Mary Lou Williams on the piano. Can i add a last word . Sure. I think this is so very important. The church is at facility in in ways with whats happening morally. Thats true, my brother. I believe Martin Luther kings letter from the birmingham jstill applies today. We need to call on our nation to pray, we need to have a focused agenda. Some guys like you and me who i deeply respect, we need to learn how to Work Together across these great aisles so there will be a unified sound of conscience and a return to more reality that these people need. You bring marvin gaye and cold train and everything in the room every time you come. I salute you, brother. Appreciate it. I like it when you call me brother sfloo you are too. Were getting information. Were going have live report on that next. Also the guy who wrote the art of the deal, what wrote. Theres a guy who wrote it. What he thinks is likely going to happen to the pr. He actually thinks the president is going to resign. Im going to speak to the author. Ahead. Are made with smarttrack®igners material to precisely move your teeth to your best smile. See how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50 faster today at invisalign. Com i wineverver wash my hair again now, i fuel it pantene is the first shampoo and conditioner system with active prov nutrient blends that fuel 100 stronger hair. Because strong is beautiful. Spanish authorities have been carrying out another operation. Spanish media calling it terror in the wake of that. Becky anderson joins us now. What do we know . Reporter lets be clear about what we know and what we dont know at this point. This Spanish State broadcast ter tve reporting that four terrorists as they described them have been killed in what they describe as a terror incident in the town of cambrils and terragona, which is about 75 miles southwest of barcelona. What we know is this is a separate incident, not, it seems, related to what happened here in barcelona late this afternoon about two blocks away from me on las ramblas, which is the main pedestrian thoroughfare in barcelona where 30 were killed and more than 100 were injured when a van plowed into pedestrians and tourists, throwing them across the road. This menning women, and children. The van driver fled the scene. He abandoned the vehicle. And he as we understand it is still on the run. We were told earlier. Theres no evidence he was armed. It does appear he may have been trying to get toward a getaway vehicle, but its not clear if he made it. Theres two separate incidents. One around 5 00 p. M. This afternoon on las ramblas. A deadly van when it plowed into people. More than a dozen dead and 00 injur injured. And in the past cup of hours, four terrorists now dead 75 miles southwest of here in the town of cambrils near the city of terragona. That is what is clear at this point. Anderson . Becky, i appreciate that. Were going to continue to follow this throughout the rhett of the hour. More on things at home, tony schwartz. He says the president will probably resign. Schwartz spent nearly a year with trump ghostwriting the art of the deal. He said hes going to declare victory and mueller will leave him no choice. He said it would be amazing if he makes it to the end of the year. Would be surprised if he survived by fall. What makes you feel so strongly now . Well, i think the snowball is beginning to gather momentum as it comes down the mountain. It reminds me a lot of watergate and the last days of nixon. When the tide turns, it really turns and thats what happened here. You look at the range of things that have happened and what hes gone back and forth saying to kim jongun about north korea, and youve got kind of hes put himself in an isolated nowin position. The level of but what hes done is hes pushed away all the potential allies and they were beginning to diminish in number anyway and hes now pushed away business people, ceos. Hes now pushed away bannon. You see bannon playing politics with his own boss. Hes pushed away, you know, a good percentage of the congress. Even in his own party. So wheres the potential to survive . And then sitting in the background on this, anderson, is muellers continuing investigation into russia. Hes been lying its not he started lying when he became president or when he started running for president. This is a man whos been deceitful and manipulative for 50 years plus. So whats going to get uncovered by an investigation that really looks into every corner is almost incalculable. For a president who hates losers, talks about losers as if losing something is the worst thing imaginable, if he left the presidency before his term, wouldnt he be considered a loser and wouldnt that be into intolerable or do you think he will attempt to make quitting seem like working harder or being a victor . Yeah. Theres no question hes going to do that because he paints even the most disastrous of things he does, including what he said about the events in virginia over the past week, as evidence of his own brilliance. So what hes going to do is hes going to blame it on the democrats. Hes going to actually blame it on the republicans. Hes going to blame it on anybody he can and hes going to say that he did everything he could to save america and, by the way, i dont want to write his talk for him, his resignation speech. But he is going to try his very best to paint this as his own victory and hes the ultimate victim. But he did everything he could. All the time you spent with him hes going to do it, of course, to stay out of prison. Thats why hes going to do it. All the time you spent with him, did he ever express any sort of moral equivalence between racist and those who counter them . Were you surprised by the remarks he made unscripted, without a teleprompter on tuesday . Look, its hard not to be surprised by any human being who says the kind of unbelievably crazy things he said. The word moral never came up during the 18 months that i spent with donald trump. That was not part of his vocabulary. It was, how do i do whatever is best for me or what i perceive is best for me and how do i get over on everybody else. The idea of moral equivalence, i guarantee you that that phrase is no more than a few days old in Donald Trumps brain. Tony schwartz, thank you very much. I appreciate it. 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[siri ding] the president of the congregation beth israel in charlottesville tells a hair w harrowing story. A man dressed in fatigues with a long rifle standing across the street from the temple shouting theres the synagogue and sieg heil. Having to remove them to keep them safe because they were afraid the synagogues was going to be burned down. Earlier i spoke with the rabbi. Im wondering if you can just describe what this past weekend was like for you and the other members of your congregation, particularly on saturday when you had neonazis, white supremacists, people with rifling outside of your synagogue. Yeah. It was obviously very shocking to see and also in some ways a wakeup call. You know, its one thing to read the hate on the internet or on a website and you imagine a person sitting in the basement typing it out in anger but to actually see the hate, to see it really walking in front of you, to see people Walking Around the streets, it was really quite an experience. We had people all over town armed, Walking Around with arms, all kinds of uniforms. Nobody quite knew who was who. Eventually you did, you know, when they started chanting or when they unfurled their flags. Thats the experience of being here on the streets of charlottesville and seeing people walking by with a lot of anger in their eyes and carrying guns and people were trying to find the right way to react and to be able to express ourselves peacefully without encountering violence. All over there were scenes one day the story will be told about the solidarity that happened between people here in charlottesville, all faiths and of all different kinds. The president has a religious advisory council. To our knowledge, no one on that council has resigned in protest over what the president has said. Im cwondering if youre surprised by that, that somebody might have stepped down. Yeah. I mean, if i had a teaching to share with the president , you know, it would be this. I mean, there is a teaching that says this. Its not just for the president. I think its for everybody. Every person. But certainly for leaders. You know, he says if you believe that you can destroy, then you must believe that you can repair. And i think that means that once in a while everybody who is a leader, whether its of a small organization, a big country or just a person, sometimes has to look in the mirror and say, have i been part of this, what have i done . And if you recognize your part in it, its to do whatever you can, the same energy, the same passion, the same skill that created a problem, you can apply to repairing a problem and thats what i think leadership is about, helping to repair and helping to move forward and i would hope that the president and everyone else whos involved in this will take that to heart. You know, one of the things that the president said was that on friday night, on the uva campus, those people who had marched upon the robert e. Lee statue, that there were good people among them, that they werent all neonazis and white supremacists. This was a group of several hundred, mostly young men, or men of different ages, carrying torches chanting blood and soil, chanting jews will not replace us. Just as a rabbi, as a person of faith, when you heard the president say that there were good people there in that crowd, is it possible for good people to march with torches chanting those things . Yeah. I was i was actually inside the church while that march was taking place. We were part of a very, very broad Interfaith Service but i think the sounds im hearing in the background, you know, they answer that question. And i would say