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New york. And he may be saying how long in the making their breakout was. And a major shakeup at dannemora. Starting outside the prison some new information about matts last moments before the confrontation with police. What have you learned . Reporter yeah. A lot of new information coming in as you know. He was able to find a number of things on the run that were finding out. Food poptarts, m ms, also liquor, some sort of grape flavored liquor that he was apparently drinking just before he was shot. These are some of the new details coming to us. Also before he was shot he found a shotgun and fired it several times inside of a trailer. One of those shots happened to hit a vehicle that was driving by. Thats what set off this whole chain of events. So this coming to us also a picture coming to us. I have to warn our viewers it is somewhat graphic. It is a picture of richard matt just after he was shot. And you can see there, what it clearly shows him wearing that green jacket, the brown pants, the boots, the coroner saying it was very obvious that this was someone who was dressed to be there in the woods. This was a man who lived in extremely violent life and he came to a violent end as well. And i understand david sweats condition was upgraded today. Yeah. His condition upgraded from albany medical. And as you said earlier, he is talking to investigators, telling them who was involved like Joyce Mitchell and people who were not involved. People like gene palmer who passed on that frozen chunk of meat with hacksaws inside. David sweat saying this is a man, gene palmer who had no knowledge of the plan to break out of the prison. A little more information about albany medical where he is being held. He is being held in a special section of the medical facility. No visitors and he has security guards there at all the doors simply because he is a flight risk. That would be an understatement. Thank you very much. Digging deep entire how police and other investigators going getting information from people like david sweat. People might not always be inclined to tell the whole truth. Between the two of them they have interrogated hundreds of suspects and prisoners. Some in the hospital. Law Enforcement Analyst jim, the former metro police detective. Good to have both of them on the program tonight. The fact that david sweat seems to be willingly giving a fair amount of information while in the hospital, does that surprise you . A little bit surprising. But the fact that i believe that david sweat has got quite an ego. And i think the way the detectives probably approach him, the way i would have at the time first of all you develop a nice rapport with him and try to get personal with him. And one of the first things i said hey, david, that was some escape. Let me tell you. If wasnt for matt you would be in canada. Exactly. Play to their ego and at the same time using matt as the reason why he was caught. Now, im asking questions, gee, why did you stay with this guy for so long if hes so crazy to take shots at the vehicle. When you develop this rapport with them it is almost like a friendly rapport. And you have to keep coming back. Once you find daektive that can talk to him and that he talks back to then you have to utilize that same detective every day, coming in asking questions, getting personal getting friendly with him and hell release more information. As a detective interrogating someone like this how do you know theyre telling you Accurate Information . It seems like sweat is claiming credit for most of this saying he was the one doing most of the work. He was the one on the cat walk. Basically swleteat will tell you what he wants you to know. The you take what hes telling and you corroborate with it the information you know for sure. And thats pretty much how you determine the reliability of any sort of statement, any sort of confession. You take what you know. You compare it to what theyre saying. And then as hes given information that doesnt quite match the story, thats when you can confront him. You can do it in a way thats not adversarial. You can ease him into it and confront him with the contradiction and try to see whether or not he changes his account. Im wondering if he tried to strike a deal. Clearly Law Enforcement wants to know the full details, if there are other people involved. They want to know everything they can from sweat. He doesnt have that much leverage. That much to bargain with. Clearly he will be in isolation for a very, very long time. 23 hours a day. I suppose thats the only thing he can try to request to be back in the honors block or to be in general population not being in solitary confinement. Right. Thats basically the only thing that the police can also, the detectives can work. With he doesnt care if he gets ten years added on to his sentence. The guy is doing life. He will be in jail until he dies. He doesnt really care about that. What he cares about, as we can see, here a guy that was on the honor roll who still tried to escape. So he dont like it there. So the last thing he wants to be is in lockdown for 23 hours a day. So the detectives will utilize that and say maybe we can put knew lockdown for five years instead of ten. Maybe well give you two, three hours to come out. That will be the bargaining chip. Thats the only thing they really have. The Clinton County District Attorney told nbc tonight that sweat was the mastermind behind the he is came. He navigated the cat walks. He is the only survivor so it is not surprising i guess, that he is taking all the credit. He is going to paint himself in the best light possible. Hes a con artist. Look what he did in the jail how he connelled all these people ask manipulated him. So sure. He will paint himself in the best light possible. Now he has the opportunity to get back at those who failed him during the escape attempt. Interesting that he seems to be standing up for gene palmer since he didnt know about it. The practice run that these guys made the night before the escape, they ended up in a manhole near the prison and decide that had wasnt the right one to escape from. So they went back and did it the next day. The fact that they could do that have the confidence to do that is pretty unbelievable. It is unbelievable. The fact is i think they got lucky. I think they got lucky that they found the right manhole or had plenty of time. They figured this was the last run. They had to keep on going through that opportunity until they found the right manhole to get out of there. A lot of confidence to go back oh no well do it tomorrow. We have plenty of time. Obviously more details. Appreciate you being on. We do not yet know whether david sweat has told interrogators specifically when and where he was planning to get into canada. We know he was shot and captured near an especially difficult border crossing. Tonight, we see a much easier way in. David sweat ran into this field. This is where he was shot. Canada is through this forest but it is in heavy wilderness. Two minutes as the crow flies but it would have taken a long time to get there because the brush is so thick. There is a much easier way to get to canada. He could have gotten it very quickly if he took path im about to team of it is long mostly dirt roads. It is very dark and he could have gotten away with it if no police were present. Im going to show you how easy it is. He was seen jogging. Ill show you how long it would take and how easy it would be to get into canada. Cut in through the farm field saves time. All you need is an electronic map and a paper map and anyone can figure out how to do it. Ive now walked a bit over a mile in about 17 minutes. The course weve charted is 4. 2 miles, longer than the two miles through wilderness but this will be much easier to get into canada as youll soon see. I have less than half a mile to go to the quebec border. Ive been going about 50 minutes. The 4. 2 mile walk jog is over. This is the International Border between the United States and canada. And you havent seen one like this before. The only impediment stopping you from going into canada is this. This jungle gym. This is a Single Family house. This family lives right on the border. And ill show you, had sweat planned it like, this it would have been very simple to get into canada. Do you see this monument . This is the border between the countries. This is Franklin County United States. This is quebec canada. This backyard is part of canada. This sign for people entering illegally from people not so ferocious. Stop United States bound rich theres no one here. This is canadian land. If david sweat got to this point, it would have been canada in charge of finding him. The entire journey to get here took one hour and one minute. Deborah smith lives here with her dogs. When you heard where he was shot what did you think . It scared me. I didnt realize they were quite that close. This is obviously an easy place to cross into canada. Very easy. Very much easy. Did you have any police come to you during this threeweek search . I dont think they even thought they were down in this area until like the very last you know horrah. Thats true. And Deborah Smith that a narrow the strip runs through into the quebec farmland. Its amazing, a, how good shape you are in but b, she didnt have any encounters with police all this time given that her house is on the border. Did she tell you if shes ever seen anyone crossing between the u. S. And canada . Deborah has lived there seven years. She said during years shes seen numerous people crossing in her backyard. Mostly from canada into the United States. She said it is very scary. She said one time she saw people in masks. She called border officials in both countries when she sees that. She tells us there are sensors in the woods. It is the kaenl authorities that control it. One more thing, canada is perfectly capable of dealing with manhunts. When it comes to this it could have turned into an International Manhunt and thats much more complicated and that may be what sweat and matt were banking on. Its amazing how close he was to being able to cross over. Appreciate that report. Thank you. Coming up next a dozen officials involved. And how incredibly long sweat and matt may have been cutting their way out of their cells without being discovered. The question is how was that possible . Later, more of Donald Trumps free form stump speech and the ongoing fallout about his speech and mexico and the half billion can good. Bennys the oldest dog in the shelter. 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The question is 12 people who had the duty of keeping this sort of thing from happening, how did they let this happen . They were put on forced leave including the summit and his deputy. And thats not all. Were also learning how long in the making and digging this escape may actually have been. What have you heard about how long they were doing this . Its really interesting. Were at the time line. Investigators believe matt and sweat were gathering information about hunting cabins and terrain in that area for more than a year. Eight months ago, it was the first time that corrections officer gene palmer brought in a screwdriver and needle point pliers and brought the men in the back of the cat walk. So all of this was so carefully orchestrated. The needle nose pliers. Yes. We know that Joyce Mitchell spent several months bringing muffins to get the cells moved together and also convinced gene palmer to bring in that frozen meat. That was just several months ago. We know that the steam in thosepes was turned off in may and we know that if you look out at the tailor shop windows you can see the manhole from which those men escaped. So all of this is information that investigators are now gathering from david sweat. Because this clearly, they may not have started hacksawing their way out of the prison cell and then in the opportunities more than just a couple months ago. This was something that they had been thinking about and considering for a very long time. And remember they escaped in may when the weather was better. Clearly than it would have been if they had escaped in the dead of winter. So she using her muffins to curry favor. Which really shows intent. Shell have a hard time with that. This is like a lifetime movie. 12 employees in the sidelines. Ninth of them are Security Officers and they are being looked at very closely. Not only by the Inspector General but by the new york state police. There is an fbi probe about whether any of those Corrections Officers may have been involved somehow getting drugs into the prison. The fbi really investigates public corruption. Thats what theyre focused on to see what it involves. Some sort of a drug ring. The three top men in charge of that prison theyre on administrative leave. The buck stops with them. They are supposed to know whats going on at all times. Theyre supposed to make sure that weekly cell checks are taking place. And that means taking a stick and banging on the bars. Taking something and banging on the walls to make sure that nobody is trying to break out. That was not done. Clearly. Deborah feyerick thank you. One prison worker and seamstress Joyce Mitchell is reportedly happy the manhunt is over. Ecstatic according to herp attorney that no one else was hurt. As for her husband lyle who might have been killed by matt and sweat if joyce has gone through with her role as getaway driver peter, i know youve been in touch with your client lyle mitchell. What is his reaction to what sweat has told investigators. That Joyce Mitchell was the primary plan for a getaway car and they intended to kill him. He certainly didnt think that was plan a in the beginning. The way hes looking at i, like joyce saved his life that night by not picking them up. Certainly one way to look it a, i guess. The most optimistic reading of it. The plan was for the three of them on drive to mexico. What did he think of that . I know all along, when you and i spoke before he said he didnt believe there had been any sexual relationship. What does he make of the idea that she was going to take off to mexico . Well, when i talked on him about it he keeps going back to the fact she didnt go through with it. I think hes hanging on to that. Has your client been in touch with his wife . Does he continue to be in touch with her . I think she had visited her early on. They havent talked about sweats capture yet. Did he speak to her on the phone last week and im not sure if hes had any contact with her since then. He hasnt told me about that. That leads me to believe that he hasnt. Obviously we dont know what will happen with Joyce Mitchell. Can you describe how he feels toward her right now . Has he told you about that . What his plans are . Well hes still in love with her, to put it bluntly. And i think he plans on waiting for her. He had not been the last time we spoke, your client lyle had not been questioned any more by authorities. Im wondering if that has changed. Have they reached out to him in recent days . They havent. Lyle did reach out to them today just to keep in touch with them. To make sure the avenue is open so to speak, and to make sure they know he is still willing to cooperate. And it is touching that and understandable i guess, you know the heart wants what it wants. He is still in love with her. Even if she does time you think he wants to wait for her . At this point, he does. Weve spoken about the fact that he may still be an employee of the department of corrections and what that means if his wife was in prison. He could also i mean if he remained an employee at clinton correctional and sweat is still there, it is possible that he could, i guess, have some encounters with sweat as well. Thats true. He has put in the paper requesting a transfer at this point. To another prison facility. Sure. And in malone alone there are three other state correctional facilities. I appreciate you coming on and talking about your client. Thank you very much. Peter dumas. Thank you. Remember Drew Peterson, the Police Officer who became a spouse killer . He is heading back to court. Tonight at 9 00 eastern, were airing a special report. Married to a murderer. 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This is more of a general warning because theyve seen a lot of intelligence that indicates that there are isis recruits here in the United States who may be planning to carry out attacks tied to the fourth of july holiday. Thats what has they said concerned. They know that there are a number of them that theyre watching monitoring but it is the ones that they dont know about. Clearly this is isis related. We saw three last week three different attacks in three different countries. Right. This is all isis related and we know that there are soips related investigations around the country. There are hundreds of people consuming the isis propaganda and thats what the fbi is concerned about. A lot of them are beginning on twitter and then go offline. On peer to Peer Communications and encrypted communications. Also the more people that are involved it is the potential to be bigger and to be discovered. If it is one individual an active shooter situation, or a handful of individuals, that makes it all the more difficult. Exactly. And i was talking to one counterterrorism official on the west coast and he said one of the things that happens with this group of recruits that were looking at. Theyre not necessarily connected. They dont necessarily need to have any activation. Theyre looking for an excuse to go operational and frankly, a lot of them are not on the radar. Appreciate the update. Thank you. We want to get the latest on other stories were following. The United States and cuba are making it official. Two Senior Administration Officials Say there will be an announcement tomorrow that the countries have reached an agreement to renew formal diplomatic relations and open embassies in washington and havana. 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See if you can final a couple articles i didnt bring them because it is raining. Now you know it is my hair. What do the japanese most want . One was anything trump. Crazy. They all said hell never run because he doesnt want to show he isnt much big. It turns out i was much bigger. Ive employed tens of thousands of people over my life. Ive employed. And theyre saying [ applause ]. And people sleepy eyes meet the press dying, going down the tubes, no ratings. So cnn. They do a poll. A nice poll. They had me second. Hard to believe im second to bush. Bush is not going to get us to the promise handle. Isis is building a hotel in syria. Theyre competing against me. Its true. I dont want to go to that hotel. Who do you think would do and who would be the strongest leader . Now this is cnn. They dont like me. Because i want the country to be great and they dont know about great. I must be a legitimate poll because im winning in so many categories. Heres a pretty good one. Who do you think would be the strongest leader of all the republican candidates . Number one is trump. I had an uncle who went to m. I. T. Who is a top professor. Dr. John trump. A genius. My blood. Im smart. Great marks. Really smart. If write a democrat especially if i was a liberal democrat, they would say im the smartest human being ever. But as a conservative republican i have to work hard. Thats why i tell you my credentials before i get up. Im not talking about you. Im talking to them but they wont care. Nothing will change them. Joining me now, cnn National Correspondent john king senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. Listening to him, hes talking extemporaneously for an hour plus. He has very strong opinions and he is not a politician and that really comes across. He seems reasonably confident in his own abilities. Renalbly confident. We can laugh about this and sometime we do laugh about it. The big question is how long will this last . He will drop out if he doesnt make debates or will he flame out . At the moment necessary second place in New Hampshire. There was a fox news poll earlier this week that had him in second nationally. We have a new poll nationally tomorrow. Lets look at those numbers. He is having the biggest impact. He is not a politician. Dr. Ben carson is doing well. So you have dr. Carson and mr. Trump beating the senator. He looks like hes having fun and enjoying and it able to speak off the cuff. The question is how long can that last . At what point do Republican Voters say can this guy beat Hillary Clinton who we assume would be the democratic nominee . Can we get the white house back with donald trump . Thats where the other candidates think this flame out. He is a good public speaker. You see 30th. A good showman. He knows how to promote his own brand and he is going to be no question unless the polls just collapse no question hes going to be in the first and probably the second republican president ial debate. He stood by his comments about immigrants and crime. He said no one else wants to talk about it. Only him. 80 of Central American women and girls are raped crossing into the United States. I mentioned this and they said how can you mention a thing like this . I had no idea it was this bad. Its horrible. Heres another one. I have hunt of these articles. Illegal alien rapes and murders young baby in new mexico. Okay . By the way hundreds of these articles. It is interesting. Obviously hes not backing down at all from his comments. He is getting a lot of attention from it. Clearly for those who stay Republican Party needs to do a better job among latinos in the United States this is not getting closer to that. No it certainly isnt. So interesting to listen to him. Ive never quite seen a stream of consciousness candidate before like this. And in terms of attracting latino voters, you had ted cruz out there saying donald trump is right. Stop being so politically correct. I think what youll see other republicans start to do now is take on donald trump on the immigration issue. Theyve got to they can use him as a foil if you will. And the big impact hell have on this field, it is like a kid in the sandbox. Wubls one kid starts throwing sand all the others join in. Theyve been trying to avoid challenging each other directly. Theyre taking off after Hillary Clinton. I think what donald trump is doing right now, and it will happen on the immigration issue and on other issues, is that republicans are going to have to start responding to him and taking on each other which is kind of a nightmare for them right now. Lets talk about this lawsuit. Half a billion dollars. He said look nbc, theyre not standing by me. Theyre standing by Brian Williams and those were the words he used. Does he have a case against univision . A breach of contract case. There is a contract between univision and the Trump Organization and the univision is not commenting. I spoke to trumps lawyer today and he said look let me send you the contract. So youve seen it. And there is no provision in there as there are in a lot of personal Services Type contracts. We can get rid of you for moral terp tood or embarrassing behavior. Should i point out. This trump is saying, the lawsuit says as mr. Trump explained on bill oreilly theyre coming over talking about immigration. Theyre coming over theyre climbing over a fence, theres theyre killing people all over the place and were not doing anything about it. Hes saying im not saying anything different now than i was saying back then. And i dont think this case will go to trial. I assume it will settle like most these settle. But it is not a frivolous lawsuit and it is further grist for him saying you want to mess with me. Ill show you i fight back. And people hike that. And he is also taking on other candidates. Talking about jeb bush saying there is no way jeb bush can win. He fumbled on iraq for days. It is not just mexico. It is other republican candidates. And again, hell be up there on the debate stage. Youll have ten candidates over the first big debate. Cnn will have a second tier but hell be in the first one. Hell be up there with the people one of them will be the republican nominee for president. And how he changes the dynamic. As a peril, a lot of people are oh my god. As he good showman. He starts throwing sand. The other thing is there is an opportunity if someone can turn this into their moments. Stand up to him. Chris christie is also a performer. Well see if he gets on the same debate stage. So there is a great fear that this will turn these into Reality Television as opposed to a president ial debate but there is opportunity for the other candidates. Fascinating to watch. Thank you. Just ahead, more breaking news. A live update from Central Washington state where wildfire now threatening thousands of homes. Im going to speak to someone who has already lost his house. Lucky to be alive. Almost lost a pet and barely had time to get out. Well be right back. In Washington State continues to rage. It has already destroyed homes and threatens many more. In a moment ill speak with someone who escaped and is lucky to be alive. The mayor says hungs of firefighters are working around the clock but hes worried about what is going to happen next. Dan simon reports. Reporter this is how things looked before the fire and this is what it looks like now. The aftermath of a fastmoving blaze that took out two dozen homes in a single night. This is video captured by a local resident as the flames came barreling down a canyon and then igniting a multitude of houses. It came really fast didnt it . Yeah. Extremely fast. I cant believe the storm a fire creates. Reporter one of the houses belonged to keith newberry. The 44yearold returning to the house he lived in with his wife and three children. Is there anything you were able to save . I mean we saved our pictures and took our computer tower because it has all of our important stuff on it. The rest is replaceable. Reporter he became emotional thinking about his youngest daughter. A 9yearold. She was in a swimsuit. Were not the only ones. It is happening for years and years and years. Be strong and rebuild. Reporter at waffle fire coming over a canyon with flying embers landing in all direction. The flames were just they looked evil. It was scary. It is scariest thing i have ever seen. As we were grabbing stuff a fireman yeah. He came into the house and said get out, get out. There were houses on the back side on fire. Just go. So we just went. Reporter fire crews Rapid Response undoubtedly saved both lives and property. At lot of time we focus on the structures lost. But agencies locally, many structures that were actually saved out there. Reporter authorities are optimistic theyre getting a handle on the blaze but washington like much of the west coast is in the middle of a severe drought. So theres a fear this could be a long wildfire season and crews are concerned that fourth of July Fireworks could trigger more devastation. As for keith it is surreal. Sad. Lost some important memories. But a chance to rebuild. Reporter and he wants to rebuild in the same spot. Well be sitting on the back patio and barbecuing and have the house the way we wanted it. It will be fine. Just heart breaking. Dan simon joins us now. What are the conditions like right now . I know yesterday it was 100 degrees. Not even in the fire zone. Reporter triple digit temperatures again, anderson. A very difficult day for firefighters. We are in the broadview subdivision, specifically on maiden lane and the devastation is unbelievable. About eight or nine home on this one block. It looks the same across the street. In terms of where we are right now, officially theyre saying a 10 containment. But it appears there are no active flames so authorities are optimistic theyre getting the upper hand on this fire but we have to talk about the drought. Washington state like much of the west coast is experiencing a severe drought. So there is a lot of concern. Special when i the fourth of july holiday coming up that youll have somebody shoot off a fire work and start another wildfire. So authorities are hoping people use common sense. Appreciate the report. Thank you. Joining me now, John Dominguez whose home was destroyed in the wildfire. John i understand youve just gotten back from vacation when you saw flames coming toward your home. What happened then . Actually they were a ways away. Im guessing at least three, four miles away in a town nearby called monitor. And it isnt unusual to see brush fires. They usually often snuff themselves out or the firemen are great at putting them out. It seemed so far away and so unlikely to affect us. How quickly did it get close . It came all at once. It was, i guess about eight, shortly before that we wnlt on any level. Then a policeman came through and said we were on level one which means pack everything up. You might need to get out of here. And i guess were estimating 15 20 minutes later, my wife came through the house kind of screaming at me to get out. I was packing some of the thing that any of us might pack if we get into this situation. By the time i pulled the car out of our garage there was a fire ball behind my neighbors house. Wow incredible maybe 15 20 feet from here. And it was more real when i saw smoke, black smoke billowing up as if something had really caught fire. At that point my wife was still trying to train some hoses on the house. And her brother who lives with us was trying to get some things out. And then i turned to screaming at them. Weve got to get out of here and i screamed a couple times, honked the horn and we got in and out. Do you have pets . Yeah. We have four pets. One of the cats which was outside mirgs wife kept calling and we decided to leave that cat which would have killed my wife. It showed up at the back door in the last moment. Really the last moment. Thats amazing. I hate to ask this question. Have you seen your house . Is there anything left of it . You cant come back into the neighborhood ones Something Like this happens. The next morning we could come back and it was smoldering. A smoky scene. It looked like any of a hundred pictures ive seen of world war ii aftermath. And were looking at the pictures of your house right now. I mean god, unthinkable. How do you this is a dumb question. How do you deal with Something Like this . I guess were kind of in a stumble mode. We just do things. When you lose all that youve accumulated, there is not a lot to do except eat and talk about the things that you need. I couldnt to go work and that was very strange. Ive missed one day of work in my whole life. John i wish you the best and your family the best. I just i hope things work out for you quickly. Thank you so much for being with us. Oh yeah thank you. So sad. Well be right back. Leave early go roam sleep in sleep out star gaze dream big wander more care less beat sunrise chase sunset do it all. On us. Get your first months payment plus five years wear and tear coverage. Make the most of summer. With volvo. The American Dream is terrifying. American history is the history of the scary thing being the exact thing we have to do. Cross that ocean. 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