These are the first two strikes weve seen that have come outside the original two categories of u. S. Air strikes in iraq which were to protect u. S. Personnel and to protect minorities under threat from isis and, therefore, the first ones to follow the president s speech when he announced a couple of weeks ago saying theyre going on offense, no longer on defense. And do we know the isis forces, they were the once on the offensive against these iraqi forces in southwest of baghdad . Well, they were fighting. These were iraqi operations under way against isis forces that weve known for some time have been within proximity of baghdad, but i think, you know, that is important that it was near the capital because this is its a vulnerable point. The fact that isis can carry out operations even close to there is a real worry. You see the iraqi forces on the ground pushing back and u. S. War planes supporting them from the air. Jim, were going to have more with you later on in the program. Well check back shortly. Now a story that touches two absolutely basics for tens if not hundreds of millions of americans, parenthood and pro football. People have been talking ever since a texas grand jury has indicted minnesota running back Adrian Peterson last week on a felony child abuse charge. To remind you, this is what he did to his son with a switch, a tree branch. The child is 4 years old. The injuries included cuts on his thighs, buttocks, and scrotum. Today two, days after benching him, without his services losing a game to new england, the vikings cleared him to play next weekend. At the same time peterson through his lawyer released a statement well read more fully in a moment. In a key passage peterson says he did what he did out of love and according to the way he himself was raised. Ive always believed, he writes, that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success ive enjoyed as a man. Hes talking about a style of parenting that Many Americans will recognize and in many cases endorse and others call allout brutality, no matter what the intention. First ed lavandera. Reporter the pictures are startling, skin lacerations inflicted by Adrian Peterson on his 4yearold son. The professional football star called it a whooping, using a thin tree branch, 10 to 15 times. Texas prosecutors say it is child abuse. A grand jury having indicted this case looked at the injuries that were inflicted upon this child and determined that that discipline was not reasonable and did not reflect the Community Standard of what was reasonable discipline. Reporter weve also learned new details of Text Messages peterson allegedly sent the boys mother in minnesota after the lashing. Peterson wrote he felt bad after the fact when i noticed the switch was wrapping around hitting thigh. Another text was more graphic. Got him in the nuts once i noticed. But i felt so bad. Im all tearing that butt up when needed. I start putting them in timeout and save the whooping for needed memories. In a later message he said never do i go yofr board but all my kids will know hey daddy has the biggie heart but dont play no games when it comes to acting right. Nick wright is a sports radio talk show host in houston where peterson lives part of the year. Hes familiar with the new and extensive details in the peterson Police Report. According to wright, the incident happened after the little boy had pushed another of petersons children off of a motorcycle video game. He called it a standard whooping. He said the only parts of this that were different from usual were when the switch wrapped around the childs leg and cut the front of his leg and the one that hit the child on the genitals. He said aside from that he was asked by police are the marks on the child, you know, worse than usual. And he said on his butt, no. He said on his butt, thats what a whooping is. Reporter wright says the little boy also told police that he was scared of his father, that he was often punished in what the boy described as the whooping room. And that peterson had lots of belts. The boy talked about his father putting leaves in his mouth while he was lashed. Wright also says peterson spoke with investigators in a 40minute phone conversation where he justified disciplining his son with this kind of force. You listen to the audio of Adrian Peterson with the police, and he comes across honestly as a loving parent who truly believes he was doing what was right for his son, who feels badly about two specific unintentional injuries. Adrian peterson is very selfassured that he not only loves his children but that this type of discipline at least he sounded selfassured at the time that this discipline was necessary and this type of discipline was more mild than the discipline he received that helped turn him into the man that he is today. Reporter in a statement Adrian Peterson wrote that after meeting with a psychologist there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate. I am without a doubt not a child abuser. And after missing only one game, the Minnesota Vikings announced back on the football field this coming weekend. What else did he say when he spoke to investigators on the phone . That was kind of interesting. According to nick wright after we spoke with him and from what he was able to see, is that Adrian Peterson admitted to police this wasnt the only time during this boys visit with him back in may at his houston home that he had been punished in this way. And according to nick wright, he said it didnt seem like police, from what he was able to hear, didnt seem that police understood or knew that there had been a second incident. What police are doing with that were not being told at this point. But it was an interesting revelation nonetheless. Ed lavandera. Appreciate it. Millions have been talking about this and the ray rice story with one another online and on gameday television. Heres nba hall of Famer Charles barkley on cbss nfl today with jim roam defending peterson. Im from the south. Whipping is we do that all the time. Every black parent in the south is going to be in jail under those circumstances. I think we have to be careful letting people dictate how doesnt matter where youre from. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It doesnt matter where youre from. Well, i dont believe that. Because, listen, we spank kids in the south. I think the question about did Adrian Peterson go overboard . But listen, jim, we all grow up in different environments. Listen, every black parent in my neighborhood in the south would be in trouble or in jail under those circumstances. Joining us is attorney and childrens advocate, areva martin, New York Times columnist charles blow and senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin. Charles, what about that . Charles barkley essentially saying, look, if you talk to africanamericans from the south, youre going to hear this story a lot. Well, i think that in general what the data tell us is that American Parents spank. Africanamericans spank slightly more than other parents, but its statistically significant. But it is not but spanking is a lot different than taking a tree branch. And that is the point where i completely disagree with Charles Barkley and where i find Adrian Petersons explanation to be incredibly sad, which is that he probably genuinely believes that drawing blood is an expression of love. And that is a sad kind of testament to what he believes parent should be. The idea that you believe as a 61, nearly 220pound man should beat a child who is 4 years old until he has lacerations on his body, that is not love. He may believe that its love. He may believe that he didnt plan to abuse a child. He may not believe that hes an abuser. But that is not what an expression of love is. Im so happy that he said that he saw a child psychiatrist and now he knows that there are alternate ways. Spanking and particularly that kind of brutal spanking is always the easy way out. It takes 30 seconds. How does this play out . Can you say, well, look, this is the way i was raised. My father put leaves in my mouth and had a whooping room. Well, texas law is actually quite clear on this. Basically, texas says if your behavior is reasonable under Community Standards then its not a crime. So if the jury were to decide, if this case goes to trial, that this sort of whooping is reasonable in the community, then it wouldnt be a crime. I cant conceive of any circumstances in which a jury would find that. He can call it an expression of love. There are very religious families who love their children and say we are going to withhold medical treatment because our religion demands it. Thats not an excuse. Just because you think its the right thing to do, thats not an excuse. And this is not this point that peterson made he believes this type of discipline prevented him from being lost in the streets and contributed to his success. Well, he may have been not lost in the street, anderson, but clearly hes repeating the cycle of violence. And what we now know is that parents who are hit and treat their kids with abusive behavior likely have been abused themselves as kids. The reality is all things lawful are not expedient. So the fact that it may be lawful in the state of texas doesnt make it the right thing to do. Everyones talking about Adrian Peterson. I want to stand up for that 4yearold child. I was hit as a child. For adrian to say he was hit and somehow thats right, it was wrong when my mom hit me, when my dad hit me, when adrians parents hit him, and its wrong today to hit a child, to use Corporal Punishment in any form is abusive. And longterm scars can happen as a result of that. We can have a discussion about Corporal Punishment and spanking. Thats really an issue for parents to decide. When it gets to these sorts of wounds, this is not an issue for parents. This is an issue for law enforcement. And so i think we really need to draw a distinction here. This is not a case about spanking. This is a case about a kid with serious injuries. And i think theres also a dangerous message being sent if we start to attribute success and staying out of the streets to being violently attacked by your parents. Also if you are repeatedly doing this to your child over the course of a weekend, doesnt seem to be working very well. Right. Its the lazy way. You say you were punished for a week and you cant have a nintendo or whatever youre playing, that actually takes you as the parent engaging for the entire length of the punishment. This kind of spanking, brutal kind of whipping takes 30 seconds to a minute and youre done. Kind of a lazy, easy way out. People may choose it but i read there was a columnist for the grio that said its a longstanding africanamerican institution, quote, both feared and revered. I think making sort of a reference back to slavery. I think there are a lot of people who believe that thats true. And i think that and that is also a part of the sadness of it. That for, you know, for so many years theres been a tremendous amount, disproportionate amount of violence visited on black bodies. And for us to then internalize that and take that into our homes and say that is the way the only way we can succeed and its the only way we can be made to behave. Thats not areva, what point did you want to make . I also want to say, anderson, you know, we used to not wear helmets when we rode bikes. Women used to smoke when they were pregnant. We used to send our kids to segregated schools. There are lots of things we did 20 and 30 years ago that we now know are hurtful and harmful to kids that we know are no longer acceptable. As weve evolved as a society, were called upon to do better with with respect to how we raise our children. You dont buy that my parents did that, this is the way i was brought up, it worked for me . No. My parents put me on a bike without a helmet. That was dangerous then, that is dangerous now. They didnt know any better. But now we know better. We have the data. We have the statistics. We have the studies that confirm that their longterm psychological, emotional scars from hitting children. We cant bury our heads in the sand on this one. We have to accept that data, accept the harm thats done to kids, and just stop hitting. We tell 5yearolds no hitting. We criminalize assaults by adults on other adults. So we cant accept an adult hitting a child when we dont accept an adult hitting an adult. How does the law draw the line . What, a spanking is okay but using a switch that causes a bloody wound, thats not . Thats right. And ultimately these are jury questions. Under texas law, this is a classic jury question. What does the community regard as reasonable . That question doesnt have an obvious answer, but its placed in the hands of juries to decide. Im not on the jury in this case. We have to see all the evidence. But i can easily believe an integrated jury, any racially composed jury would say, you know what . This kid was 4 years old. You cant do that to a 4yearold. And thats what the law says. Jeff toobin, appreciate it. Charles blow. Areva martin. Jeff will stick around. There are several new developments in the ray rice Domestic Violence story. Hes got till tomorrow night to appeal his indefinite suspension for punching out his wife, knocking her unconscious. Meantime, were learning just how unevenly the league and the legal system punishes people in this situation. As always a quick reminder. 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Deadline is tomorrow night for ray rice to appeal his indefinite suspension for punching and knocking out his fiancee in an Atlantic City casino back in february. He is expected to appeal. He made his first public appearance over the weekend in his new york home town. His supporters, meantime, have begun speaking out against the suspension and against nfl commissioner Roger Goodell. More from Miguel Marquez who joins us now. So it looks like this could come down to ray rices claims against the nfl commissioners. Thats exactly where it seems to be headed. Interestingly Roger Goodell was supposed to be at a San Francisco game this weekend and he didnt show up. And it seems that mr. Rice is getting out there. Going to new rochelle to a High School Football game there, back to the beginning basically and get back out there into public life. This is headed back down that road, it appears. Roger goodell saying that he was either led astray or misled or lied to by mr. Rice during that june 16th meeting. Hes been saying that now several time over the last week while rice, at least his side of the camp, saying that it was goodell that was told everything by ray rice, and that he didnt hear it and made his decision on the twogame suspension and only changed his mind once that tmz sports video came out showing the inside of the elevator in that Atlantic City casino. And miguel, what happens when rice actually appeals the suspension . What happens . How does that work . Were hoping to find out more about the nfl, under what article of the collective Bargaining Agreement they brought it under. We believe its article 46, which if thats the case there are several things that are fairly interesting. One is you cant punish the same player twice for the same thing. He was dismissed by the ravens and the league put an indefinite suspension on him. Now, goodell is saying that is an indefinite suspension because he was led astray, not for the beating of janay palmer back in february. So its unclear where it goes from here, but once that appeal is made, then it will kick into a process where there will literally be a sort of Court Hearing inside the nfl where outside experts will be brought in. Rice will be able to bring in people to talk on his side, and the nfl will present its own evidence and perhaps a body outside of Roger Goodell will make the final call. Anderson . Miguel, thanks for the update. Lets dig deeper on ray rices punishment. Allegations of hypocrisy and back side covering by the nfl. Jeff toobins back. Legal analyst and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin as well. I mean, jeff, the argument made by rice that basically hes getting punished twice. Originally he was told to have a twogame suspension and then this new thing and thats unfair. Article 46 appears to say that if youre punished by the team, you cant be punished by the league. If youre punished by the league, you cant be punished by the team. However, the one thing i really want to caution everybody, this is really complicated. You have the intersection of the union agreement, the players contract, the nfls own rules, and these things take a long time. Im not in any position to predict with certainty how this will be resolved. But once this appeal starts the lawyers take over. And this could get complicated and the resolution is uncertain. Its interesting now miguel saying that Roger Goodell saying i was kind of misled. Thats not what we heard from the coach of the team in that press conference where he said no, nothing ray rice said was any different everything thats come out is pretty much what he told us. There must have been a roomful of attorneys in that meeting between goodell and ray rice. At least ray rices attorneys were there. It must be pretty clear what was actually said. No question about it. We know that the meeting took place and there were representatives for ray rice and representatives for the nfl. But i think the larger question is how could goodell and the nfl have screwed this up, have botched this up so much that ray rice now has the ability to appeal . And i think, jeff, that he has solid ground. I think hes standing on solid ground, quite frankly, because we know that he was suspended for two games. If he indeed told the truth and there was a video showing the aftermath of the knockout and a Police Report. And a Police Report that clearly says he hit her and rendered her unconscious. I looked at the Police Report today. There was really nothing different that occurred other than the fact that this videotape was shown to the public. What do they think Domestic Violence looks like . A second video has come out and theres been a public outcry. And the nfls embarrassed. And remember, it may be that the nfl had the elevator video as well because the a. P. Report. So the nfl is not on the strongest legal grounds here basically saying we increased the punishment because we were embarrassed. Thats not a strong argument. However, the league has a lot of power under these agreements. And so i just dont think i know the law well enough to be able to predict how this will come out. I want to play something that cris carter, a former player and espn analyst, said over the weekend. Take him off the danggone field. Because you know what . As a man thats the only thing we really respect. We dont respect no women. We dont respect no kids. The only thing roger and them can do is take them off the field because they respect that. To his point, does the nfl have a problem here . This is now ray rice is not the only guy out there thats done this and, frankly, others have been convicted of it and still play. Its a significant problem. Its a crisis in my view. Were now seeing this incident. Were talking about Adrian Peterson and child abuse. Hes going to suit up and play again. What message is that sending to me as a woman . What message is that saying to children . Domestic violence is okay, child beating is okay. The nfl just going to youre putting them in the same category. I think its exactly the same category. I think its about abuse against women and children and that abuse being condoned quite frankly by the nfls actions. Now, the nfl i think to its credit just hired four very prominent Domestic Violence experts to try to articulate and help them formulate a policy. One of the many problems of the nfls response here is that the rules were very unclear. Basically dumped it all in goodells lap that he could be the emperor who decided each case was resolved on its own merits. The problem with that is you dont have clear rules so that you have somebody people who have been convicted of Domestic Violence playing. You have some people who have been suspended. The length of the suspension is up for grabs. So the fact theyve hired these good people and at least in the future i hope will have good rules i have to completely disagree with you, jeff. Thats because we know after the scandal erupted, what did goodell do . He did implement a policy. Right . He implemented this twogame suspension and then i guess a lifetime ban from the league for a second offense for Domestic Violence. Hes playing catchup. The nfls playing catchup. So to name these four women as Domestic Violence experts on his team at this point i think is too little, i think its too late, and its tone deaf. It goes to show they dont know as we report on last week, compared to other Major League Sports franchises, the nfl is actually more out in front than anyone else. Im not saying im not saying that says anything, but it is kind of it was surprising to me to learn that they actually now have a policy on the books. A lot of the others dont even have policies. When youre behind you play catchup. Theyre playing catchup now. More power to them. The nfl should have a clear policy on this. Theyve hired some experts to do it. The other league should do it as well. But i dont think thats a bad thing. I think thats a good thing. The Players Association of the nfl saying ray rice should get a second chance. Do you believe in Second Chances . You know, i thing i believe in zero tolerance. For Domestic Violence. This is the first time hes ever been charged allegations have been made against him. This is the first time. Yes. Not as if theres a record here. I think so. I believe in zero tolerance for Domestic Violence. Violence against children. Violence against women. And you know, more often than not theres this recidivism when it comes to Domestic Violence. People dont really learn. So to give i think playing in the nfl is a privilege. Its not a right. And to behave so casually after he struck his wife and knocked her unconscious, i think the way peterson is behaving casually and coming out with a statement saying im not a child abuser when in fact mr. Peterson is a child abuser, i think, you know, those incidents, you dont get a second chance. Wed be a Better Society if we gave everybody who went to prison the right to vote and the chance to reestablish their lives, and i think people should have Second Chances. Jeff toobin, sunny hostin. Thank you very much. Good discussion. For all the unfairness and hypocrisy that rice supporters blame on the nfl, its the legal system that touches many more people, specifically diversion programs like the one ray rice took advantage of. And the woman youre about to meet would also seem to be perfectly suited for, for a diversion program. It was the same jurisdiction, same prosecutor, very different outcome. Randi kaye tonight explains. Reporter shanine allen was driving in new jersey when she was stopped by police for a simple traffic violation. In the car with her, her brand new handgun. When i went in there to when i went in my purse to give them my license and my registration, i also gave him my license to carry with it. Thats why i told him i have my firearm on me. Reporter trouble is, shanines license to carry was for her home state of pennsylvania. Just across state lines from where she was pulled over in new jersey. She says she had no idea it didnt transfer state to state. She had just bought the gun a week earlier after being mugged. Still, this single mother of two was handcuffed and arrested on the spot. Charged with both illegal possession of a firearm and possession of hollowpoint ammunition. Shes now facing more than 11 years in prison. How worried are you about going to prison . Very worried. Im worried every minute, every day. I have to worry about where my kids are going to go, whats going to happen to them. Reporter this is the man looking to put shanine in prison, atlanta county prosecutor jim mclean, the very same man who chose not to prosecute ray rice. Rice was charged in the same county with aggravated assault. He pleaded not guilty and applied for a special Intervention Program that gives arrestees a chance to wipe their record clean. In may, prosecutor mcclain approved rice for that program. The pretrial Intervention Program, or pti as its called, allows firsttime offenders to avoid prison and probation. Those accepted into the program have to get counseling, do community service, and stay out of trouble. Once the program is complete, all charges are dropped. Rice was facing up to five years in prison when he got into the program. Shanine is facing more than double that. Yet a month before clearing ray rice for the pti program prosecutor mcclain refused shanines request to enter the same program. Why do you think the prosecutor denied you access into the program . Hes trying to be tough on guns. And using me as an example. The pti program was for firsttimers and thats what i should have got. Reporter prosecutor mcclain declined our request for an interview. But his office gave us this statement mr. Rice received the same treatment by the criminal Justice System in Atlantic County that any firsttime offender has in similar circumstances. Adding the decision was correct. Are you angry . Very, very angry. Im frustrated. I think that our situation should be switched. I should have got pti and he should get years in prison. So he definitely got a pass. Its kind of an amazing case, randi. Where does her case stand now . Anderson, tonight were learning the prosecutor is going to take another look at shaneens case. He sent this letter dated september 12th, just friday, addressed to the superior court judge telling him that he, the prosecutor is, quote, reviewing our offices position on the appropriate resolution of this matter. The prosecutor, anderson, is asking for three weeks time to review everything and for the court to delay the start of the trial and the pretrial hearings. The trial was supposed to start in october. Maybe hes caving to all the attention and the pressure this case is getting due to the ray rice connection, or maybe not. But anderson, Shaneen Allen has certainly found hope for the first time in nearly a year. And lets just reiterate here. She was just over the state line. It was a legal she had a permit. She voluntarily told the Police Officer she had a permit. It wasnt like she was hiding this gun in her car. Its really stunning. Yeah, she had it in her purse when she was going for her license and her registration. She saw the gun and she immediately told the Police Officer. He grabbed her purse and immediately she said he called for backup and arrested her on the spot. Well talk about this in the next hour because this is just a stunning case. Juxtaposed with the same prosecutor who treated ray rice to a diversion program. As u. S. Air strikes ramp up against isis and offensive operations begin, isis murders another western captive. The question is, though, what kind of threat does isis really present to people in the United States right now . Thats next. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. Wait, wait, wait, its wait, wait, wait. Whoa, does she have special powers when she has the shroud . No. Guys . Its the woven one the woven one. Oh, oh that gives her invincibility. Guys . No, no, no. The scarlet king is lord victors son no dont. 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Were a force of nature, too. Breaking news tonight, the u. S. Militarys conducted air strikes against an isis position near baghdad. A senior military official telling cnn they are the closest strikes to the capital since the start of the campaign. This comes as the u. S. Is building an International Coalition to fight isis terrorists. But just which countries will be involved and exactly what way, that has not become clear. Secretary of state john kerry has just wrapped up a trip to the middle east to try to get support. He says countries are willing to help with strikes, but he also said on face the nation that it isnt appropriate to talk about which countries specifically and what their role is going to be. Our chief National Security correspondent jim sciutto joins us now. So what do we know about this coalition . Is any country publicly involved . You do have public commitments and you have some private commitments. The private commitments involving western nations. France that says it will carry out surveillance flights over iraq and air strikes over iraq. You have australia sending eight f a18 military aircraft to the region to take part in strikes. Theyre also sending 200 advisers. Canada sending 50 military advisers. You have those kinds of public commitments from western nations. You do have private commitments from arab nations. I was told today by a senior u. S. Military official that more than one arab nation has agreed to take part in air strikes. Socalled kinetic activity. But typically it is unlikely for these countries to advertise their support because they face very critical populations at home from those countries. Its more likely to be on the down low and private than from many countries in europe and the west. Theres a difference of commitment to actually strike inside iraq as opposed to strike inside syria, right . There is. You see that for instance with france. Its agreeing to flights and air strikes over iraq but not syria. Even the u. S. Weve seen its carried out nearly 200 strikes inside iraq. Still waiting for that first air strike inside syria. Im told thats not going to happen necessarily anytime soon. There are a few reasons for that. One, in iraq you have a ground force there to back up with air strikes. Youve got the kurdish forces, you have the Iraqi Military. You dont have that yet in syria. In fact, im told its going to take about a year to train just 5,000 moderate Syrian Rebels to fight against isis. Its going to take a long time, plus just the intelligence picture that much worse in syria than it is in iraq. You hear from john mccain, who was on our air last week saying, look, these people have been vetted, we know who these people are. But is that really true . You look at the map of the different groups that are fighting, the changing lines. It seems theyre all over the place. In terms of they are. Their allegiances. There are a thousand different groups, a thousand different allegiances there. Its hard to divine that. The Administration Says that its much more knowledgeable today than it was even six months or 12 months ago about who they can trust on the ground. But even with that, you know, its going to take a number of months to train the folks that they trust and to arm them, et cetera, to make them into something of a capable fighting force, but even at the end of the year youre only talking about 5,000 fighters. On iraq youve got hundreds of thousands of Ground Forces including the Iraqi Military and kurdish military. Its an entirely different calculus. And also, by the way, huge numbers of Iraqi Military who have been trained for years and years and years with huge amounts of money. And weve seen what theyre able to do so far on the battlefield. Jim, appreciate it. The major questions are how big of a threat does isis pose to the United States and whats it going to do to take to defeat it . Republican senator Lindsey Graham says the idea the United States will never have boots on the ground in syria is a fantasy. Listen to what he said on fox news sunday, particularly the last sentence of what he says. This is a war were fighting. It is not a counterterrorism operation. This is not somalia. This is not yemen. This is a turning point in the war on terror. Our strategy will fail yet again. This president needs to rise to the occasion before we all get killed back here at home. Before we all get killed back here at home. Joining us now cnn political commentator Peter Beinart a contributing editor at Atlantic Media and Senior Editor at the atlantic foundation. Also retired Army Lieutenant general mark hurtling who was commander of the u. S. Forces in iraq from 2007 to 2009. Peter when you hear Lindsey Graham saying we might all get killed here at home, is that just hysteria . It does seem like there have been a few publicly kind of saying, wait a minute, is isis really as big a threat to the United States right now as some have been claiming . Yeah, i think it is hysteria and typical of the hysteria coming from some of the republicans on capitol hill. If you listen to the terrorism experts that study this, what they will say is theres a significant potential threat from isis because they control all this territory, they have money, there are a lot of westerners who may go back and commit acts of terror, although its more like to be the lone wolf attacks that you saw with the underwear bomber than the kind of large skailt plscale pl qaeda did. But thats a potential threat. Its different than saying theyre a greater threat today than al qaeda was on the eve of 9 11, as some republicans have said. I think to his credit Lindsey Graham rightfully said that if you think isis is that big a threat you should support american troops on the ground. But i think the obama administrations assessment is that its not that great a threat now, which is why theyre pursuing this different strategy. General, do you believe its a great threat to the United States . When Lindsey Graham says we could all get killed here at home, are you im not saying youre not concerned. But are you that concerned right now . I am not concerned right now, anderson. It is a potential threat in the future. But i also think right now isis is probably reevaluating based on the eventual coalescence of a coalition against them. Theyve tried to consolidate their territory. Theyre doing things to establish an Islamic State in the area between syria and iraq and perhaps in other places. But thats their major concern right now. And if i were the enemy commander, id be thinking to myself, holy smokes, the rest of the world is getting ready to coalesce against me and bring a coalition. I better start consolidating my territory and not really being concerned about taking attacks outside of this area. As peter said theres certainly the potential for a lone wolf. But i dont think thats a Great Potential right now today. Could be in the future, but not today. General, from a military standpoint, isis really has not faced a Capable Military enemy on the ground or even from the air. The iraqi forces they face were badly led by generals who had really no battlefield experience and were put in there by Nuri Al Maliki for political reasons basically, so they had no leadership, and a lot of the Peshmerga Forces were young and also their lines were pretty stretched thin. So they havent really been all that Battle Tested against real troops. Correct . I would agree with you there, anderson. The other thing i would suggest to you is what they also havent had either for or against them is air power. Im not suggesting that air power is the only way to strike isis. There has to be forces on the ground to countertheir offensive. But its critical to note if youre a historian, that any time you conduct warfare in the desert, the side that has the air power is going to win because it is a flat table top. It is a flat surface. And you can go after targets a lot easier than you can in wooded terrain or mountainous terrain. Thats going to be critical. But the combination of air power with Ground Forces and perhaps the buildup of the peshmerga, the Iraqi Security forces, are going to attrit isis in a great degree. And i agree, they have not been encountered yet by a significant force. And peter, i dont want people to think im discounting the possible threat from isis or as you said the threat of lone wolves here who are ideologically motivated to see their videos and say im part of ice pips but do i think theres a danger in making them seem ten feet tall and invincible. It seems to play into the propaganda that they want us to believe. This is in many ways not surprising by people like Lindsey Graham and john mccain a return to what we saw with george w. Bush, who continually compared al qaeda to the nazis, the soviets. And in that way exaggerated the threat. Not to say there wasnt a threat. There was a threat. There was a terrible attack on the United States on 9 11. But theres been no threat anywhere near that in the more than decade since then. And i think the challenge for policy makers is to recognize yes, theres a threat. Yes, the u. S. Needs to be vigilant. Yes, the u. S. Needs to have all the air strikes at least in iraq against isis, but not to so overreact that you do things that are counterproductive. And when i hear people like Lindsey Graham, again, talking about sending boots on the ground, that would be the best thing in the world for isis to entrap us on another ground war. To americanize the situation. Exactly. Peter beinart, thank you. General hurtling, great you have to on the program again. Just ahead were going to return to the Adrian Peterson story. His indictment has put a spotlight back on Corporal Punishment. Gary tuchman tonight takes us inside the controversy over a book written by two devout christians who say that using a switch against a child is gods will. There was no question she was the one. She reminds you every day. But your erectile dysfunctionthat could be a question of blood flow. Cialis for daily use helps you be Ready Anytime the moment is right. You can be more confident in your ability to be ready. 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Gary tuchman met one such advocate for extreme Corporal Punishment in the name of god. Reporter Michael Pearl is a competitive knife and tomahawk thrower. He never misses the target. But its just a hobby. His lifes work is preaching. He targets what some might call extreme discipline of children. Ive never met any welltrained emotionally secure, happy, creative children that werent spanked. Reporter pearl is a minister of the gospel, a devout christian. He and his wife are bestselling authors who have written many religiously themed books. But their most popular and most controversial is a book called to train up a child in which they write about to need to inflict physical pain. I dont use the term hitting. Whats the word . Spanking. Is there a difference . Absolutely. A hand is hitting. A little switch is spanking. A wooden spoon or spatula, rubber spatula, thats spanking. In the book the pearls, who live in rural tennessee, declare the rod is a gift from god, use it as the hand of god the train your children. They say any spanking to effectively reinforce instruction must cause pain. Im going to spank the cnn man. To show how they believe god wants parents to spank. Rubbing the spaghetti all over your head. You shouldnt have done that at 7 years of age. Ok. And that hurts. And im 50. Okay. I mean, i are there any marks on you . No, theres no marks. But you would hit a 5yearold like that . Yeah. Sure. Reporter the pearls say you can never be too young for some physical pain. For example, when a baby bites during breastfeeding. I would gently pull their hair, very gently. Its enough to make them let go. Reporter the spankings with various objects say the pearls are actually done out of love. They say it worked for their children and most importantly this is what god wants. We dont punish our children, but we sometimes need to get their attention. 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