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Drones in front of the white house. And now, this latest chapter involves two agents, and the car wreck at the white house and allegedly booze. Michelle kosinski is not farr from the crash site known as the white house lawn. What is the latest that you are hearing . Right. Keep in mind that the seekcret service is not confirming any of the details coming out by the Washington Post, but they are not disputing any of the facts either. What the article is saying that about a week ago on march 4th, two of the top agent, and one of them the number two agent in the president s protective detail, and one is a supervisor and coming back from a work party, the retirement of the spokesperson of the secret service, and allegations that they were drinking at the party, and came upon this barricade at the white house, and there was an investigation going on, and some sort of pact inexplicably they showed the badges but then drove right through the tape and crashed their government car into the very baur cade that had bneen set up. To make it even more byizarre it is right where vernment car into a temporary barricade that had been set up. To make this even stranger, the allegation is also that officers at the scene there did not only want to arrest these agents or test them if theyre sober or not but the supervisor ordered them to be allowed to go on. So uniformed officers at the scene were the ones who wanted to give them an alcohol test . Reporter yeah, exactly. Its unclear if those officers were within the secret service, were they park service . I mean, both of these are patrolling around the white house but thats what the article alleges. The secret service isnt confirming anything or giving any more detail. Theyre only saying as of now, these have been named publicly in the Washington Post article have been reassigned. Its a nonoperational capacity as the secret service puts it and theyre not saying its temporary, pending the outcome of the investigation. They say not to say that but not confirming this is a permanent reassignment either. What it is, it seems like another embarrassment, possibly another full blown scandal for the secret service, anderson. In the past, when something happened, often, we did not, the public did not get statements from the secret service or the full account of the secret service until much later on. The guy ran into the white house, turns out he made it into the east room, as i remember. Reporter thats the worry. Its only coming out now where this incident happened on march 4th. This is the first were hearing any detail. Why the secret service doesnt put out some kind of press release, fyi, this has been sent to investigation. The department of Homeland Security is now handling this. This is a pretty high level incident. Its bearing a high level investigation but were still not getting much information at all from the secret service, unfortunately. Fascinating. Michelle kosinski, appreciate it. Joining us now of the Washington Post that broke this story and former fbi director tom fuentes and former secret agent, jonathan wakro. He is a 13year veteran of the service, and he knows president obama and he knows the two agents who are involved and we are not naming them, but carol, what additional detal sils do you have on the sequence of events . Have the agents finished their shift at the white house and then gone to this party . Do we know . We dont know if they were on duty or not, but you would presume that people going to a Retirement Party at a bar in Downtown Washington were pretty much done for the night. My information from sources is that they were returning from this party fairly late, somewhere around 10 00, 10 30 at night. Went back to get one of the government cars. I believe one of them, mr. Ogilvy is driving out of the white house compound near 15th street according to the sources who have talked to us about this when he comes across the barrier, and where secret Service Officers and the metropolitan Police Department are canvassing and securing a scene because of a suspicious package that they are worried about. And again, according to the sources, the allegations that are under investigation are that these two gentlemen appeared intoxicated, were behaving in an erratic fashion. Thats not known at this point whether they were or they werent, but the reports from the scene were that they were behaving strangely enough that officers both from the secret service and the metropolitan Police Department were sort of scratching their heads saying, this looks funny, whats going on here . And michelle was saying its not clear who wanted to give a breathalyzer. Is that your understanding, was it secret Service Agents that wanted to give their fellow secret Service Agents a breath liz breathlize er or was it a uniformed officer . Keep in mind, the secret Service Officers that are sort of the palace guards if you will for the white house. They dont necessarily view themselves as the brethren of the secret Service Agents. Agents, special agents often, and the officers are sort of, officers feel theyre a second redheaded stepsister, stepchild, in the agency and they often view the agents as an elite group that view themselves a little bit more high and mighty. So thats an issue for the service to deal with, and for director clancy to deal with too, but our information is that officers on the scene, secret Service Officers, were the ones wondering, should we be testing these guys and arresting them for whats happened here . Keep in mind, as many readers and viewers have mentioned to me, that in 2013, when a civilian ran a temporary barricade, a very different situation, much more aggressive situation and worrisome one, but when a civilian did that, she was chased by police and shot at. Hmm. And jonathan, you were on the president S Secret Service detail, i understand you know the two agents in question, again, who were not naming at this time. What do you make of all this . First of all, the two agents, and i just want to go back to what michelle stated, these are not facts. The secret service are not releasing facts, and so i hope that rumor is not preceding the facts in the case. But in whats been reported, it looks like these agents made a fatal error in judgment, if the facts are true. Jonathan, why wouldnt the secret Service Release some facts . I mean, its been now quite a while and, you know, nothing is wrong with transparency. No, absolutely nothing is wrong with transparency and i think thats what a lot of people have been calling for with joe clancy now installed as the new director, but facts take a little while to develop and theyre not always as clear as black and white. Theres a totality of circumstances that go on. You have to look at what was going on at that time. At the time the white house was in an elevated state, they were in an elevated condition because of an incident that was ongoing, so the attention by the officers, whether it was the uniform division or the metropolitan police, was focused on the initial incident, not these two agents at the time. So separating the facts in this case may take a little bit of time. Tom fuentes to the point that carol made Something Else a civilian running a barricade, you know gets shot and killed and from my Memory Police were relatively quick to releesase details on what they knew and what exactly happened, why was it different for the Law Enforcement . Well, one reason its different is that the people involved in this are not killed, and theyre still alive and under investigation. And, you know, the transparency could have been that the secret service announced that they had an incident, who was involved, theyre placed on leave, reassigned temporarily for now, while the department of Homeland Security office and Inspector General conducts the investigation. Then you would have no Real Transparency during the course of the investigation, and that will probably include finding every person that was at the original party to try and determine what they were drinking, how much they drank, take signed and sworn statements from everybody there at the par party and the white house and the entire incident that happen happened and the driving through the barricade and the witness statements and sworn statements of the officers and so it is going to be and involved investigation. Probably during that time, you know, there wont be a lot of transparency. And id like to add. The Inspector Generals office will not be under the control in any way, shape, or form of the director of the secret service. So thats, you know, theyre under the control of the department of Homeland Security and congress and it will be an independent investigation to look into this misconduct. Tom fuentes, i appreciate you being on and carol, and jonathan wakro. Now to ferguson days after the Justice Department report on racism the report after the first firing police chief Thomas Jackson has today resigned. Hes leaving next thursday, walks away with severance money and Health Benefits in the d. O. J. Report as working with the local to separate people, mainly africanamerican people from their money. Chief jackson was not on hand for a News Conference at city hall late today. Ferguson mayor, james knowles, had this to say. To ferguson residents, business owners, and to the entire country, the city of ferguson looks to become an example of how a community can move forward in the face of adversity. We are committed to keeping our Police Department and having one that exhibits the highest degree of professionalism and fairness. Joining us now, sara sidner, who spent long hours trying to get answers from chief jackson very recently, as a matter of fact. It certainly seems like this was a long time coming. You know, for a lot of people, theyve been asking for his resignation. Not everyone in the community, there are those who want him to stay but those out on a daily basis protesting, they asked him to step down. They asked other city leaders to step down but he was the numb it was really his handling in ber one target. Those early days which received so much criticism. Absolutely. So mistakes were made. Later he come back and say, i probably shouldnt have done this this way. This might have been wrong, when, for example, the department, at his behest, put out the video of Michael Brown. Before they had or at the same time they had released the name of the officer, and no one knew that name for a week, and if everything is justified, why are you not releasing the name of the officer, and they did that and put out the picture of Michael Brown at the Convenience Store taking the cigarillos and push inging the clerk. And people said, you are victimizing the victim. It was interesting though. When that doj report came out, the mayor, whos a parttime official, he had to go out and get the press conference and the police chief, you would think anybody who has some questions to answer about whats in that report, it would be the chief of police and the car, tried to get him to talk. He basically said, im still analyzing it. Right. Im still analyzing it and ill let you know. He has let us know. He has now resigned. But whats interesting, anderson, the chief, the city manager, two officers, a captain and a sergeant, a county clerk, the clerk of the courts all are gone. All of them, by the way, are mentioned in that report. The mayor is not mentioned in that report. The city manager and chief were expressly mentioned because their emails were mentioned in the report. So what youre seeing now is that one by one, those whose names and emails in that report are going whether its resigning, four resigned and one was fired. Severance for a year . He gets severance for a year, and insurance for a year. And so does the city manager. The city manager, we heard in that press conference from the mayor he also gets severance for one year. And they say theyre now going to have a nationwide hunt for a new police chief. Well see what happens and whether there is fundamental change in an overwhelming White Department in 67 africanamerican community. Set your dvr. Watch 360 whenever you want. Thank you, sara sidner. Will more get expelled for this racist chant . I asked david bourne in his First National interview since kicking two of these kids out. And what could be next for aaron schock, the one with the Downton Abbey inspired office and katy perry private trips. Taxpayers, by the way, footed the bill. See what happened when we tried to ask the congressman to account for it all. Oenail fungus. Use jublia as instructed by your doctor. Once applied jublia gets to the site of infection by going under, around and through the nail. Most common side effects include ingrown toenail, applicationsite redness itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. Tackle it ask your doctor now if jublia is right for you. People with type 2 diabetes come from all walks of life. If you have high blood sugar, ask your doctor about farxiga. Its a different kind of medicine that works by removing some sugar from your body. 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There will never be a [ bleep ] at sae. As you know, two frat brothers have been expelled from ou. Including the student in the bow tie ta you saw. More expulsions could be coming. We spoke with the man who ordered them, david bor. So president david boren saying that racist chant has been used at their chapter at your university for three or four years. Im wondering what your reaction to that is. Im really shocked about that, and were hearing rumors that its been used at other chapters as well. It might have been sung at National Conventions and National Meetings at the fraternity. You know, its very hard in this day and time because the outside world on us. When ferguson happens, it upsets our students. When things happen in other places, they bring it from the rest of society in here. It makes it even harder to deal with these types of situations. But weve been hearing rumors that its been here. We havent known about it at all. I guess its been kept under wraps and that its been other places as well. Thats deeply disturbing. Do you expect there will be more disciplinary action beyond the two young man so far . Yes, i do. Were collecting names and information. The video is a little hard to see, but were going to get the names of the other individuals from sae who were on the bus. Were looking at the responsibility of chapter leaders, officers of the fraternity to see if theyre responsible for teaching it to new students in the fraternity. And once we get all of that information together and we analyze it and also look at the law, i do anticipate that we will be taking additional appropriate action at the right time. Perhaps more expulsion . It could be more expulsions, there could be suspensions. In a case like this, we have to be very careful and look at the individual rights of every person involved. I really think we have to show in the strongest possible terms, even in our social conversations, were not going to put up with racist comments, racist jokes. Weve got to stop. Its an epidemic in this country and we celebrate selma and we think those kind of things are over with. And yet we see it. They may be more subtle. They may be in different forms. But we see the same kind of racism in our Current Society and i dont think its going to stop until all of us, individually and collectively say, not with us. Not my presence. Not here, youre not going to do things like that. Youre in a difficult spot. I have talked to some civil rights attorneys who say as abhorrent of what these students said it sis actually protected by the first amendment, and that by being expelled these students are essentially having their Constitutional Rights violated. To that what do you say . Anderson, i dont think so at all. We were very careful from the very beginning and section 6, title of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, provides that when you create a hostile learning environment, thats a misuse of your free speech. And aclu representatives indicated strong support for our actions. We provided due process in the expulsion letters, for example, that i sent to the two students that have already received them. Weve provided a process. You are hereby notified, youre expelled. You may come to eeo office and contact that office within a certain number of days and if you want to be heard or bring your attorney or tell us why your action is contested by you or deemed inappropriate, you will have a due process opportunity to do that. So im a great believer in free speech, even at times when you abuse free speech and then i think we have to use our own free speech to condemn it. But in this case, youre creating a very hostile educational environment thats right on all fours with the Civil Rights Act. And i think weve struck the appropriate balance here. Even though the speech itself took place off campus, on a bus, not in an educational setting, per se . I think so because its chartered by the university, in other words, we charter that chapter and it has an affiliation with the university. So i think that we cant close our eyes and say, well, its not officially on the campus, and so therefore we cant do anything about it because it greatly impacts every student and obviously kids on the bus. Every kid on the campus, all of the faculty read it, all of us affected by it and i think that does create a hostile environment. If you can see the tears that have been shed by those who really suffered pain because of those expressions, hang somebody by a tree. I mean, i thought we wouldnt hear that again in america ever and then well never sign them, were going to exclude them. Those are things we just cant allow and i dont think thats constitutionally protecting speech. We give due process, but at the same time, we cant put up with it. We have to take action to snuff it out right away. President boren, thank you so much for your time. Thank you so much anderson. One final note. We wanted to get saes reaction to the rumors of other chapters around the country using that racist chant and sung at the national convention. The president s use of the word rumors is problematic because rumors and stories change as they are told one minute to the next. Regardless, we continue to investigate where and how this racist chant from the video made its way into our fraternity statement. Yeah, denial . Not exactly. Ahead, the search for wreckage and remains after a military chopper goes down with foggy conditions in the florida panhandle. Also tonight, a cnn exclusive tonight. Photos of Osama Bin Laden before the 9 11 attacks. This is secrets revealed by Seal Team Six the night before he died. Hey mom, you want to live by the lake, right . Yeah. Theres here. Did you just share a listing with me . Look at this one. Its got a great view of the lake. Its really nice mom. Your dad wouldve loved this place. Youre not just looking for a house. Youre looking for a place for your life to happen. Zillow a somber mission tonight in the florida panhandle. A crew conducting search investigation after an marine on board. Black hawk first reported missing in foggy conditions near Eglin Air Force base. It was washed up with human remains. Obviously, an incredibly difficult day. Whats the latest on the search . Reporter oh, anderson, it has been a very difficult day. Talking to members of the military, you can just see it on their faces. Its been 23 hours since the black hawk helicopter went down and unfortunately, theyve had to suspend the helicopter part of the search and rescue. They have three coast guard vessels in the water actively doing search and rescue. And meanwhile, the Louisiana National guard and the marines have been out there informing families that their loved ones are missing. We do know these men were very experienced at what they did, that they do these kind of Training Exercises all the time, one after another here in elgin. So its not clear what went wrong. What thing is clear, the Training Exercise involved taking men from the helicopter on the boat and lifting them back up to the helicopter. So these helicopters were quite low down to the water. Is it clear, i mean, whether the conditions were very foggy, do we know if that in any way contributed to the crash . Reporter they havent said what they think caused the crash. Its hard to believe though that the fog wasnt a part of it. It was heavy last night. It continues to be heavy. You can see it here today. We had difficulty flying down here today because of the fog. Its hard to believe that it didnt play a role. Just horrible for their families and friends. Elizabeth, thank you very much. Tonight, an exclusive new look at Osama Bin Laden and the months leading up to his death by Seal Team Six. Documents found at his compound paint a picture of a man in fear in stark contrast to never before seen photos of bin laden from 1996 which have been exclusively obtained by c nshgsnn. Heres our justice correspondent, pamela brown. Reporter these remarkable pictures have never been seen until now, obtained by cnn, show a smiling Osama Bin Laden in the mountains of afghanistan, five years before launching the biggest terror attack in american history. When i met him, when i introduced him, yes, he hated america, he hated american policies and the middle east. But never occurred to me that he would be planning for 11th of september attacks. Reporter altwan, the first person to interview Osama Bin Laden, took many of these exclusive pictures, seen here with a highranking al qaeda jihadist who was there during the interview. After a harrowing sevenhour journey through the bora bora mountains, altwan arrived at the retreat under heavy security. I remember there was a military maneuver half an hour after i arrived there and why is that . Because we were scared the american could follow you and that they could actually bomb us. Reporter cnn has obtained these photos at the same time the world is learning more about the al qaeda mastermind, from letters and documents found in his compound by Seal Team Six the night he was killed. Those documents were released in a federal terror trial paint the man increasingly fearful of drone strikes and concern about his crumbling organization but altwan said he saw a very different young man in the 90s. He is very humble and he is like everybody else around him, despite being a very wealthy man, his clothes were very modest. His food was actually very, very primitive food. It was just the fried eggs and some rotten cheese. Reporter despite his modesty, bin laden liked to show off his prized possessions like the rifle he was carrying in this picture. He showed me his rifle, actually. He said hes proud of this rifle because he captured it from a soviet general he killed. Reporter this picture captures bin laden giving altwan a tour of the land he was so proud of. That would later become his safe haven right after 9 11. We walked into the mountains of torah borrow torah borrow and he was very active. Reporter he spent two sleepless nights in a cave with the terror leader. A very, very old and very stiff mattress, so i really couldnt sleep. I discovered that i was sleeping an arsenal with the hand grenades, the rifles, so i couldnt sleep. I thought maybe any mistake, i would be blown up completely. Reporter pamela brown, cnn, washington. Peter bergen is one of the few who met face to face with Osama Bin Laden. He joins us now. Peter, im curious. The new pictures were seeing, how do they compare to the bin laden you met and interviewed just a year later . I think theyre very different, anderson, because this is a much more sort of relaxed bin laden. We met him in the middle of the night. They were very concerned about representatives of an American News organization interviewing him. He spent two days with at least bin ladens company, and they sent these series of pictures were seeing for the first time. As far as i can tell, the first time that weve actually seen the hideout where bin laden lived in such detail. The hideout, of course, was destroyed by u. S. Bombs a few weeks after 9 11. I had gone after that area, all of that bin laden compound was completely bombed out. So its a different picture, and of course, at the time, anderson, when he was, you know, these pictures were taken, there was a lot of stuff in the future we didnt know. 9 11, the embassy attacks, et cetera. And how much of that was already being planned by him . You know, whats interesting is the embassy attacks were being planned three years before this picture was first taken. Wow. The 9 11 attacks were at least at the time percolating already. So, you know, he was already down this path. And the documents that were released in a separate trial, they seem to make it clear that bin laden and his team, i mean, they knew how close the cia was. Yeah. They were very paranoid. You have so many of bin ladens closest leaders in al qaeda are being killed. Theyre very detailed discussions about one leader who was killed and the circumstances of that. And people outside of al qaeda were saying that bin laden stopped communicating, cia really on your trail and he didnt really take that advice and of course, very soon thereafter was found by the cia and then we know what happened. And in terms of drone strikes, and obviously were talking about much later than these pictures but in terms of drone strikes, documents show theyre not only effective in killing top al qaeda operatives but also in hindering them in general from traveling, from communicating. Yeah. I think they did exactly what they were intended to do. They really interrupted the ability of al qaeda to plan these attacks in the west. Didnt really pan out. Sent people to britain that didnt pan out, denmark. Bin laden was conscious of the fact he hadnt had a attack in a long time and died knowing the organization didnt achieve its goals in attacking america again. In terms of the document of the raid that killed bin laden, all the information has not been released, obviously. There must be a lot that is still secret. And i hope that the administration, four years now, a lot of secret stuff is dated. For historians, journalists, anybody interested in this subject, theres a lot more we should find out and the government is sitting on it. Tens of thousands of documents i hope get released. That many . Tens of thousands . Ive seen figures up to a million. We dont really know, but its a very substantial cash of documents. Weve just seen a tiny, tiny sliver. Wow. Fascinating stuff there i bet. U. S. Marshal killed in the line of duty a day before learning the wife theyre expecting is a boy. Plus, drew griffin, aaron schock about who exactly is pinning for his lifestyle. See what happened when he tracked the congressman down. [ male announcer ] when John Huntsman was diagnosed with cancer, he didnt just vow to beat it. I vowed to eradicate it from the earth. So he founded Huntsman Cancer Institute. Everything about it would be different. It would feel different. Look different. And fight cancer in new and different ways. 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In madison, wisconsin, demonstrators took the streets for a fifth day to protest the ftal shooting of an unarmed biracial teen the ager. In another news program, we report on Police Coverage and thats warranted. But sometimes its Police Officers who dont come home to their families. Family of josie wells is living through that nightmare. Wells was killed bravely doing his job. According to a group that tracks Law Enforcement deaths 50 Law Enforcement officers were shot and killed in the line of duty last year. Randi kaye has deputy wells story. Reporter the Elk Grove Hotel outside of baton rouge, josie wells in the line of fire. On tuesday, wells arrived here hoping to serve a warrant to a man suspected of a double murder. During that apprehension, one of our Deputy United States marshals was gravely wounded. Reporter before wells could arrest suspect jamie crum, he was hit multiple times. It was 11 00 a. M. A woman who asked not to be identified heard the shots and saw the bloodshed. He had a vest on, but it looked like the wounds were to his neck. They took his vest off and they were pretty much trying to put pressure to the wounds and, you know, they put him in the truck, and they tried to get him help immediately. Reporter in baton rouge, he later died. This must be gut wrench for you guys having to alert the marshalls family to daiday. Yeah. It is. Reporter the double murder suspect jamie crum was wanted in the february shooting death of two siblings. Older sister said hed rather be dead than go back to jail. In the shootout with the u. S. Marshal, croom was also wounded. He died at the hospital shortly after being charged in the murder of the u. S. Marshal. In a tragic twist of fate, Deputy Marshal, josie wells, was in baton rouge on temporary assignment. Thats terrible. That should not happen. Hes doing his job. Reporter josie wells was a Deputy Marshal since 2011. His father is retired Law Enforcement and his brother is a Police Officer in jackson, mississippi. One of his brothers from Jackson University a professor, said that he was discipline and always dreamed of becoming a Police Officer, and wells never thought of it being p a dangerous job, but he just knew that he wanted to do it. These guys are going out several times a day, serving out warrants for violent crimes, theyre prepared and ready for it. But you cant be ready for every scenario. Reporter especially when a coldblooded killer breaks out fire. And josie learned the day after his murder found out that his new bride is having a baby boy. Randi kaye, cnn, new york. Our thoughts are with his family, his friends, and all the colleagues in the marshal service. Lets get the latest on some of the other stories were following. Amara walker has a 360 bulletin. Amara . Marco rubio made sure it clinches a nuclear deal with iran. Kerry denied the strategy to defeat isis. At the boston bombing trial, Police Sergeant described finding Police Officer sean collier covered in blood in his squad car at the m. I. T. Campus three days a after the bombings. Prosecutors say Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother murdered collier during an unsuccessful attempt to steal his gun. And in south africa, mugged at gunpoint while waiting to a live report and minutes from going on the air. Assailants got away with cell phones and laptop and thankfully, nobody was hurt. Incredibly brazen crime. Unbelievable. Amara, thank you very much. Coming up, his instagram pictures are full life of the jet set but with taxpayer money . Drew griffin caught up. With aaron shock back in the peoria, illinois, district. Looking back, do you think you made a mistake . Can you understand why people are concerned . I hope you enjoy your time in the 18th district. Ve lenses. Now have chromea7 ™ technology. Making them more responsive than ever to changing light. 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Reporter a smiling congressman aaron schock is trying to keep up the appearance nothing is wrong. A few questions from you . Im headed into school assembly, but youre welcome to join me. Reporter can we ask on the way out . But questions had been getting tougher to deal with. Schock has been under fire for a string of questionable spending. Not the least of which is the 40,000 reportedly in taxpayer funds he spent overhauling his Congressional Office to look like an english manor, inspired by the tv show, Downton Abbey. The decor fits in with the congressmans glamorous persona, known for posting pictures on instagram of his worldwide travels meeting with the pope, pair ra sailing in argentina, and parted his shirt to post for mens health. Odd for the typical u. S. Congressman. As he told nbc news, hes anything but one of those common old men. As taylor swift said, haters are going to hate. Reporter with sudden attraction to the high life, the congressional watchdog and Media Outlets are all asking one question. Where is all the money coming from . According to the congressmans own sloppy finance records, a lot of it is coming from none other than you. Reports reveal aaron schock using taxpayer and Campaign Money to buy tickets to rock concerts, travel on Board Private donor airplanes. He spent 10,000 splurging his staff on a weekend trip to new york, reportedly even a 29,000 bill for a professional photographer and that Downton Abbey Office Makeover included a 15,000 payment to an interior decorator. Last week, the congressman from conservative rural illinois admitted it doesnt look good. I know that when i take a trip and i post photos online, it can create the misimpression of being out of touch or an image that is not worthy of my constituents. Reporter today after speaking to a High School Class about his humble beginnings, congressman schock first dodged cnns questions about all of this. Can you explain the reporter and then decided to answer the question without explaining any of it. Can you explain the lavish lifestyle youve been leading . On the backs of taxpayers as i said before, i take the law and my compliance very seriously and based on the team of professionals that ive hired to review my offices, processes and procedures including the former head of the federal Election Commission and that review is ongoing. And im not going to comment further until that review is complete and i would just say in the meantime as you saw today, im focused on doing what ive done best, delivering for people of the 18th district. People elected me. So thank you. Spend 27,000 on a professional photographer or katy perry tickets . Do you think its appropriate to spend political donations in private plane tickets . Do you have any explanation, legal or not, is it right, is the question . Looking back, do you think you made a mistake . Can you understand why people are concerned . I hope you enjoy your time in the 18th district. Reporter sir, come on. Ive been polite to you. Drew griffin joins us now with more in how this is playing in peoria. I know youre at an outside event where the congressman is speaking now. The congressman could be in real trouble. I dont quite understand why he has to hire the outstanders of how he is spending money. Reporter well, anderson, if he misspent taxpayer money, and more importantly, next year in some of these cases, if he actually tried to cover up that spending, he could be in real trouble. In one case, there was a reported 3,000 purchase of software for his office. Now thats looking more and more like it was a 3,000 plane ride on yet another private donors private plane. So that could get him in trouble. We do know this. He has paid back 40,000 to the government for that Downton Abbey redo of his office and has hired a very high profile lawyer that is specializing in white collar crimes. So he is taking this seriously. I guess weve got to give him the benefit of the doubt. Sloppy or not, the spending, especially from his political donors, could be legal, right . Reporter yeah, it could be legal. As weve been reporting on your show, the donations, the taxpayer money is one thing. Donations to the Political Action committees come with almost no rules. Corporations, lobbyists, give these congressmen money, these senators money, they spend it on golf trips, ski trips, whatever. Its so few rules that it pretty much is legal. Well keep on it. Drew griffin, thank you very much. The ridiculist is next. In new york state, were reinventing how we do business so businesses can reinvent the world. From pharmaceuticals to 3d prototyping, biotech to clean energy. 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I can blame it on a sale down at the hudsons bay, and they had mens underwear off for half price. I bought a bunch that was clearly too small for me and i find it difficult to fit for any length of time, mr. Speaker. So i apologize if it was necessary for me to leave my seat briefly but i did not mean to forfeit my right to vote. I love canada. I just want to say that. I really like canada. Im not 100 sure but that may be an unprecedented. Even the presiding officer wasnt quite sure how to proceed. I had no briefing on this type of [ laughter ] he did step out of his chair for a very short time and was directed by me to sit down again. Didnt understand the explanation at the time that he subsequently gave. Cant say i really understand it at this point, but [ laughter ] its like a night at the laugh shack. In the end, the vote stood and the Parliament Members thought the opposing party member who brought up the issue of him leaving his seat because of his underwear for a few seconds was overreacting to gave a cheeky answer to a cheeky question but said a lot of grumpiness, buying nickers too small. And then getting nem a twist. If you think that we are throwing stones we have had our underwear problems in our house as well. Underwear problems of a somewhat different nature, but underwear problems nonetheless. We want to resolve it once and for all. You would know this is your underpants. The question is, i appreciate you continuing to flash that at me. Look, ive said the best i can were going to try to get to the bottom of what happened. Theres puns all around. When you think about it, tight underwear is more of a common political issue than it would seem at first glance. Its just each politician puts its own position on it as they jockey for position on the places, its here in